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Islam As Anti-Christianity

June 7, 2017 by CH

Lawrence Auster (RIP, a true shtetl of mettle mensch), discussed William Muir’s 1878 The Life of Mahomet and drew the apt comparison that Muhammed was essentially the opposite of Jesus, the anti-Jesus, and that this says everything you need to know about the type of people who are drawn to the message of Islam. (via)

I’ve just read the fascinating third chapter of William Muir’s 1878 The Life of Mahomet, “The Belief of Mahomet in His Own Inspiration.” In the great tradition of 19th century scholarship, Muir is an author who sees both the trees and the forest. He works closely from the original sources, presenting the facts about Mahomet (I’ll use Muir’s old-fashioned spelling here) as we have them from the Moslem tradition, while also offering his own critical assessment of those facts. He has a highly articulated point of view about Mahomet that seems to me exceptionally insightful.

Muir shows how Mahomet became convinced, or claimed, that his own thoughts were Allah speaking to him, so that every sentence in the Koran, every single word, is believed to come directly from Allah. While Muir doesn’t deny Mahomet’s spiritual experiences that led to the writing of the Koran, he calls Mahomet’s claim of divine authorship a forgery, since he was falsely claiming that Allah was the author of the Koran rather than himself. By placing this divine imprimatur on his own thoughts, he made them impervious to analysis. To this day, it is virtually impossible for Moslems to think critically about the contents of the Koran.

After pointing out that Mahomet himself occasionally worried that it was genii who were speaking to him rather than Allah, Muir does something rather brilliant. He demonstrates, step by step, that Jesus’ responses to the three temptations of Satan were the exact opposite of Mahomet’s behavior. Whereas Jesus refused to use his divine powers for his personal advantage or for power, Mahomet often used his (false) claim of direct divine authorship of the Koran for purely personal ends (such as his various murders and marriages), and, of course, to make his religious teaching into an earthly, conquering, political force. In other words, Mahomet yielded to the temptations that Jesus rejected. Therefore, Muir concludes (and he calls this a suggestion rather than a dogma), if Mahomet was indeed inspired by a supernatural being, it was not God but someone else.

In this connection, Andrew Bostom in his research for his book on Islam has discovered and shared with me a remarkable Persian illustration of Muhammad at the massacre of the Koreizites, a Jewish tribe of Medina. It’s a famous episode in Muslim history. Muhammad, whose face is veiled, is seen sitting with his lieutenants in a kind of plaza while the killings, which he has ordered, proceed in front of him. The illustration is highly significant because it shows Muhammad “at work,” as it were. This is what he did as Prophet and founder of a religion. Nothing could bring out more clearly the world of difference between Muhammad and Jesus. While Jesus, innocent of sin, allowed himself to be executed for the sins of mankind, Muhammad ordered the mass executions of innocent men.

Getting back to William Muir’s remarkable biography, he quotes and comments on many passages from the Koran, making that book somewhat accessible to me for the first time, since whenever I have tried to read it on my own, I’ve been quickly overcome by a combination of boredom and revulsion. It occurs to me that the primitiveness of the Koran, the endless reiteration of the theme, “Either you follow Allah, or you are a piece of garbage and you are going to burn in hell,” is like taking the judgmental aspect of the Hebrew and Christian scriptures at its most judgmental, reworking it into the crudest possible form, and making that into the basis of an entire religion. And perhaps that is the reason Islam, unlike Judaism and Christianity, was so successful in winning over the Arabs: it appealed to their simple, fierce, tribal mentality in a way that Judaism and Christianity could not.

Why are the world’s violent and primitive attracted to Islam? Executioner’s Summary: it’s Islam’s appeal to the base instincts. The sand people are on the whole a stupid, clannish, hot-headed, inbred lot who have populated the world in numbers well above their natural state of existence thanks to the oil money and exported Western technology, and so it is their religion appeases and amplifies their under-evolved natures and provides justification for their burgeoning populations to expand and conquer infidel lands. You’ll note, too, Islam’s appeal to prison blacks, for similar reason: dr. feelgood and Hulk SMASH for the brutishly dumb.

Christianity is the religion of the higher IQ, the more empathic, the bigger-souled, the guilt-based (inner morality); it’s a religion for a people whose impulse is to transcend their human failings and better themselves, rather than to embrace their will to filth and stamp a seal of approval on their avaricious barbarity. Now of course there are exceptions, but in the sweep of history the general observation holds up, and continues to hold up.

I’m of the opinion that a religion is less an influence on culture and society than it is a manifest revelation of the genetic foundation of the people who profess belief in it. Religion serves the God of Biomechanics, not the other way around, and over time a religion is amended and elaborated, or in the case of Islam distilled to its thuggish essence, to satisfy the soulful yearnings and emotional demands of its followers. Christianity, in other words, could never be felt the same way or interpreted with the same keenness outside of the social context of civilized White Europeans and their diaspora. The same is true for Islam, which must necessarily remain chained to the jungle hearts of its tropical and desert wasteland base of believers (who will never realize this until they force Armageddon upon the world).

Regrettably, Christianity, like its people, has “out-evolved” itself — it evolved to where it was always logically heading faster and more completely than it could counter-evolve defenses against exploitation of its core tenets — and now waits in a horribly weakened condition for enemies to burn its cathedrals and piss on the gravestones of its saints and heroes.

Those who think the White West can be unyoked from Christianity and not just survive but thrive are fools; Christianity can no more be excised from the West than charity, empathy, genius, poetry, and high trust can be cut out from Western societies without permanently altering the character of the people. Discarding Christianity is taking a hatchet to a part of the essence of European man and expecting him to walk off the operating table unchanged. Instead, what’s happened is de-Christianized European man lays naked and defenseless on his gurney, once lamenting and now begging the world’s demon spawn to put the final fading glimmers of his listless spirit to the breaking wheel.

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  1. on June 7, 2017 at 1:08 pm tomjones

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:32 pm Greg Eliot

      Why don’t you just post Bill Maher’s entire film of Religulous, or whatever the hell it was called?

      It would be just as convincing as the other inane youtubbytubers you post… maybe even moreso, amirite?

      (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 2:48 pm tomjones

        good idea!

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 9:29 pm Vagina dominator

      There is a part of our minds which we use in order to consider things in a state of suspended disbelief.

      It is this part of our mind that enables us to enjoy a silly movie or an unlikely tale or a joke or to speculate about the universe.

      We also use it to consider alternative viewpoints and theses and speculate about alternative courses of action, perhaps laying aside for the moment our kneejerk reactions so that we can think an idea right through.

      This is not just our imagination, although that is part of it. This is something different and is an important human critical faculty.

      This critical faculty allows me to ponder and even accept ludicrously unlikely things such as the idea of a rational economic man, that there is such a thing as ceritus paribus, or a balanced economic model, or an economy with free inputs, or that here could exist an honest politician, an educated public, and so on. This part of the mind might also wonder about the existence of a wise and benevolent creator.

      Everybody has this part of the mind and the well developed habit of using it to cultivate unlikely speculations. These speculations quite often escape from that theme park of thought and into the thinking of daily life where impossible things like equalism become confirmed beliefs.

      .Atheists of the “you believe in the flying spaghetti monster” internet tough guy type believe they are not prone to this and are always and all times endlessly rational. They are the biggest idiots of all.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 9:31 pm Vagina dominator

        These kinds also often have no sense of humor.

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      • on June 11, 2017 at 11:49 pm Paul Murray

        It is the mark of an educated man that he can entertain an idea without necessarily letting it move in and set up house.

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  2. on June 7, 2017 at 1:14 pm barbaresco

    Religion, at its most fundamental, is the sanctification of a people’s idealized ethics. As Aquinas said, it is most useful in teaching morality to the next generations without having to “prove” each time that murder is bad, that rape is immoral, that killing your parents is not swell, etc. (OK, I’m paraphrasing). Look at Christianity and Islam–and draw a conclusion at which set of morals is superior and more evolved than the other. And to those who point to sins committed by Christians throughout the centuries, I’d say this: which part of “idealized ethics” don’t you understand? At least we aspire to be that good–in spite of being a fallen race.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 3:55 pm LeShitlourde

      Can we also address how omega Muslim men are? They are bona fide omegas for the most part.

      Western beta males at least have enough grace to defer to alphas when they lose out romantically. Muslim men are like the omegas with kidnapping fantasies: they throw bags over women’s heads because they’re too insecure when literally almost any other male comes near their war pig.

      They butcher both women’s genitals and their sons to “reign in sexual impurity”. AKA, because they have no game at all, the only way they can fend off Interlopers is to mutilate their women so they don’t enjoy sex with anyone (the childish idea that everyone should be as miserable as they are).

      Plus, terrorism is omega. They fight like cowards because they are too stupid and violent to build real nations that can defend themselves.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 4:42 pm Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

      Hate to ask…

      If Christianity is the slave religion of “turn the other cheek” and “the meek will inherit the earth” and Islam is the anti-Christianity, then which of these two is for the take-no-prisoners-conquerors, the Shit-Lords?

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 6:18 pm wolfie65

        Jud@i$m is the ‘religion’ of the Middle Eastern Gamma bidnedmen string-pullers.
        Chr1stian1ty is a Middle Eastern virus deliberately designed by them to turn the European conquerors and sh1tlords into Beta cucks – which has worked like gangbusters.
        Islam is the ‘religion’ of their Middle Eastern brethren who have a VERY high percentage of Omega psychop@ths among their ranks and deliberately designed to take full advantage of those traits -possibly brought on by all the cousinf_ck1ng.
        All 3 are poison, from the same well.

        Rediscover your roots and all will make a LOT more sense.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 9:32 pm LeShitlourde

        That’s why I like more pagan focus to white nationalism. It’s fine to have a place for Christianity, though.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 11:12 am ultimathule1

        For the Middle East the religion of the take-no-prisoners conquering shitlords is Islam, but for us White Devils from Europe it’s the cult of our sacred bloodlines, and of the soil that is sanctified by the bones of our Ancestors, and of the Gods of war, fertility and honor.

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      • on June 9, 2017 at 1:59 pm Song For the Deaf

        No need to antagonize our Christian brothers on the right, but yeah. Islam’s the religion for slave masters. Of course, they used plenty of Muslim slaves as well.

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  3. on June 7, 2017 at 1:19 pm Sigma K

    Brigitte explains this.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:56 pm mendo

      Ugly broad but sweet cleavage. Looks like she’s always got it on display.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 2:58 pm itsme

        she has to, nobody would pay attention to her otherwise

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:57 pm itsme

      i could not hear her over the roar of her boobies

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 9:34 pm Vagina dominator

      Her nipples grow hair.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 10:38 pm V.

      This is the future the shitlibs cannot wait for: the eevil white majority dispossessed by rapidly multiplying non-WASP invaders, damned be the consequences. Because original sin IS the Christian original sin: humans are inherently, naturally good and only environment, culture and OPPRESHUN lead them to do mean things. Even the old, much-hated ‘melting pot’ concept is quaintly bigoted because assimilation implies what’s inside isn’t good enough, isn’t right, isn’t valuable. So please, would-be completely culturally incompatible emigrants: come as you are.

      “I did not raise you to hate… hate destroys the hater.” – powerful words said by no Muslim ever

      I do take some issue with her statement that 9/11 happened because we’re infidels. That’s the neocon answer (“they hate our way of life”). That we’re infidels didn’t help, but al-Qaeda had a laundry list of semi-legitimate grievances, namely the foreign military presence in their holy land. We need to shut down immigration (esp. Muslim), for sure, but we also need to get the feck out of the Middle East. (Really, what the fuck is the liberal explanation for the recent spare of terrorist attacks? And our response should just more “tolerance” and “solidarity”? WTF???)

      “Be kind as doves, and wise as serpents.” – important emphasis. The West has indeed forgotten the second half. Turn the other cheek = bend over.

      ya ya, quite a pair. bit showy but not bad for 48. Good video though. Lebanon is one of the few ME countries I’d be interested in visiting… maybe too late, though.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 10:43 pm V.

        – “recent *spate* of terrorist attacks”
        damn autocorrect

        – “our response should just *be* more…”
        damn alcohol

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  4. on June 7, 2017 at 1:20 pm Islam As Anti-Christianity | @the_arv

    […] Islam As Anti-Christianity […]

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  5. on June 7, 2017 at 1:24 pm Akuma

    Even Malcom X didn’t like them in his final days.

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    • on June 8, 2017 at 7:38 am RALPH, A MALE.

      Could you provide me with a source? I’d be interested in knowing more.

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  6. on June 7, 2017 at 1:25 pm Ironsides

    It’s tempting but … naaaaaaaaah. Sitting this one out.

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  7. on June 7, 2017 at 1:26 pm Jax

    Agreed. Christianity is in the fiber of who we are as the West. To remove it is to try and remove the very DNA that makes up the west. The foundations of our western societies and cultures are built on Christianity. It gave us structure and purpose. It made us, US.

    What the faith needs is a reinvention, and it has happened many times over the course of its evolution. It needs to return to a time where basic survival of the faith was paramount and the driving force in its existence. It needs to recognize an existential threat and respond accordingly. It has happened before….

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 4:18 pm Amasius

      “Christianity is in the fiber of who we are as the West.”

      What fucking garbage. The ARYAN FAUSTIAN TEMPERAMENT is the fiber of the west. The Greeks and Romans? the Celts and the Norse? The Aryans of the Steppes? No jew shit there, buddy. Whatever we did we did IN SPITE of (((Christianity))), not because of it.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 4:49 pm Jax

        Hahaha OK Aryan snowflake. Get over your butthurt Aryan feels. Just because you have some personal vendetta with the religion doesn’t mean it didn’t play its part in building the west.

        The tribes of Europa were so civilized before Christianity arrived? Civil society, science, and technology, were all flourishing in pre-Christian Germany, England, France, and Scandinavia? Art and history were just so well documented and established weren’t they? The Aryan Faustian temperament sure didn’t seem to do to well in the Dark Ages. Don’t be such an idiot.

        The Celts, Picts, Gauls, varying German tribes, and Norse were tribal and even referred to as barbarians. And frankly, behaved the same way those current Muslims behave in the Middle East. Killing, pillaging, raping, moving from land to land. Christianity established order and provided the foundations for civil society which would give rise to the European states that currently exist. The Aryan Faustian temperament you’re so fond of was able to excel and flourish because of Christianity not in spite of it.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 6:01 pm Amasius

        The legacy of the Roman Empire (which (((Christianity))) hijacked) is what “civilized” the “barbarians.” And why are you shitting on the “dark ages”? That was the high water mark for you Christians. And why are you shitting on the Aryans for being fighters and conquerors? Aren’t we in favor of masculinity around here? What the hell is all of this?

        Christianity laid the foundations of civil society? Germanic law, anyone? The Althing? You know nothing of your own heritage. It’s miserable.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 6:23 pm wolfie65

        Snowflake ?
        Well, snowflakes are nice and enough snowflakes make an avalanche.
        Never ceases to amaze (sorry, it fits) me how fiercely the Chr1stcucks will defend the indefensible, just so they don’t have to admit to themselves that the entire foundation of everything they’ve had drilled into their skulls from the cr@dle has been nothing but a bunch of filthy Middle Eastern lies, perpetrated by the very people they h@t3 so much, yet find themselves forced to defend because they created their religion……

        Whites, reconnect with your REAL roots.
        You’ll feel much freer.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 9:51 pm Vagina dominator

        @ wolfie “‘Reconnect with our real roots”

        Hard to say what they are. Much as I like a nicely painted cathedral or a Renaissance ensemble, few medieval- renaissance peasants ever saw or heard either. This is the “white culture” people are so proud of. But whose culture is it really? Isn’t it a little expensive and inaccessible for the average sodbuster?

        The cultural roots of most of us – my roots on the Irish side – were to plant calf-deep in mud, rising with the dawn and resting with the dark, no books, primitive country music, draughts of home brewed ale, slaughtering animals to mark the passing of the seasons, and laying aside for the winter.

        The priest, if there was one, was the sucker on the end of a long tentacle reaching all the way back to Rome, where fat people in satin gowns directed manouvers to keep the wealth of empires in the hands of their dynastic clients.

        Great composers composed and great painters painted for them, not for me.

        Where is my culture? Broadcast visions of the sybaritic lives of the nobility of hollywood? Bombastic chimps swaying back and forth making gang signs?

        It seems to me that my traditional culture is to have my excess stolen to pay for the culture of others who then tell me it is our “shared” culture. People believe this.

        Your culture is what you do and consume everyday and who benefits from it, and whether it is you and yours or someone distant. If it is someone distant, then yours is a slave culture.

        That is it. My culture does not consist of the enjoyments of some metropolitan elite with its hands in my pockets.Fuck that Jew and his traitorous friends at the top.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 7:45 am wolfie65

        VagDom – If your roots are Irish, there are a VAST multitude of books available that deal with Celtic culture in general, Irish in particular, covering just about every subject from religion to music to daily life and history.
        If you haven’t already, you could start with stuff like the Finn McCool sagas (the basis for the King Arthur legends), CuChulainn, you’ve got a rich pantheon of g0ds, g0dd3sses and heroic figures to learn about, you could easily fill an entire house with nothing but books about Ireland and things Irish.
        Ditto for music, while most of the truly traditional Celtic music may have been destroyed by Rome and their (((Cuckstian handlers))), you can still hear traces in what we call ‘traditional Irish music’ today.
        Take up the tin whistle, Uillean pipes, bodhran or play some Celtic tunes on your guitar.
        You could even try your hand at some sodbusting, if you live in an apartment, it’ll have to be small scale, like an herb garden or a tomato plant in a south-facing window.
        Maybe there’s a community garden in your area.
        If you’re in the country – well, sky’s the limit.
        If so inclined, buy some toy soldiers (Airfix Ancient Britons go for about $ 7 a box) and paint them up.
        If this inspires you to some martial training – which may come in VERY handy – so much the better.
        Learn Gaelic, there are a variety of courses available, you could even start right now, taking your first steps towards reclaiming your linguistic heritage by watching basic introductions to Gaelic on YouTube.
        There are MANY ways to rediscover your true heritage and kick the Middle Eastern habit.

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  8. on June 7, 2017 at 1:29 pm J.Ross

    Leftists like to point out that “Europe was the Wild West of Asia for most of history” (Chomsky) and Christianity saw a lot of wars. This is totally disingenuous. Crucially, Christianity came to a point where it learned from its fratricide and created the Peace of Westphalia and various forms of secularism. Islam never did. The lesson the Muslim took from religious conflict was that it is fun and profitable (but you need to occasionally pretend to accept peace in order to rest), and that lesson is still taught today. University-educated know-nothings understand “secularism” as a triumph of Enlightenment atheists over Dark Age cultists: in reality it is an expressly Christian phenomenon, a way to use the European innovation of the Agora to look past unresolvable sectarian differences. This is exactly why totalitarian Muslims consistently fail to comprehend it properly. Muslims in the West seem to understand “secularism” to mean that they can do whatever they want without criticism.
    It is important that the Christian wars were actually about religion: that’s highly unusual for religious wars, which are normally tribal turf disputes employing theology-free faith symbols as colored bandanas. Given such fetishism a superficially-religious war is truly divorced from any philosophical underpinning and is free to churn on forever without a qualm.
    Really this is the same thing as effortful Hollywood-produced whining about American slavery, colonialism, etc: the best actor has to be crucified for the same damn thing the whole class was doing, and which he actually stopped, while we say nothing about the historical crimes of nonwhites.

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    • on June 8, 2017 at 12:37 pm Oleaginous Outrager

      Leftists like to point out that “Europe was the Wild West of Asia for most of history”

      That’s not disingenuous, it’s flat out wrong.

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  9. on June 7, 2017 at 1:36 pm ML

    LOL. Piousness at the Chateau … gross.

    [CH: you misspelled pryousness]

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 1:46 pm tomjones

      Btw, any serious Catholic would be incredibly offended by this:
      “Best part of this photo is the Holy See delegation just behind the right shoulder of Papua John’s double peckeroni pizza roll. Holy Seeeeeeiiittt!”

      This might be the most blasphemous thing I’ve ever heard. “pizza roll” (his cock) and Holy See (The Roman House of Baby Jesus) don’t belong in the same sentence. Then, he turns the See part of Holy See into shit.

      In Early Modern Europe, they would have beheaded and burned CH.

      [CH: all is forgiven when my inquisitors have truly subversive elements against which to compare my irreverence.]

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 1:54 pm safespaceplaypen

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 2:06 pm vfm#7634

        The ex-Holy See hasn’t been holy since 1958, when the shitlib cardinal Roncalli (“John XXIII”) and his allies took over the place in a palace coup. Where have you been all this time?

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 2:10 pm tomjones

        The ex-Holy See hasn’t been holy since the White Man adopted a jewish desert cult.

        [CH: and improved upon it (the bar was low)]

        Btw, Jesus was the Original Cuckold: “And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.”

        [where’s a money-changer whip when you need one?]

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 2:20 pm Greg Eliot

        Say there, no-bones jones… was your use the phrase “jewish desert cult” merely an homage to Sardines below… or did you just tell on your lame-ass, sock-puppeting self?

        I tend to think the latter… made all the more douche-chill worthy by hitting Like on your own sock-puppet.

        (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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  10. on June 7, 2017 at 1:37 pm Goo Shooter

    Christian Theology is the grandmother of Bolshevism – Oswald Spengler

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 1:58 pm safespaceplaypen

      lol there’s a lot of different Christian Theologies, all of which have been the grandmother’s to a lot of different ideas, some good and some bad. What’s your point?

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:30 pm Greg Eliot

      Splitting an atom can be used to power entire cities, or blow them up.

      Don’t blame Mankind’s machinations and missteps on God.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 6:11 pm Goo Shooter

        When taken to its logical conclusions what more could be expected besides suicidal altruism and ethnic cuckholdry?

        The faith’s universality–in an age of intercontinental travel, fiat currency, mass media, antibiotics, and mass democracy–has been its undoing. The churches champion open borders, 3rd world aid, refugees, and our demise! They call it godly. MLK appealed to a Christian nation; our grandparents turned the other cheek, so now we have to spread ours.

        Christianity in all its variants is a universal creed, it fails–unlike Judaism–to account for the who, whom. That is the reason Sweden has rapefugees and Israel has a border wall.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 6:15 pm Captain Obvious

        GS, there’s no question but that Masculine Tribalism pwns Feminine Universalism, every time it’s tried.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 8:36 pm tomjones

        That’s some impressive logic from Goo Shooter.

        Checkmate.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 2:41 am Ripp

        “our grandparents turned the other cheek, so now we have to spread ours.”

        LOLZ.

        A superb summation of the challenges us white folk are enduring.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 11:45 am safespaceplaypen

        “When taken to its logical conclusions what more could be expected besides suicidal altruism and ethnic cuckoldry?”

        lol, what are these logical conclusions you speak of? Please extrapolate on them and tell us how you derived them, otherwise it seems like you’re (((critiquing))) for the sake of destabilization rather than providing useful, correct solutions.

        “Christianity in all its variants is a universal creed, it fails–unlike Judaism–to account for the who, whom.”

        lol, Christianity isn’t merely a “creed”. It’s a set of historical occurrences that have relation to the purpose of human existence. There’s are a lot more to Christianity than just it’s moral principles.

        if you’re going to (((critique))) Christianity, please name an alternative ethical-system/religion that

        (a) is true,
        (b) IS NOT universal, and
        (c) applies specifically to europeans/whites

        I’m sure everyone here is welcomed to hear you’re answer lol

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 11:49 am safespaceplaypen

        @Goo Shooter

        (((Critiques))) something for the sake of it (destabilization)…

        without providing useful and truthful alternatives or solutions

        hmmm….

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 3:08 pm Carlos Danger

      Basic misunderstanding here. Christianity is about equal access to resources and not taking far more than you need so there is enough for all. It is voluntary and based on thinking beyond oneself, not forced equality through distribution of rationed quantities.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 4:05 pm Amasius

      “Christian Theology is the grandmother of Bolshevism – Oswald Spengler”

      Both of jewish origin, along with Islam (Hagarism). Jews really know how to appeal to the shitty masses.

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  11. on June 7, 2017 at 1:39 pm safespaceplaypen

    OT: what is the heartistian view of the White Sharia meme? Good analogy for white patriarchy or bad meme run amok?

    I lean towards the former. But it’s shown to trip hysterics in a few female alt-right personalities lol

    [CH: it’s amusing, but memetically i don’t think it’ll have legs. too much stream-crossing. for real, i do think female sexuality has to be more restricted by a return to older social mores, even if that would mean a buzzkill for womanizers like myself. big time crises are at stake now.]

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 6:13 pm Captain Obvious

      “female sexuality has to be more restricted by a return to older social mores, even if that would mean a buzzkill for womanizers like myself”

      Verily, the times they are a-changing.

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  12. on June 7, 2017 at 1:45 pm Major7

    I’m wondering now how much the Christian veneration of martyrdom has affected the West. The de-Christianized West is still living within the hollowed out shell of Christendom. If this faith speaks most deeply to European Man, maybe the echoes of the martyrs still speaks to us, but without Christ we’re just perverting it into cowardice.

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  13. on June 7, 2017 at 1:50 pm Haven M.

    It is tiring to pretend the two religions represent the same god…or God. There’s no overlap. We’ve been polite in pretending so, because our religion is charitable that way. also the taqiyya

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 4:07 pm notafeminist

      Recall how Pope Benedict was excoriated in his Regnesburg Address for citing Emperor Manual II Paleologos of the Byzantine Empire circa 7th century or so, who observed, “Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached,” in some translations, and “there you will find the work of the devil.” So yeah, not the same.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 4:20 pm Haven M.

        the old popes knew what was up. Of course, it took having 2/3 of christianity fall under the sword before they asked for, ahhhh, international aid.

        Best bet?

        Can we bring in the Spanish model? How did they de-wog themselves?

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 12:13 am Heinrich

        We spoke about the Regensburg lecture several months ago.

        http://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/speeches/2006/september/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20060912_university-regensburg.html

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 12:14 am Heinrich

        Pay attention: The official English translation is faulty. Core words like ” “Schlechtes und Inhumanes” [referring to Is lam] are wrongly translated with “ev*il and inhu man”. Correct translation is: “bad and inhu man e”. The faulty translation was done by purpose. The old pÖpe was legit and not a slave or stooge.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 12:16 am Heinrich

        “Show me just what Muh-am*mad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhu man, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached”

        Keep in mind that big parts of the Church have been corrupted by the enemy. The Occidental Observer has very good articles about this.

        http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/

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  14. on June 7, 2017 at 1:52 pm Sardines

    “Those who think the White West can be unyoked from Christianity and not just survive but thrive are fools; Christianity can no more be excised from the West than charity, empathy, genius, poetry, and high trust can be cut out from Western societies without permanently altering the character of the people. ”

    What an absurd statement. Seems to imply those traits weren’t an aspect of european man before romans politicized and westernized a jewish desert cult.

    The “West” can’t fall fast enough if that’s what it’s built upon.

    [CH: i didn’t say those traits were nonexistent before christianity; i said christianity was an inevitable co-evolving social manifestation of the European character, and that like those other traits christianity had become, and was fated to become, an essential strand of the euro fabric.]

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:01 pm safespaceplaypen

      “Seems to imply those traits weren’t an aspect of european man before romans politicized and westernized a jewish desert cult.”

      lol they weren’t

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:08 pm vfm#7634

      If the choice is Christianity or shitlib Postchristianity, I’ll take the former any day.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 4:09 am Les Saunders, Protestant

        Bingo. Nature abhors a vacuum. And so bachelors, but I digress.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:15 pm Greg Eliot

      This idea that Christianity merely “stuck” in the West is because the “Romans politicized and westernized a jewish desert cult” is just so much folderol.

      Anything of such little merit would have perished long ago.

      European Man was either pretty damn smart or, like our enemies claim, merely lucky and succeeded in spite of his shortcomings, and deserves to perish now.

      Can’t have it BOTH ways, yeggs.

      On a side note, imagine what sort of society you would rather live in, were it not for Satan and his minions looking to do us harm.

      Would you want everyone to behave in the proverbial “Christian” manner?

      Or would you prefer having to look over your shoulder every waking moment?

      Would you prefer to give your neighbor, who himself acts like a member of your family, the shirt off your back and help him whenever you could?

      Or would you rather say fuck him, and smirk at his trouble, as you went back in the house and watched tripe on the tube and drunk your beer while he struggled with his task at hand?

      Would you prefer the next guy living by a dog-eat-dog philosophy, or would you like him to at least feel guilty about pulling any underhanded stunts?

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 2:30 pm tomjones

        ‘Would you want everyone to behave in the proverbial “Christian” manner?’

        Whites have behaved the same way (more or less) from Classical antiquity to 2017. With or without christian “teachings”.

        ‘Would you prefer to give your neighbor, who himself acts like a member of your family, the shirt off your back and help him whenever you could?’

        Whites helped their neighbors from Classical antiquity to 2017. With or without christian “teachings”.

        ‘would you like him to at least feel guilty about pulling any underhanded stunts?’

        Whites felt guilt about pulling any underhanded stunts from from Classical antiquity to 2017. With or without christian “teachings”.

        You failed. Avaunt you fairy.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 2:37 pm Greg Eliot

        The fail remains yours, jonesy.

        If what you’re saying is we were all Christians before Christianity anyway, and Christianity didn’t make us, we made it, well…

        Why then diss Christianity as a mere “jewish desert cult” when, by your own words, it was the manifestation of who WE were, all along?

        /Drops mike rape!

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 2:46 pm tomjones

        ‘If what you’re saying is we were all Christians before Christianity anyway’

        Nope. I am saying we were all white before Christianity.

        Whites behave in a white way. They haven’t changed much since their earliest. The same ethical codes in their DNA.

        What part of religion is retarded don’t you understand?

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 3:01 pm Major7

        jonesy, you can’t be that ignorant. Greg, hat tip for using the word folderol.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 3:38 pm safespaceplaypen

        “Whites have behaved the same way (more or less) from Classical antiquity to 2017. With or without christian “teachings”.” <== no. they haven't

        "Whites helped their neighbors from Classical antiquity to 2017. With or without christian “teachings”." <== no. they didn't.

        "Whites felt guilt about pulling any underhanded stunts from from Classical antiquity to 2017. With or without christian “teachings”." <== again, no. they didn't.

        Remind me, of what great feats comparable to the Roman's or the Greeks were northern euro's accomplishing prior to the fall of Rome and the spread of Christianity?

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 1:36 pm S.J., Esquire

        Whites helped their neighbors from Classical antiquity to 2017. With or without christian “teachings”.” <== no. they didn't.

        Indeed. Anyone insisting otherwise needs to hear Tom Holland’s perspective. He’s a British classicist who writes enjoyable and readable history books for lay audiences (he’s got a ripping one on the Greco-Persian wars, highly recommended).

        Some time last year or so he came out and said, more or less, “Look, you know, I’m a liberal and never thought myself much of a Christian, but my study of the ancient world has just made it clear to me that we really, really don’t want to live in a world without Christian morals. The way people treated each other in antiquity…”

        Any putative revival for Western peoples without Christian faith is just LARPing by people who only have first-world problems.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:15 pm Haven M.

      right, I’m sure there are good people all over the world, to our eyes. But their ideas of what makes them a good person can be different in their eyes.

      But just because there are good people available all over the world doesn’t mean that our borders need to come tumbling down.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 2:17 pm Haven M.

        thus, a muslim who decides not to hack off an infidels neck may seem, to us, to be a good man. But, to other muslims, that act of mercy may be an indication that he’s a bad guy…a bad muslim who does not follow the commands of the quor-ham.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 3:05 pm itsme

        a bad muslim who does not follow the commands of the quor-ham.

        yep….

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3509367/Muslim-shopkeeper-stabbed-death-hours-posted-happy-Easter-message.html

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:47 pm Carlos Danger

      It’s only absurd because you have a sophist’s understanding of Western Culture before and after Christianity.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 3:15 pm ultimathule1

      There’s an interesting book on the transformation of Christianity in medieval Europe, entitled The Germanization of Early Medieval Christianity, by James C. Russell (link: https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Germanization_of_Early_Medieval_Chri.html?id=y9Ysp4U4C_IC&hl=en ). Russell points out that in order to make any in-roads in converting the Heathens north of the Alps, the Christian missionaries had to tweak the story to better conform to the heroic warrior ethics of the Germanic peoples by portraying Jesus as a conquering warrior king and his disciples as his loyal band of warriors. So yes, you are correct, CH, about Christianity and the older Heathen European beliefs co-evolving. As for those who resisted this transformation, they were converted at the point of the sword or killed – for example, the thousands of Saxon noblemen who chose to be beheaded rather than betray Wotan, Donar, Baldur and the other Gods of their fathers – Charlemagne’s soldiers made the waters of the Aller River run red with their blood.
      As for the pre-Christian virtues of the Germanic peoples, these can best be summed up by the Nine Noble Virtues (gleaned from old myths and sagas):
      1. Courage
      2. Truth
      3. Honor
      4. Fidelity
      5. Discipline
      6. Hospitality
      7. Self-Reliance
      8. Industriousnes
      9. Perseverance
      (Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Noble_Virtues )

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 1:41 pm Carlos Danger

        Charlemagne executed them for looting cathedrals and churches. Literacy was the big prize that convinced heathens to convert.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 4:32 pm Amasius

      Christianity wasn’t inevitable, as I learned recently.

      http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/fall-of-the-pagans-and-the-origins-of-medieval-christianity.html

      It was a marginal sect of Judaism until the eccentric Constantine became Emperor and his friends, the highly organized (((Church))) went to work wrecking everything. Julian the Philosopher could have reversed it, but he died. The (((cult))) won.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 6:40 pm wolfie65

        Accomplishments of ancient Pagan Europeans other than Greece and Rome – well, let’s see:
        The Celts had a very high culture, metalwork, artistry, complex social customs, unmatched bravery in battle, systems of agriculture and tending the land that didn’t destroy the land – versus more civilized Rome, which stripped Italy and, subsequently, much of the rest of SW Europe bare of trees – Celts were renowned for song and dance – none of which have survived, thanks to Rome and (((Cuckstianity))), but we can still hear traces of them in Irish, Scottish, Breton or Galician folk tunes.
        The Celts had a very complex and highly evolved religion and were pretty much the masters of much of Europe until the Romans built a large and effective military and roads to move the troops around quickly.
        Germans felt no need to 3r3ct stone buildings in which to grow soft and sick and remove yourself from the natural environment, their home were the trees – which the Romans and, subsequently, also the (((Cuckstians))) liked to chop down.
        Vikings built ships capable of crossing the very stormy, icy cold and huge north Atlantic in an age when everyone else’s ships were confined to hugging the coast or floating in that oversize bathtub known as the Mediterranean.
        Perhaps most importantly, German achievements include blue-eyed blondes, Celtic achievements green-eyed redheads.
        Civilization is a curse, not a blessing.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 7:09 am Tupla-J

        It never was a “sect of judaism”. Christianity and Judaism share the same Hebrew tradition, but in no way, shape or form is Judaism in any sense prior to Christianity, quite the opposite, as it was formed specifically in opposition to it, excluding texts that were fully kosher prior.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 1:47 pm Carlos Danger

        It was the leading religion in the Army and popular with slaves, women, and soldiers. It thrived because it was well organized and gave people innate dignity. Persecution was sporadic and seldom resolute for long. Philosophically, monotheism was ascendant as well. Christianity is revolutionary not just some pleasant way to order the world. It’s time had come and men were thirsty for its message.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 2:29 pm Amasius

        Yes Christianity was a sect or ‘heresy’ sprung from Judaism. Jesus was an Aramaic-speaking jewish rabbi born to two jewish parents in Judaea who said he had come to fulfil the jewish scriptures. All the disciples and apostles were jewish. Paul/Saul was a jew. Peter was a jew. They proselytized jewish communities around the Mediterranean. Read the book of Acts. The thing was entirely jewish– they used arguments from the old testament to prove Jesus’ supposed divinity and establish continuity. Jewish communities were already surrounded by goy cucks known as god-fearers (theophoboi) who were attracted to jews and the jewish worldview. Christianity had special appeal to these people because Saul/Paul had the idea of decoupling Judaism from bloodlines and dick-slicing so that conversion was easier. There’s actually no proof these jews (Jesus himself especially) were even trying to start a new religion– they were reforming and expanding Judaism.

        As this sect of Judaism became inundated with goyim (over decades and centuries) it took on an anti-jew (fundamentalist biological jew) cast. The gospel of John was clearly written by a goy convert for instance (it’s better written and hates on “the jews” constantly even though everybody in the story besides Pilate is jewish). Fast forward to the Constantine era and after, the time of mass conversions to the imperial faith, and you have a definite cleft occur between “Christianity” and Talmudic Rabbinical Judaism. Most jews jumped ship to the ascendant sect, leaving the hard core behind.

        Christianity is a jewish, semitic, oriental, alien non-White ideology that was forced and grafted onto our people by hateful neurotics.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 2:37 pm Major7

        fiddlefaddle. Tupla J makes a very good point. There’s a big difference between Hebrew and Jewish. Judaism was and is a corruption of the Hebraic faith.

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  15. on June 7, 2017 at 1:53 pm Samgar

    Religion is basically sacrifice. Judaism does not have sacrifice, thus they end up empty shells. Islam still has sacrifice but it is perverted (you can still have sex slaves, 4 wives) and the ultimate sacrifice is to die in jihad (i.e. dying while killing the infidel). Christianity has “spiritualized” the sacrifice (the Catholic mass/ Divine Liturgy, acts of service to others, monogamy) and so it seems more of an “outward” sacrifice, since others benefit. In fact, the greatest love is to give your life for others, either literally or spiritually. But modern Christianity (since the 60s at least) has taken the sacrifice out of the religion and while service to others remains, it is not couched in terms of sacrifice but of justice. Hence SJWs and war from diversity.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:49 pm Carlos Danger

      The element of sacrifice is meant to repudiate the Moloch cult.

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  16. on June 7, 2017 at 2:03 pm Greg Eliot

    Christianity is the religion of the higher IQ, the more empathic, the bigger-souled, the guilt-based (inner morality); it’s a religion for a people whose impulse is to transcend their human failings and better themselves, rather than to embrace their will to filth and stamp a seal of approval on their avaricious barbarity.

    and…

    Those who think the White West can be unyoked from Christianity and not just survive but thrive are fools; Christianity can no more be excised from the West than charity, empathy, genius, poetry, and high trust can be cut out from Western societies without permanently altering the character of the people.

    Well-said… bears repeating, ‘though Lord knows, there are a few here who have been saying this for years now.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 3:00 pm NothingMan00

      It also used to do a fairly good job of domesticating toilet people

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  17. on June 7, 2017 at 2:03 pm irishsavant

    One of your best posts Heartiste.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:59 pm TLM

      This post was more thought provoking and powerful than likely 99% of all the sermons given in any church in America this past Sunday.

      And while kudos to CH for that accomplishment, it’s sickening to see how weak & vapid Churchianity has become. Houses of worship filled with twinks, wordly wisdom, cucks, skinny-jeaned ‘worship’ ministers, etc etc.

      If the church was filled with men that even slightly looked as hard as those on the cover of FarCry5 I’d never miss Sunday service.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 4:57 pm JironGhrad

        It’s worth pointing out (in my opinion at least) that the appeal to all those “etc.” is because they misunderstand that they have to “do” to go from weak to strong. The vast majority are just showing up expecting good feelz, without any real sense of what it’s really all about. The easiest way to identify the hypocrites: look for Starbuck’s cups.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 11:51 am H.

        Well said, and lol at the Farcry 5 cover I’m glad I wasn’t the only one to spot it. Boycotting in 3…2…

        That’s what bug’s me most of the diehard WN fans here. They think they can have white identity without Christianity. I agree modern self professed Christians are cucked, it’s disgusting.

        But that’s the thing: Christianity hasn’t changed, just people’s interpretation of it. True Christianity is just that, an unchanging truth. People have been martyred for that truth, nothing will change that, they shall have their reward.

        A white nation wiil only last as long as their belief in christianity does. after they abandon it, as history has proved, the nation perishes.

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  18. on June 7, 2017 at 2:03 pm badbully42

    Yung summed it up “The human soul is christian”. He should have said the European’s soul is Christian.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:50 pm Carlos Danger

      Great Asian writing comes awfully close.

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  19. on June 7, 2017 at 2:03 pm Tiberius

    Thus, miscegenation.

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  20. on June 7, 2017 at 2:16 pm vfm#7634

    “Regrettably, Christianity, like its people, has “out-evolved” itself — it evolved to where it was always logically heading faster and more completely than it could counter-evolve defenses against exploitation of its core tenets — and now waits in a horribly weakened condition for enemies to burn its cathedrals and piss on the gravestones of its saints and heroes.”

    I suspect it’s more of a matter of shitlib revolutions appealing to man’s darker nature in the same way Islam does. Notably, when countries became Protestant, it was imposed top-down by a country’s elites taking advantage of the indifference of the majority of the country’s citizens. After a couple of hundred years of Protestantism, full-blown shitlibbery appeared and has proceeded to completely take over the West, threatening to destroy our very existence.

    If you’ll notice, shitlibs, Jews, and Muslims all instinctively ally with each other, against Christians. They’re are a trilateral pact of the devil intending to utterly wipe out what remaining Christianity there is on earth.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:19 pm Haven M.

      yup, just like big brains can evolve to where you think you’re too smart to believe in God or gods and then get bogged down in endless ennui of how it’s all meaningless because there’s no beyond, just oblivion, leading to destruction. The current state of the C church seems to be bent on suicide cult charity. Like the philosophy where everyone be donating everything they own to everyone else so we thus all live like beggars.

      Toughen up

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:26 pm Greg Eliot

      If you’ll notice, shitlibs, Jews, and Muslims all instinctively ally with each other, against Christians.

      Add to that a goodly portion of alleged stalwart alt-R (ahem) allies who visit the chateau to peddle their heathen or atheistic nihilistic wares.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 2:33 pm mendo

        Agreed. Or even just those agitators that love to speak platitudes and empty dialog just to derail the thread and strawmen themselves with their delusions of grandeur.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 2:43 pm Greg Eliot

        Any true White man that cares about righteousness would embrace Christianity merely by witnessing those against it.

        The enemies of Christ are invariably also the enemies of the White race, even though many of those enemies be White themselves… but only in body, not in spirit… and the latter is where rubber actually meets the road, as the saying goes.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 3:02 pm tomjones

        As for me, knowing the origins of Christianity, I say without hesitation, that Christianity is not compatible with White Nationalism. This is my opinion and I have stuck with it for several years now.

        Even Dr. William Pierce agrees with me. Read his original National Alliance membership manual.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 3:20 pm vfm#7634

        Alt-Retard anti-Christians are reacting against shitlib cuckstain-anity, pointing at it and declaring it “real” Christianity — despite the fact that the Crusaders and Conquistadores would have looked derisively at cuckstains and then sliced their heads off.

        They’re exactly like MGTOWs reacting against feminists and declaring them “real” women.

        Both attitudes are wrong — and Gamma to the core.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 4:44 pm warriorhun

        @tomjones

        In Europe, it was not Whiteness, but it was Christianity that united different ethnic White peoples.
        And even today, against the Islamist threat, no White Nationalism will unite White people in europe, only a returning to Christianity will be able to do that.
        Say, I am a Hungarian. No Romanian, no Slovak, no Serb is a White brother for me, nor will they ever be. But in the face of Islamist threat, I am ready to fight side by side with them, as fellow Christians, for Christian Europe.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 4:49 pm ultimathule1

        “Add to that a goodly portion of alleged stalwart alt-R (ahem) allies who visit the chateau to peddle their heathen or atheistic nihilistic wares.”
        When did the Chateau become an exclusively Christian club? Seriously, if the Chateau is supposed to be for Christians only, then I’ll abide by that rule and refrain from commentIng on Christianity from now on – I am not (((one of those rude people who demands to be admitted into every club))). Personally, my religion is the veneration of my Ancestors and the sacredness of our European bloodlines, with a cultural appreciation of the old Gods. I also love the beauty of old cathedrals and certain Christian hymns, but this beauty comes from the ancestral soul of the White Man, and not from the Middle East (example, this beautiful Serbian hymn, which I offer with respect for you:

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 6:23 pm cortesar

        “Add to that a goodly portion of alleged stalwart alt-R (ahem) allies who visit the chateau to peddle their heathen or atheistic nihilistic wares.”
        ————————————————————————————————–
        hehe greg believes that he is the one who is going to decide who can or cannot post here

        “Add to that a goodly portion of alleged cuckstians allies who visit the chateau to peddle their semitic scriptures and lunacies that only that part of world could have bigotten.”

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 6:29 pm Amasius

        “Any true White man that cares about righteousness would embrace Christianity merely by witnessing those against it.”

        Such a lame-ass argument. Jews are against ANYTHING that brings White men together. Do I need to post the Promise Keepers vid again? Milk has been declared White Supremacist because Whites can drink it, beards have been declared White Supremacist because Southern and working class White men like to wear them; even the goofy movie “Deadpool” has been attacked as potentially White Supremacist because young Whites liked it.

        https://www.dailystormer.com/dirty-jew-attacks-deadpool-says-its-evil-because-young-white-males-enjoy-it/

        They hate everything in our culture because they hate US. And believe me they’d hate our religion a lot more if it wasn’t jewish.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 6:34 pm cortesar

        lame indeed
        in addition both jews and leftards seem to have recently fallen in love with
        cuckstians
        which brings me to that evangelical lunatics, most lunatic white group that has ever walked the earth

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 11:53 am H.

        @VFM Words out of mouth

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 1:53 pm Carlos Danger

        But they are singing praise the Lord. You need to reconsider your point and realize what you are truly praising. This is played often in my home, BTW. My daughter comes running into the room when she hears it.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 8:03 pm Greg Eliot

      What’s lame is the lack of understanding of youse yeggs who can’t see that, in attacking Christianity, rather than attacking FALSE Christianity, you ally yourselves with those who wish to destroy TRUE Christianity and thereby, the White folk, whose culture is intimately tied into the Christian tradition.

      You’re aiding and abetting the enemy because you’re too short-sighted, and stubborn in pride, like the stiff-necked hebes you claim to abhor.

      Avaunt, impious fools… with alt-R allies like you, we need no further foes.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 12:00 pm safespaceplaypen

        (((tom jones))) is really unleashing his inner (((critical spirit))) in this comment section lol.

        too much holiness perhaps?

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 4:57 pm Hook or Crook

        You’re not an “ally”, you’re a washed-up old man with nothing to contribute who seems to constantly find ways to try to drive wedges between people here.

        When you’re not extensively quoting jew movies and forcing your own memes, you’re typing in a creepy faux-Ivanhoe dialect.

        We “heathens” are willing to fight alongside our white brothers – we care not what they believe. Ideology is dead; race is king. You, however, don’t really want that. I’m not sure what you want. All I’m sure of is that you’re dead weight.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 6:55 pm Greg Eliot

        Ah, I see the same ankle-biter who likes to pester me with his projections now takes on YET ANOTHER sock-puppy monicker.

        But your style, and your complaints, give you away.

        I got your dead weight right here, buttmunch. Come get one in the yarbles, if’n ya got any, eunuch jelly thou. 😡

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  21. on June 7, 2017 at 2:19 pm Jared

    “Those who think the White West can be unyoked from Christianity and not just survive but thrive are fools; Christianity can no more be excised from the West than charity, empathy, genius, poetry, and high trust can be cut out from Western societies without permanently altering the character of the people. Discarding Christianity is taking a hatchet to a part of the essence of European man and expecting him to walk off the operating table unchanged. Instead, what’s happened is de-Christianized European man lays naked and defenseless”

    finally

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:23 pm Greg Eliot

      That was my first reaction…

      Not so much that it hasn’t been said, and numerous times at that, here at the chateau.

      But it was about time the proprietor himself spoke the words. 😉

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 2:35 pm mendo

        One of the great aspects of Le Chateau is that it’s a great sanctuary for Christian thought and discussion.

        Real talk, I might add.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 3:03 pm Carlos Danger

        Compare now to 2011 posting and tell me there is no God

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 3:07 pm Major7

        Isn’t it kinda weird that a Christian can come here to get realtalk AND validation of his faith?

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  22. on June 7, 2017 at 2:24 pm Divine Son of Codreanu

    The Qur’an is tedious reading.

    The New Testament is beautiful.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 6:35 pm Amasius

      ROFL compare the gospels to the Aeneid and the Metamorphoses. Compare Paul’s letters to Cicero’s writings.

      But yeah, the Qur’an is terrible. It wasn’t even written in Arabic originally. They took Syriac Christian scriptures and forced them into a pseudo-Arabic that is literally incomprehensible ~20% of the time, even to Arabs.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 6:43 pm cortesar

        “And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.”

        —2 Corinthians 12:9

        English Standard Version
        But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

        if ever was a corrupting slave morality dogma there is the one

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 8:11 pm Greg Eliot

        Ah, yes… the nonbeliever, giving us his interpretation of Scripture… never known it to fail, a la:

        They read, but do not understand… have eyes, but do not see… ears, but do not hear.

        Let’s put it in terms you yeggs MIGHT be able to comprehend, from a source that seems to be much-revered ’round chere:

        “It’s not until you lose everything that you are free to do anything.”

        Strength comes from God.

        Hell’s belles, it’s like we’re talking with children here. (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 8:55 pm cortesar

        hehe
        fight club 12:10
        except that fight club is about the fight not ’bout “boasting gladly of my weakness”

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 2:01 pm Carlos Danger

        See the exaltation of weakness as an appeal to a higher strength to say that this that I saw as strength is in fact superseded by higher forms of existence. See this also in terms of a society that was absolutely pitiless towards weakness or failure and contemptuous of human dignity. You don’t see it because you have grown up in a world blessed by Christianity. This idea is nearly identical in Buddhism.

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  23. on June 7, 2017 at 2:24 pm martin

    I suppose if you are a radical reductionist, there are no ideas, just biology. On the one hand, man is religious. Religions are everywhere. Even places that call themselves secular have ended up adopting the new age movement and the gaia cult. On the other hand, we have sub saharan africa as a place to look at evidence to see if the religions have any affect on people given that Christianity and Islam have grown so rapidly there over the past 20 years. I am very surprised that I can’t find a good study on this topic but my eyes don’t lie. There is a poll of people there and in the data, Muslims were viewed as more violent by people of all the other religions. Now these must be recent converts to Islam. Likewise, there are far more involved in radical and violent Islamic groups than there are Christian ones. So tentatively I think religion has an affect on people. As well there were the religious wars in Europe between Catholic and Protestant and more recently the founder of the mormon religion reminds me of Mohamet. But generally, I think Christians are less violent than Muslims of the same ethnicity. So I think the radical reduction hypothesis does have evidence against it.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:52 pm tomjones

      YES! it’s all biology. there are no ideas, just biology.

      Whites are white.

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  24. on June 7, 2017 at 2:31 pm Ian Smith

    An amazingly brilliant analysis.

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  25. on June 7, 2017 at 2:34 pm Augustus Tilton

    I think along the same lines: religion is a manifestation of the race-soul. For instance, take a stroll through a museum gallery showing American Indian artifacts, it is clear that they worshipped demons based on the sometimes well crafted but always grotesque and hideous masks and idols they made.

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    • on June 8, 2017 at 2:02 pm Carlos Danger

      All of them did and do. Fallen angels and all that.

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  26. on June 7, 2017 at 2:37 pm Logic

    The last temptation of Jesus by the devil was the following:

    Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain and showed him all the
    kingdoms of the world and their splendor.”All this I will give you,” he said, “if
    you will bow down and worship me.” Jesus said to him, “Away from me,
    Satan! For it is written, ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.’”

    Christianity is necessary for the western civilization. However, as a religion it has suffered greatly from the Schism between the Eastern Orthodoxy and the Western Catholicism.

    It is my belief that if we are to survive as a religion, we must turn towards Eastern Orthodoxy. Dostoevsky was judging Catholicism for preaching a Jesus that had succumbed to the Devil’s last temptation. They build palaces for themselves and gained political and material power as well as an earthly kingdom (the Vatican). This hypocrisy is visible and leads to cynicism and eventually to atheism.

    It is not an accident that the Eastern Euro countries remain shitlords when it comes to migration etc. They are guided by true belief in an ideal, not by a religion that values comfort and complacency.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:40 pm Greg Eliot

      They are guided by true belief in an ideal, not by a religion that values comfort and complacency.

      I like the cut of your jib, kid. 😉

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:40 pm mendo

      One book that I recommend, though I’m not nearly done with it, it’s so ripe with quality materials, is Leo Tolstoy’s The Kingdom of God is Within You.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 3:01 pm Carlos Danger

        Tolstoy is a genius

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 11:27 am Augustus Tilton

        Maybe I need to reread it but that was written in Tolstoy’s later days of increasing wonkiness. What are you finding of value?

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 11:37 am mendo

        He covers or rather writes about Christianity across a variety of topics. That is, how the Christian should approach life in a given situation, circumstance. But it’s much deeper than just that quick blurb.

        For me, it’s a book where you ponder each paragraph because it’s so full of information and insight, you need time to process, absorb and appreciate what you just read.

        In short, the whole build illustrates how a Christian should order their lives based on Christ’s Sermon on the Mount, hence the title.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:54 pm Carlos Danger

      It is my belief that if we are to survive as a religion, we must turn towards Eastern Orthodoxy.

      This is in the Fatima prophecy. You guys who dis the BVM are making a big mistake.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 3:12 pm Major7

        I think a return to Orthodox is inevitable.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 8:19 pm Greg Eliot

        When Scripture instructs me to pray to Mary, I will do so.

        Until then, all I see is God’s Word that there is one mediator between God and Man, and that’s Christ.

        All fine intentions aside, we can’t in good conscience care about what Man has to say, be he Pope or pauper… what God has to say can be our only concern.

        This issue will not cause me to stumble, nor hold back in the defense of my Catholic brothers… but I cannot allow middle men and women, no matter how holy, to get between the Savior and me… God forbids it.

        In the past I and others have asked for Scripture… thus far, none is forthcoming on this matter.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 2:25 am Ripp

        The pope is a total cuck. And his palace of homo erotica serves no purpose in these times.

        All things practical, the pope and the Catholic institution are an enabler of the death of the west.

        time for change indeed.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 2:04 pm Carlos Danger

        Solo scriptorium is heresy

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 2:18 pm Greg Eliot

        Solo scriptorium is heresy.

        Scriptura ex Scriptura explicanda est.

        The more you listen to men, the further from God’s Word you stray.

        /Val Kilmer trades Latin with Michael Biehn rape!

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 2:21 pm mendo

        How so, Carlos?

        In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God…. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 6:44 pm Ripp

        …and the pope probably says “poly scrotuma” as he fondles his church boys…

        …then later prays for open borders for Europe…

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 3:26 pm Scanman

      St. Thomas Aquinas, entering the presence of Innocent II., before whom a large sum of money was spread out, the Pope observed, “You see, Thomas, the Church is no longer in that age in which she said, ‘Silver and gold have I none.’”—“True, holy father,” replied Aquinas; “neither can she any longer say to the lame, ‘Rise up and walk.’” Vide Acts iii. 2–8.

      To the extent The Faith becomes materialist (i.e. Judaized), it betrays Our Lord and becomes a tool of his enemies. Pretty simple.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 3:28 pm Major7

        Nicely said

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  27. on June 7, 2017 at 2:39 pm Nads

    For all the faults of Christianity, it never had screwing 6 year olds baked into its teachings.

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  28. on June 7, 2017 at 2:49 pm Anonymous

    Nah. They are both Abrahamic religions. More similar than you’d like to admit.

    This reads as a fluff piece

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 2:57 pm Nads

      Kind of like comparing Jenny McCarthy and Melissa McCarthy because they are related. Just because they came from the same part of the world. doesn’t make them the same.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 3:06 pm mendo

        HAHAHA

        +1

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 3:49 pm safespaceplaypen

        Anonymouse is right and you are wrong

        join our pagan LARP team!

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 3:00 pm Carlos Danger

      You don’t get it either.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 8:23 pm Greg Eliot

      Abraham was the father of many nations. The God of Abraham has no nationality.

      Is it any surprise that men, evincing different cultures and moralities, indeed, to the extent that any past brotherhood appears as myth, would put their own misbegotten stamp on that which began from the same origin, and have it evolve into disparate, even unrecognizable destinations?

      This isn’t rocket surgery… youse yeggs have GOT to learn to think in three dimensions.

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  29. on June 7, 2017 at 2:59 pm Carlos Danger

    This subject has been made into several Alex Jones rants. It is old school Catholicism and also the subject of many Bishop Williamson sermons. I have said for many years now that Islam is an apostate Satanic religion and is being used in a hammer and post style attack with Communism against Christianity.

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  30. on June 7, 2017 at 3:02 pm Sorcerygod

    Heartiste is probably — no flattery — a genius, but I think his understanding of wider societal functions and mores is weak. Particularly where religion is concerned.

    (My rating for Heartiste, if you are curious, is 98% correct on women/men, 90% correct on liberals/politics with some incorrect emphases, and an off-topic general rating of about 87-92% on miscellaneous topics.)

    Back to religion.

    There’s nothing saying a new religion can’t arise to improve on what Christianity was doing. For example: sin was never a good concept. In fact, it undermines you to say you’re worthless. Hernan Cortes didn’t conquer the Mexica by feeling bad about himself.

    If a new religion arose in place of the old, it might serve the needs of the modern West to a tee. I can think of a few ways in which this would be so. For instance, rather than referring to wells and Roman guards, a new religion could metaphorically reference cars, gasoline, and video games — things we all understand, permanent new things.

    Further, a religion could be INSPIRATIONAL in new ways. We can see in such disparate figures as Anthony Robbins and Don Cherry of Hockey Night in Canada a kind of lively attitude which would, infused in religion, translated more strongly on a wide societal level. Attitude counts for so much in life.

    Because Heartiste is more concerned with the White West than the Crown-of-Thorns Jesus, he probably doesn’t understand why religion as a whole is so important. I think, H-Bomb, some people live their lives on a wider, higher plane, one which brings them in touch with the universe in a way they can reference it. Religion is a wide-net spectre, in other words. Any new religion that can reference THAT too is bound to be a hit, and aid and abet the White Peoples of the World.

    [CH: i haz been rated and found wanting. sad!]

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 4:04 pm Major7

      Are you sensing, as you’re writing, how incredibly lame you are? Lively attitude? I wish Jesus had thought of that. His religion would have been a hit.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 4:46 pm FuriousFerret

      Every single post that I read of yours, this picture always pops up in my mind.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 4:28 pm Anonymous

        Neckbeard-o’-Rama!

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    • on June 8, 2017 at 2:12 am Ripp

      Sorcery queer is an excellent exhibit of an internet gamma male.

      Poor self monitoring skills with a computationally slow comprehension loop for processing situational responses to it’s own presence and communication.

      Very characteristic of (((YKW))) behavior mixed with a dull and obvious French cafe aura of deluded arrogance.

      Like the kid on the playground who doesn’t ever get picked by either kick ball team and doesn’t understand why. But then writes a couple pages about how the winning team’s captain doesn’t understand the game.

      Tool. give it a rest.

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  31. on June 7, 2017 at 3:02 pm robpaxton

    No matter how you feel about the advent of Christianity in the west 2000 years ago, it has become inextricably intertwined with our entire history. It did not replace the Greeks and the Romans, but rather combined with their cultures and ideas . If you want to find schools that still study and teach The history and philosophy was a great man of Rome and Greece, generally you will have to go to a conservative Christian school today. There are many such catholic schools which still cherish these old writings and preserve them almost as an addition to scripture. If you love the west, you must love our curious and somewhat tortured history as these sometimes competing philosophies have made room in our cultures down to the centuries.

    Were Islam to take over, all this would gone. Maypole dances, impressionist art, the cathedral of Chartres, the French Revolution, the Magna Carta, Charlemagne, the Space race, St. Francis, the Sistine Chapel, the Industrial revolution – All gone.

    Under Islam, there is no history. Only Mohammed. There is no conflict of thought. No spur to creativity. Only one endless, plodding recitation and contemplation of a totalitarian spirit.

    When you fight for the west, do not feel that you fight for anyone of these things, even those things with which you do not agree. Because they will ALL be gone forever if you do not fight.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 4:50 pm warriorhun

      Not just the old Roman and Greek, but the local ethnic White, Pagan roots were also incorporated into Christianity. That is the reason Christianity could transcend its desert roots in White Europe.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 8:28 pm Greg Eliot

      A beautiful post, friend robpaxton.

      This is what many of us forget… the alternative, especially the Islamic one, is that all else will be gone.

      I, for one, cannot and will not live in such a world.

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  32. on June 7, 2017 at 3:05 pm Anonymous

    “Religion is less an influence on culture and society than it is a manifest revelation of the genetic foundation of the people who profess belief in it”

    Bingo. This is a supreme truth of the world that not even many conservatives/”alt-right”ers realize. Very impressed to see it elaborated here.

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  33. on June 7, 2017 at 3:18 pm V.

    Some thoughts, some of which are repeated from Major Style’s recent
    post on the subject.

    That the Koran is the central text of Islam is misleading; like Judaism and the midrash, Muslim clerics and the truly devout must also study the hadiths (sayings) and siras (biographies) of the Prophet Mohammed, of which there are numerous collections across the centuries after his death. None from within the first century after Mohammed’s death or within 600 miles of where he lived, and none universally accepted as authoritative (though some more than others). They’re also extremely long, out of order, and repetitive, making study difficult. But my main point is one can read the Koran and conclude it’s a beautiful collection of poetry like the Psalms, and not realize you’re only getting half the picture. (Islam also never really claimed to be a religion of peace, until Bush 43, and IIRC maybe one Egyptian from the 60s.)

    Islam appeals to the baser instincts in all of us, because it appeals to our pride – to a Muslim, a man’s calling is to be holy and in submission, and this you do by being a man: pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps. No need for a beaten, bloodied savior, that is W-E-A-K. I think this is part of the reason the Nation of Islam did so well.

    Also, although on paper Muslims have some respect for Christians and Jews as “People of the Book”, it’s obviously not reality, and Christians in particular are considered egregiously idolatrous because of their (Muslims’) false understanding of the Trinity.

    Many modern Christians misinterpret “turn the other cheek” to mean “bend over”. True Christians who want to save the world don’t make everyone else foot the bill for it. Missionaries go out, they don’t drag everyone back home (at the detriment of their own). And if they’re going to pull out OT references to treating sojourners kindly, they’d better remember that that was under a pretty rigid theocracy that applied to everyone. The Israelites did NOT believe in separation of church and state.

    Interesting points about Jesus v. Mohammed. Whereas Jesus sought no political legitimacy, even going so far as to advocate peaceful submission to the state (as far as morally possible), Mohammed united the Arab tribes and took over the region, by force. Completely different aims and methodology. (Remember now, Islam means “submission” or “surrender”. Islam is peace!)

    – Vanamee

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  34. on June 7, 2017 at 3:27 pm Lichthof

    Trudeau and Obama hanging out like (fag) bros. The MSM sucking their cocks.

    http://i2.wp.com/peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/obama-trudeau-2.jpg?crop=0px%2C0px%2C2000px%2C1333px&resize=2000%2C1333&ssl=1

    From the days of the Rat Pack..we now have the Fudge Pack.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 3:28 pm Lichthof

      The globbo homo political organization called the German national soccer team wore a rainbow captain’s armband alst night in a game in lieu of the upcoming summer tournament……………….. in Russia.
      They really are a bunch of fags (check the phisog) and of course the passive aggressive virtue signaling.

      http://www.faz.net/aktuell/sport/fussball/julian-draxler-kapitaen-von-dfb-team-bei-confed-cup-2017-15050666/kapitaen-draxler-fuehrte-das-15050638.html#fotobox_1_5050666

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 5:54 pm Rick Derris

      Look at Trudeau leaning forward as Obama is leaning back. It’s like Trudeau just wants to slob Obama’s knob as he eats. Next it will be Obama giving Justin the Blumpkin in the restaurant bathroom.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 2:15 am Ripp

        LOL

        Blumpkin…some laugh…some need an explanation.

        haven’t heard that one in a while

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  35. on June 7, 2017 at 3:38 pm Native Balkanian

    If you wish to see the impact race has on religion , just compare the “muslim” Whites (muslim Albanians and Slavs) and their societies to their Arab counterparts. I dare to say that Islam practised by whites , would be “kinder” more civilised than Christianity practised by arabs or blacks.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 6:19 pm vfm#7634

      Albanians are known for being the most ruthless gangsters, pimps, and whatever else among native Europeans. Islam had a horrible effect on them too, don’t kid yourself.

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    • on June 8, 2017 at 12:18 pm H.

      Rubbish. What would you call all of these white shitlibs preaching j3wy concepts? How about these race traitor coal burners? How about these idiot preachers with their push on open borders. Foolishness at best, and not JUST the juice fault. Did they live up to your view of higher moral principles?

      Whites are the superior race, but don’t fool yourself into thinking they are perfect by themselves. Whites need Christianity more than ever, in order to retain their morality.

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  36. on June 7, 2017 at 4:00 pm Anonymousshitlord

    I always keep coming back to the martyrs of Christianity. From St. Stephen, to St. Paul, to St. Peter, to St. Ignatius of Antioch, to St. Maximilian Kolbe, to the Copts massacred just this last Palm Sunday, and all the known and unknown martyrs in between…

    Either:

    1. There is absolutely nothing after death. Just the big “Nothing.” Lights out for good. Eternal Oblivion. They’ll never know they were totally wrong. All of them are all the biggest fucking idiots in history, throwing away their lives because a proto-hippie Jewish Carpenter on the outskirts of the Roman Empire and executed as a traitor to the Roman State told them to, and they should be mocked and laughed at for their idiocy. St. Paul himself says as much in 1 Corinthians 15:14.

    or…

    2. There is something more to all this.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 6:00 pm Captain Obvious

      “executed as a traitor to the Roman State”

      He wasn’t executed as a traitor to the Roman state.

      He was executed because the Jews demanded that he be executed.

      Pontius Pilate could find no fault in him.

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    • on June 8, 2017 at 2:09 pm Carlos Danger

      Pilate’s wife had had a prophetic dream the night before and told Pilate to go easy on Jesus, that he was not to be trifled with and to be respected.

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  37. on June 7, 2017 at 4:42 pm modern-day cowboy (formerly "some guy")

    Uh, Western Civilization was invented by Greek pagans.

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    • on June 7, 2017 at 7:29 pm Amasius

      And damn near permanently wrecked by Christians.

      Only a huge influx of Germanic blood in the west was able to salvage it.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 8:50 pm tomjones

        ‘A Holy War Becomes Hell On Earth’

        Damn. That’s stone cold truth. Pure red pill.

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      • on June 7, 2017 at 10:54 pm Almahad

        Leftist propaganda about a We Wuzery Feminist Icon.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 6:13 pm Lord of the Gulf Stream

        Those are three kikes, not Christians.

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  38. on June 7, 2017 at 4:51 pm Augustus Tilton

    Christianity in the form of an uncucked Catholic church is worth circling back to, but for the time being the lack of religion on the part of budding legions of Altright foot soldiers is a great asset. We can’t have people feeling guilty about what needs to be done. As it is, Christianity has been powerfully (((weaponized))) against us, and can’t be redeemed in it its present manifestation.

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    • on June 8, 2017 at 12:31 pm H.

      I disagree, a Christian reformation is exactly what we need. The Catholic church has low men in high places, to boot.

      Let’s say the non Christian legion of altright’s prevail. What’s the next step? Make up our own religion? It wouldn’t last 2 generations.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 12:37 pm Augustus Tilton

        We don’t have the best raw material to work woth for a reformation. Perhaps I should have used “catholic” with a smal c. If the non-Christian right prevails, as it appears to be, hopefully they can be reChristianized by some uncucked old believers.

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  39. on June 7, 2017 at 5:04 pm Islam As Anti-Christianity | Reaction Times

    […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  40. on June 7, 2017 at 5:29 pm Truth-hammer

    I could have told you this forty years ago when I started paying attention to current events and studying Christianity. And, I did not even get my GED.

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  41. on June 7, 2017 at 7:04 pm cortesar

    “Christianity was from the beginning, essentially and fundamentally, life’s nausea and disgust with life, merely concealed behind, masked by, dressed up as, faith in “another” or “better” life.”
    ― Friedrich Nietzsche, The Birth of Tragedy

    Apollonian vs Dionysian the dichotomy and balance that is essential to art and tragedy Nietzsche claimed
    It is essential to civilization and culture in broader sense
    Only a civilization which has some balance of the two can produce,thrive and survive

    “What does our great historical hunger signify, our clutching about us of countless cultures, our consuming desire for knowledge, if not the loss of myth, of a mythic home, the mythic womb?”
    ― Friedrich Nietzsche, The Birth of Tragedy

    We sorely lack the Dionysian impulse today as Nietzsche put it we have lost our mythic home
    No movement has ever been built solely on an Apollonian rational and clear order

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    • on June 8, 2017 at 3:05 pm Sticky Burr

      Was that written before or after he contracted syphillis?

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  42. on June 7, 2017 at 7:24 pm Amasius

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  43. on June 7, 2017 at 7:32 pm -B-

    Assume for the sake of argument there never was such a thing as patriarchy. That it has always been what was best for women. That restrictions on women working were like restrictions on children working. It was thought to be for their best interests. Now consider that this idea of indulging women’s comforts moved into their desires and then to their indulgences. Even the primitive ones. Now combine that with what is proposed above. That Islam appeals to base desires, instincts, and indulgences and it’s treatment of women reflects a crude, basic concept of protecting women. So what we have is a full circle. From the crude to the civilized and back to the crude.

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  44. on June 7, 2017 at 7:37 pm Evan

    Christianity, Islam, and Judaism are all foreign desert cults.

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  45. on June 7, 2017 at 7:40 pm Mean Mr. Mustard

    I’m just going to leave this here:

    http://howardbloom.net/the-lucifer-principle/islams-war-to-save-the-world/

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  46. on June 7, 2017 at 7:44 pm Mean Mr. Mustard

    ” The Quran was not fully written down and codified until this invasion was in full-swing. Even today, the Quran and the Hadith are like split personalities, preaching both peace and war, tolerance and hate, and this has become a convenient cover for Islam when it is gathering strength and wishes to appear peaceful, but also a justification for war when it is strong enough to wage it.
    This is the split nature of Mohammed’s quest: to unite the Arabs under his banner, through whatever means possible, peace or war. Say what you will of him, but he was a driven man.”

    from

    http://thedeclination.com/the-origins-of-islam-and-holy-war/

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  47. on June 7, 2017 at 8:06 pm TinaRoper14

    Reblogged this on A White Woman's Perspective.

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  48. on June 7, 2017 at 8:37 pm RecoveringBeta

    I just reread your post “Jesus had Game.” It reaffirms for me that this weak, watery eyed Christianity that we have today is a far cry from the warrior religion that not only repelled Muslim incursions across Europe, but also took the fight to their own part of the world. There was also a good article on ROK a while back called “The Myth That Jesus was Weak.” More good stuff.

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  49. on June 8, 2017 at 12:17 am Vincent

    Xtianity used to have no problem fighting the infidel.

    –Bring me my Bow of burning gold;
    Bring me my Arrows of desire:
    Bring me my Spear: O clouds unfold!
    Bring me my Chariot of fire!

    I will not cease from Mental Fight,
    Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand:
    Till we have built Jerusalem,
    In Englands green & pleasant Land–

    And the Heebs take out muzzies on a regular basis. Good for them. When the’re not shootin’ ’em, they’re frisking them.

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    • on June 8, 2017 at 11:33 am Augustus Tilton

      I brlieve that song was written in response to the industrial revolution spoiling England

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  50. on June 8, 2017 at 12:48 am Anonymous

    I have come to the conclusion that you are a complete idiot.

    [CH: which sacred cow of yours did i skewer to help you reach that conclusion?]

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    • on June 8, 2017 at 3:08 pm Sticky Burr

      poor huttthurt anonymous faggot

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    • on June 8, 2017 at 3:11 pm Greg Eliot

      Now, if you can just get Schlomo Schmul and Izzie Bergfeldstein on board, the issue’s settled!

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  51. on June 8, 2017 at 1:56 am Ripp

    God damned brilliant post, CH. Remarkable.

    “I’m of the opinion that a religion is less an influence on culture and society than it is a manifest revelation of the genetic foundation of the people who profess belief in it.”

    This.

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  52. on June 8, 2017 at 7:35 am Lord Sir x

    Islam is pretty brutal. Woe unto brown and black people if it ever gets so successful that white people convert, take the Christian shackles off, and use it against them. Christianity is the only reason they breathe.

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    • on June 8, 2017 at 7:58 am modern-day cowboy (formerly "some guy")

      Islam is pretty brutal. Woe unto brown and black people if it ever gets so successful that white people convert, take the Christian shackles off, and use it against them. Christianity is the only reason they breathe.

      “The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?”

      –Adolph Hitler

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  53. on June 8, 2017 at 7:40 am Carl

    “I’m of the opinion that a religion is less an influence on culture and society than it is a manifest revelation of the genetic foundation of the people who profess belief in it.”

    Spengler put it thusly: “No faith yet has altered the world, and no fact can ever rebut a faith.”

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  54. on June 8, 2017 at 10:01 am A Wise Man

    Christianity has ALREADY been excised from The West, and yes it has had existentially negative consequences for whites of nearly every ethnic stripe. Can Christianity be transplanted back into the body of The West? Possibly, but I think we can do better than that. Clearly we must do better because Christianity was no defense against the globo-homo one world order. The void left by the removal of Christianity is quickly being filled by the poisonous, suicidal, anti-white ideology known as Social Marxism, so we need act now. I’m thinking something along the lines of a hybridized Christianity that is explicitly pro-ethnic European and allows for some malleability so different regions can incorporate their ancestral/indigenous identities into this ‘New Christianity’.

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  55. on June 8, 2017 at 10:01 am Wild Man

    On the religion front, this is the way I see it:

    1) Borrowing some ideas from the brilliant Rene Girard (the guy who spelled out how humans, in social collectives, are very prone to a dynamic whereby our innate capacity for ‘mimetic desire’ naturally leads to the production of the ‘sacrificial scapegoat’, and as such the archaic pre-monotheistic ‘pagan’ religions were based on this natural condition, and this dynamic slowly morphed into the Judaic monotheism, and then ultimately Christianity, with each iteration being a more nuanced understanding and response to said natural innate psychic conditions).

    My paraphrase of Rene Girard’s take on Christianity (Christianity as the most sublime narrative around this dynamic to-date) is this: The story of the Passion of Christ is about how us humans, ever single one of us, has built-in an innate deep-seated problem with respect to our tendency towards getting a raging hard-on for the scapegoating dynamic (you know – the blame game feels fucking brilliant – the hot-blooded rush of orgasmic vindication, and all that – my nickname for the dynamic is ‘contempt for the contemptuous’), and therefore points to a social need for us, each, personally, to muster enough self-awareness around that, to mitigate for said condition.

    2) In my view, Christianity supplants and surpasses Judaism with respect to nuanced understanding of our human condition. Since it is clear that the story of the Passion of Christ, would have been just an unusual arcane inconsequential backwater sect of Judaism, except for the fact that the narrative eventually took root in the fertile ground of the European mindset, leads a lot of credence to CH’s contention that ““Religion is less an influence on culture and society than it is a manifest revelation of the genetic foundation of the people who profess belief in it”. I agree. There are alot of planks in the platform of western ideology and Christianity is integral (both contingent on the other planks, as these arose in European minds, as well an influential plank in it’s own right, impacting upon the other planks, transformational in that sense). Western ideology as a gestalt. When CH says: “Those who think the White West can be unyoked from Christianity and not just survive but thrive are fools;”, …… to my mind, this statement must be understood in the sense I have just outlined here. CH is right – the way forwards is not gonna be an unyoking, but a further building upon this solid foundation of western ideology of which Christianity is an integral part.

    3) Islam was a giant step backwards. The pre-emptive bullying implied by “death to those that blaspheme the Prophet Muhammad” is deranged. The proper western response to that attempt at “I dare you to knock said blaspheme meme off my shoulder”, is: Fuck Muhammad. Fuck Muhammad in the ass. Rape that mothafucka to death. Whatchya gonna do about it? William Muir’s quoted ‘Muhammad vs. Jesus’ comparative analysis is succinct. Pair that with Islamic ideas around abrogation, taqiyya, utter submission to Allah, jihad, and death as penalty for apostasy – makes clear that Islam is moronic. And of course we know why this is. Does anybody really truly believe what that charlatan Joseph Smith claimed (even among the Mormons)? That happened recently enough that we know he was a charlatan by way of the historic record. Well – there also is enough known about Muhammad by way of the historical record to know that it is the exact same thing. Muhammad changed his tune as time went on to serve his own personal interests. It is like that every single time with these snake oil salesmen. Anybody that doesn’t get this is an idiot.

    4) On CH’s concluding comment: “Instead, what’s happened is de-Christianized European man lays naked and defenseless on his gurney, once lamenting and now begging the world’s demon spawn to put the final fading glimmers of his listless spirit to the breaking wheel.” I don’t really see it that way. Whatchya expect western man to do (with respect to casting-off institutional Christianity)? Our Christian church institutions (especially the Roman Catholic) have butchered the true meaning of the story of the Passion of Christ (true meaning as I outlined in #1 above). Institutionalized Christianity promotes altruism (and the Jewish mindset at so many of the levers of power in the west is happy to duplicitously turbocharge that delusion). There is no such fucking thing as altruism. What western man needs to do right now is to right his Christian institutions.

    5) The dynamic I outlined in #1 above, I believe, can be more universally understood. It is western man’s job to start promoting that exact message, universally. We best expediently get on with it (for the sake of us all).

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    • on June 8, 2017 at 11:32 am plumpjack

      sounds like a very roundabout way of saying that religion serves to mitigate pecking order disputes.

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      • on June 8, 2017 at 11:59 am Wild Man

        plumpjack – Rene Girard’s ideas with respect to the archaic religions was that during occasions of rising social conflicts, the sacrifice of the one eventually anointed by group consensus as the sacrificial scapegoat, relieved social tension for awhile (because the vindication feels so fucking brilliant), and since this brought some social benefit, this process slowly became institutionalized (institutionalized human sacrifice later supplanted by animal sacrifice by the Jews). The Christian iteration is more-so about the promotion of self-awareness around our personal self-agency within this dynamic, and it is this self-awareness that can promote more nuanced use of personal self-agency, that can lead to said mitigation of pecking order disputes.

        It sure is weird it is so hard for humans to grasp this. But we all got problems in that respect. Because – altruism is false, utter dominance is false – because – competition/collaboration as a polarity is a biological imperative all of life is subject to. In fact the Darwinian perspective implies this. This polarity is deeply mysterious and very hard to understand.

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  56. on June 8, 2017 at 11:01 am gig

    There is a permanent bias in the ANglosphere to think of “West” and “anglosphere” as equivalent

    The cold hard reality is despite their power and wealth today, Anglos had no role in History until the Spanish Armada was sunk by a storm along England’s coast

    Why I say that? because if you think West = Anglosphere, it feels like Asia has been a superior civilization (think China and India) for thousands of years

    But India and CHina were inferior and barbaric compared to Ancient Greece. Athens alone gave more to the world than both Asian Giants. The chinese, if they knew and had the option, would surely migrate en masse to the SUperior Civilization that was the Roman Empire. Even Byzantium only left the West in 1054, and in 1054 Byzantium was wealthier and more cultured and more free than China and India.

    Byt 1200, Northern Italy and Flanders had already reached a level of civilization that India and CHina would only achieve in the XXth century

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  57. on June 8, 2017 at 11:03 am gig

    It is always worthy of mention, the Roman Empire was the only civilization in history to concentrate, inside its borders, 99% of hot women in the World

    Hadrian or Constantine could honestly say that there was no hot woman alive outside the Empire’s borders

    50 years from now Russia may repeat that feat….

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  58. on June 8, 2017 at 11:18 am gig

    “executed as a traitor to the Roman State”

    Neither Pontius Pilate nor any Roman Court could find any wrongdoing in Christ; he was condemned by the Sanhedrin, the highest Jewish Court in the Land

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  59. on June 8, 2017 at 1:09 pm Jaded Jurist

    Every medal given out for valor involves brave men risking or sacrificing all, that others may live. Such is irrefutably the definition of heroism.

    So Christ comes along and chooses to love the unlovely, and sacrifice himself in the process, that others may live. He could have called down legions of angels to slaughter his foes, but that would have left them damned. Instead he chose the most personally costly path in the hope that you and I might be saved.

    All these mockers going on about Christ and Christians being puşsies, when in fact he/they are the most badaśs heroes of history. You’re little different from a pencil-necked SJW who mocks manly men because he believes he can never be one. Sad!

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    • on June 8, 2017 at 3:10 pm Sticky Burr

      Well said

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    • on June 8, 2017 at 5:25 pm mendo

      Pro-comment JJ.

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    • on June 8, 2017 at 6:56 pm Jaded Jurist

      “What we need now is a muscular Christian. To make folks sit up and notice.” – John Young, father of Scot Liddell in Chariots of Fire

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  60. on June 8, 2017 at 4:31 pm Anonymous

    Meanwhile, ‘its the season… loser jihadis gettin’ 72 virgins the only way they can. (Too bad our pussified Euro-brethren are more afraid of guns, self-defense and being called “racist” than survival.)

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  61. on June 9, 2017 at 1:48 am JenkPac Shakur

    Christianity has nothing to do with the white European race other than having served as our instrument of mental enslavement to Jewish world conquest goals for 2,000 years and going now. It is a mark of shame upon our people and something not at all to ever be proud of having been a part of or rather imposed upon us. Europe ie the white race’s soul is pagan. Our gods are The Aesir not the Jewish desert psychopaths Yahweh and Yeshua.

    We need to return to our authentic pagan roots as white people for our healing as a people to begin.

    Away from Christianity, Communism, Liberalism, the SJW movement, the hippie movement, Cultural Marxism, etc. All of these are simply Christianity’s many mutations which we need to turn away from.

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  62. on June 9, 2017 at 1:54 am JenkPac Shakur

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    • on June 9, 2017 at 3:24 am Tupla-J

      Every pagan argument against Christianity boils down to the following hilarious combo: Christians are too weak to appeal to me and I’m offended that they kicked my preferred religion’s ass without much effort. They’re advocating for even weaker failures to shield their vanity because they don’t like the demands Christianity actually makes to them.

      Christianity isn’t easy. It takes a man to do it. Someone wrote a while back that the three pillars of the West are Christianity, the traditions of germanic peoples and the legacy of the Greco-Roman world. With the genetics Notthern Europeans have I think Christianity alone would’ve sufficed, but the other two certainly didn’t hinder.

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      • on June 9, 2017 at 4:00 am JenkPac Shakur

        Christianity serves only the Jew and it’s bloody fratricidal history should prove that to any honest person or at the very least anyone with two available braincells to rub together. From the Christian Vs. Christian slaughter of the Christian Cathars, to the 30 years war of Christian Vs. Christian to the troubles in Ireland of Catholic Vs. Protestant all that Christianity has managed to do is help the Jews kill off large numbers of white people while simultaneously using the white people left over to conquer the world for Jewry handing the world over to Jews on a silver platter. There was never any white unity in Christianity and that aspect is made clear by its multitude of competing denominations. Today non white filth make up the majority of Christians while whites abandon it in droves. Whites that want to cling on to the Jewish cuckold cult of Christ may as well offer up their throats to the Jew’s muslim pets to slit as Christianity is never going to serve as any kind of effective motivating factor to turn Islam + organized Jewry away from genociding us and destroying whats left of our previous all white nations.

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      • on June 9, 2017 at 7:29 am Greg Eliot

        Christianity serves only the Jew and it’s bloody fratricidal history should prove that to any honest person or at the very least anyone with two available braincells to rub together.

        We’ve been through this dozens of times before… try rubbing two of your five brain cells together, will ya?

        Right off the top I can think of secular (politically and economically motivated) wars in the 20th century alone that make any past religious wars seem like boyhood pranks.

        And most so-called religious wars, if you dig deeper, are merely covers for secular motives.

        Fratricidal? Geez, Louise, the history of the West is White men mostly kicking White man ass, and well before Christianity at that.

        You’re just a stooge who doesn’t listen and won’t think, for all the times we’ve been through this canard… and then you have the gall to talk about brain cells?

        The White man was never enslaved by Christianity… he was EMPOWERED by it, as much as a man can be, in this world.

        It wasn’t until we stopped “clinging bitterly” to our Bibles and guns that our enthrallment to the kikes began in earnest.

        Grow the fuck up, already. :man:

        (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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  63. on June 9, 2017 at 7:00 am Divine Son of Codreanu

    Religion is the skin; underlying assumptions about the nature of man and the universe is the skeletal structure. Redpill recomposition is paramount.

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  64. on June 9, 2017 at 10:08 pm Paul Murray

    > I’m of the opinion that a religion is less an influence on culture and society than it is a manifest revelation of the genetic foundation of the people who profess belief in it.

    Very much so. It’s seldom that religion makes a bad person good – it simply gives bad people an excuse for their actions. A very fine example is American mega-churches: monuments to greed and excess. The distinctive strain of christianity – prosperity doctrine – that produced these things is a product of the culture and the people, not the other way around.

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    • on June 12, 2017 at 7:50 am H.

      Case in point, (((Joel Osteen))).

      Have you ever seen a skypier skype?

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  65. on June 19, 2017 at 6:39 am Here be Dragons | Contingent, Not Arbitrary

    […] The vague sense of dread that led me to starting this blog has matured into cosmic horror along the way. We have no idea what we are doing and trying to be clever isn’t the answer – centuries of trying to be clever is how we got into this mess in the first place. Humility is in order, lest we end up like Muhammad. […]

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