A reader dug up an old CH anti-flake tactic and wished to express his gratitude for a successful reversal.
I’m a beta trying to break out. I often peruse the CH archives for helpful advice, and it’s still there in all its glory. Let’s go back to 2009, I used this tactic on two girls with results:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/reversing-a-flake/
I deleted the second conversation, but attached is the screenshot of the first. Each time the girls had stopped responding to my messages, yet each time they immediately responded to the mcflakester comment. It resuscitated my conversations with both girls. Unfortunately my lack of game prevented me from capitalizing, but it gave me two additional chances. So far I’m 2/2 using that quote. Feel free to share this e-mail as a reminder to the readers of Le Chateau of the effectiveness of this tactic.
Implied in the reader’s enthusiasm about the “mcflakester” anti-flake line is a reminder that each of these CH Game tactics, taken individually, won’t normally seal the deal with a girl, but taken together greatly boost the chance of sheet twisting success. That’s because you can’t get anywhere with a girl if she isn’t talking with you, and one throwaway CH line can be enough to, in the reader’s words, resuscitate a dead conversation. Game is a full spectrum assault on women’s hindbrains; one artillery shell won’t win the war for reproductive entente but a barrage of shells all targeted at different limbic bunkers will open a clear path to her heart.


I honestly can’t be bothered to do follow ups with uninterested (and uninteresting) girlz. There’re simply too many other ones out there.
I met a girl for coffee once, and she was rather sexy, if incredibly conservative. So a week later, after I’d returned from a business trip, I sent her a text to arrange something. She said she was busy that night, which is always bullshit unless immediately followed by an offer of an alternative time. I left it for half an hour, then simply said “good luck.” She’ll need it.
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While it’s certainly better to be on the side of equation of nexting too fast than waiting too long, you’re leaving girls on the table if you don’t throw out one more try. It’s a text, it’s not a lot of effort
My go to for this is to reply to their text “I’m busy that night but I’m free _______” They usually ‘lol’ and respond with a free time.
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I have noticed a drop-off in dumbphone/antisocial media usage among the younger set, but it’s still a pretty safe bet that she checks her email facebook twitter buzzfeed tumblr etc. etc. several million times a day each, so if she hasn’t responded within, say, an hour, she likely never will.
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[…] Reader Field Report: Reversing A Flake […]
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you should probably black the dudes # out.
[CH: he sent it that way. ffs now i gotta put extra work in. people, if you email screenshots…due diligence!]
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This reminds me of something you sometimes see in comments: “If she has decided she’s not gonna sleep with you, X isn’t gonna make her change her mind.”
True, one factor may not usually tip the scale but it’s not always that clear. There are many cases that could go either way. And factors add up. And while women often subconsciously decide from the beginning that they won’t sleep with you, very few women decide from the beginning that they WILL sleep with you, and for these you need game.
And, even in those cases when a girl has decided things won’t go any further, a small percentage of the cases can be turned around. Case in point: I dated a girl twice, but then we talked in email and something made her decide not to see me anymore. I said sure, no problem, and I kept the tone light. Then five days later I asked if she wanted to meet me in town to do something, and she said yes. We ended up in bed at the end of the night, and we are still a couple today. She told me later that she had agreed to see me again just to smooth things over, because we would still be seeing each other through friends. But, “You were so good.” I was cheerful and polite, not a trace of disagreement. That’s how we ended up together.
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Bad idea. On the rare chance she ever googles “Flaky McFlakester” all the results are PUA stuff, which rubs off as desperation.
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How’d that game 7 go for you?
Signed,
A Pens Fan
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A throw away line like, ..’.the chance of sheet twisting success’, is what makes this the best place on the whole damn intertubz.
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Back in the day when I was clawing my way out of betadom hell I used to double down on converting flakers. I realize now it was about validation for me.
I converted a few. And got some good lessons in the wins and failures.
However over time I found that it just wasn’t worth the effort. A girl flakes because she’s just not into me or she has a bad attitude. Why spend time climbing out of that hole when there so SO MANY other girls out there who will dig me from the get-go? The same amount of effort goes much further with a girl with a good attitude. Time is limited.
Game newbies should try converting flakers. But don’t get hung up on it for validation. Throw out a line like “flakey mcflakester” from time to time. If a girl bites, game on. Keep your frame up, make her jump through some compliance hoops. If she doesn’t just next and forget.
Actually this lesson applies to all of life. Choosing carefully where to invest time/money/energy is the single most important factor for getting what you want.
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A line I’ve used to reignite convo and make fun:
Shitlord: “your new nickname is Kellogs.”
Her: “why’s that?”
ZFG: “cuz you’re flakier than Frosted Flakes.”
Playful, clever, teasing, and the implication that I might eat her for breakfast.
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