February 22, 2017 by CH
10s exist. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. Their rarity and rarified beauty are naturally cause for disputation among men who bound their egos to their ability to discern exquisite apex femininity, but rarity is not a synonym for nonexistence.
With that in mind, would you consider this meadow minx an HB10? The perfection of woman by the standards of present-day worldwide womanhood?
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She can take pollen in her face, that’s for sure.
[CH: lol. and stamens.]
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I live in a college town. Lots of 8s and 9s here. You can call some of them 10s if you like. I don’t care. I think it’s a dorky argument.
All I know it’s like a paradise here. Very few fatties and tatted up hos. Mostly the townies that can’t handle life.
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College towns for the motherfucking win. Almost unfair to be redpilled in one as a young professional. All of your competition is in the major cities. All of the hottest, freshest women are right here. A glitch in the Matrix I’ve been pimping for half a decade now.
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There’s always a fresh crop of babes every Fall. Can’t go wrong with that kind of cycle.
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“I live in a college town. Lots of 8s and 9s here. You can call some of them 10s if you like. I don’t care.”
First, I believe you.
Second, I have been preaching location, location, location. Never underestimate it.
Third, and I have been saying this for a while, one persons 10 is another persons 9. The whole reason people like Trump and I use these numbers is to give some kind of a gauge as to what we are dealing with. Most players do not get offended if a guy says a particular gal is 10 when he may see her as a 9.
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Sentient has the best definitions for this number system. Most of us never even see a 10 and what we consider 9s are basically 7s. In his system – to paraphrase – 10s are females that don’t have to do anything but “be” and some rich guy will sweep her up and drown her in money.
Next down are 9s. They have to at least do something, like be supermodels or something.
Then – excuse me if i don’t get this exactly right – there are beautiful international hookers or something and then maybe “beautiful” actresses …anyway you get the picture
Sobering way of looking at it for us guys who think we might have banged an 8 or a 9 while in his system the “9” was maybe really a 7.
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“Sentient has the best definitions for this number system. Most of us never even see a 10 and what we consider 9s are basically 7s. In his system – to paraphrase – 10s are females that don’t have to do anything but “be” and some rich guy will sweep her up and drown her in money.
Next down are 9s. They have to at least do something, like be supermodels or something.
Then – excuse me if i don’t get this exactly right – there are beautiful international hookers or something and then maybe “beautiful” actresses …anyway you get the picture
Sobering way of looking at it for us guys who think we might have banged an 8 or a 9 while in his system the “9” was maybe really a 7.”
The problem with that system is that it is extremely flawed. Mush of the ratings are based on assumptions.
I see women all the damn time in my “location” that are better looking than super models. Had one of my boyz get Miss New York’s number a few weeks ago. Miss New York. Now she was great looking and was turning some heads but at the end of the day I see better looking women than her every fucking day. And remember only one women in New York can become “Miss New York”. I showed a few players a pic of one of my recent women in a bikini. They called her a 10 unanimously. I prefer to get third parties to validate the numbers because of personal bias.
Anyways too many guys attach the numbers value to a built in assumption.
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Thanks VD. Here is the system
10s are 9s that meet your peculiar lussts… I.e. bone white green eyed redheads…
9s are girls who literally live off of their looks… Either as models or trophies… They have no other skills. They are generally taller and remarkable faces and perfect proportions.
8s are “hollywood pretty”… Beautiful faces… But tend to be shorter and more squat dimensions. Playmates fit this category as well. Usually need to work and be good at something… Even if this is just acting or newsreading.
7s are the “totally hot girls” most guys see in real life who do not live in a major major money center or fashion city.
6s are cute or attractive girls with some flaws… Usually proportion either body or face. Or a good body and a plain face or a great face and a pearish body.
5s are plain girls who just pass the would bang test.
Putin demonstrates the value of this scale by comparing office girls in a suburban Starbucks to the girls who are better looking than the top supermodels are. Lolz….
Here is the test. Put them side by side.
As an aside it is perfectly fine to bang hot 7s…
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And herris another test… Who are the girls that your hot girl freezes up at… That she wishes was not in the room… That take all the attention away from her?
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I could confidently give her a 9, but of course, you’d have to see her entire body to be able to award the high honor of 10. Therefore, dumb question
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“Anyways too many guys attach the numbers value to a built in assumption”
…right on cue Sentient. With due respect to your game, which I believe is pretty damn good, you are a fool for judging my women without seeing any of them. Tells me you are still limiting yourself.
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Putin – you’ve posted pics of Indian and Persian “stars” in the past… as to “your” women… so the cat is out of that bag. Unless the insurance company across the street is a modelling agency…. LOLZ.
Here is a starting off point… http://www.wilhelmina.com/los-angeles/models/mainboard/women
Now the HOTTEST women are not even modeling… they are too voluptuous… but they are 5’8″ plus in height… they merely exist…
True beauty is powerful currency… That 5’4″ bleach blonde with big tits and and plump ass in the PR firm cannot stand next to a Claudia Schiffer in her prime.
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Be realistic in beauty assessments. Unless you are in the right parts of LA, Vegas, Miami, NYC or London – and in the right season – your chances of running into women like this on a weekly basis – in a daytime coffee shop no less – are nil. Just a fact.
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Now if you said you were a famous fashion photog – like Steven Lyon here – well… then it is all just another day at the office…
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5’9.5″ 34-24-35
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Likelihood of getting away with murder? 95%+? Probably in the 10 range then… LOL
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One last one… almost 5’10” – in motion… Creates a wake of energy in her path, everyone is looking – guys and girls… for blocks. seen it in person. a THOUSAND people looking and pointing, fucking cars honking, brakes squeeling. A near 10 in the wild is a force of nature.
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Claudia Schiffer was smoking. Completely forgot about her. She was there for me in my formative teenage years.
Was gonna put up/mention Niki Taylor, but looking at her photos just now, she looks more like a hot 7 than the 9ish I had placed her early in my days.
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Some nice pics Sentient. Now go out there and own it. Don’t limit yourself by thinking you can’t do it.
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Face is hot, but how can one truly evaluate without a full body shot?
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A 10? Maybe. How would I know. You can’t see her tits or ass in the pic.
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thesouthernohioan is correct. To determine if she is a 10, she has to be completely nude and make-up free AND you have to see her in real life. Not on a screen.
She is an 8.5 for me. Now, if I met her in the real world, she might be a 10.
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make up free, that is a good point.
expensive professional make up can make a 7.5 look like a 10 (or close to 10 ).
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Same. For all I can tell, she’s a pretty-faced fatty.
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Helen of Troy was the only 10 ever you philistines
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I hate to say it, but young Hanoi Jane was way out beyond 9.5:
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i used to date a chick from NYC whose dad had been a young LA scenester in the 60s and 70s. he once told me he was at a house party in BH and watched Jim Morrison seduce and then disappear into a bedroom with Jane.
Morrison always struck me as the single most alpha classic rock musician. Total asshole by all accounts, very ZFG in demeanor, but also had the tortured poet thing going. An aura built to push/pull bitches into frenzies.
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Shelly Long once screwed a man (or men) under a piano in the main room of the “Lillies” dorm at Northwestern University. That dorm eventually became the “Lindgren Residential College.” I don’t know what it is now.
Doesn’t matter if Jane was physical “10.” Like Shelly, she’s nuts.
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Shelly Long might be crazy, but I think in her prime she was a 10, or close. That was about when she was in “Night Shift,” circa 1983. As for Jane, I never found her attractive at all — masculine features, I thought, but that’s why we have variety in life.
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As somebody noted at the end of the thread, her name is Olga Chocolate (?)
and from what I can tell sort of misproportioned body, so only 9.
I’m sure I just broke her heart.
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Based on what I can see and guessing at the rest, I’d give her about a 7.5-8.And yes, there can be worlds of difference between a still pic and real life.
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And what shade of pink is her snatch?
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Must be pink, anything other than pink turns me off.
same with nipples.
I think my d1ck is racist!
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I was thinking the same thing. I need to see a full body pic before gauging.
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She is an 8 for me. I prefer a slightly a different look.
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I saw a picture of her onstage doing a play with Robert Redford in the early ’60s. She was just wearing panties and a bra. There are other less revealing photos of that scene you can find, but I’ve never stumbled upon that ONE photo I had seen. Let me tell you, she was unquestionably smoking hot in that pic.
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There’s just something about the way her hair is all over the place that at that moment, gives her that extra “damn!”
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That’s “JBF” hair, and totally rules
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Dunno. Can’t see her tits.
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This here. Big tits can give any chick 2+ points. Small tits can take of 3+.
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Before she got her tattoo, Michaela Isizzu was a hard 9 for me.
Be warned, some of her photos are NSFW.
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I’m unwilling to judge unless I am able to inspect the entire package. By implication, a “10” must be a Gesamtkunstwerk, no?
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Can she talk? Subtract a point for functioning vocal cords
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“Hmmm. Do we give her a brain?”
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where muh duck lipz?
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You’re welcome.
Anyone still question the JQ? http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2017/02/team-westport-a-case-study-in-anti-white-activism/
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After a while, you start to wonder just how many smoking guns are needed to prove the JQ without a doubt.
Every diversity promoting organization, Whiteness Studies department, major feminist, “anti-racist,” or “LGBTQBBQ” organization, or anti-huwyte organization, news outlet, or what have you is swarming with (((certain folk))), all of them working with an astounding singlemindedness and frenzied energy to discredit, demoralize, and destroy huwyte people.
Yet somehow it’s still viewed a vulgar and absurd to even mention the possibility.
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Over at zero hedge (((Martin Shultz))) wants to give recently invading shitskins the vote.
Why has no patriot shot him yet?
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So where are youse yeggs when shills come ’round chere stating that (((they’re))) merely frontrunning for Yankees… or that Puritans or the CIA or [anybody BUT (((them)))] are the real problem?
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It’s whack-a-kike around here lately, Greg. We do what we can.
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Heh, heh… good analogy.
And how much MORE fun would that game be if they replaced the cute little furry creatures with happy merchant haids? kekekekekekek
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Unquestionably gorgeous, but cannot confirm her 10 status without seeing her body
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She looks like a younger Melania. Beautiful.
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What’s up bro?
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Is this Philip Seymour Hoffman? What happened to twitter, bro?
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Yep. Man, I am like perma shoah’d lol. I’ve got a different account I will hit you up on eventually.
Fucking idiots think they are keeping people off their platform when what they are actually doing is driving us mainstream. Many such cases from what I am hearing. Funny thing is, it’s been years since I was non anon on social media and Trump has done such a good job with the frame, I can be pretty based in the open now.
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Haha, the Overton Window has shifted. I might start bringing whole milk to work. DM me on Twitter when you get a chance.
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Haha, funny you say that as I was tempted to do the same thing.
I’ve been on a milk binge as of late, killing about half a gallon a day. Forgot how uber delicious it is!
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I am a nerd, cause I like your use of the term asymptotically here.
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I can not rate a woman based on her face alone…if she is flat chested or worse, has a flat ass, she loses at least 3 points.
her face could be 10/10 or a 11/10 or a 15/10, if her body turns me off I don’t care much about her perfect face.
I have never had an erection for a woman because of her face alone, if her chest, her ass, her hips, legs are as devoid of curves as on a very skinny 9 year old boy, her face has not much value to me.
and before anyone starts pitting venom at me, here is something else, it is me who is right and you who are wrong.
full breasts and curvy hips are signs of fertility, when a man’s eyes sees signs of fertility, his dick is notified and gets hard.
that is how nature intended it.
There is a reason we like to look at photos and videos of naked women, there is a reason we masturbate to it and we do not masturbate to photos of faces.
of course a pretty face is damn nice, but playboy and penthouse magazine would have gone bankrupt after two months if they had published photos of faces only.
We can argue till we are blue in the face.
I’ve got millions of years of evolution agreeing with me.
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You’re wrong. No girl with a flat ass looks out at the world sweet, modest, but confident she is a queen.
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if when fvcking a woman from behind she has the same ass as any man, the same hips as any man and you do not mind, that does not make me wrong, it makes you attracted to women with man’s asses.
Are you also attracted to women who have chest hair?
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she’s pretty. She seems symmetric. Is her nose ideal tho? IDK about this 10 biz, sure I’d nut my jeans if she started to talk to me tho.
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Need a full frontal shot. In today’s world she could be packing a 6 inch and I’m not talking about sandwiches
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right? There’s always a trick.
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I prefer WB v WNB. Save time and makes more sense.
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what is WB v WNB ?
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Would Bang vs Would Not Bang
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when I was younger we had a third category; would let her suck my dick but would never put my dick in her.
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“when I was younger we had a third category; would let her suck my dick but would never put my dick in her.”
Lauren Graham fits this category.
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Come now Bully… women are for our pleasure. If it pleases one to dissect her appearance for sport… so be it. Like many hobbies, one size does not fit all.
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I think only a man has reached true aesthetic perfection. Think of how ruthlessly natural selection has acted on men.
[CH: evolution has provided men with the stronger sex drive to overcome the mediocre aesthetics of woman, whereas women were given a muted, slow to burn passion that prevents their unwise copulations with the multitude of aesthetically superior men.]
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it depends. Why do we have hot bitches while other places have to use copious levels of testosterone to make up for fug bishes? Prob cause God loves us. Celebrating beauty is therefore praising God while fucking fuglies is an affront to God.
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Faggot sez what?
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Gayest comment here in a while.
Women don’t care about aesthetics, so there is no (or at most, weak) aesthetic selection pressure on men. Such pressure is far stronger on women.
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a lot of this shit about women’s preference for looks is globohomo projecting gayballz onto women.
As guys we can’t even tell if it’s true or not because we assume our values are girls’ values as well. So, do bitches really care about 6pack abs or looking like zoolander? maybe a little but not as much as the equivalent female forms matter to us.
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Don’t tell Wolfie…
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ffs gay homosexual jew pretending to be a christian alert
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She’s undoubtedly hot, but I’m more partial to the Eastern Europeans (Russia, specifically).
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I think that IS an Eastern European.
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m0d…
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I think she is Eastern European, dude.
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A 10?
I don’t know.
What are her political viewpoints? Hate to meet a woman like that and have an “oh no it’s retarded!”™ moment.
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It’s subjective. Every man’s idea of a 10 is based on the equation “the mental image of the hottest girl I’ve ever seen + horniness level at time of first sight + nostalgia + level of unavailability”
[CH: it’s funny how that “hottest girls” always seem to be the same for every man.]
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There’s maybe a 1-2 point swing depending on guys personal preferences but that’s noise in what normally a pretty solid formula.
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Wow Observasaurus Rex. Sperging hard with that equation.
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CH is right. true that we all have personal preferences. ie: hair/eye color, tall vs petite, etc.
but hot is hot and every man sees it when it’s there. if you think she’s hot but no one else think so, she’s not hot.
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I give a 10 only if she is waxed to smooth perv-fection…
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[…] The Evanescent 10 […]
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What’s on display is a 10. What is out of sight might be or not.
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Probably sums it up best. Country girls are, in my opinion, overall the best group of girls when it comes to wife material, so the pastoral setting gives her a head start with my gut reaction.
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so we judge only female faces here based on if they look like a russian prostitute? No one gives a damn about height and body? No one has a fetish for latinas here?
But yeah, who am I kidding, every person who isn’t white should fucking die. Ukraine masterrace!
[CH: ukraine is weak (but sexy)!]
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Haha, a well-placed contextual Seinfeld phrase never gets old.
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And yet (((Seinfeld))) is a huge part of the problem.
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Naw… if (((they))) were all like (((Seinfeld))) the world would be a much funnier place.
Have a piece of Levi’s rye bread on occasion.
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“Naw… if (((they))) were all like (((Seinfeld))) the world would be a much funnier place.”
yeah, comparing the JFK assassination to spitting on someone is just hilarious. good wholesome family entertainment, right Greg?
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Ah, dweebsteamer, always hanging on ever Greg Eliot comment.
That scene was done for a reason, you dumbass and not the reasons you think.
The actor, Wayne Knight, that plays Newman was in the film JFK and during Garrison’s courtroom scene in which he explains Specter’s magic bullet theory, Knight is standing in for Gov Connelly, situated as he is in the show. They show’s having fun with that moment with some metahumor.
Furthermore, Seinfeld is mocking the magic bullet theory itself but your (((JIDF))) ass wants us all to believe it actually happened and was the lone reason for the assassination. Dumbshit!
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Mendoza Torres, the difference between you and 2nd Tier Greg as that you’re intelligent enough to know your limits, and you don’t diss other legit commenters out of misguided hubris, generally. defend him if you like, but you’re polishing brass on the Titanic…
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I’m chilling on the grassy knoll.
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dweebstreep swoops in again with his chilling douchery, and then calls others 2nd tier…
… well, boy… if I’m 2nd tier, you ain’t even in the stadium.
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Nice synopsis on the added satirical humor of the Wayne Knight/JFK connection, mendo…
dweebstreep’s feeling the red-ass spankin’ he just got and has to lash out, go figger.
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Jerry Seinfeld makes fun of almost everything and everybody.
A couple weeks ago he got in trouble for tweeting a blacklivesmatter joke
I doubt he agrees with the anti-white (((eskimos))) who are engineering this race replacement program every western nation is going trough right now.
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Well, if I have a ‘fetish’, it’s for the light blonde, blue-eyed Swedish, Finnish and Danish girls I remember from the 80s.
Little upturned noses, prominent cheek bones for a Euro, bonus points for a nice beach tan, freckles optional.
Usually very intelligent – dumb blonde jokes are bs – a little reserved at first, but a lot of fun once you get them going.
However, since that type is almost non-existent in these parts, but there are TONS of Latinas, I’ve become flexible.
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Beautiful and not conniving like Russians can be.
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CH – is it that nuanced expression that has you smitten?…… subtle vulnerability infused with deep physical confidence, tangled with the look of someone who is experiencing the deep satisfactions of the promise of soon-fulfilled desire, by way of the subject of her gaze, someone worthy of her submission?
Yes ….. her expression is very much arousing. But such is life …… these moments come and go … seize them when you can …….. she is certainly a “10” in that moment I agree.
[CH: boner poppage will be my counsel, but yes that vulnerability-seductress axis of contradiction in a woman is dynamite.]
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Firm believer in 10s here, in terms of being at least 2.5 standard deviations from the median.
This girl does little for me, however. 8, tops, unless this is just a really unflattering shot of her.
You trolling again, CH?
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I voted that she was a hard 10. I would have voted asymptotically approaching a 10, but in my world I round up.
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I’m always skeptical to vote in these due to fear of tranny.
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I’m definitely autistic enough to go with 9.5. I might even do 9 if I’m promised immunity…
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If she’s a Russian, I’d say 7.5.
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great rifle
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‘Waiter, taste this soup please. I can’t, there isn’t any spoon. Ahhh, you understand.’ What you can see is cute, what about the rest?
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Beautiful, but no 10. Definite 8+ though.
I say Monica Bellucci is the only 10 I’ve seen.
[CH: i’ve seen a couple of walkabout 10s in my life. (i can still recall that glowing tall flaxen blonde girl floating down the street one night long ago). among celebrities, maybe megan fox in her prime.]
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Monica Bellucci is the only 10 I’ve seen on the silver screen. Hollywood is full of 8s and 9s with professional makeup. Hell, there are 7s in Hollywood that appear close to 10 after a little “touching up”.
I’ve seen walkabout 10s. Always at odd times. Always with a friend. Always in small towns, with one exception (Boston).
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Add that I think per capita and probably in toto hotties are thickest on the ground in Miami (IMO it beats LA hands down). Dallas with an honorable mention.
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Göteborg, Malmö, København in the mid-80’s – 8s, 9s, 10s as far as the eye could see.
Even the ‘plain’ girls were still at least 6s.
Heart attack a minute.
Holland and Germany were also pretty darn good.
Most gorgeous girl I’ve personally ever known – Alexandra from Århus in Denmark.
Classic Barbie come to life.
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I was going to propose Bellucci in her prime.
I’d also nominate Valeria Mazza in her prime for 10 status.
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Megan Fox is proof that 10s are subjective. I find her hot in a slutty way but not absolutely beautiful. Definitely an 8 but I prefer blue or green eyes and pure white girls.
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She looks like an expensive whore
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Once a girl is 8, we have all agreed that she is pretty. She’s a hottie. We know that. Then, for 8+ girls, we dissect her appearance for sport. We never agree on the “best” woman. Men don’t agree because some men like blondes with upturned noses, other men like Penelope Cruz.
In Middle English literature, curly hair is a necessary component of a beautiful woman.
In Persian literature, beautiful women are said to have noses like hazelnuts.
A study using Polish participants by Sorokowski found 5% longer legs than average person leg to body ratio for both on man and woman was considered most attractive.
In the Victorian era, a small waist was considered the main trait of a beautiful woman.
In Sanskrit literature, beautiful women are often said to have breasts so large that they cause the women to bend a little bit from their weight. A study of British undergraduates found younger men preferred small breasts on women.
10s are subjective.
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Megan Fox is the most unattractive beautiful woman I’ve ever seen.
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tomjones == J00lyweird/JYC Skype obsessed with schtooping the shiksa ho’s.
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yeah, megan fox is a looker but comes off like a real bish. never have liked her.
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In the ’50’s, Grace Kelly.
In the ’60’s, Sophia Loren and Raquel Welch.
In the 21st Century, Angelina Jolie circa Mr. and Mrs. Smith
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A while ago, CH had us rate a trap on the WB scale and I got fooled so I still don’t entirely trust him. I had to check that it isn’t April Fools day again.
I hope there’s no catch here.
But in obese America, where fat acceptance Meghan Trainor is the average body, that pictured girl is somewhere in the 90-100% easily, so I picked “approaching a 10,” even if she’s not really the first thing I would picture in the spankbook.
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Meghan Trainor average? That girl is svelte compared to most of what I see down at Target.
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how can you judge without seeing her t&a?
[CH: interpolation.]
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lol CH is a nerd voted asymptotic aggressively approaching 10 lol
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I used to see a 10 here and there at a gym I went to. She was tall, blonde, and had really sharp cheek bones and pouty lips. She was a bit past 30 then and apparently hadn’t aged at all. I would have loved to see her when she was 20. Honestly she could have been a victoria’s secret model if she wanted. There were rumours she had divorced some bloke who owed HM revenue millions but got a nice pay out from it. So obviously she was a big deal since everyone was talking about her. Everytime I saw her, seriously, I would see at least one person try to approach her. She really created a stir as I recall. But that was the only 10 I ever saw in person.
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Can’t imagine how much hate I’ll get for this but I like slightly chubby chicks whose physiognomy signals shivlady/shitlord intelligence (The Le Pen’s + a little bit more weight). Although if you were to ask me for an objective 10 I would probably say Morena Baccarin.
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Beware, any of you who use online dating…
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From what I can see, the blonde is a seven, maybe 7.5 if her body is hot.
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^She’s nowhere near HB10.
A better example:
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Online ‘dating’ – where Danny deVitos look for Megan Foxes and find Roseanne Barrs – who are looking for Brad Pitts.
Not counting the billions of fakes, of course.
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Roseanne improved her $#!t dramatically as she aged — coincidentally about the time she became a Trump-lovin’ Nationalist. Credit where credit is due.
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If I asked out #1 and ended up with #2, I would claim emotional “Robbery, Assault & Battery.” She needs to be stamped “human bacon.”
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#1:
‘Why don’t you touch me, touch me,
Why don’t you touch me, touch me,
Touch me now, now, now, now, now!…’
#2:
‘The Squonk is of a very retiring disposition and due to its ugliness,
weeps constantly. It is easy prey for hunters who simply
follow a tear-stained trail. When cornered it will dissolve itself into tears.’
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You’d have to see her arse first.
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Normalized to age 20 and same-race-as-beholder, and assuming no genetic defects, one would expect POTENTIAL to be distributed with mean 7 and SD 1 (of course there are many failure modes whereby they don’t reach their potential). This model says 1 in 740 women have the potential to be hard 10s, which sounds about right, and some of them would be 11s if you extended the scale. But individual tastes can add a point so one man’s 9 is another one’s 10. (Individual tastes won’t subtract a point within the same race/ethnicity, so a true “hard 10” will be a 10 for everyone but some who are objectively 9 will be 10s for some men.)
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9 inspires uncontrollable lust
10 blinds with her luminosity at first glance
[CH: that’s exactly what happened to me when i saw that hard 10 walking down the street late at night with her girlfriends. the other girls disappeared into nothingness and there she glided, my body and mind driven into a warm rigor mortis as i took in her glow.]
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My short scale: 10 Goddess 9 Gorgeous 8 Hot 7 Cute 6 OK 5 Plain 4 Homely 3 Ugly 2 Hideous (1s and 0s exist but are not worth contemplating long enough to find an adequate adjective)
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1-motorized Walmart cart driver
0- Nyarlatothep
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-1: Lena Dumpster
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lol
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I know she is a 10 when I can’t think straight and when all my airtight one-liners come out sounding like my impersonation of a goofy retarded kid.
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Just speaking for myself here….
Helga Lovekaty is the only girl I’ve seen that immediately had me thinking “holy hell, she is hands-down a 10”.
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You’re easily amused. Candice Swanepol is a true 10.
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as is Elsa Hosk
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Hey, not bad. Candice is indeed up there. At the very least, it looks like we agree as far as the type of body a ’10’ would have.
Elsa looks great too…. legs for days.
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If she isn’t an urbanite, as the picture suggests. 10/10
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I think 10s are usually abnormally tall, of the 15 or so girls in my life i have seen who i would say are 10s(you always remember a 10 when you see one) most have been around 5 ft 9 tall or a bit more, maybe it is just that legs look a lot better when a girl is taller than average and most men are very attracted to legs.
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pretty zen, I get it.
It doesn’t matter. She’s a 10 not because she’s a 10 but because if you argue about how hot she is it shows you’re a fucking internet retard gayfag nerd.
Like I said earlier, she may not be Megan Fox in Transformers hot hot but I’d probably spooge my pants if she asked me for the time. And so would you.
[CH: any 8s and above are fuckable to all but the most slaked men. once we get above the “cute 7” range, we’re not arguing fuckability anymore but rather marriageability.]
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We can’t see her body, but her upper arms indicate higher than normal weight. And it appears she has brown eyes, which totally disqualify her in my opinion. Only, ever hit on blue eyes. Becoming too rare to fuckup the gene pool. IMHO.
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My thoughts as well – slim and trim girls have likewise appendages. Also, we cannot see if a double chin sags forth with the hair in the way. With the lower body out of view as well, accurate judgement can’t be dispensed. The impression I’m getting from the pic is one of secrecy – which is the opposite behavior from girls found at the top of the rating scale who have nothing they need to hide from the lens, often in clever ways.
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IME, girls who hide their chest in pics don’t have one.
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No her arm pressed into leg. Not fat. Check the scapula.
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I don’t give 10’s. And even if she was one, I would not say it.
Men who fawn over women are beta.
[CH: ah it’s ok to fawn over women on a blog thread amongst men (and curious ladies). just don’t do it IRL when real pussy is on the line.]
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What you’re saying is that every heterosexual man is Beta, because there is no straight man who hasn’t either had a massive crush or drooled over some hottie in a magazine. If this is the case, then I guess the only true Alphas f*ck other men. “No women for men! I’m above that! I’m so Alpha I take it up the a**…like a man!!!”
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What I am saying is that even if you think she is a 10, make her work for your attention. If you give her a 10 then she does not need to do anything more and probably won’t. If you want a woman to be a 10, they want it worse and most women no matter how attractive they are very competitive with other women and often very uncomfortable with their looks. It is like a golf score. If you look at the PGA, the average score between the leader and the worst player is only a few stokes but it makes all the difference.
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That girl goes by the name “Olga chocolate” (weird) on Instagram. CH can present further exhibits that will prove she is indeed a 10.
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Here she is: Olga Katysheva
Verdict: 10″
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lolol my dicks on fire now
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no way
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Very close to 10 for me. Eyes and nose are slightly off. Forehead is just a bit too high.
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Yeah Cortesar shows us a true 10 face.
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kinda preferred the mystery tbh. but yeah, insta shows she’s 10-ish.
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the joker ricktus
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in a more sexually-conservative era a woman’s face was her prime asset. now she has to show the whole package, that she’s not just another pretty face, but that she’s also built to last.
which is interesting if you think of who the prime market for 10s are, per VD’s comment above. is a rich guy with a good head start from inherited wealth gonna be able to satisfy a body like that as much as, say, cross fit Joe the plumber guy?
so maybe there’s a rich man’s 10, and a poor man’s 10. I’d say Olga is a poor man’s 10, a little too much t-n-a, not quite enough face-n-grace. just my type, actually…
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On a good night at da club, there are a dozen like her or better.
Still nice.
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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Her hair is brown.
< 10
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Aids?
http://6abc.com/news/radio-and-tv-host-alan-colmes-dead-at-66/1768906/
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Wouldn’t a hard 10 have to be blonde haired, blue eyed?
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a 10 has to be under 25 years old. everything else is negotiable.
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Google “hot Israeli army girls”
We can then begin to discuss the definition of a “10”.
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Today’s hot Israeli army girl is tomorrow’s yenta.
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Israeli girls (and jew females worldwide) have a tiny window of beauty before they become *cough* gorda. That’s yiddish for fat -according to yahoo.
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Definitely need to see the whole body to rate her properly. But for what I can besides the pretty face, her arm is not thin enough, probably then rest of body not perfect either. NOT A 10
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She’s an 8.5 to me. There are objective standards of beauty upto 9 but a 10 is subjective. For example, my perfect woman would be considered not perfect by nogs and wiggers because I don’t like fat asses.
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An example of what I find perfect would be Grace Kelly or Ingrid Bergman.
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Those were Hitchcock’s gold standard…
Grace Kelly had the perfect face, and there was something about her attitude in Rear Window I found compelling, but she wasn’t voluptuous enough for my taste.
Bergman had a better body, a plainer face, but if I had to choose between the two, she’d be closer to my preference. Maybe she seemed more approachable. A gal like Kelley was strictly for the upper crust.
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Heartise have you noticed beauty standards in Hollywood have changed. Compare the most attractive (or those held up as most attractive) women today to those from the Golden Age such as Marilyn Monroe, Grace Kelly, Ingrid Bergman, Janet Leigh, Tippi Hedren etc?
I believe the beauties from yesteryear are desirable to the highly K selected but as our society has become more r selected our tastes have shifted
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Marilyn was one of those girls who will turn all men in her presence into instantly drooling erect1ons and all women into h@ting h@ters who h@te with blind fury.
Grace Kelly – Coldly gorgeous, but almost too skinny.
Ingrid Bergman – pass, that nose…..
Janet Leigh doesn’t ring enough of a bell can’t recall ever having heard of Tippy Hedren.
VIVIEN Leigh, otoh, was a 10 in my book.
Batsh1t crazy, but if you’re that hot, you can get away with a lot of crazy.
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Vic Leigh was partly Indian. Dot Indian.
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Hot nonetheless.
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Janet Leigh was drop-dead gorgeous, and with a body-and-a-half in her earliest films. At her heydey in Psycho she was actually starting to show signs of the approaching wall, ‘though maybe they didn’t doll her up as much as they good have.
Vivian Leigh? Meh… she never had that great a body, and her spoiled brat original go-grrl persona in GWTW soured her forever, in mah book.
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This is what happens when mystery meats are touted as beauties, and queers are pushing the boy-looking, go-grrl agenda for all it’s worth.
Back in the day, you only had to put up with the occasional Hepburns and got mostly eye candy that could act well enough.
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Dont get butthurt over the results and scrap the poll when its not to your liking. I heard thats a common trend nowadays lol
Also cant see body so im basing at a 7.5/10 until further information becomes available
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I’ve seen one ten in my life. I assume she was a model (young, tall, skinny, with mom, flight heathrow to NYC). I stood right behind her at check in.
A few observations:
Tens are pretty objective. I’m sure every guy has a type, but a real ten is a ten to most people.
The difference between an 8 or 9 and a 10 is HUGE. In my prime I think I was up there, certainly “very pretty”, and this girl and i might as well have been different species. The gulf was so huge I didn’t even feel that twinge of annoyance girls feel when someone comes to take their precious attention away. All I felt was awe.
Others people’s reaction. Women stared more and for longer than men, while men (maybe because she looked so young?) would look away and then sneak looks. Very thirsty looks.
To really know if it’s a ten I think you have to see in person. The girl in the picture is gorgeous but the ten I saw was orders of magnitude better looking. Literally perfect. Maybe the author is banging this chick and just wants to brag.
9.9 😝
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Joanna Krupa in her prime was most likely a ten. She’s in her 30s now and better looking than most 20 year olds. I don’t know how to post. Have some agency, goys.
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Screw social assumptions. What does your DNA say!
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There isn’t enough of meadow girls face showing to make a decision on a more definite higher number rank, also given that she’s too far away / the pic is too low resolution.
I have no doubt that, given the shape that she’s in, her youth, and her relative facial symmetry that she’s a hot girl.
However, seeing below makeup is a learned skill.
One would have to have a closer look to decide how much work her makeup is doing. Most men will over-rate a woman with professionally done makeup.
I’d venture that there is a significant difference, say, between Giselle Bundchen and Meadow girl sans make-up. Slav girls can look good when slim and young, but as they fill out their actual flawed bone structure becomes more apparent. Whereas a functional 10 like Bundchen will be objectively beautiful (for her age) into old age, and even if she were to gain ten pounds.
I’m not saying that meadow girl isn’t 9.5 (given no true tens), only that it is unlikely and difficult to tell.
Anyway, she’s obviously hot enough that I would tie her up in a basement. I don’t mean to give the impression that I wouldn’t.
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for me a 10 is a perfect woman, not close to perfect but perfect, to date I have only seen 4 in the flesh, and only fucked 1
The first one I saw saw back in the late 90s in collage, I was in a lecture hall with about 70 males and 2 females when this absolute goddess just walked into the room, and the large room which was full of noise and talk just fell instantly silent, she was just amazing, still the best looking woman I ever saw
The perfect 10 I fucked was a WG in Frankfurt years ago, what a woman, a perfect 10 and pure filth
IMO I expect to see less than 10 perfect 10s in all my days
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First rule of upping your game is to destroy the preconceived notions of what you think is or is not possible.
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Well, I like ’em with a girl-next-door face and a bit more meat on the bones, so if a 10 is possible, I’d say:
Judi Bowker (bathing scene in Clash Of The Titans)
Anita Ekberg (before she got too heavy)
Anna Nicole Smith (at her best in Playboy, so long as she don’t talk)
The first official “supermodel” before that term was ever used, became a never-quite-hit-big-time actress from the late 50’s, early sixties named Suzy Parker. A bit too thin for my taste, but I think you could say she was a 10.
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Let me add, pictures don’t seem to do Ms. Parker justice… see one of her movies, e.g., Kiss Them For Me (bonus Jayne Mansfield co-star) or The Best Of Everything, to get her true measure.
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Judi Bowker was a close 10. That face. That body. Everything about her.
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While I don’t deny this girl has good looks, her arms have a little too much flesh for my tastes, indicating a penchant for inactivity. Not a HB10, but could be with a little toning effort.
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Does anyone else get weary of hearing about how hot Jennifer Lawrence is? 7.5 in my book. Beautiful woman, but not a rare beauty.
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Jennifer Lawrence has a vulnerable look which makes her oddly feminine compared to the high T manjaws that make up a lot of Hollywood.
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JL is a 7 with make-up, a 5 without.
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I still don’t know how she got famous. I guess a 7.5 with an incredible PR team.
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She fits in with that “cute, but not too intimidating to other women” look that women think men should find sexy.
Much like a plethora of female stars these days and over the years… Amy Adams, Uma Thurman, Sandra Bullock, Natalie Portman, Julia Roberts, Audrey Hepburn, etc., etc., etc.
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Rigged poll so didn’t vote out of principle.
Anyway she’s clearly and obviously an 8.
My own personal ideas of a physically beautiful 10 would be porn whore Nicole Aniston or Jenna Jameson in her youthful prime specifically in her porn whore movie titled “Pure” specifically in the scene where she’s on the bed all alone for anyone who might want to look up said movie.
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You’re right about Nicole Aniston, she’s wacky gorgeous. But she needs to chill out on the ab exercises.
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I don’t like the 1-10 scale because I’ve seen you use it on both men and women.
You can’t equate the scales though. If female 10s exist, then it means on the same scale male 100s exist. Progressively hotter women eventually reach the point where, OK, they’re hot. Once she’s maxed out the scale of hotness, there’s really nothing left for her to boost her SMV. I suppose she could then start working on being less crazy (per the hot/crazy scale), but with her legions of beta orbiters and alpha suitors inflating her ego this is all but impossible. Even if it were possible, fine, a girl with hotness of 10 and craziness of 1 has maxed out.
Men have no fitness ceiling. If the absolute hottest and least crazy woman in the world has a SMV of 10, then Donald Trump is still a 100+ if using the same scale. If you have to normalize both scales to 1-10 and make Trump (or Dr. McDreamy, or whoever) a 10, then 95% of men are a 1 to 2. Very few men exist who fall in the 3-9 range. Perhaps your doctors, dentists, fighter pilots, etc., but there aren’t many of these.
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How can we tell if she has a fat arse or flappy labia? What if she has a hairy arsehole and three nipples. She could have one of those big toes that looks like a thumb and a small little genetic throwback tail. I feel this is a set up. Please post a picture of her lady bits for proper assessment.
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There will never be another Sophia Loren.
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Now that we know who she is:
1. Some facial flaws don’t necessarily detract: she’s got a ‘diamond’ to the bridge of her nose – the kind of thing you get with a ‘broken nose’ (dented cartilage), though that is usually larger than hers.
2. More detracting for me are the somewhat cartoonish proportions of her body. This is an idea promoted by Stephen Pinker in which rare beauty evolves to be almost impossibly unnatural. The ‘boys with boobs’ look of the last 20 years is the prime example – big tits, narrow waist, not much hips and ass – it’s neither natural nor even feminine. This chick definitely does have an ass, it’s just that she seems to trend toward hyper hour-glass, although the ‘selfie-look’ seen these days does accentuate that in a lot of pix. Thing is, if 36-24-36 has long been ideal hourglass, what’s the cartoon of that: 38-22-38? 40-20-40? With tits and ass implants almost any skinny young chick could get that these days – the waist is the limiting factor. Will we go back to corsets? Definitely with Kardashian and negritude, boys-with-boobs has been done for awhile, and its relative, muscle-girrl, may almost be done. Hyper hour-glass seems to be a thing right now.
3. Re Poon Rule ‘Ignore her Beauty’: one trick for this is to get close enough to see her pores. Look at some of Olga’s Instagram shots. All bitches have pores and when you see them it takes off 2 points in your mind – maintains your frame.
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she also avoid the duck lip phenomenon that some wannabe models on the net get. They fill those bitches up with collagen. Who told girls that this was hot?
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Jack Nicholson’s first wife Sandra Knight was pretty close.
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9.5. Need to see her body to be sure. Being a 10 would require red hair and blue eyes.
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Being a 10 would require the features a man wants. So for you red hair and blue eyes. For me Sharon Tate-like face on Brooklyn Decker-like body.
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I was in love with a 10 once and I nearly died… Never cheat to give yourself the confidence to date your own girlfriend, and then get found about it. That’s my advice.
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*found out*
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She is an 8,best. 8.5 or even 9 for some…but 8 on average. Pending you are used to see attractive women (not even f*ck them,just be around them).
Like roosh who would post pics of 7 as “dream women” (and everything about him suddenly became clear and logical); CH too made a small tactical mistake here IMO.
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Roosh is a clever beta male who succeeds because so many guys are clueless at game. They choke up when talking to a 5. Roosh got some pussy because he knows how to talk.
Then the clueless omegas started following Roosh as if he was the Zeus of twat. Roosh’s inherent betaness came out when he posts pics of those 7s.
“she’s so hawwwwt” (and everything about him suddenly became clear and logical)
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Too chubby for a ten
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No such thing as perfection.
Giving a chick a 10 is beta.
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The world’s one true ten
Marion Le Pen
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She’s waaayyyyyy too soft on Islam.
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10? Are you kidding? Where’s the tits? 😡
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Young MF
Can’t get prettier than that.
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You are insane. She’s a 6.5 on a good day.
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Michelle Pfeifer?
No body to speak of, ribs showing, big turn-off.
Great face, but after Scarface, I’ll always picture her at a burnt out coke whore.
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yep, i’m seriously questioning people’s powers of discernment around here. i think it’s the blonde hair. see so many who will swoon and lose focus on everything else as soon as they see it. not my thing since i prefer brunettes but i do get why people like it. it’s not enough to make her a 10 though.
look past the hair for a minute and what do you see? she’s shaped like a teenage boy. damn skinny, broad shoulders, no tits, no ass, square face, and a serious manjaw.
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Even in the posted pics, she looks a bit shop-worn.
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I remember that movie from decades ago, “10”, where I first heard the concept of a “perfect woman”. The chick had cornrows. She was pretty, but… seriously, fucking cornrows. I was youngish, going through puberty with a constant permaboner, and all I could think at the time was something along the lines of her being unattractive. Because of the fucking cornrows. It would be the same today; I don’t give a damn how pretty she is, if she’s got a disqualifier, then she’s no longer pretty.
These crazy feminists who mar themselves so men won’t treat them like meat: they’re fucking broken on the inside. The outward expression of that broken mind is purposeful unattractiveness.
If she’s got cornrows, then she’s ugly on the inside. Don’t overlook the warning signs.
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That was Bo Derek… a beauty, of course, but those cornrows definitely didn’t add to the package… still, it was just a beads n’ rows sort of fun thing that a lot of hippie-dippy chicks liked to do, back in the day… they fancied it gave them an exotic look, nothing more.
She was recently in one those Sharknado movies, playing the mom of the lead actress who herself had already hit the wall, so if anyone wants to keep their fond memories of the first official “10”, then don’t look at her now.
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Maybe it’s because the picture is at least semi-professional and on the internet but I can’t see giving this woman a 10.
Or anything above 7 or 8 being generous.
Will I defend my point or find counter examples? Nope. Too lazy for that.
Chick is what every woman could be if they grew their hair out and put down the big mac’s.
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