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The Myth Of The Polyamorous Bonobo

July 12, 2017 by CH

Feminists unable to tolerate evolved psychological and biological differences between the sexes, along with free love freakazoids on the supposed side of realtalk, cleave to the neoDarwinian meme that bonobo society proves polyamory is a natural instinct that humans share with them. Sexual jealously is just so gauche, don’t you see, pleb? Welcome to the polyamorous side of history!

The problem is that it’s just a feelgood meme for LSMV rejects; the actual research has discovered that bonobos aren’t polyamorous at all, they just happen to be less violent than other apes in apportioning bonobo pussy to the top male.

Bonobos have a reputation for being the peaceful, free-loving hippies of the primate world. But, researchers reporting in Current Biology on July 10 have discovered that despite friendly relations between the sexes, particular males have a surprisingly strong advantage over others when it comes to fathering offspring. For example, researchers found in one group that the most reproductively successful bonobo male fathered more than 60 percent of the next generation.

Another blast of ¡SCIENCE! leaves equalist losers rubbing their wounded egos.

The top male bonobos father most of the next generation, which means female bonobos are acutely hypergamous.

What’s interesting about bonobos is that they are less violent than chimps, but MORE polygynous, (that is, a few males get all the females). This is a puzzle for researchers because they thought female hypergamy was a downstream consequence of male dominance, i.e., “let’s you and him fight”. Men fight for women, and the women mate with whoever is left standing in the arena of genetic oblivion or survival. Bonobos show that female hypergamy itself is a decisive factor. The females don’t have to wait around for the males to duke it out; they glom onto the most charming of the bonobo PUAs.

So what do all those unloved beta male bonobos do with their extended fap-time as they watch a few alphas hoard the females? Apparently, male and female bonobos are very friendly with each other, so maybe the blue-balled beta orbiter phenomenon seen in humans evolved from bonobo females LJBBFing (let’s just be bonobo friends) their mangina males?

FRIENDZONED BY A BONOBO HO, NOW CHIMP CHICK IS MY FRIEND

The alpha male bonobos father 60% of the next generation. Imagine that degree of female hypergamy in human society. Did it exist once? Evidence is scarce, but tantalizing gene research says it did exist in the human past, to the extent that for every one man who reproduced, two women reproduced.

So, if you think beta male thirst is bad now, try envisioning a society in which half the men were lifelong incel and most of the other half had to share their women with a few harem leaders drowning in pussy. Somehow, the spark of civilization emerged from that stew of toxic hypergamy.

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  1. on July 12, 2017 at 12:26 pm Captain Obvious

    “Somehow, the spark of civilization emerged from that stew of toxic hypergamy.”

    OR: Civilization arose precisely so as to put an end to female hypergamy.

    I.e. Civilization if and only if K-Selection [1-man/1-woman].

    Barbarity if and only if R-Selection [polygamy].

    I don’t think it’s being histrionic to posit that the very fate of Civilization will depend upon the success [or failure] of Game.

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 12:31 pm Captain Obvious

      The flip side of that being that if the other races [to include the jews] are hard-wired for polygamy, then necessarily they cannot hold together a civilization over the long haul.

      Only the White race, with its Monogamy & its Universal Principles, may be capable of sustaining a civilization.

      The other races are likely hard-wired to be barbarians.

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 12:52 pm Captain Obvious

        And you wonder why, from the very beginning, we targeted the White Christian family for destruction. Idiot goyische kopfen slaves.

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 12:52 pm Augustus Tilton

        Agreed but I don’t see a problem with white men returning to polygamy for a while. It will be a neccesary phase.

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 12:59 pm Captain Obvious

        You sound like a JIDF demoralization troll.

        It took the White Race 1000 years to rebound from the collapse of Rome.

        It could take the White Race 100,000 years to rebound from the collapse of Monogamy [if the White Race could even survive it].

        Either we teach our Beta brothers Game, and they man up and grow a pair and start b!tch-slapping these straying Hamsters back into the corral, or the White Race is gonna disappear into extinction.

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 1:17 pm plumpjack

        i think in the end whites will favor civilization over digging for roots and grubs. too many of us just can’t stand living in a world where everything is broken.

        curious to see how we get there in round 2 though. I’m thinking we’ll be going Ultra ULTRA Shitlord, this time. anything goes.

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 1:36 pm Augustus Tilton

        The prospect of owning a stable of women shouldn’t demoralize any man

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 1:52 pm Captain Obvious

        “The prospect of owning a stable of women shouldn’t demoralize any man”

        Zulu Man with his Six Wives and six of his children (all pictured).

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 2:13 pm Greg Eliot

        The prospect of owning a stable of women shouldn’t demoralize any man

        So long as they kvetch with and against each other, and keep me out of it.

        “One god, THIS is I can understand. But one wife? (grimaces) It is not… generous.”

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 3:01 pm mendo

        “I have counted eight, and that is because he is traveling. At home, he has more. “

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 5:00 pm Canadian Friend

        Captain,

        about the Zulu photo…

        don’t forget that two of his wives put astronauts on the moon !

        without them we would not have rockets nor rocket science!

        (((Hollywood))) would never lie about such a thing!

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 8:09 pm Vagina dominator

        Re polyamory and open relationships and so on.

        A number of years ago I tried on a street pick up on a very attractive young woman. I failed to get her number but she took mine. This is not usually a good sign so I just forgot about it and was surprised about two weeks later to get a message from her asking me to meet her for coffee. My job at the time gave me a lot of freedom so I blew off work and went to meet her.

        I wasn’t at the coffee shop long when she turned up and she looked great. She had a lovely curvy figure, nice legs, and a sweet face. Very feminine. And she was wearing a skin-tight stretchy black knee-length dress and high heels. She had made an effort for a coffee shop meet up. A very good sign. This woman was an obvious man-pleaser.

        Well, we chatted for a while and I thought she was kind of low key or unenthusiastic but this meetup was her idea so I brushed that off and it wasn’t long before we were in a taxi to her place. She lived in a tall residential block. Getting out of the taxi she asked me to wait at the gate while she went upstairs and then she would buzz down to me to let me in. This was weird, I thought, but I figured she didn’t want to slutwalk past security. A few minutes later she buzzed me in.

        I took the lift up to her place on the 14th floor and when I knocked on her door she let me in.

        Normally, at this point, you may may go in for a kiss or you may play it cooler. But the vibe will be there and it will tell you,right? In this case, no vibe. She invites me to sit on the sofa and if I want a drink. I decline. She seems kind of disappointed by that. I am surprised to see that she has the television on and its tuned to an Australian Rules football game. Do I want to watch the footy? No thanks. I don’t really follow it. I like it, she says. I always record it for my fi*nce when he’s away. He’s an architect. He is in Dubai at the moment.

        Uh-huh.

        She continues. We’re getting m*rried next month in Bali. Do you want to come? (It’s a couple 1000’s of miles) My fi*nce loves to have lots of friends around. We have an open relationship.

        At this point, I should be thinking “awesome”. Hot girl. No strings. Absent man. Regular plate. Great. But no. Instead I am thinking, there’s something not right here.

        Well, I went there to fuck this girl (she was early twenties, I was mid-forties) so it wasn’t long before we were in the bedroom. But that was strange too because the bedroom was this small room, not much bigger than the double bed which was its only furniture. The room was kind of tacked on to the side of the building and from about knee height to ceiling height it was all glass on three sides. It had a great view. And so did the building opposite about 50 meters away.

        Getting down to the sex, this girl was great with her clothes off, smooth skin and soft mouth and I should have been rock hard, except she seemed distant, not connected, and me, I was a little uncomfortable with the situation and especially with the thought that perhaps the fi*nce wasn’t in Dubai at all but rather was in the building opposite, watching me bang out his woman.

        Anyway, I’m proud to be able to say that I was able to keep my boner and finish and I left pretty soon after. I knew I wouldn’t be back.

        A few days later I started pissing fire. I took a course of antibiotics and I was quickly ok but I was annoyed at myself. Probably the only time I have ever skipped on the condom.

        Point of this story? I don’t think this girl wanted an open relationship at all. She was just doing all of this because she thought it was what her man wanted. But it was hurting her and it was all rather sad.

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 11:30 pm King

        Somebody neglected to tell Ndugu about manspreading.

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      • on July 13, 2017 at 11:49 am Ben

        You mean Captain Oblivious.
        You’re kidding, right? The White race is heading for extinction, since it has no natural defenses against the neo-Muslim invasion.At one time you might have ridiculed the Creator’s Biblical promise of the eternality of the Jews, but on a level playing field they gain strength and increase and multiply, which is why your top priority is to never allow them a level playing field.

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 1:30 pm chris

      The rape of the Sabine women for the founding of Rome may be more than just a mythological metaphor for the founding of civilisation.

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      • on July 13, 2017 at 11:03 am Carlos Danger

        It’s plausible and probably has a strong basis in fact is my guess.

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  2. on July 12, 2017 at 12:31 pm mendo

    ¡SCIENCE! is grabbing the (((narrative))) by the pussy hard this week.

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 12:53 pm Captain Obvious

      The (((Narrative))) will never acknowledge any of this.

      BTW, have you been following the utter decimation of the Global Warming Hoax this week?

      Hundreds of millions of White schoolchildren in the USA, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, and Europe will never even learn of it.

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 12:55 pm Captain Obvious

        Study blows ‘greenhouse theory out of the water’ http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3567864/posts

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 12:56 pm Captain Obvious

        Study Finds Temperature Adjustments Account For ‘Nearly All Of The Warming’ In Climate Data http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3568156/posts

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 1:47 pm Mr. Rational

        Ye gods.  The WMD source article is so stupid I could feel my brain cells committing suicide in despair as I read it.

        Downwelling thermal IR has been a measured and quantified phenomenon since Langley, more than 150 years ago.  Nikolov and Zeller declare that it doesn’t exist (because if there are no heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, there’s nothing to radiate thermal IR back to the surface).  That puts them in flat-earth territory right there.

        And WND editors are so scientifically illiterate, they publish such utter bilge as if it’s gospel.

        The stupid, it burns.

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 1:55 pm Mr. Rational

        So I decided to check out the source of the journal, OMICS International.  What I found was no surprise a-tall.

        OMICS Publishing Group is a publisher of open access journals that is widely regarded as predatory.[2][3][4][5][6][7] It issued its first publication in 2008.[8] According to a 2012 article in The Chronicle of Higher Education about 60 percent of the group’s 200 journals had never actually published anything.[9]

        Academics and the United States government have questioned the validity of peer review by OMICS journals, the appropriateness of author fees and marketing, and the apparent advertising of the names of scientists as journal editors or conference speakers without their knowledge or permission.[3][4][5][6][7] As a result, the U.S. National Institutes of Health does not accept OMICS publications for listing in PubMed Central and sent a cease-and-desist letter to OMICS in 2013, demanding that OMICS discontinue false claims of affiliation with U.S. government entities or employees.

        Remember, one of the ways we’re divided is by both sides being indoctrinated in easily-debunked lies which now pass as dogma.  The left’s lies mostly involve things like sexual and racial equality.  This is one of the right’s lies.

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 2:04 pm Captain Obvious

        You should read the article – it’s very lengthy – WND contacted a ton of different experts, many of them skeptical.

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 2:42 pm Canadian Friend

        Mr Rational,

        English is not my first language, so correct me if I’m wrong but you are saying global warming is real…right?

        But the facts are that the temperatures that were used to convince us the planet is warming were not the real numbers…they were adjusted numbers…and of course they were adjusted to make it look as if the planet has a fever.

        What they call adjusted I call doctored.

        Almost every week we learn of another way the global warming crowd has cheated. I am no expert but I have been following this for many years, and the global warming crowd have lied and cheated a lot and the whole thing is starting to fall apart ( even though the media lying trough their teeth keep saying the planet is warmer …just like they keep saying Trump colluded with Russia to affect the election results even thoug Comey said there is NO evidence of that and no one can find any evdence of that)

        here is one from 2012, but new ones come out every week or so.

        https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2012/06/13/doctored-data-not-u-s-temperatures-set-a-record-this-year/#277b0bb96184

        And what about climategate where top people at the IPCC were caught sending each other emails that were saying and I quote ; ” hide the decline in Temperature! ”

        here is one that came out today,

        http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/07/the_global_warming_fraud_explained_in_one_simple_chart.html

        If I had the time and energy ( to waste ) I could easily find dozens if not hundreds of articles where the cheating of the global warming crowd is exposed.

        global warming is a scam.

        it was invented for a few reasons ; to tax us more ( so leftists charlatans and crooks can make money with our hard earned tax dollars ), to control us better ( the left invented the global warming scare and the left is totalitarian, it loves control ), to redistribute money from rich nations to poor nations, and last but not least…to make the USA weaker since nothing else has worked to bring the USA to its knees.

        If the USA spent the money the global warming nuts wants it to spend, the USA economy would crumble within 25 or 50 years…and even if those trillions of dollars affected climate, at best after 50 to 100 years the planet would cool by maybe one tenth of a degree.

        If global warming is real then why are they doctoring numbers ???

        30,000 deleted emails by Hillary were not enough to convince Comey, nor the media, nor the 60 million or so people who voted for Hillary that she did something wrong.

        I doubt that my posting 3 or 4 articles will change anyone’s mind.

        but if global warming is real why do we keep catching them doctoring numbers???

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 2:43 pm Canadian Friend

        long comment stuck in moderation…Fvck!!!

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 2:44 pm Canadian Friend

        will this one go trough?…

        http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/07/the_global_warming_fraud_explained_in_one_simple_chart.html

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 3:27 pm vfm#7634

        No, the study seems correct to me.

        Venus’ atmosphere is 96% CO2, yet at 50 km up, where the atmospheric pressure is the same as Earth’s, the temperature is the same as Earth’s.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus#/media/File:Venusatmosphere.svg

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 7:03 pm wolfie65

        Of course global warming is real.
        For a while.
        Then, it cools again, for one reason or the other.
        Based on the models I’ve seen, we are currently in a warming period that started around 1800, at which time mean temps were somewhat below average and had been for about 4-500 years.
        At this very moment, we seem to be ever so slightly above average, but nowhere near the Common Era high of about 12-1300.
        Musta been a heckuva lot warmer still when the dinosaurs were around, eating leaves the size of school buses……

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      • on July 13, 2017 at 10:30 am Mr. Rational

        I had to break up my response to Captain Obvious and Canadian Friend into pieces to get it to post.  I put it down at the bottom to make it easier to read and so replies would indent.

        Link to part 1
        Link to part 2

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      • on July 13, 2017 at 10:34 am Mr. Rational

        Venus’ atmosphere is 96% CO2, yet at 50 km up, where the atmospheric pressure is the same as Earth’s, the temperature is the same as Earth’s.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus#/media/File:Venusatmosphere.svg

        That’s not what it says.  It says the temp at 50 km is 75°C.  I’m sure we’d all find that rather unpleasant.

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      • on July 13, 2017 at 10:54 am Mr. Rational

        I have a long 2-part reply stuck in moderation, and the brief comment above my previous one linking to it is too.

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      • on July 13, 2017 at 7:40 pm Mr. Rational

        Still not out of moderation, 11 hours later.

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      • on July 14, 2017 at 11:13 am Mr. Rational

        24 hours later, and still.

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      • on July 15, 2017 at 9:57 pm Mr. Rational

        48 hours and STILL not out of moderation.

        Come on, mod. Are you trying to suppress truths you don’t like? Isn’t this the place where pretty lies perish, not where they’re carefully protected?

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      • on July 17, 2017 at 9:42 am Mr. Rational

        For pete’s sake, it’s FOUR DAYS and you haven’t taken them out of moderation yet.

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 5:07 pm Canadian Friend

      … grabbing the (((narrative))) by the pussy…

      That’s funny, it could be on a t-shirt!

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  3. on July 12, 2017 at 12:40 pm The Myth Of The Polyamorous Bonobo | @the_arv

    […] The Myth Of The Polyamorous Bonobo […]

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  4. on July 12, 2017 at 12:42 pm CBR600RR_Rider

    didn’t Jordan Peterson in the video posted yesterday commented on this? chimp females are not hypergamous, rather the dominant male(s) fight off the pussy competition, no?

    [CH: apparently, in the case of bonobos, he was off the mark. (imo, the human sexual market is a mix of the direct action of female hypergamy on mate choice and the indirect action of male dominance battles with whom females are paired off.)]

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 1:05 pm Ponce du Lion

      Sexual selection says that a trait that makes one sex reproduce more, over the time will be recognized as attractive by the other sex.

      Bonobo females can boost their genetic expansion by mixing their dna with an alpha, the offspring will be alpha and more genetically expansionist, propagating also the female half of the offspring’s DNA.

      I am trying to say that females hypergamy is a mechanical consequence of evolution which is a mechanical consequence of the universe. But if hypergamy is a biomechanical must, Is it male counterpart “polygyny”?

      Anti-territorial, liberal, beta, self-destructive white males point to the necessity of polygyny/hypergamy. A necessity that will be implemented in nature’s term aka feminism, sexual bolshevism, racial replacement or in White Man’s term, but having no avoiding.

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 1:06 pm Ponce du Lion

      Sexual selection says that a trait that makes one sex reproduce faster over the time will be recognized as attractive by the other sex.

      Bonobo females can boost their genetic expansion by mixing their dna with an alpha, the offspring will be alpha and more genetically expansionist, propagating also the female half of the offspring’s DNA.

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 1:19 pm Ponce du Lion


      My White Man’s terms are the next: define alphaness, define betaness(remember women will be attracted over time to what ever trait correlates to more reproduction). Ban betas from having boys they can only have girls. The opposite for alphas. The next generation will be polygamy and hypergamy but won’t be lone males due to the skewed sex ratio. Repeat one yes one no.

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 1:30 pm Ponce du Lion


      My White Man’s terms are the next: define alphaness, define betaness(remember women will be attracted over time to whatever trait correlates to more reproduction). Ban betas from having boys they can have only girls. The opposite for alphas. The next generation will be polygamy and hypergamy but won’t be lone males due to the skewed sex ratio. Repeat one yes one no.

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 6:33 pm King

      It’s encouraging to see Peterson’s reputation grow in these quarters because he is the only evolutionary psychologist worth listening to. He has a firm grasp on the difference between science and ¡SCIENCE! (scientism), and he is honest enough to understand the difficulties that most evolutionists elide in their pursuit of nerdboy triumphalism of the Neil-DaGroid-Tyson and I-FUKKING-LOVE-SYUNCE varieties.

      And because of that honesty, there is reason to hope that somebody can dissuade the Darwinists away from the dogmatic epistemology that will ruin them as an counteractive force against the totalitarian and nihilist temptations with which they would otherwise align themselves. I have sounded the alarm bells about this poison-center of the red pill ever since I’ve had voice to, that alliance with these leftist temptations is a suicide pact.

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 6:38 pm King

        If you have the ears to hear, devote just 30 minutes of your time (or better, make it 15 by downloading the Jordan Peterson podcast episode #04 and listen at 2x) to understanding the fatal vulnerability of “not being Darwinian enough.”

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 6:42 pm King

        And if you’re truly inspired, contrast Peterson’s 8D thought process against the shallow dipshittery of perhaps the most articulate of the priests of scientism, Scam Harris:

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 8:09 pm Dark Triumvir

        Matt, I am fascinated to find that you align with Peterson regarding science, religion and truth.

        I must confess that my brain has been shaped like that of an empirical scientist, such that Peterson’s definition of “truth” initially appeared to me to be a non-sequitur.

        However, I fully understand his view now. Peterson views all truth be be based upon THE truth, or revealed truth in Christian terms. Very simply, if the truth does not lead to good, then it is a falsehood disguised as truth.

        This view is extremely philosophical, and very difficult to promulgate to hard headed atheists.

        Here is why.

        We have truths that are observable and neither good nor evil, which we call “empirical truth”. These empirical truths are what Sam Harris is ardently defending in his scientific approach. It is indeed logically consistent, and in fact, the only way to view “truth” from the perspective of a scientist, who is merely a rational empiricist.

        In order to reach Peterson’s “revealed truth”, we must add another layer of analysis on top of the empirical truth. The empirical truth, by itself, is neither good nor evil, but simply what we or any other existence observes in the physical world. For example, a dog is just as subject to gravity, thermodynamics and biology as we are. We can state a great many empirical truths about something without any need to question whether it is good or evil. In fact, we can state empirical truths about things which are unaffected by good or evil, such as distant stars and celestial bodies.

        Thus to reach revealed truth, we must emphasize that it only applies to mankind, and only the version of mankind we know to have existed in recent memory. We can then judge whether an empirical truth is good or evil. For example, revealing Darwin’s theory of natural selection can clearly be viewed as evil, because it leads to nihilism and human despair. Thus, can be seen as a revealed falsehood.

        But the key point to understand is that empirical truth exists quite independently of revealed truth, and in fact, applies not just to humans but to all existence. An alien race or an intelligent robot will agree on the same empirical truths, but each will have radically different sets of revealed truths.

        As to which is more important?

        At this point, the west is in dire need of revealed truth. We have had far too much empirical truth without the corresponding revealed truths to temper the nihilism which results from a raw empirical understanding of the universe devoid of any human considerations.

        Harris is attempting to create revealed truths, which he calls morals, based on empirical truth. Whether this is achievable is quite up for debate, though my intuition says it is folly. Peterson on the other hand, is starting from revealed truth, and thus has an advantage in that every fact he espouses is based upon its propensity for good.

        I will fully admit that science has failed us in the quest for revealed truth. Atheists like Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins have destroyed the scaffolding of human societies without offering any suitable alternatives. This has proven disastrous, and man’s soul has suffered immensely as a result. The path to salvation is unclear to me, but it most certainly is closer to the quest for revealed truth than to the blind promulgation of empirical truth.

        TL;DR: The wages of sin is death. 

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 9:08 pm King

        Matt, I am fascinated to find that you align with Peterson regarding science, religion and truth.

        I am not sure I align myself completely with him because, to his credit, he hasn’t posited anything beyond a tentative or “working” conclusion “for now” — much less declared himself for the faith. And yet that admitted agnosticism is the best place for a man, cursed by the modern sickness that makes one believe he and his intellect is in this alone, to be and lightyears ahead of the much larger crowd of smug sophists who not only put on airs of knowing everything but actually believe that they just might have cracked the code themselves. His operating methodology has been naturally socratic — all I know is I know nothing. And he has become wise because of it.

        What remains for Peterson is to take the leap and accept “substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen,” which little children can do better than pitiful, aged intellectuals burdened with the idea of their own brilliance. Peterson has discovered the holy grail of scholarly investigation, which is the truth of religion. (Google “The queen of the sciences.”) What those too afraid to take the leap misunderstand is that once you skip ahead, there is no divine sanction against going back to honestly investigate the reasonableness of taking the leap.

        Religion skips to the end, to the ultimate things, to the foundational conclusions without a working understanding of which nobody can operate. “It is impossible to live without a metaphysic” — A. Huxley. To people who devote their entire lives to carving out a different path to the same exact place, faith seems like an unfair, unearned privilege. And I suppose it is. We are so much dumber! And lazier! We don’t deserve access to the same wisdom!

        For instance, you and I can say “the wages of sin is death” and live by it, but the intellectual has to scribble and struggle and strain his brain before acknowledging the truth that a drop of humility would have given him access to as a elementary school kid. The intellectual, the overeducated and hyperrational, the Darwinist, the young Peterson, has to reconstruct the universe of morality, has to study the behavior of lobsters and orangutans, and has to build up a Tower of Babel before satisfying himself that his effort was commensurate with the profundity of that truth, and that not only does such (unnecessary) effort give him access to truth, but that he has earned and deserves its sweetness.

        The tragic irony of supple minds creates in them a greater and more feverish investment in their own vanity rather than the truth, which is the curse of the knowledge of good and evil. The truth requires them to start over, and they scoff at the Church’s cheat code as unbecoming a mind of their stature. They get older and no nearer their life’s goal, they become desperate and bitter and eventually despairing. Peterson was given the grace to escape this trap — maybe. He understands that Lucifer is always the intellectual, he has heeded the church’s warning against fashioning rationality into an idol above God and one’s faith in God. But as always, it remains for him alone to unite his will to The Way, The Truth, and The Life and thereby complete his salvation.

        Deus caritas est,— that is all / Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 9:17 pm King

        We have truths that are observable and neither good nor evil, which we call “empirical truth”. These empirical truths are what Sam Harris is ardently defending in his scientific approach. It is indeed logically consistent, and in fact, the only way to view “truth” from the perspective of a scientist, who is merely a rational empiricist.

        Peterson’s masterstroke is to call these guys out for their insufficient Darwinism and label them as the Newtonians that they are in the last analysis. I doubt his shiv will wake them from their dogmatic slumber, invested so heavily as they are in the sophistries that gave them a livelihood, a reputation, and an identity. Sad!

        Unfortunately, Peterson also is too full o’ the milk of Canadian kindness to eviscerate these charlatans like he should. On the other hand, that same humility has allowed him to level-up his metaphysics, so it’s just as well.

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 8:22 pm King

      This is the modern version of How Many Angels Fit on the Head of a Pin among gynetheologists.

      And the worst part about this seductively destructive dogma is how it leads smart people like CH to rely on the fantastical speculations of nerds rather than 1) his own solid instinct and 2) personal conclusions based on first-hand observation and homegrown perception/wit. Incredibly, this lion of the social scene is allowing the imaginative constructions of the runts of the pack to overrule his own gut.

      And what does personal observation/gut say? That it doesn’t matter at all what one group of animals do in some nigger jungle far away, that the the sexual revolution has thrown all reliable patterns of behavior into chaos, and that in such chaos, the human female has lost the power of genetic judgment once granted them by civilization, and alpha men like him are now the selectors while everyone else is just flailing.

      What else but a denial of instinct could explain, for instance, the advice that aspirational alphas should “bust a move,” i.e., voluntarily submit themselves and their monkeyshines to the judgment of the female like a literally quixotic white-knighting cuckservative, as though this chivalrous shibboleth could obtain in the apocalyptic landscape of the postmodern sexual marketplace? Did some dork somewhere note in his scientistic report that he saw a chimp “bustamove” once?

      No, the alpha qua alpha demonstrates his alphatude for the general audience — he manifestly does not perform magic tricks for the individual “one set” — and then sits back and disinterestedly (almost cruelly) selects from among the women who throw themselves (or, if obstacles warrant, their panties) at him. Did Elvis ever have to run “The Cube” routine on the girls who clamored to get backstage? Did the Donald ever waste time reading palms before grabbing pussy (they let you do it)?

      I mean, studying the behavior of animals is interesting to a certain type of knowledge cataloguer, I suppose. But when does game achieve the maturity of accepting the now voluminous and above all practical observations independent of the inane theories once popularized by the cross-dressing Canadian Dorkgod “Mystery” Markovic twenty years ago, and come into its own? When do we get to stop sniffing monkeys’ assholes and start taking over the world, teach?

      Matt

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      • on July 12, 2017 at 9:27 pm mendo

        But when does game achieve the maturity of accepting the now voluminous and above all practical observations independent of the inane theories once popularized by the cross-dressing Canadian Dorkgod “Mystery” Markovic twenty years ago, and come into its own? When do we get to stop sniffing monkeys’ assholes and start taking over the world, teach?

        This passage encapsulates a point I’ve reached much better than my scattered thoughts were able to. However, I find myself falling into a vicious cycle of questioning myself because I am at once I’m new to game and yet over time I’ve realized as I read fellow comments and the CH repositories, I had understood some of the underlining concepts of game, but just didn’t know how to put the pieces together to see the whole picture.

        In short, it’s paralysis by analysis and looking back on my life, I was at my strongest when I just riffed to riff, mainly for my own amusement and if a woman was lining up with my vibing, great. But those types of coordinations were few and far between.

        Time to just grip and rip it again. As Han Solo once said: Never tell me the odds.

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  5. on July 12, 2017 at 12:46 pm sigsawyer

    Not to mention that the population of bonobos is tiny compared to chimps. They live in an isolated patch of forest as they were essentially outcompeted by their warlike chimp cousins.

    [CH: true. there are ten times as many chimps as there are bonobos, although bonobos live in larger troops than do chimps.]

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 1:03 pm Captain Obvious

      “CH: true. there are ten times as many chimps as there are bonobos”

      It sounds like rewarding Betas with their own Mates is a very successful evolutionary strategy for the larger-brained species.

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 1:15 pm Captain Obvious

      “although bonobos live in larger troops than do chimps”

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 1:35 pm chris

      Bonobo’s live on the other side of the Congo river where the Chimpanzee’s can’t get to them. That is why they still survive. Without that separation they’d be extinct.

      [CH: borders work.]

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 6:16 pm Malgo

      Bonobos are both less robust than Chimps and have significantly lower tool usage.

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 7:23 pm King

      I am all for using the left’s weapons against them — freeze them, isolate them, polarize them, make them live up to their own creed — but evo psych is making a handshake deal with the jew.

      You and HBD are hoping to definitively prove that race is real by positing a shitlord dogma contrary to their shitlib dogma and hoping it will win the day by more forceful assertion. But by accepting the rules of the game you have already lost. Because it is a game rigged against you.

      They rig the game by getting you to agree that “science” will be the standard against which our claims will prevail or fall. But as an epistemology, the scientific method is not falsifiable, and so it will forever be subject to “evidence” whose legitimacy over which the enemy claims to be the final judge.

      They are already doing this, and brazenly, making official declarations about the legitimacy of unfalsifiable claims they favor like global warming and “gender” selection, while announcing the illegitimacy of very falsifiable claims they detest like the genetic component of IQ and sexual dimorphism. The provability — the evidence — has nothing to do with their power maneuvering, and there is nothing they would like better than for us to exhaust ourselves on studiously compiling evidence they will first ignore as irrelevant and then use to condemn us as heretics.

      We have to be smarter than the jew, we have to dig deeper than he has, or be victim to his pitfall.

      We have to become conscious of the enemy’s sinister sophistry by which we blond beasts have nobly-naively volunteered ourselves to be snared.

      Get in touch with your wolf pack alpha and tell the charlatans to get fucked. We don’t care what their test tubes and self-reporting surveys say; getting more reliable test tubes and our own “unskewed” polls is just playing into their hands. They will have us preoccupied by their trickery unto our own extinction. Tell them they are #FakeScience and declare not just indifference to their methods and conclusions by a positive enmity toward it.

      They have used ¡SCIENCE! as the curtain to conceal their slow-motion genocide. Rend the curtain, and get mad! Get mad! They are killing your families and your children and your people. Don’t write up a laboratory report and hope it somehow peaceably unlearns them of their will to murder! Cave their goddamned skulls in! They aren’t at the door anymore — they are in your son’s cradle, sucking his blood.

      Matt

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      • on July 13, 2017 at 11:57 am Ben

        Sure, be a big boy about the Jews while laughing Muslims pimp out and gang rape and violate impregnate your women. You’ll be bowing to Mecca, it won’t be long.

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  6. on July 12, 2017 at 12:50 pm Augustus Tilton

    Are we talking about the Obamas’ love life? Kek

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  7. on July 12, 2017 at 1:09 pm Nads

    When the alpha male can conscript the male population, you will get the difference in male to female reproduction. You get the added bonus of siring the next generation of your conquered enemy.

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  8. on July 12, 2017 at 1:14 pm RikF

    “for every one man who reproduced, two women reproduced.”

    I remember reading about a year ago that around 8000 years ago, somewhere, that ratio was actually 1 – 17, not 1 – 2. Can’t find the source right now, though.

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 4:11 pm Ironsides

      I wonder how the ratio breaks down by race. I’m sure they’re cramming everyone together under one heading.

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 7:08 pm wolfie65

      1-17 seems rather extreme – unless you’re talking rock concert numbers, 17 groupies for 1 lead singer – based on real life observations, I’d guess somewhere around 1-4 or 1-5.
      I’m pretty convinced that a healthy percentage of men who think they are f@th3rs really aren’t.

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  9. on July 12, 2017 at 1:23 pm Ponce du Lion

    Mod passed this time?

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  10. on July 12, 2017 at 1:28 pm Sean Fielding

    Feminists won’t give up on loving the bonobo model, though. CH: ‘the end-goal of feminism is to maximize female reproductive choice while minimizing male’s.’ Hypergamy means that situation equates to a small % of males getting most of the main action. Like bonobos.

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  11. on July 12, 2017 at 1:44 pm YIH

    https://www.dailystormer.com/black-africans-are-genetically-closer-to-bonobos-than-to-white-humans/

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 2:55 pm JironGhrad

      Interesting, that in that genetic bit (and in the original article), there isn’t ANY overlap between white and black; plenty of overlap between black and bonobo though.

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  12. on July 12, 2017 at 1:54 pm Sean Fielding

    I went to the original paper and found something very interesting:

    “If not an effect of the numbers of competing males or simultaneously receptive females, how did high-ranking males more effectively monopolize reproduction in bonobos than chimpanzees? One possibility is that higher levels of male aggression in chimpanzees actually decrease reproductive skew.”

    Worth reading on from there, but get that?

    The MORE patriarchal (aggressive) species, the chimps, had more reproductive equality.

    I’ll say it here: civilization is nothing more nor less than a pact by men to reign in female hypergamy and force women to breed with men who are quality men by MEN’s standards.

    egalitarcell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(17)30575-4?_returnURL=http%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0960982217305754%3Fshowall%3Dtrue

    [CH: very interesting, and confirms plenty of core Chateau tenets.]

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  13. on July 12, 2017 at 2:28 pm CalvinDecline

    I’ve always wondered if, to some extent, a girl “friend zones” a guy just so she can have a shot at other guys (the friends of the dude she friend zoned).

    Being way more social (and having to rely on others for protection) it seems to almost go against a woman’s nature to straight up deny the opportunity for a friendship, unless of course the guy is so socially inept that being seen with him would hurt her chances at future romance.

    Adding another person to her circle means more chances to meet alpha dudes she wouldn’t have ever met.

    Same reason so many guys preach about “social circle game”. It’s easier because it’s the same technique the ladies are using when perusing the sexual market for new goods.

    ..this isn’t all to say there aren’t demented harpies that don’t take full advantage of the friend zone.

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 7:11 pm wolfie65

      You’re overthinking the Friend Zone.
      It’s a rejection she hopes ‘won’t hurt his feelings’………
      He might come in handy when she needs to flee from Chad McTallHawt

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  14. on July 12, 2017 at 2:51 pm chizbro

    Not to put too fine a point on it, but those historical (and pre-historical) “beta” males might have been dead, rather than incel. Primative societies are notorious for killing males via raid and/or feud, and capturing females as slaves and concubines.

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  15. on July 12, 2017 at 3:06 pm tteclod

    I hypothesize that lack of violence leads to polyamorous societies. For example, if prohibition against violence is so string that infidelity goes unpunished and society prohibits cuckolds from taking vengeance, then women and cads may act without fear.

    Introduce violence and the infidelity equation changes in favor of loyalty.

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  16. on July 12, 2017 at 4:17 pm The Myth Of The Polyamorous Bonobo | Reaction Times

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  17. on July 12, 2017 at 4:40 pm irishsavant

    Surely the 60% fatherhood ratio must give rise to consanguinity problems in the next generation? The bonobos could turn out to be like Pakistanis.

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  18. on July 12, 2017 at 4:50 pm Thursday

    Study has very small n. Could be a fluke. Razib agrees.

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 6:04 pm Malgo

      Won’t let go of those Noble Savages huh?

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  19. on July 12, 2017 at 5:28 pm Random Guy

    A place where half of society are incels and the other half has to share their women with the harem leaders?

    You sure you’re not talking about Japan?

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    • on July 12, 2017 at 6:09 pm Malgo

      It’s what happens when you stop imposing (or impose less) restrictions on woman’s sexuality.

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  20. on July 12, 2017 at 8:26 pm g2-90e826d06399789c7a456090eac3a1e3

    And I would add that cuckholding also only makes sense in the context of the value of paternal investment. The animal pair bonding most similar to humans (including the occasional cheating by females) actually occurs among *birds*, which tend to have the same issues with very helpless offspring where paternal investment is valuable.

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  21. on July 12, 2017 at 9:43 pm Based Papist

    “The top male bonobos father most of the next generation, which means female bonobos are acutely hypergamous.”

    Wrong. Another way this happens- and its common in most mammals – the top male physically ensures this through violence against other males. Humans are unusual in the outsize role that female choice plays in mate selection.

    Also: male approach fear is not a fear of female rejection. Its a primal fear of violence by other males.

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  22. on July 13, 2017 at 11:05 am Matamoros

    If you haven’t read this on bonobos you should. The real reason for black dyscivilizational behaviour.

    The bonobo genome compared with the chimpanzee and human genomes

    http://www.nature.com/articles/nature111281

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    • on July 16, 2017 at 8:32 am jabowery

      This link works:

      https://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v486/n7404/full/nature11128.html

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  23. on July 14, 2017 at 7:44 am jabowery

    Civilization is socially imposed hypogamy, down to say “only” 4 wives in Islam. Western civilization’s socially imposed hypogamy went down to only 1 wife in the form of Christian restriction on “noble” males, including kings and church “princes”. Paleolithic Europeans had ecologically imposed monogamy — simply not enough insolation to photosynthesize a high areal caloric availability. The neolithic provided enough calories to support polygamy — and probably did so for a thousand years or so in some places (LBK culture comes to mind) but then the pastoralist herders — much closer to forager cultures — instituted formalized natural duel in response to agriculture and proceeded to spread and wipe out cultures that were attempting to become “civilized” with agriculturally enabled polygamy (read pozzed). The Jews managed to extend their trading networks into Germanic territories by having “JudeoChristianity” outlaw natural duel in exchange for the “nobility” being dogmatically limited to one wife. This was, of course, violated with “mistresses” and “courtesans”, but the illegitimate issue of such matings were rarely, if ever, more numerous than those of Islamic elites, and they were ineligible for pretensions. Jews had no such official restrictions until an Ashkenazi proclamation of monogamy by Rabbi Gershom about 1000 years ago which has recently expired — quite conveniently as it turns out — since so-called “serial monogamy” emerging since the 60s is more properly called “de facto polygamy” — and the emerging Jewish dominance of US institutions placed its men in the position of harem masters of corporate concubines. Even before the 60s, the loosening of divorce laws permitted female hypergamy to begin to emerge as is evident by looking at census statistics on divorce.

    My read on the Trump phenomenon is that the attack on Western civilization by Jews — particularly since Gershom’s ban has been lifted — was getting out of hand to the point that Jews were starting to feel the heat from Africans. My 2012 MR post talks about this in terms of “Pan Western Fascism”:

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/beyond_leo_strauss_and_alisa_zinovyevna_rosenbaum

    The proximate symptom of this is a conflict between two Jewish power elites —
    the cultural Marxist “permanent State” (aka “Deep State”) and ZOG. ZOG wants to loosen the thumbscrews on the goy before Jews start sliding up and down a big black cock so long that it comes out of their mouths. The Deep State, founded by Frankfurt School denazification intellectuals, has been totally “Africanized” aka pozzed — its salad tossed like a punk owned by a black prison gang — and just cann’t get enough sexual degeneracy spread throughout Western civilization. This is just in time for the population explosion in Africa — defying “The Demographic Transition” — to spread across open borders to take over the world.

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