It’s been too long since our last reader mailbag, so here we go. The emails have piled up to an unmanageable level, which means if you don’t see your question answered here, stay tuned for future reader mailbags.
Email #1 is from a reader who wishes to remain anonymous. The Niceguy’s Lament:
Dear CH,
They say the first step to fixing a problem is recognizing there is one. My problem is this: I’m a gamma. I’m 23, unkissed, I’m often called a nice guy and been rejected numerous times as a result. I fall into the trap of the worship/hate dichotomy of women. I catch the gaze of a lot of girls at uni, though, so I’m not all that unattractive. I’ve slowly began to realize that it’s not the women that’s the problem but myself. I have no game and hardly have the confidence to make advancements. When I do talk to girls, it’s the same old nice-guy small talk. Since reading your blog, though, I’ve hit the gym five times a week and have gained a chin and some confidence—after all, I do have a sizable cock. My question is this: is there hope for me and how do I get game? I want change.
Thanks.
First, a sizable cock is an asset…but only after you’ve seduced a woman into bed. Unless you’re in the habit of plonking your peter on the table for awestruck girls to gaze at hungrily, you won’t have any chance to leverage that asset until all the hard work is already done.
To your main gripe, what you’re suffering and feeling is the Niceguy’s Lament. You get eyeplay, but it never goes anywhere. Girls keep telling you you’re “a great guy” and it feels like a punch to the gut, because you know by now it means “a great guy who’s not drinking this milkshake”. Small talk inevitably leads nowhere, so here’s what you’ve got to do. I’ll give you a very simple instruction to follow, and all I want is for you to gauge girls’ reactions for any changes from prior experience.
Instead of the usual small talk, say this:
“Hey, I love your glasses/dress/shoes! My mom wears those too.”
That’s it. This is called “small talk with a shiv twist”, aka a neg aka a backhanded compliment. Watch closely for girls’ reactions; you’ll be pleasantly surprised by how indignant and yet, curious, they become toward you.
Do this wee babby step, and get back to us with a progress report. We’ll work on you from there.
PS Cut your gym time to three days per week. You’re either over-training, or not training hard enough in each session, given how you are able to recover so quickly for consecutive workouts.
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Email #2: A female reader, leveledup, wants to know what to call a female shitlord.
Shivgirl names:
How about shivlet, shivstress, shivdolly, princess of the shiv, pinkpiller, or misschiv?
Thoughts? CH’s first stab at this problem was “shivlady”.
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Email #3: Eggplantzzz tries to explain the rise of beta male thirst.
I was wondering if in the past, the “expectation” of marriage and faithfulness allowed most betas to be less desperate and made it easier for them to act like they have options. More precisely, since promiscuity wasn’t normalized and most womyn pretended to be chaste betas in a way “didn’t feel threatened” to perform, or weren’t so anxious about their status/performance.
Short answer: Yes. Options will exert their marital market leverage whether objectively available to the man or perceived as such by him. Beta male thirst is really an inverse function of real or perceived mate options; the more options, the less thirst. We are seeing record high levels of beta male thirst now because the sex market, for multiple reasons discussed at this blog, favors women; this skew doesn’t have to be large, only large enough to strongly affect the margins until there’s a huge ripple effect extending out over the entire playing field.
Beta males who feel as though marriage with an under-30, feminine, slender woman is a realistic expectation are of course less likely to litter women’s Faceborg feeds with “you go grrl!” motivationals and the tepid wayward seed of their fapped-out blue balls.
The good news is that there’s a hidden treasure waiting to be unearthed in a female-biased sexual market, for any man who has Game. The more women are clumsily hit on by anti-Game thirsty beta males, the more eagerly they’ll lap up the sexy ministrations of the aloof alpha cad who acts as if the world of women is his harem.
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Email #4 is from Padawan, who needs advice about how to open chicks on dating apps like Tinder.
Hail lord and saviour.
Now that’s an intro I can strut in behind.
I’m a new learner on the path to the truth and I’m having a good progression but my weak point is sending the opener texts at dating apps like okcupid/tinder etc. I’m successful at dating and bedding women I meet irl , however usually I am clueless about what to say in the first message to get the chicks interested on virtual platforms. I have far less trouble with keeping the conversation and directing the topic to sex and meeting up *when* my opener gets through but that’s the only real trouble I have, it usually doesn’t get through especially when it’s with empty profiles that I have to make shit up out of blue (which I assume is the real thing that differentiates real winner alphas from the semi-betas) [ed: it can’t hurt] so I’d be grateful if you wrote a guide on how to open up with good starters for your young learners. And thank you for all your helpful articles.
Check the CH archives for online Game; there’s too much info to recap here. I’ll keep it brief, instead, to get the ball rolling for you.
Tinder/OkCupid and the rest are FEMALE ATTENTION WHORE VEHICLES. That means,
- don’t feed their egos
- jolt them out of their expectations that a deluge of beta male thirst is their due
Abide those two rules and your online dating adventures will feel like a spring breeze blowing through labial leaves.
In practice, these two online dating rules mean:
- be terse
- don’t be long-winded
- don’t be needy (end chats first)
- assume familiarity
- don’t get bogged down in emotional conversation
- don’t fall into the girl’s frame (always be framing)
- push-pull is your friend (push more than you would pull)
- a neg or disqualification opener right out of the gate is perfectly acceptable
- you may experiment with “going the full asshole” in the dating app milieu
Remember, the girl is chasing you; you’re not chasing the girl.
A classic PUA OkTinder opener is the following:
you’re everything I thought I never wanted in a girl
Delightfully ambiguous, something girls can’t resist. Downside: this may be played out by now. (Some of the hardcore online daters ie sluts might recognize it coming from other newbie womanizers.)
In a world of thirsty betas, the man who qualifies women right away will stand out. So try this, too:
are you cool?
Simple and direct, and however she answers, you can reply “I’ll be the judge of that.” Chicknip!
There’s the sneaky opener:
woops. i meant to swipe left
And the all-purpose birthday cat opener:
Finally, I will reveal a new tingle triggerer that is TNT, a combination of asshole + disqualification game + attention whore hamster nuking, so be careful when deploying it.
This last one is actually best used as an opener or early on, in response to nothing particularly nagger-ish by the girl, because she’ll wonder what she’s done to earn this repudiation.
Girl: “? what i do?”
Underworld Emissary: “nothing, yet. I’m just getting it out there now and out of the way.”
PS Here’s a guy who claims to have a pickup routine that puts Tinder on “God mode”. Note the Game elements he uses: eliciting a girl’s values, intriguing a girl through storytelling, female preselection (“I’ll tell you mine that happened last night”), and a solid DQ (“it’s prob better than yours”).
Here’s one of my all-purpose faves.
Disclaimer: It only works once per girl. So keep track.
Her: “What are you wearing tonight?”
Me: “I dunno. Whatever passes the sniff test.”
Girls uniformly think this is hilarious.
I guess it conveys a certain je ne sais quoi.
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I like shivstress, personally, but shivlady is more complementary.
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If the first guy is at “uni” he should find out of there are ballroom dance classes or dance meetups. The physical contact and female pheromones will get him over the terror of approaching women. Repeated exposure to cheerful young ladies negates rejection fears. Pretty soon he will know all the hotties on campus. He will have to move it beyond beta stage though, don’t just be dance friend.
Well, my wife texted me that her sister wants to take us out to dinner and I replied “ok” but could they drop me off at the massage? and she texted back “ok”.
Now that’s text game, Niggums.
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It might not be so easy to get into a ballroom dance class. At Penn State you needed to register for the class with a dance partner. A cutie asked me to take the class with her, but all available classes were completely filled by PhysEd majors.
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“PhysEd Majors” at a Div I football powerhouse? Hello mudsharkery!!!
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That’s too bad. When I took the classes there were always about 50% more followers than leaders, so they would rotate the ladies through the men. I was able to take Balllroom 101 about a dozen times because there was always demand for men.
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Taking up dancing is fantastic advice.
Not only will dancing make young lads comfortable with touching women, they’ll learn that women *love* to be touched by a man in a socially acceptable, plausibly-deniable way. It’s good exercise too.
Another thing dance teaches you is how to lead. Women *love* to be led gracefully by a man who knows what he’s doing, in dancing and everything else. It gets them horned up.
Dancing has huge parallels with Game, and hugely valuable to your Game skills. And a great way to meet girls.
Just like Game, you’ll suck at first. You’ll see the skilled men dancers and feel like a chump. Experienced women dancers won’t enjoy dancing with you. Suck it up and take your lumps like a man. Never apologize for a lack of skills, own your frame, don’t be a wallflower. The only way to get good is by doing.
Swing was my favorite. Relaxed and fun, attracted wholesome girls. Salsa was good too. Much more technical and charged with raw sexual energy. Salsa attracted more sluts in my experience. Your mileage may vary.
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That was my general experience. Beginners need to know that nobody is laughing at them for their poor dance skills. After I got good at it had numerous girls compliment me for staying on beat, which must be the biggest problem they have with novice men. Also learning to present a solid frame. A good dance class will teach you these things in a relaxed atmosphere. If you are lucky it will be full of dames. Tango is also worth checking out in addition to Salsa. Learn Latin steps and your social possibilities skyrocket.
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Dance classes, today:
Those held by or for student age peeps are ok, but the same principles that govern Life in General govern them also: Tall,hawt,young guy with rich daddy gets girls.
If he can also dance, great. If not, she’ll pretend he can.
Other guys, regardless of skill level, are, at best, 5-minute entertainment for Her Royal Hotness.
Dance studios are often hugely expensive – especially if you plan on going there more than once – and almost exclusively the domain of the 50+ crowd.
Partly because they’re the only ones with sufficient dough, partly because the behavior and attitudes of these dinosaurs chases any younger, attractive people away faster than you can say ‘overbearing’.
For general dancing in the wilds of bars, night clubs or similar venues, see first paragraph.
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We know you feel inadequate, Whpofie. Stop recruiting.
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Wolfie is the chateau’s version of Debbie Downer. kekekekek
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2nd Tier Greg is the chateau’s version of Homer Simpson.
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That’s about your speed, kid. If brains were dynamite, you couldn’t blow your nose.
Do you do Taco Bell commercials in-between stints of nipping at the ankles of your betters?
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I add: one needs 110 percent clarity on how dupliticous the female can be. So, read Rollo until it’s clear. That may take some time to get through: it’s quite dense at times. Then, it’s a lot easier to game because you understand your target audience and you’ve had a chance to process the beta out of the atmosphere. And loose the hover hand. Roll model President Trump.
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This is great advice.
But it’s hard to motivate a guy until he’s had his guts ripped out a few times. A few times being raked in a significant way would help to shake off the naivitee and get him ready to study.
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I like that term to describe the beta trap, naiveté: lack of sophistication, experience, judgement or worldliness; artlessness; gullibility; credulity. The female have a good radar for this characteristic, and absolutely take advantage of it. So it’s best to be aware of this constraint and manage it. How so? Set out your plans and then start to deliver them. Stay fit. From that frame, invite women into YOUR life, not the other way around.
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For #2: how about misshiv. (Though that does have a yiddish ring to it.)
Mulva? Shivtoris?
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hahahahhahahaha. mulva is pure foul gold.
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Everything ‘shiv’ has a Y1d ring to it – obviously – and it might behoove alt-right, WNs and like minded folk to refrain from such middleeasternery.
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Even worse, the etymology is Gypsy/Romany/whatever the thieving bastards are calling themselves.
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Would commenting on a woman’s facial expression be a possibility here? Like “Oh you look bored” and maybe teasing her about it. If it turns out you read her face wrong though, that might go badly. Thought I would ask before trying it out.
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> ” If it turns out you… wrong though, that might go badly…” ——— ZFG muh man, ZFG. Anything that goes badly makes you look like a jerk, and chicks dig
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Supplication. Why should you give a toss that she looks “bored” or even notice it? They’re all “bored” all the time. That is what it is to be a woman. They have no emotional resources of their own and are just waiting to parasite on yours.
Be like my f*ther: “You’re bored? You could always go out and mow the lawn.”
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seriously. one should think of women as beasts of burden first, creatures with needs second or third, if at all. if she needs something, she’ll let you know. otherwise, put her to work. “hey, which of these two shirts do you like?” etc. start small. or not….
some buddies of mine mess around on tinder and weren’t getting much action so I told them to just start asking girls they’re up for helping them fold laundry. sure enough they started getting some hits.
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some buddies of mine mess around on tinder and weren’t getting much action so I told them to just start asking girls they’re up for helping them fold laundry. sure enough they started getting some hits
Brilliant-female social labor interaction game. You must have sisters.
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Better to tease her for looking like a hamster or a monkey.
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great replies all, I will definitely be trying out the suggestions shortly.
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“Oh, is that ‘resting bitch face’?”
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I love the wordsmithing like “plonking your peter”. “Purveying your pud”…”demoing your dong”
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Cuffing your carrot.
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Swinging your sword…wagging your weasel…brandishing your boner
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Or to use a fishing term, ” presentation of the bait means everything . “
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You sound like a master baiter.
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For #4, though I’ve yet to test it out, asking “how normal are you?” sounds great to get things rolling.
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“You look like a crazy hot mess of a trainwreck.”
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“And you look like a jerk.”
“Yep. Gimme yer #.”
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A lot of these types of “qualifier” conversations go something like this for me:
Neo-Nazi Shocktrooper: Do you usually look better than this?
White Baby Doll: (Looking shocked or pissed) IDK
Neo-Nazi Shocktrooper: Honestly, I am just trying to find a woman around here that isn’t a complete dumpster fire…
White Baby Doll: I really don’t know. Everyone always tells me I’m beautiful, but I don’t know who to trust anymore…
Then it’s pretty easy from there. I separate myself from the desperate losers who lie to her and show her she can “trust me” because I will always tell her like it is.
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>> I catch the gaze of a lot of girls at uni, though, so I’m not all that unattractive.
When a guy can’t think of an opening line, but “knows” he is getting checked out a lot… do you really believe him that he gets checked out a lot?
My experience is guys can’t read IOIs well at all… particularly guys that don’t have the training of the proper seducer. Reading girls well comes later on the path.
So in this case, one of the first things I’d do is remind this guy he is probably clueless as to which girls want him, and when/why they do, if at all. Even if he could spit opening lines, even then, he would likely struggle to read girls in these ways in the beginning… and it seems clear he is on the early stones of the path.
This guy being confident he can read girls (and that he gets checked out a lot) is a sign of his overconfidence (and probably his ego keeping him “drunk” and happy).
>> I’m successful at dating and bedding women I meet irl , however usually I am clueless about what to say in the first message to get the chicks interested
Same comments about this guy.
In both cases, I bet those guys are seeing “something.” But they are seeing bluepill success, perhaps, if that. This guy is explicit he can handle the big move, but just need a little help w/ the opening line… the classic tell of a guy that has no real experience.
“I just don’t know what to say?”
He needs much more than an opening line. If he had an opening line (which is irrelevant when you know what you’re doing), it would show him how much else he needs.
If I knew these guys in person, I start by trying to get them to sober up, and forget their “expertise” and take on a proper beginners mind and listen. If I saw that, I would be hopeful for their education. Until then, they are fooling themselves.
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blue pill “success” leads to blue balls or even worse
betabux
shiver
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When a guy can’t think of an opening line, but “knows” he is getting checked out a lot… do you really believe him that he gets checked out a lot?
It’s not difficult to tell if you’re getting checked out or are receiving interest. Girls breaking a smile upon fleeting eye contact with you is a good indication.
>> I’m successful at dating and bedding women I meet irl , however usually I am clueless about what to say in the first message to get the chicks interested
Same comments about this guy.
Believe it or not, I have a similar problem. I can get success once in a while in meatspace — mainly with the hottest girls, for whatever reason — but completely flop if I try to text or call; they always claim to be too busy, if they answer at all.
I chalk it up to girls nowadays having the attention span of a ten year old with ADD, and that in their minds, if what happens with a man is not spontaneous, it’s try-hard on his end.
But IMO it’s a better deal to be more comfortable with IRL game than texting game. The main downside is you have to rely on running into them IRL, but I suspect the quality to effort ratio is much, much higher given what a joke online dating has become.
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“…if I try to text or call; they always claim to be too busy, if they answer at all.”
aside from the obvious reasons you state, girls often do this as a way to screen a guy’s intentions, his steadiness, and his sexual market value. I’ve often had to hit girls up several times over 2-3 months before they finally agree to a date.
if you’re getting action from the hottest girls then it means you’re at the top of the pack, which is good. but they’re likely as intimidated by you as they are intrigued. which makes you a risk. her hamster is going, “what if I’m not good enough for him?! what if he’s psycho?! what if he’s blah blah blah”. alphas are notoriously difficult for girls to read because we are as elusive to them as 10s are for us. they deal with betas on a daily basis, and can read them easily. but how to handle the guy who seems like he could easily do without her…?
the trick is to display interest over an extended period of time. hit her up for a date. if negative or no response, wait a couple weeks then send her something interesting or funny, an article, a video, etc. “thought you might like this”. then disappear for awhile. couple weeks later, “hey I’m looking for someone to play darts with this Friday. you in?” etc. keep it light, aloof, but persistent.
kind of like fishing or tending a garden. you got a bunch of lines in the water. every once in awhile you check the bait on this one. move the line a bit on that one. set the hook on that one. land a throwback on another one. a keeper on this one. you get the picture. it never ends. you can have a girl’s number for a year and hit her up for a drink one day and it’s on.
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50%+ of contacts go nowhere. That is perfectly normal.
>> Believe it or not, I have a similar problem. I can get success once in a while in meatspace — mainly with the hottest girls, for whatever reason — but completely flop if I try to text or call; they always claim to be too busy, if they answer at all.
This… I would explain by saying the girls emotions are as solid and consistent as the breeze. You sound like you can get her attracted, and that sounds real to me, and I believe you. And then… 1 sec passes, as her emotions have moved on. That is normal.
And then you’re back to text game — which is a basic, fundamental skill if you want to have anything other than SDLs.
You use text to start attraction again. Or, if she’s buzzing from seeing you pop up on her phone, then you use text for comfort. And… get her back to IRL as fast as possible.
IRL is the real deal, but text skill is mandatory… unless you have excellent “pull her right now” skills… and don’t care if you see her again.
And I will hat-tip to a guy named StealthPUA in Tokyo, who convinced me pretty quickly on my last trip that “pull her right now” is a very, very big opportunity, and waiting for a date will cause you lose an incredible amount of girls that come thru your life. You might think it’s “text,” but it’s just “time.”
I followed his advice, and two weeks later… I had my first SDL. She asked for my contact info the next morning… when I walked her to the train.
— http://www.daysofgame.com/dates/tyo-sdl-yoga-instructor-1-tokyo/
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>> It’s not difficult to tell if you’re getting checked out or are receiving interest. Girls breaking a smile upon fleeting eye contact with you is a good indication.
Disagree… at least for the kid in question.
If you are very good with women, I would trust your skill here. If you are not (and he is not), he has no idea what women are thinking. A lot of the feminine is masterfully subtle. I bet 1$ that kid is not picking up on that.
For every “correct” judgment, he probably has 50 “unknown unknowns” and has no idea how the women around him are evaluating him.
For more on IOIs, I’d point to Steve Jabba. IOIs are a fetish of his… and he would be the first to say how subtle a girl can be, even when the IOI is very strong indeed.
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PJ, now all he needs is beer and a cooler
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I’m recently back in the game after being in a relationship for a bit but I forgot how ruthless girls are. Made out with a girl, texted her one too many times before our second date because I’m still sorta in ‘relationship text mode’ where you see how the person is even though you don’t really give a shit and I got instantly disqualified. Oops. Probably needed the reminder but it would’ve been nice to get laid first… She was into me and then flip a switch not. Like rollo says “Hypergamy doesn’t care”
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shivanista!
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Ch, your comment about the gym in the first answer raised an eyebrow. I think its time you reveal your regiment.
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Squats
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Concur. Heartiste is right on so many things, but this is not one of them. If you’re overtraining by lifting 5 days a week, you need better nutrition and/or stimulants. Also, if you’re on a traditional proven bodybuilding split IE Mon-Chest Tues-Back Wed-Legs Thu-Shoulders Fri-Arms Sat-Deadlifts how did you overtrain any of those things? They each have a couple days rest before being hit again in any meaningful way. Now if the kid meant he was benching 5 days in a row then yeah it might be problematic. Biggest advice I give to newb trainees is that overtraining is largely a myth, don’t fear it, and the gains will come!
[CH: according to the latest studies, overtraining is real and a man can get all the benefits of lifting on a lot less time in the gym (still have to lift with intensity). read these articles:
http://roguehealthandfitness.com/does-overtraining-exist-or-is-it-an-excuse-for-weak-people/
http://roguehealthandfitness.com/strength-training-nonsense/ ]
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I know that CH has written before about spending too much time in the gym (as opposed to out in the world chatting up girls).
It’s tough getting to the gym 6 days per week – at least when you’re making real money – and still have a social life.
3 – 4 days per week is a pretty good goal, especially when you’re already in shape and need to work on other areas of your life, in my opinion.
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It’s about the intensity in the gym. A balls-to-the-wall 45 minute session will beat out a 60-90 minute routine.
Heck, even a focused 20-minute routine will yield better results. Most guys lollygag in the gym for that 60-90 minutes and it is just a waste of time.
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Great points in both articles CH. I guess I should rephrase my argument- overtraining certainly exists for hard training athletes, HOWEVER in my experience it’s most often used simply as an excuse because a guy is sore/tired/pro-hillary and doesn’t WANT to get after it. Most guys are not hard training athletes. I would say this- of all the men you see in your gym, do they usually look like they need more work, or less? Idk I guess it’s different for everyone, but to finish- I know only a handful of powerlifters personally who claim to train 3 days a week, and dozens of power and bodybuilders personally who hit it 6 days if not every single day. The guys hitting 6x are all stronger and bigger. That said, three days or six as long as white men are hitting the iron and off the couch I’m cool with it.
[CH: age plays a role in this, too. this guy is 23, and at that age recovery is quick. once a man hits his stride in his 30s the body requires more recovery time. so if you can get by with 5 days a week lifting hard and have gas left in the tank, by all means knock yourself out.]
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Like I said brother as long as white men are hitting the steel and giving the mudskins something to fear in the streets I’m cool with whatever plan works for ya. Also, I’m only 29 so I may very well change my tune on this in coming years. Hopefully fucking not though!
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@Russ
Thats basically my split as well. That was a part of why I made the comment in the first place. The way you structure your regiment will allow recovery while allowing you to hit the gym more and burn extra cals.
Also, as mangan states in his article correct nutrition mitigates overtraining. Every time i feel weak in the gym its after a calorie cut , or im sick.
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easiest way to get around the ‘opening line’ roadblock is to open the person standing right next to her, or her chubby friend, or anyone besides her. display your ability to relate, your verbal skills esp., but behave as if she doesn’t exist. she’ll make her interest known to you in short order.
this is probably the most efficient, failsafe way to “open” a girl. you’re creating momentum that she can jump onto, rather than having to jumpstart her self-centered, unappreciative ass into gear.
and, if you genuinely like people, you’re also making other friends. it’s a win-win. this is a businessman’s approach, letting other people do the work for you. making good use of your time, etc. etc. time is money.
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Shitlordette or just Tradwife
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how do you get a bruce campbell chin from lifting? no really, tell me how to get rid of that godawful goatee.
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Go to an orthodontist and see if you have overbite. Fixing it can move your jaw forward and make chin look bigger. If not, plastic surgery helps.
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Ahaha. Thanks buddy. Just joking.
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Is it just me or does the bitch that’s mouthing “Big fucking (something)” look jewish? Many are feminists. Many more are bitches.
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“Donald Trump 2020” solid Tinder opener right there
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That’s how I sign off my emails these days
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To all less-than-alpha men:
This is the best advice you will ever get. It is the royal road to pussy.
Pussy stems from game, which stems from self-confidence, which stems from many things, one of which is physical fitness.
Start working out and getting into physically good shape, and everything else will fall into place. Running is good, but strength training is most important. If you can do nothing else, do strength training. If you cannot access a weight set, push-ups and other calisthenics will do.
Mens sana in corpore sano.
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“If you cannot access a weight set, push-ups and other calisthenics will do”
And if you are time-short:
Chest expander: (two handles and springs or latex cable.
Power twister: yes, one of those springs like a bar that you bend. They come in different strengths, 45 kg, 60kg, 70kg. On youtube you will see guys have DIY made double spring power twisters up to 120kg. The power to bend that must be incredible.
Start with one you can only bend once. Go from there with the reps.
It isn’t deadlifts or squats but these together will give you shoulders, upper back and and upper chest. And also excellent for shoulder stability if you do throwing or fighting sports.
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I agree. I’ll also add this.
When interacting with an attractive girl, follow this simple rule of thumb: Whatever first thought comes to mind as to what you should say/do … throw that away and do something (anything) different.
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George Costanza game.
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“A student at Connecticut’s Sacred Heart University is now on the other side of accusations of wrongdoing after police charged her with filing a false report of rape against two college football players.
In 2016, student Nikki Yovino, 18, told police in Bridgeport, Connecticut, that she was raped in the bathroom of a house where a party was raging. Afterward, Yovino accused two members of the school’s football team of repeatedly raping her that night, the Connecticut Post reported.
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A police affidavit noted that Yovino admitted to lying about the rape.
“She admitted that she made up the allegation of sexual assault against (the football players) because it was the first thing that came to mind and she didn’t want to lose (another male student) as a friend and potential boyfriend. She stated that she believed when (the other male student) heard the allegation it would make him angry and sympathetic to her,” the affidavit said….”
wow.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/23/college-student-accused-football-players-rape-now-charged-lying/
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‘Yovino could face up to five years in prison if convicted of second-degree false reporting of an incident and tampering with or fabricating physical evidence.’
This needs to be made clear to little girls who play with fire…
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Nikki Yovino
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Buns in ovens? Not this one. Only thing inside her is big globs of nigger sperm.
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Looks pretty hot in pic 1, average in pic 2.
Sure it’s the same girl ?
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The work of a Shivlord, or a White Knight?
“This N.C. billboard is angering drivers, who say it is sexist”
I say Shivlord.
-The ad buyer refused to be identified. A White Knight says things to signal virtue.
-The ad buyer has not taken it down (as of this writing). A White Knight would’ve lopped off his balls with a public apologia by now.
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I think it’s still White Knight. Being the “provider” is not a very good sexual strategy in the 21st century. Probably thinks we need to stop men from being “deadbeat dads” in order to get the American family back on track.
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That is shitlord! “Real Men Provide” is the standard line all women want to hear and use (one way street). “Real women appreciate it” is a responsibility many womenz want, or even think they owe. That would make it a two-way street, which for femcunts would be a sign of weakness and giving in to the patriarchy. “What, are we just supposed to stay home and be all barefoot and pregnant, having a warm dinner for our beloved husbands when they return home from work?!” Ummmm….yes.
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*responsibility that many womenz DON’T want
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lately I’m thinking women are just like a pet: if you don’t imprint the right social conditioning on them while they’re still young, then they just go feral and no amount of remedial conditioning can make them relationship-worthy again. and that window of imprintability closes EARLY, like between 18-25, IF there was good parenting.
a sign like this is therefore useless. if she has to be TOLD, then she’s already gone feral. it’s like trying to tell a feral cat, “REAL pet owners provide and REAL cats appreciate it.” good luck with that.
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Dysfunctional women are the result of dysfunctional fathers. What society keeps trying to force down our throats is “stuff”. Children need presence, not presents… and with girls, the object lesson is the key. Even at 10 or 11, girls will understand, “if you weigh 300 lbs. and have 2 babies out of wedlock like your Aunt Cassidy, you’re not going to find a good husband”. You’ll still have to enforce the self-control, because (let’s face it) women of any age have the self-control of a coked-out-squirrel; but it can be done.
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Pick one: patriarchy or failed civilization.
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First line is standard White Knight.
Second line? Shivlord.
Local pussy hat brigade worked up? Good job.
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I bet there are about ten men getting poon right now claiming they paid for tjhat sign.
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It is shitlord as that is how I see it too. He left out the part about making it all happen. That makes a man a shitlord.
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I vote white knight. Sounds like a provider beta who’s butthurt that the women he lavishes his resources on don’t appreciate him. That is, they go spread their legs for alphas who don’t spend a cent on them. Those guys are not “real men” in the sad universe of the white knight.
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“Real men provide… one enormous tea break for stay at home mums”
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I’ve had working women and stay at home mums. Stay at home mums are much nicer to be around. No comparison really. Its the way it was meant to be.
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At least we know he is not socialist it isn’t UKIP? Because it’s said men provide not the state provides. What a great idea having the state providing women it isn’t UKIP?
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Ever notice how, when you tell a certain type of somebody that they should appreciate something, they give it a big meh or resent it even more?
/Sign o’ the end times rape!
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I guess “Real women raise large broods of their man’s beautiful Huwhyte children in return” wouldn’t have fit on the billboard.
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My personal favorite for Tinder remains that one popularized by menaquinone4 (RIP) : “Is your uterus ready to birth my champions?” Now granted, properly backing it up is no beginner stuff.
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VIENNA STATE OPERA BALL TONIGHT
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The Bing homepage today presents this.
Totally off the back of my head, wasn’t there a controversy a few years ago when some wealthy patron ( (((patron))) ) paraded his mutt mistress there?
I hope the Vienna Philharmonic is still all White and all male. If not, let there be a swift purge!
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Can you imagine dancing the night away with a bunch of scantily clad gorgeous WHITE girls courtesy of music being performed by the greatest orchestra in the world? Them Hapsburgs may be Papists, but G0D D@MN they know how to throw party.
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The pictures at Bing seem to be very Euro or northern North America [Great Lakes, Newfoundland, etc].
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White people sure are nice looking.
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CO, I’ve always assumed it as conventional wisdom that the VPO is the “second” best orchestra in the world, behind the Berliner. But I know you have very precise standards in this area– are you committed to the VPO as number one?
Meanwhile, in an erratic humor I have okcupid open in the other window, surveying the offerings in my approximate zip. My god, what wretched refuse. I’ve so far spotted two self-reported late thirties gals with purple hair, a 43 yr old with a nose stud, and a 41 yr old allowing a nog behind her in the photo to lick her shoulder.
Compared to this, a trip to a bookstore full of neckbeards and the homeless is eye bleach for the soul.
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Berlin Philharmonic + Karajan was the best (especially Beethoven)
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CO this is how Europe parties everywhere in high fashion. If it were important to me I would attend some of them. Many are public. You are supposed to dress this way for Balls, Operas and Ballets. You guys still so sure you want to kill this off?
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Have a look at the early recordings BPO + Karajan in the 50s/60s.
checklist:
-Genius for eternity Beethoven
– pure german orchestra. (no women allowed)
– master conductor
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This was the world our parents inherited, and decided to throw it all away. On some level the baby boom generation knows they’ve created a complete monstrosity.
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VPO >>>>>>>>>> BPO.
Viennese Horns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexander Horns.
Roland Berger >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone who ever even dreamed of playing horn for the BPO.
Carlo Maria Giulini >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Herbert von Karajan.
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That used to be my folks country
That was my folks Emperor
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Pictures of nothing but White people as far as the eye can see are like porn to me now. Diversity offends my visual senses, in addition to everything else.
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> “Pictures of nothing but White people as far as the eye can see are like porn to me now.” ——— THIS.
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I wonder if Bill Gates might be a closet Nationalist? He’s been making the rounds on the TV shows lately with a proposal to tax robots to keep them from taking people’s jobs. That sounds very Kek-ish to my ears.
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Meant to reply here: The pictures at Bing seem to be very Euro or northern North America [Great Lakes, Newfoundland, etc].
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It was why I lived in Germany. These wogs have been a massive turd in the punch bowl.
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Awesome sh!tlord kkkommentary on the disaster that was the Rio Carnival: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2946035/rio-carnival-2017-pictures-sao-paulo-police-clashes/
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If I get some free time, then I’ll try to do a side-by-side GIF of the Rio Carnival versus the Vienna Opera Ball.
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That Rio Carnival is like a Bosch painting meets Whore Of Babylon during Nero’s reign.
Some serious satanic let’s-mix-races-and-see-how-the-world-goes-to-hell stuff, right there.
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This is still fairly standard German TV. They show this every year.
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A line I used to use regularly on Match.com- ( and with great success) was:
” Nice hair ..I have a thing for blondes – is it real or fake?”
9/10 they would respond. After meeting once – 100 % rate getting them in the sack.
I met my wife by using the line ” you seem intelligent enough – we should meet”
She says she was at the gym working out when it came through. At first she was so offended by my arrogance she wasn’t going to respond..but curiosity killed that pussy. The rest was history.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/heterosexual-women-orgasm-sex-less-other-demographics-lgbt-lesbian-gay-study-chapman-indiana-a7595181.html
Some interesting science…
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Its gay propaganda
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Probably, but there are plenty of dudes here who pay no attention to the Cl!t whatsoever. In the past, many dudes would laugh & brag about how they didn’t give a d@mn whether the ch!ck got her O’s.
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You are right. This is why it is effective propaganda. I’m a true believer in the big O. Nothing induces willing obedience better.
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Alpha ==> O
Mangina ==> …
I agree with Carlos, eliciting Os early on gives you all manner of hand.
As for the article’s advice:
More oral sex (servicing the cocklord well generally receives approval)
Longer lasting sex
Higher relationship satisfaction
Asking for what you want in bed (‘FM Harder!!!’)
Praising your partner for what they do in bed
Calling or emailing “to tease about doing something sexual” – presumably a text or Snapchat works too
Wearing sexy lingerie
Trying new sexual positions
Anal stimulation
Acting out fantasies
Incorporating “sexy talk”
Expressing love during sex (yada, yada, whatevs…)
What’s interesting is, hearing a ‘man’ say “let’s smash patriarchy!” is not on this list…hmmm…I wonder why?
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Sure, that’s why they call it lesbian bed death.
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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Me: You look more like Megan Fox every day.
She: [Preen]
Me: Yeah, she’s really letting herself go.
She: [thinks it over…] HEYYY!!!
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Devils Advocate here and stating the bleeding obvious.
Unless you have some killer photos, look good AND have solid game, online dating sites will be fraught with frustration and disappointment.
For one thing, women on online dating are usually outnumbered by men by a ratio of at LEAST 2 : 1
Also, the hamstering and entitlement that women undergo on these sites is astronomical.
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This will indeed get women to chase you. I am going to use work as an example, because you have to be more cautious there than you normaly would be.
All the desirable women at work get made fun of by me. All the other dudes are either kissing their ass or trying hard to say smart or funny shit. I just chip away at their sense of self-importance and never encourage them in any way. Sometimes I am grumpy with them, sometimes I laugh at their stupid ass. A lot of this isn’t even faked anyway to begin with. Some of is it mean/dominant teasing because it gets me off to fuck with their little dumb heads. And they play plenty of head games themselves. It’s pretty fucked up how they do this actually.
The hottest one tonight got pissed at me, because she keeps telling her girlfriend that she wants to fuck me within earshot. Then she calls me dumb or something like that when I ignore her. I know she does want to fuck me already anyway. She keeps showing her shit off to me, but she is the top bitch and she is not the sweetest woman, so her methods piss me off anyway.
Today she tried to plow her boobs into my back (in front of everyone of course), but was standing behind me to make it look like an accident for whatever reason. I made sure it didn’t happen, because, even though she is being playful and sexual, this is also a mind game with her. I didn’t take the bait and boy now is she pissed. I can’t even have a normal conversation with her, but it’s kind of funny in way how she is acting. Of course her pride is hurt and she is running around getting everyone she can pissed at me, but she doesn’t realize that she won’t see me giving into that kind of peer pressure. Of course dudes may even try to beat my ass if it gets out of hand, but it seems like a dominance play. I am sure she is going to be thinking about me for a long time now.
What pisses me off about her is that she can’t communicate like an adult. Something is seriously fucked up with her head. She wants everything on her terms as if the entire world is her d@ddy granting her every wish. If I do end up fucking her, I doubt I will ever be nice to her. She is extremely sexy, but her methods disgust me.
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Sounds like a dangerous situation. I’d try to switch jobs or departments ASAP.
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> “Sounds like a dangerous situation.” ——— Up the ante. Tell her to get off her b!rth control, effective immediately. And that she is not to see any other men, effective immediately.
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Every office has a bitch that flirts with every guy. It’s just a game to them, and all the betas lap it up. As soon as I see that dynamic I make sure to ignore and ridicule them… which drives them mad and is great fun for me.
I’ve seen a few people fired because of the drama. That’s why co-workers are off limits unless I’m about to quit anyway.
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thats called sexual harrassment make some loot
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This extremely sexy boss who pushes her boobs into you, shows off, and wants to fuck so you bad that she announces it out loud in the office and now the whole office politics dynamic is being upended because she is so frustrated that you’re withholding that D and she is such a vixen that she can rally the betas to give you a beating…Also she’s so in need of your D that she can’t even hold a normal conversation anymore. Does she also drop to her knees and flick her clit in front of everyone after you walk by?
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She isn’t the boss, she is the hottest bitch by far though. She’s a 10. But speaking of boss, even his bitch said what’s up. That never happens.
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All the guys were high fiving and fist bumping me today when I walked in. The women were all giving me eyes and saying what’s up. She was acting sweet to me today and babying me. Also throwing me little sexual comments for no reason. Shit is funny. Everyone had a good time today.
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So this 10 is throwing you sexual comments and guys are high fiving you all day because everyone thinks you fucked the 10 who is now openly stating she wants that D to anyone who will listen. But for you it’s just funny to have a 10 make constant sexual comments about you. It’s just funny when a 10 just floods her panties over you. Funny stuff.
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Yeah it is funny. Damn funny, because I don’t give a shit about her. I don’t like her. I don’t really want to get involved with her. She is a piece of shit. She comes to work high and drunk sometimes. She is a typical brainless millennial bitch.
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ex can’t get me out her head
says she doing so good
leaving my house says me and ex ex gonna die
why the fuck we got to die if u so happy
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guess can only game so long before some bitch finally kills ya
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she learned this time didn’t say a name last time she said a name was gonna kill me a swat team hit the dudes house ten minutes later he he he
i didn’t call no one
and how the fuck was it literally ten minutes later
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but i think i’m reverse aging my dick was apparently hard three times while sleeping hahahahaha
ex ex said she was scared i could of put her eye out rofl
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and what is up with her stalking my dick when im sleeping lol
yea im still not fucking her getting close to though prob
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collecting souls is no joke
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You need to start collecting BUNZ -> OVENZES.
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i aint met one chick on match
i can meet all i want through former chicks though
but yea not one bitch on match
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like i said before easier to have other bitches bring you bitches
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then also prequalified
preselected
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Apart from the cogent thoughts expressed already in relation to this topic, the obvious unasked question is “Where can I find that awesome nagging gif?”
It works on so many levels.
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i guess really good job to meet chicks taxi driver
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I have an instant date last sunday with a cute smart chinese girl (zither playing).
On tuesday i text her the classic line : ” are you always so nice with new people ?” but she never respond.
Today morning i just send the line “you’re everything I thought I never wanted in a girl” and she respond to me few hours later : ” Really? tell me what your “everything” is ?”
Any idea of what i should reply?
And thx the CH for the advice.
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Gookettes L0VE to be teased about being g00kettes. For a brief txt back to her, you want to go with “I never though I’d be so attracted to a chick with a cash register for a soul.”
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Then in person, you need to tease her relentless about growing up in a Tiger Mom household: “China guhr no getta B pruss in Cacurus. Onry A in Cacurus. B pruss for white guhrs. China guhr musta maintain pelfect 4.0 glade point avelage. Shame, shame, shame on china guhr. Bling glate dishonol to ancestols. Ancestols clying in heaven. China guhr getta B pruss on Cacurus exam??? Glate, glate dishonol and shame.”
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Study the he11 out of Eddie Murphy’s classic riff, and memorize as much of it as possible:
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And be txting her stuff like, “Don’t be eatin’ no nasty g00k sh!t like garlic & onions & monosodium glutamate – my women are required to smell like angels for me.”
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“Any idea of what i should reply?”
“someone who’s good at cooking and folding laundry”
might blow it out of the water, but hey, why not? the overachieving Asian girls hugely overestimate their value in the sexually marketplace, because of betas. might as well get it out of the way early that you’re doing her a giant favor by dating down and rescuing her from the rice paddies.
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PJ, he can hit the asian laundry angle HARD.
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* folding laundry
* cash register for soul
* maintaining perfect 4.0 GPA to please Tiger Mom
* stinking of garlic & onions & monosodium glutamate
* Eddie Murphy “round eyes” motion
You throw out some easy-going negs like that on your date and she’ll be pushing out little HAPA abominations for you in 9 m0nths.
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most asian girls I’ve met have a pretty good sense of humor, long as you don’t COMPLETELY disrespect them. there’s some potential in the asian laundry angle.
they’re also usually very concerned about their appearance. so jokingly poking fun at the quality of her eyebrow-plucking, mani-pedi appearance, that little extra chub around the waist, the belt that doesn’t go with the outfit, etc., can potentially open her up her thighs like a fortune cookie.
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Dam CO, you beat me to the smelling like garlic.
He can reply back, saying he’s a vampire and scared that her garlic odor will be too much for him
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Getting back to “someone who’s good at cooking and folding laundry” – I’d shorten it to just “someone who’s good at folding laundry” – because g00k food is so disgusting [and stinks so horribly].
Combining it as “someone who’s good at folding laundry and has a cash register for a soul” is probably wasting too many good lines at once and is maybe too therm0nukular.
Plus you always need to hold back some good lines for future use – you never want to shoot your w@d all at once.
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And instead of using “LOL”, use “ROR”
She’ll ask what that is and why you used it. Then shiv away.
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Outstanding. SHE: “What is ROR’ed?” YOU: “Raughed out Roud.”
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that’s awesome.
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Also, on your vampire idea, see whether you can coalesce it with CH’s vampire riff from the other day [“Anti-Game”, Feb 23]. Something about “We Vampires of the Patriarchy ain’t too keen on all that garlic y’all put in y’all’s food.”
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SHE: “Well, to be honest, I think I might be more of a werewolf kinduva gal.”
YOU: “Nah, werewolves are way too downmarket for a chick like you with a cash register for a soul.”
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Chink eyes, black hair, golden skin and a sweet body crawling on my bed. And I’ll let you do my math homework.
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Damn she thinks like a lawyer.
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doesn t work i get no respond to my vampire story. shiiiit… it s a flake.
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http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/court-grants-judicial-watch-request-orders-top-obama-doj-official-preserve-podesta-email-communications/?utm_medium=display&utm_source=sharethrough&utm_campaign=20170203_Judicial-31111_sharethrough&utm_content=Judicial-31111
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The noose is tightening.
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“PS Cut your gym time to three days per week.”
Thank you, CH.
Good men don’t let men run bro splits.
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^^^^^^^^^ gay jew pretending to be Christian
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So..
After centuries of identifying Christianity as the mortar holding together Europeans and seeking to atomize them through godless leftism, we’ve decided to change course and encourage the goyim to go back to Christ.
God have mercy on you, Corvo,
You’re an idiot.
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You are going to need a strong recovery supplement.
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Email 1 sounds suspicious.
What type of guy goes to a site mostly frequented by guys and says he has a big c_ck ?
Covered email 2 in a response, ‘shiv’ is inadvisable all around.
As for betas having to try less hard back in the good old days (???), that sounds like a lot of rose-colored glassery to me.
I’m sure the girls found you too old, sh0rt, fug, poor or b@ld back in the 50’s also, they just didn’t tell you to your face.
Online ‘dating’ ?
Really ?
Show me 1 site that isn’t 99% fakes.
Talkin’ ’bout attractive profiles. duh.
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“Email 1 sounds suspicious.
What type of guy goes to a site mostly frequented by guys and says he has a big c_ck ?”
I’m pretty confident that email #1 is safetyspaceplaypen.
That part gave it away.
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It takes a thief to catch a thief… kekekekekekek
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Pattern recognition certainly helps.
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Is that what you crazy fey kids are calling it nowadays?
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Also
“Getting looks” is just typical incel ego-assuaging bs.
He doesn’t know what female interest looks like.
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Myself, I like to use ‘shivette’; a pretty pretense with understated brutality.
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This is my strategy on Tinder: I have three pics, one hiking in the mountains, one with no shirt, one with a suit on. In my profile I just list my height and weight and no other info. When I get a match, I don’t bother with trying to be clever, I just write “Hi.” If they respond, I check out their profile in more detail, and if it all looks good I immediately ask them to meet, “Let’s meet tomorrow.” I get a lot of “Maybe. What did you have in mind” type of replies to that. I tell them something like “A walk in the park.” They usually ask a few more questions about what we’ll be doing, and then agree to meet. I don’t give them my phone number or ask for theirs (I don’t even use my real name on my Tinder profile). My strategy involves little to no clever talk, just being direct about what I want. It works. I get a lot of pussy from that app.
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Re: shirts or lack thereof online.
The original H0torN0t site was, for the most part, a b00b- and ab competition for college students or younger.
Which was reflected very clearly in the scores.
IIRC, my best scores were 6.5 fully dressed, 9.3 shirtless.
That site has changed very dramatically.
Anywhere you go (online), women will claim to abhor shirtless pics, yet they’re the ones getting 95% of the drool.
Don’t listen to what they say, watch what (and whom) they do.
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Good strategy. Was thinking of using Tinder again, but just hate that you need a faceborg account to use it. I cannot stand faceborg but might just bite the bullet and get one going this weekend.
I’m sure there’s gotta be a few decent tinerellas out here in my neck of the woods.
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so nobody else had a chick try to kill them yet
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I was in a year long relationship with a BPD mafia princess.
Ended nasty. She claimed that I owed her $500 (money that I didn’t ask for but she gave me as a gift). I was ready to leave town and fall off the face of the earth because I was sure that she was going to try to have me murdered.
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i mean actually try like with a knife
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^^^^^^^ self described gay jew pretending to be Christian, pretending to be straight
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This might come as a surprise (but I guess everything astounds a moron)
But most gay men have had flings with females.
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Bitch.
https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2017/02/22/teen-charged-with-lying-about-being-raped-by-college-football-players/amp/
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The Uni of Michigan releases every month a survey on the expectations of Americans about the future and how present situation is. I quote:
““The Michigan report highlighted extreme partisan divergence in the results. The overall expectations index was at 86.5, up from 76.8 in October pre-election. For Democrats, the expectations index was 55.5, for Republicans 120.1, and for independents 89.2. The Republican and Democrat results were extraordinary on both sides. In the over sixty-year history of the survey, the range for the expectations index for all respondents has been 44.2 to 108.6. In the next year 66% of Democratic respondents said they expect a recession versus only 11% of Republicans ” ”
Democrats are literally hallucinating. They just left this World.
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OT: This bitch has entered DEFCON 2 in terms of totally losing it and quickly approaching DEFCON 1:
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The female counterpart to a shitlord is a “shitwench.”
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the more important is the interior of the person not the visual things (it’s not for always )
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