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A Reader Explains What Life Is Like With Low Testosterone

March 19, 2017 by CH

Reader _svd comments about the changes in his life after a tumor caused his T to crash.

I’m a guy who’ve been born with high T, got a benign tumor that plummeted my levels of both T AND E at my late teens, and only found out about it and fixed it 15 years latter.

Handsome, nice body, smart, charismatic, good sense of humor. High-earner from early 20s. Work 4 hours a day. Eastern European (so, tough upbringing).

From the list above, everything re work ethics does not apply to me – always was “get the shit done” kind of guy. Good high-flying career in small high-value businesses with no corporate BS. Never was afraid of applying or receiving violence (but then I’m EE). I’ve also got through STEM with no problems. Hate ballbusters and feminists.

That’s what 100% true:
* no sex attraction. At all. To the point of complete celibacy for years – no interest in girls. Function was there, and very decent (last for long, recharge fast, though enjoyed the foreplay more than actual sex), but quick fap felt better to release pressure. And that’s what sex was about: releasing pressure. Started dating out of sense of loneliness. Women had to initiate sex when she wanted it (they usually did, as on the outside I’m Mr. Right from romance novels).
* total blindness toward any signals from women. They just don’t register.
* no interest toward team sport. I love boxing though, and ran daily sparrings for a decade. No problem with being competitive or dominant in work setting.
* never owned a car (but you don’t really need one in Europe). Always was irrelevant to cars.
* good erection required fetish. Mine was D/s on D side.
* facial features softened (and started changing back surprisingly fast with T levels restored). No facial hairs at 30 (again, fixed with T – although it was convenient). No problem with nose, ears or other body parts.

One more: depression as a norm of life. Suicide intentions for years. That fueled passive attitude toward the world and may have been seen like weakness.

Ask questions if interested.

Other effects of low T on a nation’s men:

  • leftist politics
  • vocal fry
  • uptalk
  • esssra klein
  • manboobs
  • john scalzi
  • beta orbiting
  • grinding incel
  • male feminists
  • experimental homosexuality
  • bad taste in, well, everything
  • androgyny in look and attitude
  • cuckoldry and miscegenation
  • marathon running
  • carbface
  • interracial adoption
  • anti-trumpism
  • open borders
  • antifa
  • vidgya gaming-induced deep vein thrombosis
  • protruding nipples (very disrespectful)
  • anal play and anal play accessories
  • math class is hard
  • intersectionality
  • shia lapoofter
  • fake news
  • NPR
  • tranny “rights”
  • butt-kicking babes
  • equalism
  • haven monahan (and other fake rape fantasies)
  • patton oswalt
  • talmudic sophistry
  • barack obama
  • hypocrisy
  • disloyalty
  • snark
  • censorship
  • literal bending over backwards for invading hordes of higher fertility ingrates
  • social justice posturing
  • “toxic masculinity” (the irony)

As you can see, chronically low T on both the individual and societal level is almost entirely downside. Bullying decreases. Maybe you could call that an upside. I wouldn’t.

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  1. on March 19, 2017 at 9:55 pm theredpillquarterback

    To nitpick: it’s very possible to have normal T levels but not successful with women. Example, your T levels alone aren’t going to get you a high paying job, which is mandatory in dating for men over age of 23ish.

    Also, increasing your T levels ain’t gonna make you taller. And there’s an obvious and increasing fetishization of tall men.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 12:19 am Heinrich

      If you have a normal (healthy) level of T it is impossible not to be good with women.
      Cultural Marxism is set to neuter men. The Zio-Matrix must be destroyed.

      God bless all free minds!

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 3:25 am Ponce du Lion

      Hey Heartiste readers here is a mandatory read (by doctor Thiel as quoted in Racial Decay by Octavius Beale):

      “There is just one thing more to add : unreasonable demands for exaggerated “rights ” of women will always find a limit in the fact that the majority of men will constantly prefer for wives those who do not claim such rights, but who rather seek their happiness in cultivating and developing their specially feminine virtues and attributes, apart from any aim at equality with men. These attributes will also therefore be preferably inherited, whilst the extreme tendencies of the women’s rights movement will usually not come into heredity, but will constantly tend to die out. Notwithstanding, should woman-rule —contrary to all expectations— become so strong in any single State that it will be able to enforce all its demands, even the most extreme, that result could only be possible where the men are completely
      degenerated. Such a nation would soon be supplanted and dissolved by
      healthier peoples, who might, perhaps, stand on a lower scale of culture.”

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 3:34 am Ponce du Lion

      Hey Heartiste readers here is a mandatory read(by doctor Thiel as quoted in Racial Decay by Octavius Beale):

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 3:47 am Ponce du Lion

      Hey readers here is a mandatory read(by doctor Thiel as quoted in Racial Decay by Octavius Beale in 1908):
      “There is just one thing more to add : unreasonable demands for exaggerated “rights ” of women will always find a limit in the fact that the majority of men will constantly prefer for wives those who do not claim such rights, but who rather seek their happiness in cultivating and developing their specially feminine virtues and attributes, apart from any aim at equality with men. These attributes will also therefore be preferably inherited, whilst the extreme tendencies of the women’s rights movement will usually not come into heredity, but will constantly tend to die out. Notwithstanding, should woman-rule —contrary to all expectations— become so strong in any single State that it will be able to enforce all its demands, even the most extreme, that result could only be possible where the men are completely
      degenerated. Such a nation would soon be supplanted and dissolved by
      healthier peoples, who might, perhaps, stand on a lower scale of culture.”

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:32 am Reb

        Sharia Law

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 6:45 am __svd

      I was successful with women, in a way. I just didn’t want to fuck them. I dated a few, and stopped at the moment when they were ready to put out (as doing though in my culture means there’s at least basic commitment expected from a man).

      That really messed with their heads, esp. with my wife’s – she developed severe body anxiety, although being slim HB8. Her is the reason why I started to look out what can be done with this and found my prolactinoma.

      But she’s not happy about the change. I was not sexual, but extremely loyal (not a pushover, just a guy who goes back to family on Friday evening when everyone else goes to pub). Now sex is great, but I clearly started to have interests outside of family and the job, the only things I’ve been interested at before, and command a lot of female attention. This makes her extremely anxious and afraid about the future of our marriage. She’s afraid I’ll develop some needs or wants that she’ll be unable to meet. Or that I’ll switch to “sewing the wild oats” mode because I missed that in my 20s (we are both in low single digits).

      This, in turn, makes me sad: “are you telling me you liked me more when I was depressed and suicidal because whatever interest in life I had was directed solely towards you?”

      Women are extremely meta-egoistical. She will pander to your every need, but only to grab as much of your attention as possible.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:07 pm Tarl

        If I didn’t already know I had low T (a problem I have since cured) this post would have rung all my alarm bells. From my low T years, can confirm:
        * No sex attraction
        * I attracted women but didn’t really want to fuck them
        * Function was there, but quick fap felt better
        * Total blindness toward any signals from women
        * No interest in team sports (including watching them), did do karate
        * Competitive/dominant in work setting
        * Owned a car but didn’t “care” about them
        * Good erection required fetish.
        * Depressed, anxious as a norm of life
        Check, check, check, check.

        The thing that really angers me is that all these symptoms were there and SHOULD have been correctly diagnosed years before they were, but Western doctors simply don’t give a shit about low T. My regular docs were completely dismissive; I had to go to a specialist to get correctly diagnosed and get TRT.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 7:35 am wolfie65

      QB – Tall man better see antelope over tall grass – good provider.
      They also make her feel like daddy did when she was 5 – VERY important!!!
      But don’t tell ’em that on this blog, they MUST believe ‘game;’ is the Silver Bu11et.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 7:50 am IMGrody

        Im really starting to wonder about all of that. Once you check off all the boxes: tall, good looking, basic social skills and reading, decent income, nice car, social status, basic compotence in the masculine sphere (hunting, repair, lifting heavy stuff)… how much “game” is there actually left?

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 8:48 am tomjones

        Here is your fetish for height, wolfie:

        http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/dharmendra-singh-meet-indias-tallest-5765071

        8ft 1 in frame, can’t find a wife…
        “I have trouble even walking”

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:29 am Random Guy

        Yeah but aren’t social skills and competence in the masculine sphere pretty much the definition of “game” when you get down to it?

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:39 am wolfie65

        Tom – Congrats, you’ve found – in good ole Internet fashion – the ONE circus freak exception to the Rule That Rules All Rules.

        Random – Actually, no.
        ‘Game’, as defined by the PUA ‘community’ (…..) is more like a ‘fake it till you make it’ sort of thing.
        ‘Fake’ being the key word.
        Actual, real life social skills and competence are something different.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:04 am Greg Eliot

        As far as the height thing goes, beyond a certain stature, women often balk… I believe that line is somewhere around 6′ 4″, give or take.

        So putting forth an 8′ freak of nature who can’t get laid as “proof” that the bias towards tall men for many women is false is, well… false.

        Being 6’0 to 6’4″ is definitely an advantage, all other things being equal.

        And DUH!

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:07 am Reb

        If you mean dropping negs without any other verifiable social skills to back it up with, then yeah. That not game though.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:10 am Reb

        That can’t be true GE. NBA players, hello? Wilt the Stilt? Dominique Wilkins?

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:35 am Jolly Jaded Jurist

        The essence of learning game is NOT “fake it ’til you make it”, but “own it ’til you pwn it”

        Incel puahaters “fake” masculinity; budding beta-bashers own it.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:42 am Greg Eliot

        That can’t be true GE. NBA players, hello? Wilt the Stilt? Dominique Wilkins?

        Famous sportsmen with money to burn aren’t your normal 7′ guys…

        … and what mostly negro women will bang in a one-night-stand is not what we’re talking about…

        I’m talking about what women will actively seek to date and establish an LTR with.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 12:23 pm Quaid

        Approaching is the silver bull1t … all other factors simply buy you some time in which to apply charisma. Don’t agree? Good – more for me – I’m rich, amazing looking, sharply dressed and I can charm the pants off chicks … wimps like Wolfie can clutch your wet blankets and stop blocking chicks view of me

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:25 pm melmoth

        Dominique Wilkins was not a seven footer.

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  2. on March 19, 2017 at 10:15 pm Sigma K

    I have Psoriatic Arthritis which is nearly identical to Rheumatoid Arthritis. Low-t is a side effect unfortunately.

    Auto immune issues exacerbate low-t. It is part of the reason so many manlets are low-t is because of horrible vegan/high soy/junk food diets. It is sort of cart-horse though as far as what causes what. The PA/RA causing low-t or low-t causing the autoimmune issue. My guess is they exacerbate each other.

    Me, I was poisoned 20 years which nearly killed me and set off my PA. I am now almost 45.

    I am tired a lot and have trouble sleeping because of it.

    To remedy I eat cleaner than anyone I know.

    Paleo-ish but I add potatoes and some sugar. I drink raw milk and literally no processed foods. Grass fed meats, wild caught fish, organic everything that needs to be (somethings do not matter) etc…

    It helps but what really kicks the blues is lifting. Heavy as I can.

    Because my hands are affected the worst I need lifting straps and my back is also in pain a lot. So anything above 295lbs on my dead lift I have to strap in. I can’t squat all that well because of mobility but for a while I was repping out 225.

    Bench is 200lbs. I am 6’1″ and 185 lbs.

    That being said, weights and working out fasted for 20 hours really kicks up the T. Helps a lot. But I am seriously thinking about T replacement.

    So yes, it is very true about lifting and eating well. It really truly matters. Junk food is literally killing society.

    As far as sex drive… I have no issues pulling girls. None. And thanks to CH my life has gotten easier in the vagina front.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 10:43 am Hitfan

      I have PA as well. Was in horrible pain for a good 10 years of my life. Pain shows up in weird unexpected places — your tailbone and even your nervous system felt uncomfortable. My rheumatologist put me on Remicade and I feel pretty good ever since — save for the occasional pain flareup that might show itself in an elbow or finger.

      I can relate to not being able to really lift heavy on the deadlift — my hands were constantly in pain and my fingers curled up. I switched to doing leg presses at the gym, but I missed being able to do the deadlifts at home.

      I tried all kinds of weird diets — even doing the extreme Panago diet, but nothing worked. Only Remicade has given me a semblance of feeling normal. If you are on a healthcare plan, this drug is really worth it.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:51 am Hitfan

        After being on this medication for a few days, I was soon deadlifting 400+ pounds — weight that I had not lifted in years prior.

        It was glorious.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 12:50 pm Sigma K

        I use Enbrel when I need to. It is not a weekly thing for me. Maybe 1-2 x per month. Diet really helps keeping me from needing it every week.

        How is Remicade administered? Enbrel is a shot, which I hate.

        My sympotoms are slowly getting better. I am chelating mercury which is a slow process. Could take years, but I am mercury toxic and I think a little lead as well. Once I complete the chelating I am hoping to never have to use anything.

        Congrats on the 400lbs. That is glorious. My best lift is 360 which was at the time 2X body weight. Which I am happy with.

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  3. on March 19, 2017 at 10:18 pm padawan125

    Long time reader and would like some advice since I may be in a similar boat as the poster:
    My T levels are ‘normal’ 500s-700s and the list above doesn’t really describe me since finding this site 5 years ago. But sperm count is low (about 1/3 of desired count). My urologist says I may need to pursue some additional avenues to get my wife pregnant (intrauterine insemination), etc. Could my docs be missing something? Anyone know of any useful resources? Other remedies/treatments?

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    • on March 19, 2017 at 10:20 pm Sigma K

      Nose around here for diet advice. They really know what they are talking about.

      https://www.westonaprice.org

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 8:31 am Corvo

        http://roguehealthandfitness.com

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 1:46 am bolg

      “… But sperm count is low (about 1/3 of desired count). My urologist says I may need to pursue some additional avenues to get my wife pregnant (intrauterine insemination), etc…”

      Here is the magic bullet:

      From “The cure for all diseases” by Hulda Clark”

      “Men should add daily zinc and arginine (60 mg. and 450 mg, respectively) to their diets. Both men and women should add vitamin E (200 mg.), a
      prenatal multivitamin and multimineral tablet, eat freshly grown
      vegetables for folic acid, and add vitamin C (at least a gram
      daily, see Sources). No other supplements!”

      Zync is for s-count, E is for mobility. L-arginine, zync, vit-E and vit-C are cheap. Eat red meat, vegetables and eggs, cut processed shit out of your diet.

      Stay away from doctors and keep your woman away from “fertility treatments”.

      Take tribulus terrestris to kickstart/boost testosterone production if you think you need it, even if you don’t need it it won’t hurt. It also helps while lifting.

      Sperm regenerates every 3 months.

      A link to the book:

      http://drhuldaclark.curehelp.com/download-the-cure-diseases-here/

      Fill her up, brother.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:43 am Captain Obvious

        That zinc thing has been a subject of an enormous amount of study recently. Go to j00tube and search for things like “Zinc Sperm Flash” or “Zinc Sperm Spark”.

        Bright flash of light marks incredible moment life begins when sperm meets egg http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3424785/posts

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 1:13 pm bolg

        may sound off topic, but it’s not. i feel at home here. thanks.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 1:56 am bolg

      posted a link for you. hope it gets out of mod hell soon enough

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 3:42 am Ponce du Lion

      Lost subcutaneous fat, that in men is the tissue that more estrogen makes. Aromatase knockout mice are more fertile.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 7:23 am tomjones

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:14 am Reb

        Where is it good to dance in Paris? That’s your opener right there.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 9:07 am Corvo

      Padawan — No, I don’t know of any specific remedies or treatments for that, but I’d take the “diagnosis” with a grain of salt and not let it get to you. If you and your wife aren’t already tracking her ovulation, try that.

      There’s supposedly millions of those little dudes in every batch so ~300,000 still should be plenty to get the job done. Also, try to eliminate plastics and any BPA-tainted food (a lot of canned food has that issue) from coming anywhere near your food, I suspect that has all sort of bad stuff that can mess up your system.

      In terms of diet generally, I say go with a diet high in fats and proteins (with veggies of course) and low in carbs.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 9:21 am Greg Eliot

      Abstain for a week… two weeks even better… then REALLY give it to her good and hard, doggie-style… sons will be forthcoming.

      /Not kidding rape!

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 11:11 am Jolly Jaded Jurist

        Abstain for a week? So you can produce clumpy globs of yellow goop instead of bright white spritzes of spry swimmers?

        Doesn’t pass the smell test, gross pun intended.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 9:21 am hans

      Start regularly ingesting Omega-3 fatty acids, easiest with fish-oil pills.
      This will improve “prostate function” quickly and very noticeably, when you have been on the “low quantity” side.

      Start wearing boxers instead of briefs.That ballsack isn´t ribbed for her pleasure but for “their” cooling. Fücking give them a chance.

      Also rigorously banish all estrogen mimicking plastics from your life, google it.

      But usually the most important factor is HER fertility.
      If she´s 30+, you´re fücked.
      Get prepared for a couple of “natural abortions”, if you actually get to knock that shit up. And be happy you dodged raising a ´tard.

      Most likely you´re just too genetically similar to your spouse.
      As she fell for you while high on anti-baby pill estrogen, that puts females into an artificial pregnancy and makes her olfactory sense very attracted to similar genetics.
      Great for baby care, NOT so good for trying to MAKE babies with.

      Oh yeah, and good luck trying to squeeze these anti-PC infos out of the feminista doctors. Count yourself lucky if you even get one of them out, usually the ball cooling one. As it´s the most embarrassing for the male.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:37 am Corvo

        “If she’s 30+ you’re fucked”

        I can say from personal experience that a 30+ can still be dangerously fertile.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 9:29 am PA

      Guaranteed knocking-up only happens under one of two circumstances: she’s a teenager or she’s drunk. Can’t do much about the former so try the latter.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 9:30 am PA

      Guaranteed knocking-up only happens under one of two circumstances: she’s a teenager or she’s drunk. Can’t do much about the former so try the latter.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:17 am Reb

        Double posts getting through now? WTF is this?

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:25 am Captain Obvious

        PA, no one can seem to prove this scientifically [apparently it’s very difficult to qualify & quantify in clinical double-blind scenarios – I’ve talked to world class experts about it], but my gut instinct is that Stress is simply horrible for fertility [and also for successfully carrying the pr3gnancy a full 9+ months to a l!ve b!rth].

        If strolling around barefooted with some dandelions in her hair and sipping on a nice glass of chardonnay can help relieve your w0man of some of her worries, and help to get her in a b@by-making frame of mind, then let her enjoy herself.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:28 am Captain Obvious

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 9:34 am Captain Obvious

      1) Get your total body fat percentage measured with a modern technique such as Whole Body Plethysmography [Bod Pod], or with an older technique, such as Hydrostatic Weighing [in a water tank]. Then work your ass off to lose the manboobs. And go back every six months or so to keep an eye on your TBF %.

      And get some kind of quality cardio EVERY SINGLE DAY [stair-climbing, swimming, crew (if you can find a boat club to join), carpentry, gardening/small-scale-farming, light-forestry/brush-clearing/wood-chopping, etc]. You want your entire body to be sore when you go to bed at night.

      [NOTE: More on dangerous cardio in 3) below.]

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:35 am Captain Obvious

        2) The hotter the temperature of your ‘nads, the fewer sp3rm will survive. That’s why your ‘nads hang down beneath your gut – to keep them at a temperature below 98.6F. So things like underwear “briefs”, which hug your ‘nads up close to your body, are terrible for your sp3rm count. Some of the things you need to be religious about:

        2A) Switch from underwear “briefs” to “boxers” [or even no underwear whatsoever, if you can deal with the chafing and the ‘nad bouncing].

        2B) Lose all of your tight-fighting jeans made of heavy cotton, and switch to wearing only very loose-fitting trousers made of light air-breathing fabrics.

        2C) Never place a “hot” computer “laptop” in your lap. The “laptop” stays on the table top, and your legs and your ‘nads stay down below with the table top protecting them from the heat of the laptop.

        2D) Never carry “hot” iPhags in your pocket.

        Etc etc etc.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:36 am Captain Obvious

        3) HUGE WARNING HERE: If your ‘nads are dangling free all day, either in boxers, or without underwear altogether, then you have to be very careful to avoid the kinds of athletic motions which would induce ‘nad knots [an extremely painful and dangerous condition which would likely require your urologist’s intervention to un-tangle]. Fear of ‘Nad knots is one of the reasons that athletes & sporty-types tend to wear jock straps, but of course a jock strap heats your ‘nads back up and k!lls all your sp3rm.

        So avoid any activity which would require you to wear a jock strap: Basketball, handball, racketball, tennis, flag-football, etc etc etc, and of course an ABSOLUTE BAN ON ANY BICYCLE RIDING – STATIONARY OR ASPHALT OR OFF-ROAD [a bicycle seat is just horrible for your entire urinary tract – your ‘nads, your urethra, your prostate – the whole nine yards].

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:37 am Captain Obvious

        4) I hate to say this [because it’s not going to be a popular opinion chez Le Chateau], but the more ej@culations you achieve, the more frequently your ‘nads are forced to make new sp3rm, and the newer the sp3rm is, the more virulent it is. It’s well known epidemiologically that the more s3x a man has, the more fertile he becomes. So if your w!fe’s vag is too sensitive for s3x every day [many women are so sensitive that they can only have s3x every 2nd or 3rd or 4th day], then she needs to “milk” you on a regular basis, to force new young virile sperm to be made.

        If you get out towards a week or more without a s3x, then it’s possible that all of your “swimmers” are already dead in the water – they had drowned in your ‘nads three or four days prior to ej@culation.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:42 am wolfie65

        Gotta keep things moving – clogged pipes are BAD !

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:44 am Corvo

        Just spit-balling some more ideas …

        I remember reading somewhere that there is some science behind that old “absence makes the heart grow fonder” saying. Something to do with physical separation from a female increases a man’s libido (and possibly sperm count, I don’t know) next time he sees her.

        Might not be a bad idea for you to head out for a long weekend hunting or fishing or whatever and then bang her when you get back. Not to mention, stress itself has negative health consequences so you’d be killing two birds with one stone by doing something relaxing.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:52 am Captain Obvious

        5) Within the last ten years or so, there have been some very rigorous studies which have proved that a woman can only become pregnant if you ej@culate in her between 72 hours and 0 hours [three to zero days] PRIOR to her ovulation. If you ejaculate four days prior to 0vulation, or one day after 0vulation, the you are SOL [sh!t outta luck]. So you have to keep a rigourous eye on her menstrual cycles, and she needs to keep a notebook/datebook containing all of her menstrual cycle data, to establish a baseline for the length of her cycle [it could be the “standard” 28-day cycle, or a shorter 26-day cycle, or a longer 30-day cycle, or whatever].

        Then ovulation will probably be at the very “halfway point” of the cycle, so that, if, say, she has a standard 28-Day cycle, then you’re looking at:

        Sunday the 1st: She begins bleeding at 7AM in the morning, which kicks off the beginning of the cycle.

        Wednesday night the 10th: TOO EARLY FOR SUCCESS
        Thursday night the 11th: possible for success
        Friday night the 12th: probably the best night for success
        Saturday night the 13th: possible for success
        Sunday morning the 14th: she probably ovulates at about 7AM in the morning
        Sunday night 14th: TOO LATE FOR SUCCESS

        [Then adjust accordingly for e.g. 26-day cycles or 30-day cycles, etc.]

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:30 am padawan125

        I appreciate everyone’s input. Some additional thoughts:
        1.) I have read that quality is more important than quantity so hoping that cleaning up my diet and following some of the other recommendations will help.
        2.) I closely follow Rogue Health and Fitness, lift heavy weights (deads, squats, etc.) 3 days a week. But if I understand a lot of what PD Mangan has written, it’s that there is trade-off between life extension and growth/reproduction. So I want to avoid strict life extension practices (long fasts) and grueling over-frequent workouts since both could divert my body’s effort to produce sperm.
        3.) She has stopped the pill for only 4 months. I think we need to work on watching her cycle more to find her most fertile days. And I sorta disagree with constantly ejaculating, I can’t imagine draining the balls every day helps since the body is constantly working overtime to replenish T and sperm. I almost feel like giving them some rest and having sex every 2-3 days almost builds a positive feedback loop where the increasing T levels helps sperm production even more. And by abstaining for a day or so like Corvo says makes me even want her more.
        4.) I have read, and not sure if this is true, but if she orgasms after me, it increases ejaculate retention? Wondering if even certain positions after sex, such as avoiding gravity, instead of her just getting up out of bed would help as well.
        5.) My wife is 25 yo (we met when she was 22) and she is 10 years younger than me thanks to CH and others! I never ever considered having children until I met her. And now I look forward to trying to raise kids despite our degenerate culture.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:59 am Greg Eliot

        If you get out towards a week or more without a s3x, then it’s possible that all of your “swimmers” are already dead in the water – they had drowned in your ‘nads three or four days prior to ej@culation.

        I have to call bullshit on this one… and have produced 3 sons out of four children to prove it (following the abstain technique I described in a prior post). All of ’em healthy throughout their formative years and into adulthood thus far, thank God.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:01 am Captain Obvious

        FINAL NOTE TO PLAYAHZ WHO LIKE IT “BARE”: There is no guarantee that all w0men will always 0vulate at the exact midpoint of their menstrual cycles. In fact, when highly-feminine highly-emotional highly-hormonal chicks find themselves in the presence of Peak Alpha Sh!tlord Seed, then their Hamsters are very much prepared to send the signal out the hindbrain and down to the 0varies to DROP AN EGG IMMEDIATELY so that they can get knocked up by that precious high-quality seed.

        But the key is that when the egg is dropped [whenever that is], the egg is met by young virile swimmers which are ready and willing to merge and conceive.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:08 am Captain Obvious

        > “I have to call bullshit on this one…” ——— GE, all that proves is that your sp3rm count and your sp3rm virility are on the right side [maybe even the far right side] of the sp3rm bell curve.

        But we’re dealing here with a Brother whose sp3rm are on the left side of the bell curve, and He needs ever single cheat He can bring to the table.

        [And also your wife’s fert!lity might be on the right side, or even the far right side, of the female bell curve for fert!lity.]

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:16 am Captain Obvious

        One other note on ‘nad over-heating: If you’re in a career like Long Haul truck driving, where you’re sitting in a hot truck seat 8 to 12 hours per day, then your ‘nads are being fried, and your sp3rm count is being destroyed.

        Similarly if you’re a computer programmer sitting in the Corporate Industrial Complex monkey chair for 8 to 12 hours per day staring at a computer screen.

        And G0d forbid that you should be stupid enough to add the heat of a laptop sitting in your lap.

        And not even at night: Don’t be lying in bed with the laptop or the “tablet” or the “Kindle” or the “Nook” or anything else down by your stomach/waste/midsection.

        Keep all of that friction and heat and radiation the he11 away from your ‘nads.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:19 am Greg Eliot

        Understood, Cap’n… but sometimes the power of the ejaculation is all it takes to turn the trick for those having trouble conceiving…

        And nothing boosts said power like a little abstaining. 😉

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:45 am Corvo

        Padawan — that info about your wife getting off the pill only 4 months ago is an important detail. I’ve heard stories of the lingering effects of the pill lasting over 12 months and causing delays in getting pregnant. I bet that’s the cause of the issue, not you.

        Never let her go on the pill again, even after you’ve got your 4 beautiful Huwhyte children. That shit fucks women up, physically and emotionally.

        And relax — seriously, both of you should be relaxed because stress also messes things up. You’ve got time, just enjoy the ride and it’ll happen.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 11:04 am Captain Obvious

      padawan125, here’s the study:

      SEX EVERY DAY ‘INCREASES MALE FERTILITY’ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1566279/Sex-every-day-increases-male-fertility.html

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 12:33 pm Jolly Jaded Jurist

        A male nurse who works in TRT told me that T injections were originally intended to work as male birth control, because the injections lower sperm count.

        That trial subjects (now much hornier due to the treatment) kept getting their wives pregnant tends to support the “frequency > potency” view of fertility.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 12:10 pm Broad Top

      SUPER MALE VITALITY

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  4. on March 19, 2017 at 10:29 pm A Reader Explains What Life Is Like With Low Testosterone | @the_arv

    […] A Reader Explains What Life Is Like With Low Testosterone […]

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  5. on March 19, 2017 at 10:33 pm Hosswire

    If his Testosterone & Estrogen levels were both low, the damage to his body and psyche wouldn’t be too bad. He wouldn’t have gotten the physical and mental masculinization from testosterone, but would have also escaped the feminizing effects of estrogen.

    The problem with men in the West is that our T levels keep dropping for a host of environmental, lifestyle and societal reasons BUT our estrogen levels keep rising. The extra fat around on our body creates more of it, for starters. It’s in our processed, starchy, soy-heavy junk food. And so many of the chemicals in our environment — including the plastics that touch our foods & drinks — add estrogen-mimicking compounds into our body.

    So our T to E ratio tips the wrong way — The man-boobed, cuck-faced, emotionally incontinent, passive-aggressive way.

    What this means for those who want to preserve our masculinity is that in addition to increasing our T through a healthy diet, exposure to sunlight and heavy compound lifts we should also take steps to reduce our E to the necessary minimum for health.

    This includes eating organic, reducing exposure to chemicals in grooming, filtering water and getting rid of all the plastic in our kitchen. Losing whatever extra body fat we have is also a great idea. Eating cruciferous vegetables & taking DIM supplements can help by purging excess E from our bodies.

    Lastly, taking small doses of aromatization inhibitors like aromasin or arimidex will reduce E to let our T be more effective.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 10:08 am __svd

      > He wouldn’t have gotten the physical and mental masculinization from testosterone, but would have also escaped the feminizing effects of estrogen.

      That.

      And also being born and raised in EE during the fall of Soviet Union. Saw a lot of shit. My dad got me to martial arts at seven – judo, karate, boxing. On top of that, we kicked the shit out of each other daily just for fun. Had been stabbed on multiply occasions, had been shot at. I might’ve been low on T, but the culture I’ve been born into was extremely masculine.

      I’m actually think that I’ve been doing “fake it till you make” for a quite a while, acting more manly than a manly man due to the feeling of inadequacy.

      And I should say: getting your T back feels FUCKING AWESOME! Like being a tibet monk in training with 10 kilo weights strapped to each one of your legs for a decade – and now they’re gone. What always had to be done through willpower and rational self-push, now comes natural.

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  6. on March 19, 2017 at 10:33 pm Anonymous

    In Vancouver, ever since reading this blog I’ve noticed there are so many more men with fat on their thighs, small shoulders, fat on belly. From the back can’t tell if it’s a man or a woman. Saw a man on the train yesterday and I couldn’t stop staring cuz I was just shocked at how feminine looking he was. It’s so gross! So many narrow shoulders, thick thigh men.

    [CH: i’m seeing the same thing. lots of fat-thighed, wide-hipped, narrow- and stoop-shouldered males. it’s disgusting.]

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 12:36 pm Jolly Jaded Jurist

      I was thinking of starting a thread about this on RVF. So many pear-shaped men these days, especially young men! Freakin creepy….

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 10:31 pm SteveRogers42

      The female hormonal counterpart is the flatso — a bulging blimp with nothing up top. Truly, something strange and unprecedented is going on.

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  7. on March 19, 2017 at 10:40 pm Vincent

    Where was the tumor located? I have had to deal with them in the brain since about 2011. Killed my sex drive (and almost killed me). But I went hardcore paleo and it worked, at least for me…

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 10:10 am __svd

      Pituitary gland. Macro prolactinoma.

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  8. on March 19, 2017 at 10:51 pm Handle

    This is 90% me. I’m Asian though.

    I was also EE but now I’m doing something more lucrative. I was definitely a late bloomer (never even dated until after college). I’m not as “naive” as I once was so I do get approached my girls. I do miss a lot of signals unless they are very overt.

    Yes, not that much interest in sex (I do get girls that want to tear my clothes off etc). Yes, needs fetish for good erection (D also). Not suicidal depressive, but I do think I’m mildly bipolar.

    —

    Also, Trump voter here. Not leftist, SWPL, hipster, etc.

    And not gay. Probably the total opposite of gay. Girls need to be very feminine for me to have any interest (no lawyercunts, etc.)

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  9. on March 19, 2017 at 11:05 pm ng85

    “One more: depression as a norm of life. Suicide intentions for years. That fueled passive attitude toward the world and may have been seen like weakness.”

    This is part of my theory about why so many trannies commit suicide. I’ve heard that guys with low T have serious depression and suicidal thoughts which usually go away when they get their T under control. So maybe, just maybe, T is perfectly natural for men to function normally.

    But trannies not only take estrogen, they also take T blockers so their body stops producing T. This is no doubt why even after they get hormones and surgery and get their dicks cut off they usually feel worse, almost always having substance issues and depression which leads to their insanely high suicide rate. Could it be because they’re cutting off their T production (Low T) while at the same time introducing another hormone that they don’t produce in large amounts which is also poisonous to the body in large amounts?

    Nah, let’s just blame it on societal oppression.

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  10. on March 19, 2017 at 11:14 pm Reb

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  11. on March 19, 2017 at 11:26 pm lamode

    True for the most part, but I’ve seen bantanweight hipsters in lycra blend skinny jeans with very attractive women as well (not as orbiter/friend zone). These guys simply don’t get addressed.

    Then I’ve seen prototypical alpha men in carharrt jackets who are complete retards.

    http://mtv.mtvnimages.com/onair/the_hills/season_5/photos/justin/justin_0929.jpg?width=600

    Dude had MAD game. In LA for example, you see guys like this all the time who are actually red-pill by nature (not learned red-pill), not really found in other places.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 11:48 am Reb

      Being in the South, basic redneck clothing is a pet peeves of mine. Sure I wear it too when I do rugged work that calls for it, but wearing a tshirt and jeans you bought at Walmart to go around town in? No self-respect.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:35 pm melmoth

        Agreed. I’m so sick of how disheveled and slovenly grown adults are in the USA. A lot of guys have come to see looking like a shitheaded 8th grader as some roundabout sign of being a ‘zfg man’s man’. I would hardly stand being out in sneakers, jeans and T shirt or ratty flannel. It sucks. Putting on decent, well-fitting clothes is fundamental to being a man.

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  12. on March 19, 2017 at 11:45 pm Chris

    Ugh. That was a tough read. So many guys in that state nowadays.

    I’m getting myself together: 29, exhausted and depressed easily.

    Finally addressing a gluten intolerance and have phased out dairy in order to get the weight down. Once that stabilizes I’ll probably add dairy for protein and hit the gym.

    This is the first stretch of my life without processed food and flour so it’ll be interesting to see how I’ll feel come summertime.

    Also have problems with libio. Was able to NoFap before it was a thing and thats not due to porn or anything, just really saw my sex drive fall in my early 20s because of depression etc that came from gluten.

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  13. on March 20, 2017 at 12:37 am Heinrich

    “As you can see, chronically low T on both the individual and societal level is almost entirely downside. Bullying decreases. Maybe you could call that an upside. I wouldn’t.”

    Men are made by rough life. This includes bullying, competing, fighting…
    The so called “safe places/zones” in modern universities have been invented to neuter men. They are part of the Cultural Marxism Matrix, whose only goal is to destroy western society. It is all psy-war!

    Good bless all free minds!

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 11:48 am ayatollah1988

      Actually I think there has been an increase in bullying *because* of the emasculation of society. Zero tolerance policies enable bullying because boys know that their lives could actually be ruined if they use violence. Sometimes the only way to get a bully to stop bullying is to show him that you’re not afraid to hit him- he may win the fight, but he’s still gonna get hit. But boys know now that their lives could be ruined if they hit anyone- expelled, held back a year, etc. So any bullying that isn’t overtly violent is protected from reprisal.

      Boys used to have to deal with bullies. Now they have to deal with bullies *and* a system that is against them. It’s too much.

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    • on March 21, 2017 at 5:45 am Roy

      It’s just another cohencidence.

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  14. on March 20, 2017 at 1:47 am A Reader Explains What Life Is Like With Low Testosterone | Reaction Times

    […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  15. on March 20, 2017 at 3:45 am Ponce du Lion

    Heartiste I got mod a important comment on a guy forecasting Western Decay by sexual bolshevism in a 1911 book

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  16. on March 20, 2017 at 4:08 am gunslingergregi

    so your saying bump that T
    one my chicks today
    said
    i’m not like anyone else
    when it comes to nutting and prob everything
    i guess she think i nut all the time
    she couldn’t get me to nut in an hour of sucking

    my suicidal shit didn’t really start until i found out bout divorce laws
    and then got worse seeing two countries destroyed
    but yea

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 4:11 am gunslingergregi

      suicide might be a good thing sometimes taken in moderation
      he he he
      cured the ex ex she don’t want to die anymore never says it

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 4:14 am gunslingergregi

        she sent me a pic of her cut wrist before i went to the police station with it
        they picked her up she said wasen’t trying to die and they let her go

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 4:15 am gunslingergregi

        bitch died in north dakota though when i wasen’t there
        she loves life now though she said he he he

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 4:20 am gunslingergregi

        allthough seem like everyone i know or people they know dieing
        whats life though
        after you had so many loves
        ex ex and ex blending together
        like not sure who did what anymore in some cases
        the wife still stands out but haven’t seen her in forever allthough she called me this morning and all night like she always pretty much does
        how much is there to do
        how many pieces of soul do people posess

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 4:21 am gunslingergregi

        wifes mom died her sisters husband died her sister died
        there a lot of people i know left the earth now jeez

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 6:10 am gunslingergregi

        all the people that were trying to live and now gone
        i said at 18 or so whats the point of going through that middle part just die and skip it
        but really looking back now
        the new loves in life and the adventures have maybe been worth the effort
        but what now more of same

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 6:20 am gunslingergregi

        one my chicks today
        said
        i’m not like anyone else””””’

        chick who said that talks about dieing or some shit
        i think she thought she was gonna take exes place
        she prob just playing
        allthuogh she came her hands had abseses and shit
        i was like wtf
        you need go doctor stayed on her ass about it
        she listened got it fixed up
        she had same boyfriend forever almost
        so pretend love shit but maybe she thought it was real for min
        but prob not lol
        maybe its every chick you touch takes a piece of you
        and at certain point no more to give
        why i only had three actual girlfriends live in in 5 years although that may be too many

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 6:21 am gunslingergregi

        the one was like two months so really 2 ltr

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 6:25 am gunslingergregi

        that chick and ex really falling apart at the seams
        wtf
        i told both of em want to see em do good
        told ex you want to get back at me do good that would be best revenge or some shit do better don’t go over a fucking cliff

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  17. on March 20, 2017 at 4:49 am Hackett To Bits

    -‘literal bending over backwards for invading hordes’

    Or is it: bending over forwards?

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  18. on March 20, 2017 at 4:59 am Hackett To Bits

    Another side effect, Bill Gates:

    ‘…I understand why some Americans watch their tax dollars going overseas and wonder why we’re not spending them at home. Here’s my answer: These projects keep Americans safe. And by promoting health, security and economic opportunity, they stabilize vulnerable parts of the world.’

    This sort of earnest neoconservatism belongs the under low-T effects. What other explanation is there for this ‘we’re soooo sorry we haven’t lavished you with American blood and treasure yet!’ attitude?

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  19. on March 20, 2017 at 5:41 am Major Styles

    “total blindness toward any signals from women. They just don’t register….”

    Justin Trudeau…is that you?

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  20. on March 20, 2017 at 5:51 am Ripp

    -Bernie Sanders supporters

    low T.

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  21. on March 20, 2017 at 5:58 am Wrong Side of History

    Womyyn love soft facial features with a splash of T.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 6:08 am __svd

      Can’t agree to that. While being low-T cutie pie with means commanded a lot attention (esp. from women a few years older, but I never acted upon it), being handsome, manly and cocky/teasing/qualifying is a true pussy magnet for 20-somethings (although it makes mid-30s anxious).

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 7:02 am Ponce du Lion

      Cute features(big but deep eyes and nice lips but not bj lips) with large jaw and nose, is which women like most, in my experience. Big manly european noses not rathook nose.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:35 am Reb

        Women the sexy eyes. I know, because I got em.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 7:35 am Greg Eliot

      Ghey Yahweh has been reading too much Teen Beat magazine.

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  22. on March 20, 2017 at 7:47 am wolfie65

    I get a little suspicious when a guy posts something about his s3xual stamina on a site frequented mostly by men.
    Wrong audience, dude.
    While having actual medical issues is terrible, there are things you can do to combat most of them, might want to look into nutrition, maybe herbal supplements, first.
    Stay away from doctors and chemical drug$ if at all possible, definitely until they get rid of Obamadoesntcare.
    You do NOT want a ‘nurse practitioner’ telling you what to do or prescribing some sort of p0is0n!!!!
    That’ll be $ 95, how would you like to pay ?

    No interest in girls – in an otherwise normal man – sounds like depression to me.
    Grinding incel is usually caused by just not being attractive to women – too sh0rt, old, f@t, fug, poor, b@ld, that sort of thing.
    They can’t ‘smell’ low T in guys, there are PLENTY more than enough very cute girls who’re with guys whose T levels are about that of wet dish rags.
    As long as he’s cute, tall & young, that’s really all she cares about.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 7:51 am theasdgamer

      Yeah, girls love insecure young boys…to dump for an old, secure, fit man.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 8:29 am Corvo

      “As long as he’s cute, tall & young, that’s really all she cares about.”

      You’ve been saying this for as long as I can remember, Wolfie. That sucks if it’s been your experience, but take an honest look at yourself and whether you’ve tried to improve your value as a man, beyond things you can’t control (height, age, and “looks”). No matter how many time you’re told otherwise by well-intentioned people here, you keep singing that same gloomy song.

      Yeah, if you’re in your 50s you’re probably not gonna have much luck with 19 year olds if you’re short and not a looker, but you should be having some success with women in their 30s if you’re doing it right and have achieved some success in your life.

      And as a side note to the young men here — no, it’s not enough to be young, tall and “good looking”, as Wolfie claims. That’s an attitude that won’t get you very far. Work on your game and on your own success and life mission.

      [CH: wolfie is a sex market reality-denialist. for reasons that probably reflect his own personality shortcomings, he can’t and won’t believe that charismatic men of middling looks and height do very well with women.]

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:47 am wolfie65

        I’ve been saying it for years and it’s been true for tens of thousabnds of years.
        I’m not a ‘denialist’, just a realist.
        That’s the way things actually are.
        If I ever – EVER – see a guy of below average height, looks, age, money or social status with any girl I might actually want to approach – in REAL LIFE, that is – I’ll let you know.

        [CH: you live a hermit’s life then. not only do i see plenty of average-looking but charming men with hotties, i in fact would say that most couples to my eyes look like the woman is dating down, if the only measure used to evaluate couple compatibility is looks.]

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:54 am Greg Eliot

        [CH: wolfie is a sex market reality-denialist. for reasons that probably reflect his own personality shortcomings, he can’t and won’t believe that charismatic men of middling looks and height do very well with women.]

        Also, he sees a mudsharking White woman sex tourist under every bed.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:58 am Reb

        Give him some credit here. Tall, young, athletic men with savage looks usually translates into high-T with swag.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:17 am Les Saunders, Protestant

        Being tall and handsome simply isn’t enough. Well, I suppose it will get you some play but it’s not the be-all end-all. I’m tall and handsome, but had weak game in my 20s. My physical attributes meant I didn’t starve and probably got me a number of 02:00am drunk hookups at da club that a short, homely fellow wouldn’t.

        However – I’ll tell you about a good buddy of mine in university. 6’0″, better-looking and -built than me. Had absolutely zero game. Think he got laid once in 4 years of school by some fat redhead in our dorm who I turned down. Once, after graduating, a whole bunch of us gathered in the countryside at a buddy’s parents farm for a weekend of games, drinking, and pig-roasting. A good, old-stock Canadian gathering. A female friend of a friend, a lovely natural blonde haired, slim lass, let it be known that she would bang the retiring buddy of mine. He completely buckled. I saw him freeze up, shift nervously, and stammer, “I can’t do it.” A few lads and I tried to strong-arm him into going to her tent, but nothing doing. We speculated that he was gay, but I lived with the guy for over a year, and I honestly believe he simply has zero game and zero confidence. His mother was quite a stern and forbidding figure in his life. To this day, 12 years after graduation, he still lives at home, commutes into the city to work, and is thoroughly single.

        The moral of the story? Being tall and handsome isn’t everything. Not even close. I’ve seen many shorter, less attractive men hook up with quite attractive women over the years. To be fair, I’ve seen many of the same type of men hook up with fat, homely women, and this is what you’d expect.

        What do we all want? Hotter, younger, tighter. To get that you need to be, above all, interesting. That can mean being an asshole with a motorcycle, being a musician, or having game. Tall and handsome gives you some breathing room if you’re a little short in the charisma department, but not a hell of a lot. I’m a tall and handsome guy, but the best lays I’ve got over the years had far more to do with upping my charisma and zfg/keep ploughing attitude than walking into a place and having girls throw themselves at me based on looks alone.

        By the way, Ukraine continues to be interesting. Girls here are sexy as hell and receptive to being approached – it’s normal here. I’m staying in a suburban area so they don’t get any foreigners here (100% Ukrainian here) and they practically cream their pants when I speak English. Why is that? Because, as adduced above, being a White native English speaker is interesting, and interesting is what sets hearts and pussies alight. It just might be a poosy paradise here.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 7:31 pm Ben

        I know where you’re at bro and while it seems like no one understands your struggle, but I do. The point isn’t that you’ll be draped in covergirls; it’s that you’ll ALWAYS be batting out of your “league”
        I’m an honest 2 or 3 (not just face ugly, sub 6ft balding destitute) and I still pulled several strong relationships from chicks objectively and clearly hotter than me. I mean the kind of girl people express astonishment about behind your back. Heard it all my life. In terms of looks they could all do better and all had. I don’t have some secret or formula..no strategy or suggestions…except to say I dared. Huge fan of Voltaire in my teens and one of his quotes stuck with me; “give me five minutes to talk away my ugly face and I will bed the queen of France.”

        I believed him…and i intuitively grasped that was all that mattered.

        If she’s legit hot to you and the sex is great man cannot ask for more.
        When people see your girl and they look at you with a sudden higher respect…extremely gratifying. Success tends to replicate

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:37 pm melmoth

        Get a passport one day Wolfie.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 8:45 am bolg

      “… They can’t ‘smell’ low T in guys, there are PLENTY more than enough very cute girls who’re with guys whose T levels are about that of wet dish rags… ”

      right, the best gay friend phenomenon.

      you do have a point on not trusting the medical treatment racket though. today’s medicine is not about curing, its about perpetuating treatment.

      and there’s nothing more damaging to treatment than a healthy patient.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:09 am vfm#7634

        The faggy manlet/cute chick phemonenon could be related to the woman being raised in a very progtard environment where men and women are interchangeable, so she seeks out little numale manlets who remind her of her girlfriends.

        But I’ve also noticed that such couples tend to be quite unstable. One couple like that broke up in divorce and the chick then went with a fellow in the military. In another couple’s case, the woman was giving me plenty of buying signals.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 2:04 pm bolg

        “…so she seeks out little numale manlets who remind her of her girlfriends.

        But I’ve also noticed that such couples tend to be quite unstable. …”

        hahaha, you just described the famous experimentation-finding-your-self phase. doesn’t last, no. life (wall) gets in the way. good thing there are good-heart(ist)ed dudes around to make the landing less rough.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 11:19 am Heinrich

      Handsome tall man (without game) can not get better than HB7. For really hot girls you have to have charisma.

      [CH: women are holistic mate value assessors. this is both good and bad news for men. it means a man can’t rest on his laurels if he has one redeeming trait, but it also means men can work to improve themselves in areas unrelated to their looks that will increase their success with women.]

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  23. on March 20, 2017 at 8:07 am Anonymous

    OT: survey in Italy 2017

    This is Italy, 2017. Girlfriend from East Europe are better as they do not cry, allow cheating, let the man rule, do the chores & are sexy pic.twitter.com/6k1Smkrupv

    — Andrea Presbitero (@a_presbitero) March 20, 2017

    some countries don’t need game. they have it in their culture.

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  24. on March 20, 2017 at 8:07 am elmertjones

    “Math is hard”

    Actual video of my father helping me with the Calculus :

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  25. on March 20, 2017 at 9:39 am Reb

    Mine would beat my ass if I fell back on my Bible lessons. Paid off.

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  26. on March 20, 2017 at 9:42 am vfm#7634

    Classic late bloomer here. I’m pretty sure I didn’t really have my proper adult T supply flowing through my system until I was in my late 20s.

    Another reason that older man/younger woman isn’t unnatural… if late bloomers followed the social pressure to date their own age, well…

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 12:14 pm mal

      So what are the best solutions that readers here have tried?

      I eat a high protein, high fat diet, lift, compete and train combat sports, work construction, get enough sleep and I’m wondering what else I can do.

      I’ve progressed massively but more needs to be done.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:41 pm melmoth

        How big are you? All the ‘lifting equals T’ banter you hear is misguided imo. I lift too, always have. But guys are getting so freaking big these days with the supplements etc. Your little nuts that were meant for a 165 pound frame might be overworked if you’re 215, muscle or not. It’s still 50 more pounds of flesh. Watch out for bigorexia. Wiry men are usually the biggest horndogs. Stay small. Lift, run, hike but stay on the small side.

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  27. on March 20, 2017 at 10:18 am Reb

    My avatar looks like an inverted penis.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 10:21 am Greg Eliot

      Or a Space Invader. kek

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:24 am Reb

        Trannie from Mars

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 10:32 am Greg Eliot

        Heh, heh… Mars Needs Women. kekekek

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 12:56 pm Jolly Jaded Jurist

      Mine is an actual re-creation of my beans & frank spraying indiscriminately as I whip my unit from side to side while yelling “FREEDOM!”

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  28. on March 20, 2017 at 10:25 am CBR600RR_Rider

    bullying is only a problem for kidz raised in shitty / dysfunctional households. my son who’s 8-yo is not going to be bullied; at a recent bday party i took him to some k1d (few years older than him) called him a fool; my kidz walks up to him, pushes him in the chest and says “hey don’t call me that!” was the first time i saw him stand up to someone. all the parents were there; at first i wanted to intervene but stopped myself

    heh! little shitlord in the making 🙂

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 10:30 am Corvo

      Nice – keep up the good work.

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  29. on March 20, 2017 at 10:27 am Jolly Jaded Jurist

    Marathon running: can’t believe I needed this pointed out to me! It’s so true in EVERY marathoner I have met (unless he also does Ironmans, in which case it’s a coin toss). Even Forrest Gump running coast-to-coast was higher T.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 10:56 am Reb

      Overexercising kills T. You need a solid pre and post workout supplement and get zs.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 10:57 am Reb

      You can wait up to 4 hours to take the BCAAs post workout though. None of this 20 minutes window bullshits.

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  30. on March 20, 2017 at 10:34 am Hitfan

    I think degrees of Alpha / Testosterone certainly has variations among the population. I can relate to the following points:

    * total blindness toward any signals from women. They just don’t register.

    Well, I’ve had more than one instance where I would be out with a girlfriend and then she would say “that slut was totally checking you out… you didn’t notice?”. I’m a borderline aspie, so I definitely don’t notice the signals sometimes.

    * no interest toward team sport. I love boxing though, and ran daily sparrings for a decade. No problem with being competitive or dominant in work setting.

    I myself generally eschew team sports and do not even watch much sports on TV — but I used to watch boxing when it was popular back in the day. But I like to go running and lift weights in my leisure time. I enjoy social activities, but I like being alone and zone out.

    * never owned a car (but you don’t really need one in Europe). Always was irrelevant to cars.

    I prefer to walk everywhere. Keeps me in shape. I did not bother to get a driver’s license until I was in my early 30s.

    But I’ve always been a far rightist even before I knew what game was. But I never had problems with my libido. I think a lot what is listed in the article doesn’t necessarily have to be ascribed to being caused by low T.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 10:44 am __svd

      It was a response to a previous post here by Heartiste. He listed some things, I picked those that ringed a bell.

      Key issues are lack of sexual attraction (which actually makes interaction with women easier, as there’s no underlying anxiety of any sort) and depression / emotional numbness.

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  31. on March 20, 2017 at 11:51 am ayatollah1988

    Probably not svd’s problem since his was a tumor, but the role of cortisol in the emasculation of men has to be mentioned. It’s not just about test and estrogen levels. It’s not just about xenoestrogens in the water. It’s about stress. Cutting back on coffee is one of the best things I did to improve my T.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 12:15 pm Broad Top

      As a coffee addict, thanks for this advice. Been on a cutting diet and I’m looking for any boost I can get. My 3 month old son isn’t helping my wife much in that department, but my diet isn’t exactly setting my own loins on fire, either.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 12:32 pm __svd

      Took a couple of cortisol tests (blood sample – stress-inducing injection, another blood sample in 15 minutes, final one in 30 minutes) during treatment to control for that – all good; like, literally no change before/after. I always had a very stressful job, so my panic threshold is extremely high by now.

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  32. on March 20, 2017 at 12:21 pm Little spoon

    You know there are creams that allow you to absorb testosterone into your bloodstream. I can’t believe your doctor hadn’t prescribed this for you.

    I know a guy who had both testicles removed from cancer and produced almost no natural t. But he took this cream and seems fine. He was very alpha too. Try it.

    [CH: ugh, i’m reminded of that battlefield trope of the soldier who gets his crotch blown off and begs a fellow soldier to put him out of his misery.]

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 12:41 pm __svd

      They found a tumor a week after they spotted low-T. The T shoot up after two weeks on meds. It was all found by chance.

      I’m good now, with natural high-T restored. I don’t need replacement therapy.

      So it’s not the doctors, it’s me never considering I might have low T, because the symptoms were always vague – depression might be caused by hundreds of factors; there were no ED, and low libido I just considered to be “natural”.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 2:00 pm Little spoon

        Well I’m glad to hear you figured it out and are fine.

        Ch, That’s an interesting attitude. I’d rather have 100% fake parts than decline or die. Sadly the former isn’t an option and the latter is going to happen.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 9:27 pm italianopeningbuc

        I know a guy who got cancer and got both of his balls chopped off. He lives a normal life and has a pretty wife.

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  33. on March 20, 2017 at 12:43 pm Unacknowledged_Legislator

    Add this to the Low (none) T- Count List malaise:
    “Cuckold stands by wife after she has sex with 14-year-old”
    http://nypost.com/2017/03/20/man-stands-by-wife-after-her-affair-with-middle-school-kid/

    On the other hand, the little 14 yo shitlord is pumping and dumping way ahead of the pack.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 2:53 pm ayatollah1988

      Her facebook is still up. I’m sure she’ll take it down soon but if you look now you can get a look at her. She has crazy slut eyes^10. And the rest of the girls in her family look kinda slutty too.

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      • on March 20, 2017 at 6:26 pm vfm#7634

        “Lajiness, according to her Facebook profile, was a former esthetician at a salon in Monroe who studied at UNLV and the Michigan College of Beauty.”

        UNLV…

        if you don’t want to get burned by a hot slut, stay away from chicks who’ve gone to UNLV, have lived in Vegas, or are from Vegas.

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    • on March 20, 2017 at 6:21 pm vfm#7634

      Hey now… she might just become the next First Lady of France.

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  34. on March 20, 2017 at 3:58 pm EbolaChan

    Interdasting…I’ve suspected that my Testosterone:Estrogen levels are out of whack due to my fat deposits (love handles) and low libido, but I do gain muscle (and fat) very easily. I’m absolutely an endomorph to the extreme, regular lifter for 10+ years but even when I’ve dropped my bodyfat to 12% I’m not vascular or as ‘cut’ as others would be at that BF%.

    I recently started to play with this via Aromatase Inhibitors and DAA (both OTC) and I have to say the results are undeniable, mentally and physically. Anxiety levels dropped, strength went up, mood-swings nearly non-existent. My mind is much less ‘scattered’ and easily distracted and my thoughts feel more linear. Libido definitely increased.

    The AI does dry you out (eyes, joints, piss like crazy at first) but it’s definitely worth a shot if you suspect your E/T levels are shit-tier. I’ll probably save up to go to an actual endocrinologist after this cycle given my positive results.

    Like CH said and many of us already knew, environmental factors like plastics, xenoestrogens, processed foods, etc.; avoiding estrogen enhancing toxins is nearly unavoidable.

    >inb4 “hurr eat paleo and avoid plastics!”

    The clean food you spend top-shekels on is wrapped in plastic and steeped in BPA.

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    • on March 24, 2017 at 3:31 pm joe

      Love handles are a sign of insulin resistance, not estrogen. Since you are endomorph, you probably have problems with insulin from your genetics. Fat deposits in ass and thighs usually mean estrogen dominance.

      As for the symptoms themselves, no, they are not necessarily related to T. I am on steroids on a cruise and blast protocol (if you don’t know how that works, google it) and I have depression, anxiety and instead of being laid back I am aggressive and anti-social most of the time. Libido is very high though and I masturbate 5-6 times a day but mostly to feel relief from the random, constant boners. My prolactin and estrogen are very well in range and my gear is good. My bloodwork couldn’t explain the above, I should be laid back and chill instead of taking my aggression out on people.

      I looked this up some months ago and it turns out the way testosterone affects you is entirely genetic. For most of the issues you mentioned in the original post, testosterone isn’t even the primary cause. Testosterone has been vastly overrated on the internet lately and most of the early reviews can be put down to placebo. Unless if you have mantits or are critically skinny then you probably have no need for Test or AIs. Your hormonal pathways are either fucked from your genetics or there are other issues with you, such as problems with serotonin or dopamine release. And this can be put down to enviromental causes even more so, like lead poisoning in the womb f.e.

      If you are fucked in this regard then you are well and truly fucked. Best deal you will ever get out of steroids if you are like me is that you can sit on your depressed ass doing nothing and still put on more muscle than the average cuck bench pressing in the gym 4 times a week.

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