Emailer M has a Game question concerning girls who needle men about their pasts.
Any quick tips for being in a relationship where a female frets about your past? I’m a frequent recipient of shit tests regarding my ‘fuckboy’ past. Example: ‘you’re so good at ____, you must have done this a lot of other girls’.
I’ll start with one I used in the past with wondrous success: “I was thinking about you every time” (for use after an extended break).
Hopefully these can help other readers in similar situations.
Agree&Amplify is your best friend in these situations.
FLARING FURROW: “you’re so good at _____, you must have done this with a lot of other girls.”
TRUMP’S IDOL: “practice makes perfect.”
If she persists (like thecunt didn’t), and Agree&Amplify isn’t leading her out of rummaging through your past, then you move on to DEFCUNT 2: LAY DOWN THE LAW.
PUCKERING PUSSY: “how many girls have you been with, seriously?”
HE WHOM TRUMP CONSULTS: “a normal amount. keep pestering me with this crap and you can join them.”
Generally, girls who are truly worried about your past and what it might mean for the present with you, won’t directly verbalize those worries, especially not in the glib manner that M relays here. So if a girl you’re with is sneaking in coy, quasi-flirtatious jabs about your past relationships with girls, she’s just winding herself up for a big drama fix. Many such cases. A numerically imposing number of women love manufacturing drama, because modern society with all its technocomforts, office cubicle desouling, and forcible betatization sucks the drama, and the essential sexual polarity, out of relationships.
To retrieve a semblance of that missing drama, girls will sometimes dig for juicy nuggets in your romantic past. This serves two purposes: One, it can alleviate her concern that she may have hitched her womb wagon to a beta mule with a thin romantic history, and two, it helps invigorate her flagging libido when she suspects she has to compete with the vagina power of girls cum before her.
A guide for interpreting girls’ fretting about your past:
- If you receive no questions from a girl about your romantic history, she’s not fully invested in you. She still has too much relationship hand.
- If you receive an occasional half-serious question from a girl about your romantic history, she’s worried just the right amount that you might be too good for her. Expect sheet-twisting sex soon.
- If you receive a constant, irritating barrage of leaden questions from a girl about your romantic history, she’s either stalker material or rationalizing her utter lack of interest in you. Deploy A&A and DEFCUNT 2, and if those fail, beat her to the dumping.
A curt “none of your business” is the appropriate response.
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“I was a virgin before I met you, and then you corrupted me.”
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I like that approach, or I just smirk and remain silent.
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What’s worked for me is fighting fire with fire. “You want to be a little prosecutor, I can do that too. Tell me about all your past lovers, starting with the first. How old were you. What games did you play on him.”
They stop real fast.
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In the line of Capt Obvious…
“Oh, me? I’m a virgin. But I hear sex is good! Is it true?? Have you done “it?”” She laughs. Conversation is over.
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@mkkby not a fan of that response. this type of shit test is a free pass to communicate you’re sexually experienced. chicks are more attracted to guys who have been with a lot of women. try communicating that instead of flipping the script, which does nothing other than possibly slut shame her, a quick way to raise her anti-slut defenses and lose a potential notch.
boned’s response of smirking and remaining silent is gold in this situation.
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smirk and momentarily stare off into space as though you’re reminiscing on all the beautiful women you’ve tagged. it’s gold. makes her think she is nothing special and will have her work cut out for her if she wants to make a lasting impression.
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What is a woman whom you meet/court on the Internet trying to tell you when she not only demands that your first in-person encounter be in bed (always mine, never hers, I suddenly realize) and that she get to bring a girlfriend with her? I have had three first dates in three different cities turn out to be “double dates”.
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@Jedi that she’s a sl00t
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“Enough to know not to entertain this question… Some more wine?” Smile. Move on.
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Unrelated but important issue regarding problem with mixed race marriages/children
http://sociobiologicalmusings.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/problems-with-mixed-race-marriages-and.html?m=1
Get the word out people
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Women in mixed raced marriages often get the message ‘this was a bad idea’ beat into them
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“He Whom Trump Consults”….hahahaha….gold, Jerry, GOLD!
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last week: “that’s a great topic. for you to discuss with my girlfriend”
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a man is under no obligation to answer ANYONE’S questions, let alone a girl who’s trying to oversell herself (and they’re ALL overselling themselves) and hijack your resources.
but that doesn’t negate the value of avoiding ‘gotcha’ questions with plausibly deniable finesse. “you’re silly” has the right amused mastery tone.
best defense is to stop the conversation before it even starts by remaining strategically aloof. if a girl senses that you’re unshakeable and never quite within reach, chances are she won’t push her luck by questioning your integrity.
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>> best defense is to stop the conversation before it even starts
Yeah. This is leading… or… to do this effectively, you’ll have to lead. If you leave a vacuum, she’ll fill it back up with drama. But if you deny this path and then lead her away… “these are not the droids you’re looking for.”
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A woman asking about a man’s past partners is a screening technique.
Aka, what she’s really trying to figure out is whether you’re going to be an overcompensating tool or not. Let me give an example.
Her (in a coy tone): “So you seem pretty experienced…”
Tool with no game: “You know it banging chicks all day I’m so alpha hurr Durr”
True player: Smiles with obviously feigned embarrassment and says “Nah just a couple” or something.
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Nah a no game tool would recount his meager list of GFs and analyze why the current chick was better
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“… Smiles with obviously feigned embarrassment …”
obviously feigned and player are not exactly mutually non-exclusive.
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It’s just an example. What I’m saying is don’t wholeheartedly take the bait on questions like that. It can cause you to look like too much of a try hard.
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got your point. was kidding
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Had a Defcunt 2 situation with current plate. The questions were incessant: what happened to your last gf, why did X happen, and she wouldn’t relent despite my teasing evasions. It is correct to initiate the breakup, which is what I did.
Bam. All questions about my past came to an immediate halt. She literally begged me to take her back. It amounted to us not seeing each other for about a week, but it’s remarkable how, after you show some hand, women will rationalize to themselves how they never really needed to pry in the first place.
[CH: DEFCUNT 1, fyi, is “See ya!”]
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>> It is correct to initiate the breakup, which is what I did.
Good choice. I think this whole scenario is about the type of girl and/how you lead.
>> what happened to your last gf, why did X happen, and she wouldn’t relent despite my teasing evasions.
I once told a longterm relationship that “you are more into my ex girlfriends than I am.” I was much younger then, or I never would have let that get started… eventually… I left as well.
A man that won’t leave her in this situation is proving he is weak… and should expect things to get much worse, if she doesn’t dump him first.
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Late teen early twenty dating culture is way different from anything else. It’s like France, where people are expected to cheat. Maybe she was a banged-out slut who is projecting, but she could also be low n-count and trying to avoid pump and dumpism.
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Regardless — this can be generalized. A beta let’s women berate and disrespect them, because he is afraid he has no options. An alpha doesn’t want mean bitchy women in his life and is not afraid to say so.
Think about it. Why would you want ANYONE in your life who is not a good friend? Once I became alpha I terminated relationships with so-called friends and some relatives, who were really just not nice people.
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exactly. game isn’t all about passing shit tests.
most importantly it’s about having the ability to pick and choose who you want in your life instead of making due with whatever shitty people you happen to encounter.
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“I was a nice Christian boy who was nothing but good but you have corrupted this pillar of purity YOU SKANK”
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You could ask her if she’s a slut.
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Never call a woman a skank unless you are fucking her (heat of the moment) and she likes being called slut/ho/skank while you give it to that trim.
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Bruh, a “fuckboy” is a homosexual. If girls are calling you a fag, next them.
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yeah fuckboy doesn’t mean dude who fucks a lot of girls lol
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This question has dogged me for years.
My hypothesis is that these broads suspect that I’m a heavily romantic bastard and that I’ve stayed a lot of poosy. One girl asked me this very question not that long ago. It was a sunny Sunday afternoon and 4 or 5 hours after we’d met we found ourselves back in my apartment having a few drinks. She chose to sit on the armchairs rather than share a couch. I can’t recall if it was before or after I sucked her tits that she asked about my track record. This broad was a total bitch by the way, first rate cünt. But, she was nice looking and had a nice ass and tits. Anywho, I just rolled with that. Said, “yep, I’ve had a very fulfilling love life.” I then proceeded to share with her some of my more ilLUSTrious adventures and conquests, including flight attendant stories, SNL, etc. I figgered that if this cünt wants to know, then I’ll let her have it and then some. At that point I’d already made my mind up that if I banged this girl, I’d just do the old cum-on-her-face-and-never-call-her-again routine. I do this for girls I genuinely dislike but still would bang. As it happens, I didn’t get past getting her top and bra removed. She got up to leave, and said thanks for the day. She was expecting me to say thanks also, and was a bit miffed when I cavalierly said, “you’re welcome.” I didn’t initiate any more contact and she unmatched me a few days later.
So, if girlz pull this one on you, deftly and cutely bat it away. If they persist, fück ’em, figuratively and literally, and not necessarily in that order.
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all women that are interested in you for “something more” ask the question in some form. thing is, if they are bitchy about asking it, they are bitches and should be avoided. i would’ve liked the knowledge how to answer it 20 years ago…
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>> If you receive no questions from a girl about your romantic history, she’s not fully invested in you. She still has too much relationship hand.
Disagree… and from two different angles.
1. If you’ve swept her off her feet, she is in the magic… not fishing for drama. I’ll go back the the RSD guys, and their “be at the cause, not at the effect.” If you’re at the cause, if you’re leading her effectively… how did you end up in drama land? And if you can’t lead her away from a conversation like that, it says something about your choice of girls and/or your leadership skills.
2. Girls don’t dig (not in my experience), because they are solipsistic. It’s not about them, therefore it doesn’t exist. I am amazed that girls I meet in daygame NEVER bring up the fact that I must have “done this before.” I believe this is because they can’t see past their own existence… it never even occurs to them that they are not the “only one” I’ve approached on the street. It NEVER comes up. Never.
[CH: not every girl digs into the past, but i’ve found even with the feet-swept girls that an occasional curiosity about my romantic past surfaces. these moments are easily dismissed and deflated, which would not be the case if the girl was fishing for excuses to get out of the relationship.]
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they all ask. some do it too delicately to notice (right away).
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They ask because they are trying to place themselves in the pecking order… Preferably on top. It is never about you. Always about her in some fashion.
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>> these moments are easily dismissed and deflated, which would not be the case if the girl was fishing for excuses to get out of the relationship
— CH
Agreed.
>> some do it too delicately to notice (right away).
— Bolg
Maybe, to CH’s point, these have been relatively easy for me to dismiss, and “delicate” enough that they were no drama…
>> alleviate her concern that she may have hitched her womb wagon to a beta mule with a thin romantic history
— CH
This is another way of saying she is screening for “sexual/social proof.” And as I think about it, I have had very brief mentions of sex with other girls…
I have said things like, “This isn’t my first time in bed with a girl…” That’s about the level of detail I give up.
I guess I have been asked, in small ways. If I’m talking about if she likes anal (for instance)… it might come up that “I have seen other girls come from that before.” That’s about the extent of it.
But I would never make this about the former girl, just about the current one… turn it toward her/me, which is again… about leading toward where you want to go, not defending yourself against an attack from some sweet/silly girl that doesn’t have the good sense to stay away from questions that might upset her.
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As I think of other ways to address this kind of thing…
“In my experience, girls don’t enjoy this kind of conversation and this isn’t the way I want to spend my time with you… now, turn around and show me my favorite part.”
And then drag her around by her arm and check out her ass.
Even this might be giving the question more time than it merits. But I like the reference to knowing what girls can handle. That is a bit of “daddy game,” where daddy knows best. You’re going meta, making it about her psychology, and that shows some mastery of girls… which might have been what she was looking for from you with the clumbsy poking around questions.
But that 2nd part, physically turning her around and making the conversation about her ass… turning into a proper Cad (as Krauser might do), is the kind of leadership I think that really works with girls/drama. And that caddishness, again, shows the sexual preselection and experience… you are a man that can get away with this, and does this all the time. That answers her question better than showing her old field reports.
There is the direct answer… distract/lead toward what you want. Which for me… is her ass.
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I have had this question a few times, and in a moment of introspection I once tallied my score. Now I just answer the question directly and truthfully. The lady’s response has always been to drop her eyes and change the subject.
Abundance mindset, yes?
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0, -1, 500 million are the only acceptable answers.
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I’ve been a long time reader/lurker, and I have learned so much from the posts and the comments, so thanks, truly. But another way that I have dealt with this other than smirking is the CH “ignore and plow,” literally. In my experience it’s been more fun to bring up exes by mentioning that they were good at something in particular.
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For any N>30, that thought will cross her mind automatically. Winning!
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Her: How many girls have you been with?
Avatar of Kek: Lost count at 147
Her: You’re joking right?
Avatar of Kek: Maybe… Maybe not… *wink* *slap*
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With the woman who I am serious about, I just call her “Number 121” and leave it at that.
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“A normal amount.”
Loled at that
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“How many girls have you been with?”
“Do you mean like in a threesome, or more?”
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“How many? Not sure. But you’re in my top 20.”
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