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Alpha Or Beta?

June 1, 2017 by CH

Ok, now same question, but with the roles reversed: the groom dragging the reluctant bride by her dress collar to the altar.

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  1. on June 1, 2017 at 10:34 am Anonymous

    Both would be Beta. Alphas know not to get married.

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:02 am Jeff

      But I thought Trump was an Alpha.

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      • on June 2, 2017 at 6:20 pm Rebdick

        He’s a perfect mix of alpha and beta.

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      • on June 5, 2017 at 2:07 am Anonymous

        Holy shit Trump is the most dominant alpha male I can think of.

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:36 am Sam

      Not true. If you want to have kids and a wife- someone there in old age- you get married.

      The idea of being a playboy in your 40’s or 50’s is kind of gross, and when you’re 62 all you want to do is sit on the porch with someone you love.

      The “Alpha’s never get married” idea is short sighted and the sign of a bitter, twisted psyche. Which I don’t really blame you for, considering the state of women, but still.

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 12:29 pm Per Desteen

        Marriage is just as an intentional act as mastering game, and is the primary arena for game for a man that desires to build something that will last beyond him.

        Western Civilization requires intentional design and creation of a family that will hand down both assets and ideas. The transmission of ideas fell apart with the “greatest generation”.

        Reclaim it, have a wife, have offspring.

        There’s no other way to be a patriarch.

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 1:17 pm Scoundrel

        “The idea of being a playboy in your 40’s or 50’s is kind of gross”

        Clearly “Sam” is short for “Samantha.”

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 3:06 pm wolfie65

        The term ‘Alpha; is often misinterpreted – and that interpretation tends to change according to the post’s topic or the poster responding.
        Or perhaps mood or moon phases.
        In order to be an Alpha, you must, first and foremost, be the leader of a group, that is requirement 1a.
        As such, you must abide by the group’s rules, lest they turn on you if you get too wacky as leader.
        In human societies, abiding by the rules of the group often means getting m@rr13d to 1 , or, in some societies, several women.
        In short, the Alpha may not have a choice.
        Wasn’t too long a go even in the West that being m@rr13d had a positive influence on one’s career, although that may no longer be the case.

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:55 am Sentient

      The implication is the groom is acting (?) against his will… ergo Beta. Has nothing to do with being married or not.

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 12:21 pm plumpjack

        in addition to ‘the jumbotron test’ as a means to suss out alpha behavior, we need to add “the prison test”: could a guy behave this passively in prison, and not be treated like a bitch?

        groom guy would not pass the prison test.

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 12:24 pm plumpjack

        … a woman’s behavior towards her man is largely determined by the other males competing for her affection.

        guy who’s literally being dragged by his woman into something against his will doesn’t have much of a chance fighting off other males, unless she’s so low-value that no other make want her.

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 12:25 pm plumpjack

        *males want her

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 12:33 pm plumpjack

        or maybe we call it “the somali gang rape test”. does a guy’s behavior towards his woman indicate that he could save her, and himself, from being raped by a mob of somalis? in this case, acting like a submissive wet mop.

        verdict: pray they’re wearing condoms.

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 8:55 pm Vagina dominator

        White knight? Or white man?

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    • on June 2, 2017 at 6:09 pm Rebdick

      Meh

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  2. on June 1, 2017 at 10:34 am everybodyhatesscott

    the groom dragging the reluctant bride by her dress collar to the alta

    That would probably make national news confirming rape culture. Which would be worth it just for the lulz

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  3. on June 1, 2017 at 10:35 am elmertjones

    Builds wife Buddhist shrine
    Then downloads nudie photos
    While she meditates

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 10:37 am elmertjones

      Niggums be useful
      Demonstrates your commitment
      To diversity

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 11:19 am elmertjones

        Your yellow fever
        Can never be satisfied
        TGP clicking…

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 10:39 am elmertjones

      Son called me “pedo”
      Because I mentioned schoolbus
      arrives 2:40

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 9:35 pm Vagina dominator

        ha ha ha!

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 10:44 am elmertjones

      Sad I.T. Niggums
      Just needs a comforting hug
      From a woke white man

      LikeLiked by 1 person


      • on June 1, 2017 at 10:53 am Major7

        for those bad a math
        with difficulty counting
        haiku is hard

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 10:53 am mendo

        Please don’t post that GIF
        It’s not the story of us
        Be better than that.

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:05 am elmertjones

      Internet worthwhile
      But then I masturbated
      Instead of job search

      [CH: you’re on a roll]

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 11:08 am Major7

        awesome

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:06 am elmertjones

      Like the wise old man
      In Flip movie “Sticks of Death”
      Grasshoppers question

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:08 am elmertjones

      Unemployable
      Finds “digital nomad” pic
      Of himself working

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:10 am elmertjones

      Wifey suspicious
      Laughing to myself at lunch
      Because the haikus

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:28 am elmertjones

      A new study shows
      How Salon writers empower
      Women of Color

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:45 am elmertjones

      Wifey does not know
      Even “the Bhudda” would laugh
      At ribald haikus

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:50 am elmertjones

      Use hapless hopefuls
      To get diversity pics
      For career website

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 1:36 pm elmertjones

      Have no more haikus
      Post-nap time loins depleted
      Thanks, my foreign bride

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    • on June 2, 2017 at 6:10 pm Rebdick

      Buddha left his wife and kids. My cuckold Sunday School teacher was jealous.

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  4. on June 1, 2017 at 10:39 am everlastingphelps

    Both beta. I don’t need to drag my wife anywhere (literally or metaphorically) because she is happy to go, just to be with me.

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  5. on June 1, 2017 at 10:39 am mendo

    Groom’s gotta be dragging her by the train on her dress.

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:18 am Captain Obvious

      Courtesy of the art critics at AoSHQ:

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 11:56 am Sentient

        is she riding amy schumer?

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 12:14 pm Nads

        Nope. Looks like Lena to me.

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  6. on June 1, 2017 at 10:44 am Ted Colt

    Here’s a more fundamental question: is it “alpha” to marry?

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  7. on June 1, 2017 at 10:47 am itsme

    honestly the groom looks like one of those non cisgendered freaks

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  8. on June 1, 2017 at 10:47 am plumpjack

    he’s resisting, but he’s not satisfying her either. if you’re using alpha-ish behavior just to be a dud, and not creating anything useful, what’s the point?

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 10:51 am plumpjack

      this seems like a chick thing. maybe the guy really doesn’t care. but i can’t see ‘not caring’ as a useful enterprise. either you give your girl a life plan or you don’t. and if you’re leaving it all up to her, somethin’ ain’t right.

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 11:06 am Cracker

        yeah, i see it as a chick thing too. and a girl who would pick this kind of thing to display on her wedding is probably a ballbuster who wears the pants in the relationship.

        i can just imagine that they are the kind of couple where for almost every decision that has to be made he is always saying stuff like she’s the boss, it’s up to her, that’s what she wants, i’m just going along for the ride, etc.

        in the long run she will resent him and lose respect for him because he is not leading her and makes her be the one to take charge and make all the decisions.

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 11:06 am Cracker

        yeah, i see it as a chick thing too. and a girl who would pick this kind of thing to display on her w3dding is probably a ballbuster who wears the pants in the relationship.

        i can just imagine that they are the kind of couple where for almost every decision that has to be made he is always saying stuff like she’s the boss, it’s up to her, that’s what she wants, i’m just going along for the ride, etc.

        in the long run she will resent him and lose respect for him because he is not leading her and makes her be the one to take charge and make all the decisions.

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 11:08 am CalvinDecline

        But in the end, the alpha dud still gets more play than the busy beta… and more play equals (or used to) potentially more kids which is all the god of bio-mechanics cares about… right?

        I completely understand your angle though, as I almost made the same comment…

        He could just be a reluctant alpha while she’s a red pilled broad wanting to tie the knot and start a family before her man parts ways for greener (read: more barren) pastures.

        And here I am fantasizing about the imaginary life of a cake ornament…. good thing lunch time is over, back to work.

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  9. on June 1, 2017 at 10:49 am Captain Obvious

    Alpha or Beta?

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 10:54 am mendo

      Hubby B looks like a retro Peter Lorre. Look like Peter Lorre had a kid with Chelsea Clinton.

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:13 am Augustus Tilton

      A gets more luv. He has a shitlord asymmetric smirk. B has the neotony thing going on

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:19 am Captain Obvious

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 12:44 pm midnightavej

        I love this so much.

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      • on June 2, 2017 at 1:41 am bolg

        michelle kwan. hahahahaha. amerikwa.

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:24 am jeangray07

      B looks like a pedo. A looks like a homecoming king.

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:39 am sigsawyer

      Not actually all that easy. The left side of A’s face looks afraid and worried- mirror it in photoshop and you’ll see what I mean. If you cover B’s face and just look at the eyes, he has a serene self-confidence. He’s not handsome, but he might be an unassuming player type. A probably has deep-seated psychological issues, but women can be attracted to the damaged alpha who takes his problems out on her.

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 12:30 pm Ironsides

        Agree with sigsawyer — B looks confident and calm. A looks badly screwed up. So A might well have success in keeping a woman for a while because of his violent, unpredictable temper, drinking, whoring around, and general lack of restraint. But the time will be full of verbal and physical fights, cops coming to the house, etc. etc. before they finally split up after making each other miserable for a while.

        B will probably do worse with women but enjoy life more anyway.

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 2:17 pm Cody

        No, easy! Use the Bar Brawl test – A looks like he would sit at the same table, swap war stories and swill gallons of whiskey, and be an asset in a bar fight. B looks like he would run his smarmy cock holster until his teeth get relocated by anybody within arms reach, and wouldn’t raise a hand to physically defend his fellow whimpering, mouthy, Shirley Temple drinking companions !

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      • on June 2, 2017 at 1:40 am bolg

        a’s facial asymmetry is probably due to neurological damage, maybe sports trauma. the guy looks absolutely fine.

        b’s eyes, oh boy. a cow in love

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    • on June 2, 2017 at 8:37 am Chuck Steak

      Husband B has a fat look despite being a skinny dweeb. Not a good look. You have to be pretty masculine to pull of the round face balding look (and it can be done).

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  10. on June 1, 2017 at 10:50 am Alpha Or Beta? | @the_arv

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  11. on June 1, 2017 at 10:53 am Lara

    Neither, kind of tacky actually

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:05 am goingtothefields

      Agreed. This kind of stuff is passed off as harmless fun, poking fun at groomz, but there always truth in humor. Anyone who jokes about a woman who has to drag a guy down the aisle would do well to run away from her.

      Life and great sex aren’t over after marriage. Unless you let it be over.

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  12. on June 1, 2017 at 11:05 am Akuma

    Alpha. She wants him all to herself so his dragging him away from the other girls. She probably has a high digit ratio too.

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:59 am Sentient

      Not alpha if it is against his will… being dragged… no.

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 12:49 pm Drifting in the Breeze

        Maybe he’s just making her prove she’s worth it? Qualification?

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  13. on June 1, 2017 at 11:05 am jon3

    In this specific context it can lean towards Alpha because he’s the one being dragged into the marriage probably because he’s reluctant like most Alphas are to be locked down. (oh and btw, don’t get married)

    If the roles were reversed you might think Alpha because “ooga booga man drags woman” but it’s deeper than that. It’s Beta because the man is the one trying to lock down the woman. Scarcity mentality.

    [CH: this is my opinion as well. but for the sake of a healthy society, the best cake topping should be the traditional one — groom and bride side by side, venturing forth together.]

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:34 am mendo

      If you’re gonna bite the bullet, go big for go home:

      [CH: verdict: alpha]

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      • on June 1, 2017 at 12:20 pm Nads

        Why aren’t his pants around his ankles?

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      • on June 2, 2017 at 1:41 am Me

        I know someone who is using this very same cake topper in August…CH the girl is always hitting on the guys friends (that includes my bf..grr)…so look at how the girl is showing of her dominant sexuality in that cake topper

        I say being dragged is Alpha, this display of a girls hot legs is Beta…discuss!

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      • on June 2, 2017 at 1:42 am Me

        The girl using this cake topper is also wait for it…

        A Single Mom.

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      • on June 2, 2017 at 7:39 pm Anonymous

        As illustrated by folk:

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  14. on June 1, 2017 at 11:07 am Deplorabard

    An alpha would be dragging her by the pussy

    [CH: 100% TRUEFACT]

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:35 am mendo

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  15. on June 1, 2017 at 11:08 am Augustus Tilton

    Bride dragging groom reeks of beta because it implies to me a woman out of options twisting a hapless man’s arm to wife her up. Happens to betas all the time.

    Groom dragging bride would clearly be alpha. it implies a man taking what is his, harkening to more barbabric (ie enlightened) times when a young man kidnapped his woman to make her his own.

    Marriage is not beta if you see your wife primarily as the keeper of the hearth&home and the vector for your legitimate heirs while casting your eye about for side action as the fancy takes you.

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  16. on June 1, 2017 at 11:09 am Hackett To Bits

    Alpha. She slipped a tranquilizer in his drink.

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    • on June 1, 2017 at 11:11 am Ironsides

      I wish the like function worked on here for me, because I’d like this comment. Repeatedly, were that possible.

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  17. on June 1, 2017 at 11:19 am Odysseus

    both dudes are indeed alpha (somewhat lesser due to marriage, yes), but alpha nonetheless. The first obvi doesn’t want to be married, and the second is like a clueless caveman. Betas in contrast would be willingly standing on cake with toothy grin, without physically imposing will on girl

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  18. on June 1, 2017 at 11:19 am Jimi2x

    The worse thing about this is the groom’s beta af face…sobbing..signalling significant weakness.
    Better if he was expressionless and holding an empty bottle of booze.
    And him dragging her would be beta too..for reasons like ‘why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?’

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  19. on June 1, 2017 at 11:41 am sigsawyer

    Super Alpha: A groom with a heavy sack on his back.

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  20. on June 1, 2017 at 11:43 am Lance Draper

    this is the sort of thing that a beta man would think is alpha.

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  21. on June 1, 2017 at 12:22 pm HEM

    Both beta..

    1) alphas don’t have big weddings. Every extravagant, expensive wedding (and cake with figurines) is a chick’s doing with her beta’s compliance.

    2) an alpha knows the only reason to marry is for the sake of his children. No big theatrics (small ceremony of close friends, trip to Vegas, courthouse wedding, etc). The wife is emotionally ecstatic just to take his name and the upgraded label of wife as opposed to “baby mamma.” Her biggest fear was she was going to have children out of wedlock because Mr Alpha wouldn’t settle down (quit partying and fucking other chicks). Any childless dude who gets married is definitively a beta.

    3) alphas don’t do PDA. Another sure sign of a beta male is during the “you can now kiss the bride”.. If the dude is all liplocked in a pathetic movie scene inspired 5 seconds or greater kiss – guaranteed beta. He’ll spend the evening eating at the Y and not pounding the pie.

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  22. on June 1, 2017 at 12:46 pm Haven M.

    channel ferris bueller. Marrying the first girl you lay is beta. An alpha chooses the choice cut of meat to marry.

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  23. on June 1, 2017 at 12:55 pm Anonymous

    Alpha context is that she wants him more than he wants her. The beta one has already been hashed out in previous comments – that she can boss him around, force him to do stuff, etc.

    Another alpha context is this very conversation in the woman’s head – “what did that cake ornament at our wedding MEAN? Did he want to submit to me? Did he really love me?”

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  25. on June 1, 2017 at 3:13 pm wolfie65

    I vote drunk.
    I danced with a girl (HS athlete, 6+) a few nights ago who could have dragged most men.

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  26. on June 1, 2017 at 3:39 pm traitors first

    wait ……… I thought the 13th amendment banned such activities

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  27. on June 2, 2017 at 1:33 am bolg

    she’s dragging away an effigy of him in front of friends and family and he stands for it. “beta” is not descriptive enough.

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  28. on June 2, 2017 at 7:52 am Ironsides

    The decoration in the original post just doesn’t make sense. Even betas are essentially the pursuers of the woman — it’s just that they do it from a position of needy supplication instead of dominance and mastery.

    No woman would want a man who left all the aggression up to her — not even a wall-approaching wench scouting for a beta provider.

    So it seems impossible to classify as alpha or beta. The alpha wouldn’t allow himself to be dragged; the beta would be streaking to the altar, panting and slobbering and wetting himself in delight at the opportunity to subordinate himself to a woman and give her full access to his wallet, possessions, and the fawning respect that she pretends to like but is secretly repulsed by.

    My summary of the initial picture is therefore “Does not compute.”

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  29. on June 2, 2017 at 2:45 pm senseiern

    Beta. An alpha will NOT allow himself to be humiliated.

    Reverse roles, Alpha.

    Women want to be dominated, but won’t admit it openly. So, a cake witg a wife being dragged by a groom would get geers but the groom will be getting bridesmaids poon while the bride is dancing with her father.

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  30. on June 2, 2017 at 6:19 pm Rebdick

    Getting married is beta.

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  31. on June 2, 2017 at 7:35 pm Anonymous

    Beta. This panda wouldn’t do that.

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  32. on June 11, 2017 at 8:30 am Mean Mr. Mustard

    The first comment to this article is epic.

    http://www.theage.com.au/comment/the-10-things-i-have-learnt-from-midlife-online-dating-20170607-gwmx1i.html

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