Courtesy of tteclod (who justifiably labels this “the shiv of truth”), the 1959 Met Life “desirable weight” tables for American men and women.
If you’re a dedicated weightlifter with serious muscle, these sorts of tables won’t apply to you. You’d be better off measuring body fat % directly.
These ideal weight MetLife tables from 1959 are funny in a “oh my god what have we lost gained?!?” way, when one ponders that the average weight of an average height American White woman in 2002 was 162 pounds (sadly, a weight which has gone higher since then).
Compare that weight to what was considered the ideal weight for an average height (5′ 3″), medium frame American woman in 1959:
110 – 122 pounds.
Like I’ve said, White beta males had it good before America began her transformation into a gynarchic festival of blubber, gogrrlism, and man-hate right around 1970.
The beta male of 1959 was banging, marrying, and cherishing women a full 46 pounds lighter on average than the women available to the beta male of 2002.
That’s the sensate difference between banging a UG4 and an HB8. In erection terms, it’s the difference between sporting a half-chub that goes soft in her after two pumps versus a granite steel-tipped hard-on that jabs her cervix and impregnates her with shitlord quadruplets. In love terms, it’s the difference between a garbage hour pickup and post-jizz ghost versus a three month courtship and a sappy poem written in calligraphy which you learned in a class you took specifically to impress her. In marital terms, it’s the difference between vidja gaming and porn versus signing the line that is dotted…with exuberant flourish.
And tradcons furrow their fiveheads in puzzlement trying to understand why American men have dropped out of the marriage market.
I’ll keep my reply to them brief.
IT’S THE ECONOMY OF FEMALE, STUPID.
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Broke down and finally joined a gym.
Tons of courses and me and my pal are almost the only males in them.
Cheezus fuck guys, paying to do manual labor feels stupid enough.
But then ACTIVELY AVOIDING the tightest girls by lonely pumping around on all those torture machines.. I don´t even.
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German women respond well to shitlords. I get a lot of attention at Hugendubel. Start walking around with the bearing of an SS man. I am serious. Jochen Peiper today would swim in pussy. Back then he just had a hot wife.
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A friend of mine used to work there.
Recently, he had to relocate to north of the Weißwurstequator (which separates southern Germany from The North….) because his lifelong home had simply gotten too expensive.
He tells me I would be shocked if I saw Germany today – it’s like a different planet.
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No wonder German girls today pine to be the third wife of some violent-ass jihad bastard from Syria…
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friend of mine used to work there.
Recently, he had to relocate to north of the Weißwurstequator (which separates southern Germany from The North….) because his lifelong home had simply gotten too expensive.
He tells me I would be shocked if I saw Germany today – it’s like a different planet.
The Fussgaengerzone in Weisbaden consists of Kirchgasse and several sidestreets and goes down to Schlossplatz. The first few blocks of Kirchgasse, where Kaufhof, H&M, Karstadt, Douglass and several other anchor stores are is 355 foreign on a good day and 65% on most. Germans go out now at different times and stick to the more idyllic side streets. I see tons of women in burkhas, weighing 350 pounds and with several children. The usual array of mafia controlled beggars is now common too. It is not quite so bad in the villages but still bad enough. Germans will either be cucked or as I predict, a small group will reconquer the nation once the degree of hopelessness the government has wrought sinks in. I saw a Generation Identitaire sticker on the street lamp post the other day. That was good.
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And tradcons furrow their fiveheads in puzzlement trying to understand why American men have dropped out of the marriage market.
Acting like Ward Cleaver pays off because it means you will get to have the big, big prize of the used up cast-offs of some “bad boy” (sic):
But wait, there’s more!:
When you turn that ho into a housewife, you’ll have the benefits of working longer hours, becoming a slave to your job and spending less time with your friends!
Offers are limited so don’t wait, call now!
Call 1-800-SAVE-A-HO!
That’s 1-800-SAVE-A-HO!
Call now!
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Married men work more because they have to. They make more money and have less disposable income.
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Stupifying infographic videos. Media indoctrinates girls to assume that a woman who has had her fill of bad boys is in a position to dictate a litany of qualifications a man must bring to the table in order to marry her. Never do they enumerate the consequences of whoring.
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Let’s review one more time how great the 50s were…..
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Never trust fatties!
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It’s a well-known fact that once a woman gets married, she packs on the pounds.
Modern feminism means women are married to Uncle Sam. Ergo, they start going all fat Elvis early and rarely stop.
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The most impactful contributor to the wellbeing of my marriage was an obstetrician/gynecologist who unapologetically explained the impact of obesity to my wife upon the commencement of her first pregnancy. A decade later, she lost weight to improve her term-life rate. Men, the Shiv of Truth saves lives.
I wish Heartiste had been here in ’96 to save me a wasted decade. I’ll never get back those easy muscle-gain years, or the years when I might have managed huge career advances.
PS: I’m publicly shamed into losing more from my waist.
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Speaking of UG4, I had an experience yesterday that unnerved me. For some reason, I was checking out every woman I saw. The 6 was captivating. The 7 held my eyes such that I couldn’t look away. The 5’s looked positively delicious. The 4 that I was imagining banging set off my alarm. WTF?
Had to count it out. One of those unusual periods: haven’t gotten any in three weeks. Wasn’t thinking about it as I’ve had a busy series of event keeping out of action, but then one quick trip to Costco and I’m suddenly swimming in punanny that I don’t actually want.
Be cautious in your dry spells. It’ll mess up your calibration.
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Was it a sunny day?
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Sounds like you’ve taken no-fap a li’l too far.
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Back on topic: the Green Revolution happened just before the 1970 marker, which put, for the first time in all of human history, plenty of inexpensive food on the table for everyone in the West. We’ve never had life so easy. We have machines that do most of our labor, and enough food to feed four times as many children as our grandparents could comfortably feed. Yet we don’t have kids.
Humanity thrives on the struggle to survive. The more desperate the struggle, the more satisfying the success. With no struggle necessary, people are falling apart.
[CH: pithy.]
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Stay away from grains in general, but even so, modern wheat is crap. We got that starting in the 1960s.
https://authoritynutrition.com/modern-wheat-health-nightmare/
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Stay away from grains in general, but even so, modern wheat is crap. We got that starting in the 1960s.
https://authoritynutritiondotcom/modern-wheat-health-nightmare/
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Struggle will soon be back in style.
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FatterBetter living through chemicals and automation.Let’s review yet again how great the 50s were.
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It’s grating all those christcucks and conservacucks with their “man up” crap now knowing what it is they are telling younger fellows what to man up for.
Hambeasts are disgusting and no man in his right mind want to start out with a fatty who is only going to get worse. It’s bad enough that there is nothing to stop a non-lardass from turning into one later.
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It’s the sound of cucks cucking.
Cuckcuckcuckcuckcuck
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I recently wrote a book review of The Big Sleep by Raymond Chandler (published 1939) focusing on this very point. I didn’t see that chart (I wish I had), because it slams home my point.
Here’s one of Chandler’s characters describing a man in the novel:
“In his early forties, I should judge. Medium height, fattish. Would weigh about a hundred and sixty pounds. Fat face, Charlie Chan moustache, thick soft neck. Soft all over.”
As I said in my review: “In the 1930s, a medium height guy was ‘fattish’ and ‘soft all over’ at 160 lbs (72.6 kg). Fattish and soft.”
According to Infogalactic, the average American woman is now four pounds heavier than a fat guy of average height in the 1930s.
Read the whole review here: https://dystopiasoak.blogspot.com/2017/05/medium-height-fattish-big-sleep-by.html
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The ’50s tables are for women wearing 2-inch heels, so you want to read the line for 5’5″ to get the figure for the then-average 5’3″ ’50s woman. Women today are about an inch taller and have a 50th percentile weight (which is lower than the average weight) of ~150lb for age 20 to 29. (Anthropometric Reference Data for Children and Adults: United States, 2011–2014, CDC 2016)
The middle of the medium-frame 5’6″ entry (really 5’4″) on the ’50s chart is about 128lb, so today’s pre-wall women are really only about 22 lbs. heavier than they used to be. About 25% of women in their 20s now are at or below 128lbs.. For BMI the female aged 20s 50th-% is 25.6 and the 25th-% is 21.9. For waist circumference the figures (heh) are: 34.2in and 30.7in. The thickest 25% of women in their 20s now have over 39.4-inch waists.
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I noticed the 2″ heels proviso also. It does bend the numbers when comparing generations, but I had to laugh – when was the last time you saw a woman in 2″ heels somewhere other than a club? It is like seeing a man in a fedora, coat and tie at a Cubs game.
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That’s a bit of the issue. Women aren’t encouraged to dress in comfortable, yet feminine, attire. American and European fashion in the mid century was defined by the pencil skirt, feminine shift dresses, matching jackets, and a low heel for walking. You can thank the gays for trashing up the fashion industry to a point where women can’t walk comfortably to take a stroll and think 5 inch porn star heels with a platform are appropriate office attire.
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These numbers are a bit low, because in 1959, everybody, including women, smoked like a tire fire.
That doesn’t account for an increase of 46 pounds, however.
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Don’t forget “Mother’s Little Helper” and “Diet Pills”. Chainsmokers and speedfreaks, ramming the 50lb. Hoover round the house like a demon.
Maybe it should all be made fashionable again?
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That chart shows the ideal weight, not the average weight, so smoking probably didn’t factor into it. Also, if the goalposts have shifted since then to less stringency, they it really, really, really, must be justified because all of the other medial goalposts have been shifting in the other direction. Hell, back then, a blood pressure reading anywhere under 200/100 was not even considered serious enough to merit treatment, and the idea of the supposed role of high cholesterol levels in causing heart disease was only beginning to gain traction. (There are those who might argue that the cholesterol/heart disease theory is bunk, and maybe they’re right, but that’s not the point. The point is that the overall trend has been toward more stringency, not less. Just wanted to make that clear because I’m sure that if I don’t, some dipshit who can’t think abstractly is going to come along and say something about it and then I’m going to have to wast my time arguing with him.)
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1524-6175.2006.05836.x/pdf
http://jn.nutrition.org/content/128/2/449S.full
http://jn.nutrition.org/content/128/2/449S.full
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Junk food diets and snacks have undoubtedly contributed to the weight gain, but how much of the gain has been due to the shift in ethnic mix in the US? The growing percentage of square shaped mestizos, blacks, Pacific Islanders and so forth must have had an effect as well. My wife’s family are blond blue eyed people of pure German ancestry and 95% of them would fall inside the 1959 desirable weight guidelines.
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And this is the weight with indoor clothes on.
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In the 50’s a huge percentage of the population smoked……which diminishes appetite…..which means people eat less….which means the average weight will be lower. Factor in the fact that the fast food industry was in it’s infancy and what was normal 60 years ago is not normal now.
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Smoking jacks up your metabolism too. I found that out when I quit a two pack thirty year habit fifteen years ago. Put on the pounds, I did.
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Trump is fat
[CH: he’s gotten leaner since his glorious inauguration.]
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Overfed undernourished. Overtitillated undersexed. Overmedicated unhealthy. Drowning in information and shiny things. Dumb as fuck with zero real wealth.
How do you get off this giant feed lot?
Refuse to be a cow or a farm hand. Make yourself a lion.
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My wife has been working as a grocery cashier. #1 food product sold is soft drinks, followed by chips and beer. Half the customers are on EBT. When I wait to pick her up see hordes of them waddling into the store in thongs and gym shorts and re-emerging with cases of pop and packaged food.
When I lived here as a kid there was a small demographic of genetically obese hillbillys, maybe 1 or 2 kids in an entire high school class. Maybe a few more of just big-boned large guys but not obese. Now it looks like 40% or more of the population are morbidly obese
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‘Groids?
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NeGroids…
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There are other weight tables from the 50’s and 60’s that do not mention heels and the weights are comparable. The truth though can be seen in stock street scenes used in 1940’s to early 60’s Movies and later TV, with the exception of women over 50, most of them are fashion model slim compared to what one sees on the street today.
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Let’s talk about how great the pre-invasion days were. Bitches’ haircuts from around WWII were hot and glamorous.
But everynow and then, if you’re up late at night, turn on an old episode of Friends and see what even post-pre-invasion USA looked liked. Them 3 bitches are a sight to behold now.
As for us modern would be shitlords, I feel like pumping iron makes the concept of weight meaningless…we’re much heavier … huge.
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Things stayed pretty slim right into the 1980’s, all the women i knew back then with few exceptions were under 135lbs in the 5’4″- 5’7″ range.. But the Pudge factor was by the late 80’s beginning to thicken the waistlines and muffin-tops began to make an appearance. As some have said, back then there might be only a couple of girls in the whole school that were overweight, but none obese to the extent we see everywhere now.
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What were considered pudgy and fat girls back then don’t look so bad now. Even the ‘fat’ guys in films from the start of film to the early 1980s look small by comparison of what is seen in everyday life today. I remember in ’85 when the refrigerator Perry was considered huge. His size then isn’t even remarkable today.
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The top for 6’4″ for men is 204lbs? The last time I was 204lbs was because I couldn’t eat dorm food. 190 would be crazy low. Significant muscle would need to be lost to get that low.
On another note is good to see the market analogy carried forward some. I’ve been saying for some time that the price of women is too high, the risk of women is too high, and the quality of women is too low is the market reason for men not being customers. Lower the price, increase the quality and more men will be interested customers.
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Reblogged this on The Daily Messenger (mirror) and commented:
Fat, narcissistic warthogs is what young guys see all around them. And it’s making them sick.
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http://imgur.com/GlhmsrM
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^^ Fat hypocrisy ^^
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spicy..
http://imgur.com/a/pElUC
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I hear SIDS fixes a lot of problems.
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And stupid.
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People must still believe that vegan BS…
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many do yes, and it’s still being pushed as a good and even superior way of eating.
little do those vegans and vegetarians know that they kill far more animals than carnivores do from all the planting and harvesting of fruits, vegetables, and grains for them. they are also messing up their bodies hardcore. people raise their kids eating that way too. shameful that they are allowed to ruin children that way.
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I was at amusement park in Jun. I see two couples walking along. Both men are ~6 ft tall, in good shape, reasonably good looking. One girl was ok. Other was short, squat Lil Lotta. Ugly face, flabby tree trunk thighs, and as round as she was tall (~5′ 3″)
It was shocking to see a guy who either believed he couldn’t do better, or possibly had no others to choose from!
Bring back the patriarchy.
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The numbers in those charts seem pretty accurate and representative for Japanese society right now.
Including the part where they assume women will be wearing 2″ heels.
I (a Westerner) fight right into the ‘medium frame’ column for me, and my better half is around the upper part of the ‘small frame’ woman. She thinks she’s getting fat and needs to diet. Do I tell her she’s beautiful just the way she is? I may think it, but I certainly don’t say it — I encourage her to stick to the diet and keep up that slim figure!
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