Necessary, but not sufficient.
White Nationalism, Briefly
November 30, 2016 by CH
Necessary, but not sufficient.
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The idea of not only its necessity, but indeed, acceptability must seep into the collective consciousness at every level of society like so many cuckservative tears into old dogeared editions of National Review. Otherwise Trump represents little more than a delay of the inevitable Vibrancy/SCALE-induced implosion
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The idea of not only its necessity, but indeed, acceptability must seep into the collective consciousness at every level of society
How are you defining White Nationalism (“it”)?
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Jews aren’t included.
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A general return to the basic outlook towards race shared by the majority of Americans (including the ones in government) circa 1776-1968. An America that puts the interests of its European-descended stock (i.e. the vast majority of its productive class) first. I realize that the U.S. will never be 100.00% crystalline pure hwhite, but I think a shift towards traditional, generally pro-white racial attitudes and policy is perfectly feasible, and I believe we’re witnessing the beginning of such a shift right now–and nonviolently to boot (unless you count bullycide as a form of violence)
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You know who Native Americans and Aboriginal Australians are?
“Whites” are Aboriginal/Native Europeans.
Okay? Good.
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Patriarchy: a yuge part of Sufficient.
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I don’t know what CH is getting at with the necessary but not sufficient statement. What’s the goal?
[CH: simple. whiteness alone won’t guarantee a cohesive nation, but the loss of whiteness will certainly guarantee societal rupturing.]
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It means it’s important, but its not enough to obtain and sustain a nation governed by sound mechanics – i.e. good birth rate, good economy, good defense system, good art, good music, good technology, good culture, etc – i.e.i.e. a country that can survive, and that can survive well lol
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I think many white folks are afraid of white identity politics as we grew up with caricatures of what white nationalism looked like. The skinheads of the 80s/early 90’s were pimple faced ugly dorks with zero game. Who wants to associate themselves with those losers.
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In the protest march after UK soldier Lee Rigby’s beheading in broad day light London even gays marched with skinheads That’s how bad moslems have made London. Look at the 1:20 mark on this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ_iXZyoN7k
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Very good point. White Nationalism doesn’t have to hearken people to the idea of skinheads, the best thing to do is give people the courage to simply assert that true equality or true “diversity” includes everyone, not just non-whites. The left is going to attack whites regardless, so breaking this silence through indoctrination and intimidation is crucial.
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This may be true, but there are some millenials that arent cucked liberal faggots and the ones I know (I fall under that group) are ultra right, white, and nationalistic.
That is a turning point in my eyes. It will take time for the average person to stop looking at whites who want preserve their culture as (literally) Hitler, but fuck them.
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Rebrand from “White Nationalism” to something else.
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Branding is important. Could we articulate a positive image that incorporates the elements of western and European civilization and philosophy we identify with?
White Nationalism has been tainted by associations with barely literate skinhead troglodytes. Sure it might be possible to eventually reclaim the label, but it might be easier for a relaunch.
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TLM makes a good point, and part of it has to do with the media. (Surprise, surprise)
Pretty much every time they show someone identified – or arrested as – a ‘White supremacist’ or some such thing, it’s some greasy-haired, overweight, cross-eyed hillbilly reject or some old guy who could play the villain in a Comet vampire movie without makeup.
You do have to wonder how in the heck people like that could possibly look at themselves in the mirror and see a ‘master race’.
There are lots of positive images, all one has to do is break free of the popular(-ized) notion that history starts in 1938.
Celts and Vikings, for example, offer a grand tapestry of positive, attractive, heroic images.
It helps if you get a hold of some history books, novels or mythologies that were written before the Great Political Correction Purge that started sometime in the 1990’s.
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Here are some ideas. They don’t explicitly incorporate all of the positive elements you mention, but I think they are more defensible and persuasive than “White Nationalism.” That term is the enemy’s frame.
White Preservation, White Preservationism
White Continuity
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White Rights
It instantly reframes & turns the table on the globalist/non-white claim that whites are morally obligated to give up everything we built & cede all power to non-whites.
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White Nationalism has been tainted by associations with barely literate skinhead troglodytes. Sure it might be possible to eventually reclaim the label, but it might be easier for a relaunch.
Indeed. I sometimes wonder how many of those skinhead crews back in the ’90s were led by some CIA provocateur.
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We take back the word Liberty. This has always been the Liberty Movement.
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Another part of Sufficient: national identities under the White umbrella.
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WN is largely an American development. It’s in part the visionary and Necessary pan-Europeanism, and part it is the nascent birth of new American nation (US and Canadian Whites excluding already-established nations such as Southerners and Mormons)
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The jury may need a few years to deliberate on whether Canadian Whites have much to offer: http://www.eurocanadian.ca/2016/11/make-canada-great-again.html#disqus_thread
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What about Newfies?
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Back in the pre-Trumpening gloom, I often thought that if Covington was serious about a homeland for Whites in NA, he’d have moved to The Rock.
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Having just returned from Toronto I will say that city is lost. Vancouver is on the brink as well but the influx of rich Chinese has them worried, and one fear begets others. I saw actual Alt-Right meme flyers being taped on people’s doors there. Still hope.
The thing about many of these other non-US cities is that minorities still know their place. The Indian cab driver knows he’s a fucking cab driver from India where they shit on the streets, and he’s lucky as hell to be in Vancouver driving me around. He’s polite and friendly. He’s curious about me, we chat and it’s fine. I have no ill will toward men like him at all. I do not think it fair to kick someone like that out of a country and would not take pleasure in doing so, though I’d do it to preserve my own culture and way of life.
Like him I don’t walk around pretending I’m a better legal mind than the Harvard-educated professors who taught me in law school (though I suppose I could now bang their wives if it came to it, thanks in no small part to frequenting these grounds). I know my role and lot in that sense.
But no black Uber driver under 40 in Atlanta would act like that Indian. The worst sort of miscreants in my state are being taught they’re equal or even superior human beings. And the people who should know better, the educated whites, allow it and even celebrate it. It is madness. Surely no race has ever destroyed itself in this fashion. Ever.
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Just wait until the polite Indian cabbie is part of a ‘minority’ of around 40%……
When his kind and their Pakistanis rivals start slaughtering each other on the streets.
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@wolfie yup. hence being willing to kick them all out to save our way of life. this is our country. they have their own. simple as that.
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Question: do you think black people would benefit from an organization that espouses their interests?
Question: do you think Hispanics would benefit from an organization that espouses their interests?
Are either of those groups racist?
Question: do you think white people would benefit from an organization that espouses their interests?
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Black interests? What to serve the white man well?? Hispanic?? That’s not a race!
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Nationalism only has meaning when the nation in question is at the very least 80% ethnically and culturally homogeneous, and just as importantly, ruled by strong and wise MEN who will do whatever they have to do to keep it that way.
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I’d say 95% plus homogeneous for a small country (Denmark) and 84% plus for a big country (France-size and bigger).
That’s nationalism. If it’s not that homogenous, it’s a multi-ethnic empire at best. The USA is like the Ottoman Empire.
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LARPy, ill-defined bullshit.
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Chewing turds isn’t wont to give them much definition: but eating shit DOES define your personality.
But please continue to expand your definition, dope twat
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Freedom of speech is a freedom that’s special!
Say anything that you want to.
But if you let the hasbara’s hassle
You get your ears all plugged up with the Jew.
Freedom and food fights are pretty damn awesome,
But someone once said that work makes you free
So if CH hammerbans saruh demonspawn
I would be a supportive and happy bee.
Christmas is coming, and trolls are late on their rent
So in the Trumpenreich for pay they spew dull dissent.
But if we herd them up under a sweet permaban
We could enjoy yuletide cheer across our White land!
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Don’t you have some child hentai to binge on, leery old man?
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And Zionism is NOT LARPy ill-defined bullshit?
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https://www.rt.com/news/368692-eu-survey-sex-consent/
The attitudes of European whites..
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Hungary and Romania polled this way because neither of those people mean the perpetrators shouldn’t be imprisoned for it(unless Gypsies or retarded peasants). The wording in those languages of the poll can mean either if there are reasons for the victim to feel guilt over being stupid, or if there should be mitigating factors in sentencing(as in what did you expect if you went high on coke to his place?).
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lol wuz funny is the billions upon billions of dollars went into changing people’s views, yet…people still believe the same old sh**t lol
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No sufficient generally speaking or not sufficient for salvaging America back to her glory days?
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How are you defining “White Nationalism”?
Is the United States, which is majority White, a White Nationalist country?
[CH: my definition of WN is not “racial purity”. it’s “80% or more majority white”. and preferably that 80+% is drawn from the white ethnic pool that reflects the core white composition of america.]
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A majority White country in which a young man will jeopardize his entire future for organizing a White Students Association.
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That seems like a reasonable goal, one that could have a moral foundation and may be politically feasible.
It is advisable that people espousing White or European majoritarianism make clear that they are not seeking to deport (or kill) non-White citizens.
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Ha ha, the Jew said “moral foundation”! Ha ha! Ha ha ha!
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nah. it’s gotta be explicitly for the maintaining of its white population up to at least 80%
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Why would that have to be explicit?
The Jews would leave it at “a White and democratic state.” If you pattern it after Israel, you could bring in a consistency argument.
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explicit, in this case, means intentional – there’s gotta be an intent to the maintaining of its white population otherwise it will become smaller and smaller as it is doing right now. If there is no intent, then the maintenance would be merely incidental, which is how it was for a considerable amount of time up to the 19th century or so. Take England between 1000AD and 1950AD. It was certainly primarily controlled by whites during those times, but that didn’t make it a white-nationalist country. It was just incidental that a bunch of brown foreign hordes hadn’t yet decided to dilute the population.
Basically, it takes a serious amount of work to keep the white population high. We’re not dindus breeding because the f**k of it.
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You might consider instead giving more prominence to general concepts like “White Continuity” or “White Community Planning” or “Whiten (or European) Family Planning” or “European People Planning Institute.” A la the Jews. Hard numbers can be part of the discussion, but in the background.
Just a few thoughts.
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Also, there’s gotta be a better way to brand this than “White Nationalism.”
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I am not questioning the legitimacy or desirability of that demographic composition.
However, the United States is now, what, 65% White, and skewed toward older cohorts. And the portion of that 65% that is drawn from the core is probably a lot less if one excludes, for example, Hispanics identifying as White. If you or another person were asked by media or a non-White fellow citizen whether 80% is a serious goal, whether you wish to put policies in place that would actually achieve it, and what those policies, those steps, are, what would you say?
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First steps first: let’s see if Trump builds the Wall and initiates self-deportation by illegals through e-verify and related employer crackdowns.
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Of course.
But simply let that be your express ultimate objective. A point I wish to emphasize is that alluding to “second and third steps” provokes a fear response in people (does it mean expulsion of non-White citizens? Cattle cars? Ovens?) who would otherwise be on board with the first steps. That undermines your ability to get the immigration situation under control.
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If the media asks you such a question, refer to how Zionist policies have made Israel primarily Jewish.
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If Trump is able to further destroy the MSM during his term, and boost alternative media (which he is already doing in spades) then a sensible course of action would be to start a subtle propaganda drive for a white majority nation. The objective of the slow and steady societal reprogramming should be a constitutional amendment that guarantees an 80% white majority.
I believe such an amendment is both practical and realistic to achieve within 20 years. Use the same boiling-frog media reprogramming that the Skypes used to inject radical ideas (e.g. normalization of homosexuality). Every year the idea would become more and more acceptable in the public mind. You could easily get the majority of Asian Americans on board (Chinese, Indian, Japs, Filipinos) and maybe 50% of whites. The big holdouts would be blacks but they are only 13% or so of the population. White SJWs would of course be in a perpetual state of rioting but so what.
The Happy Hindoo would be more than happy with such an amendment and would even lobby for it. Heck, we should even call it the Happy Hindoo Amendment in honor of my brilliant idea.
Due to the rise of the alt-right and the deconstructing of Skype propaganda, there are now many non-whites who realize that white genocide is happening. Many are steadfastly against it (at least Asians are, blacks might be cheering it). Of course few Asians want to speak out about it. But I for one am considering a “Minorities Against White Genocide” blog. I have no idea how that will be received by either the general public or the alt-right. But it might be fun to stir up some shite. And it’s a worthy cause, so why not…
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HH – Believe it or not, but I just saw a couple of YouTube videos made by Black Americans – on of them calls herself ‘Tree of Logic’ and might be among the most well-spoken Black females I’ve ever encountered – lamenting the situation in Europe and destruction of not only their cultures but also their people.
Maybe they’re thinking ‘wait a minute, if every Blonde screws an Arab or African, there won’t be any more Blondes within 1 generation – say good-bye to the fantasies and desires of 4 billion men worldwide (and probably a billion or so of women, too)’.
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My political ‘ideology’: We have the right to have White countries is the world.
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Anything that results in the weakening of a civilization building culture must be controlled or it will destroy.
Feminism
Sexual deviance
Immigration
Failure to transmit appropriate culture, failure to judge.
The opposites are the controlling factors that allow civilization:
Patriarchy
Sexual Morality
Rejection of foreigners with strict exceptions
Multi-channeled cultural transmission, Emphasis on tradition, Public judgment and non-acceptance for deviance.
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Every single one of the controlling factors that allow civilization will be very tough to obtain and maintain. It can be done, but it might take a miracle
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Outstanding Per Desteen . I’m going to add that to my list of pithy explanations.
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How many will notice the manipulative underlying nature of this post, Proprietors?
Zero?
Are you saying they’re born-to-serve?
Oh heck… good mother nature
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BLM are targeting white areas of Charlotte. I hope the locals say “bring it” after stocking up on Rottweiler food, and you know, that other useful stuff.
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This might be the last chance they get for chimping with impunity: then it’s time for Trump and institutionalized Death Wish.
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Pro Western civilization. Maintaining a foundation in the great books.
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Lzozlzlzll. Etc.
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Rebranding white nationalism isn’t enough. Any new party will just be quickly co opted and subverted by Jews and their shabbos goyim neo cohenservative lackeys as the so called “Alt Right” and “Tea Party” both quickly were.
Whites do need a new race based political party to replace the kosher conservative Republican party and for the new party to succeed it must stand on rock solid principles the first of which is absolutely no Jews allowed to join. This keeps agents like Milo far away and from ruining the party.
You also need the most intelligent and non naieve of whites at the top leading the party hence no Christian leaders otherwise you’re setting the party up to fail from the beginning with a trojan horse element more loyal to their false Jewish god than their own race. An intelligent atheist or pagan leadership of a new race based all white political party that excludes all Jews would also be wise enough to exclude obvious agents of controlled dissent such as Andrew Anglin or Alex Jones from having anything to do with the party as well.
Whites tried letting Christians lead in the past and all that got us was 109 expulsions of Jews only for soft hearted Christ fools to let Jews back in to our white societies 109 times to begin wrecking and ruining things all over again.
Enough is enough. Intelligent non Christian white leadership needs to take the helm of this new as of yet non existant white race based political party. Doesn’t mean Christians can’t join just that they need to know their place which is under a proper white intelligentsia.
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Next time I hear someone use the term ‘Judeo-Christian’ , I might throw up.
Close contact with the Middle East has never been healthy for Europeans and should be avoided, including all cults imported from there, be they called Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Mithraism, Christianity or Islam.
They’re all poison.
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Do not worry wolfie,
U will give it back. To the last shekel.
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But how did those 109 expulsions get reversed?
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Best comment I’ve read on this blog in 4 years.
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JP-
I always appreciate your comments on Roberts’ videos.
What is your take on Renegade? Controlled opp…?
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This is why “white nationalism” fails as a concept – its advocates have no understanding of European history or how cultures are actually formed.
Like, you realize the only reason we have a concept of “Europe” is because of CHRISTENDOM right? European or “white” identity is a direct result of the cross. You can rant about “Jew Gods” and LARP as a Pagan all you want, but what you’re really doing is spitting on your own heritage. Idiot.
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This is, like*, the most retarded line of reasoning I’ve ever heard. Your jew cuck faggot religion causes nothing but division and destruction of white people.
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Brasky playing the dumbass again…
This has been explained dozens of times at the chateau and elsewhere in Cyberia, but the dork refuses to listen.
When we clung tightly to our Bibles and our guns, we conquered lands and peoples and spread from the proverbial “sea to shining sea”.
Can you say Manifest Destiny? Yeah, I knew you could.
Now that we barely pay lip service to Scripture, and have made gods of our own selves… our own lusts and our own reason and so-called logic… we see the results that you yourself decry.
Are you so blind that you don’t see it’s not the worship of Jehovah and His son Christ that have led the West astray… it’s when we replaced the Most High and only True God with the worship of Man that this fucked-up, cucked-up society started to decline.
Think in three dimensions, for crying out loud.
Another alternative is to just shut your foolish blaspheming yap, if you know what’s good for you.
Yeah, bro… I’m mad. š”
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“Like, you realize the only reason we have a concept of āEuropeā is because of CHRISTENDOM right?”
Hahaha, oh man kids these days! Think they’ve got it all figured out. I guess THIS is what happens when a person believes that Andrew Anglin is not a shabbos goyim agent and that /pol/ isn’t just more Jewish controlled dissent.
Kids (millenials) will believe ANYTHING these days!
Their minds become filled with such nonsense and when they begin speaking all doubt is removed of their being an idiot that should read more and post less but I digress.
However if you read too much around THESE PARTS your head will just become ever more imbued with the toxic Christ nonsense of Greg Elliot and related Jew worshipping race treasonous bozo the clowns.
So tell you what “kid” if you actually want the truth for once in your as of yet short life (you’re only 13 years old right?) that your Jew religion represents the enslavement of the European (white) man to world Jewry and is nothing at all to be proud of you need to take your sorry ass on over to Varg Vikernes Thulean Perspective youtube channel and exchange your edJEWcation with an education and when you’re done there go find and read David Lane’s collection of writings known as the 88 precepts next as until you do both of these things you simply don’t know shit and thats the problem 99.9% of millenials suffer from especially in the pro white scene which is what always leads know it all bozos like you being able to be easily exploited ie led by the nose by a cadre of kosher homos in waiting whether its Anglin, Incogfag, the morons on /pol/, Brother “Jew” Krapner or hell it might even be your own local homo Catholic parish pedo-cuck priest if not regular garden variety flavor Christian cuck preacher whispering sweet nothings of Jew orchestrated white racial genocide into your ignorant ears.
BTW, you “deus vult” Christ morons are yourselves LARPers in “current year” 2016 as I don’t see any “witches” (feminists) being stoned…well on anything other than pot that is…and as for taking up snakes to prove your faith in your Jew lord? The only snakes most of you Ted Haggards/Kevin Terry’s in the making will ever shake belong to your boyfriend.
Conclusions:
1. Christ insanity= heritage of white slavery and subJEWgation to hooked nosed psychopaths and nothing at all to be proud of.
2. Ryan S is a moronic millenial that needs to keep his dicksucker closed when his boyfriend is not around.
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…Also gas yayo and loyal whites babes?
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We all only know that which is part of our reference frame. My frame started over 50 years ago. The year I was born, the U.S. sat astride the world economically, financially, militarily, and culturally. The U.S. was also over 90% Caucasian. It is no cohencidence that fully 1/3 of our current population is non-Caucasian. It is also no cohencidence that our country and culture has devolved in the last 50 plus years. The scariest future I can imagine is a U.S.A. that is a mish-mash of varying shades and colors of miscegenated black and brown people a la Brazil with white over-lords dictating our lives. Our nation could limp along and survive day to day as do all non-Caucasian nations, but it would never thrive again. All of the liberal froth about white nationalism is irrelevant. Richard Spencer and the alt-right or whatever you want to call it is irrelevant. What is important to our very survival as men and not untermensch is protecting our Caucasian genes from inferior genetic pollution. Those people who do not want to fight for and protect what we have can let their DNA disappear into the cesspool. White nationalism is the only route to our survival as white men. I choose to fight to keep my genetic lineage pure and keep America white. God Almighty will not come down from on high and miracle away our problems. Choose to fight to keep America white. White is always right.
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Fuck. Fuck. Fuckity fuck.
Well, maybe now the daughter of an EU official has been culturally enriched, the powers that be will wake up.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/739620/Maria-Ladenburger-murder-EU-official-daughter-killed-by-refugee-Aghan
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(((Dieter Salomon))), the mayor of Freiburg warned people not to “apply perpetrator background for sweeping judgements, but to view it as an isolated incidentā
Yeah sure. Isolated incident is why the police are suppressing all crime data.
Another girl murdered in the region Carolin G., 27, was raped and murdered at the beginning of November while jogging in Endinge, just 18 miles away from Freiburg.
The girl worked at the rapefugee center.
Her father strikes me as an idiot whose policies lead to the death of his own daughter.
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