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Reader sigsawyer emailed a story about one of his pickups that could double as a “test of your Game” post. I’m game, so here it is.
Greetings to the Chateau and all its dark proprietors.
I’ve got a recent story of pickup success that I realized would be great as one of those old ‘test of your game’ style posts. It’s, um, illustrative to say the least. If you decide to make a post out of it, cut the ‘answer’ part off and post it a couple of days later. Or just share as is and judge my game.
So the other night I take a couple of junior coworkers out to the bar. Both on visas from Eastern Europe. [ed: I like where this is heading] One being cute and the other maybe a 5. Both have killer bodies, but I digress. (Much fun was poked at fat American women.) I’d already more or less written off the cute one as a prospect since I’d taken her out before and failed to get anywhere.
On that occasion I took her down to the beach late at night with a bottle of pinot noir and we went skinny dipping in the warm choppy waters of the summer Atlantic. Aka the nuclear pussy-buster date for when I need the snatch to open now.
No doubt. If you’ve ever swam (swum?) in the ocean at night, especially away from light pollution, there’s an exhilarating apprehension that creeps up on you. The sea is black, the sound of the surf is sharpened, the moonlight dances off the water, and you wonder if sharks are swimming nearby. It’s a COCKtail of emotions guaranteed to doubly moisten pussy.
I was set on bold bustamoveness because her English wasn’t good enough to catch nuanced negs and witty banter. Besides, I know those EE girls need a show of strength to crack their icy bitch shield. And I’m talking a smug, haughty girl here. An openly rude one. So I ramp up the teasing and assholery- splashing her with water, pretending to be Jaws and chasing after her, biting her leg.
She’s giving me plenty of shit tests (mostly accusations of assholery, childishness), and they don’t stop once I’ve parried a few. But then again, she stripped naked and got in the water with me, and she’s not objecting to the kino. So I move in for a kiss and she resists it. At the time I figure that since I’m the senior, the local, and a coolasfuck dude, that I’d actually raised my value too high and gotten her anti-slut defense to rev up. It’s a recurring problem for my game.
So I dial back the interaction, move on to some comfort themes, and try to get her focused on the emotional high of the moment. But she’s not biting, we get cold in the water, and the mood fizzles out while we’re grubbing around the dark beach for our clothes. So I drive her carless ass home.
Anyway, I don’t put much thought into following up since I’ve got a few in the kitty and she’s legit a pain in the ass. But I end up inviting her and her friend out to the bar, figuring I could either use the two girls as a pivot or spark something back up. The 5 is a fun girl even if my target is a brat, so I’d be able to entertain myself at least, or plunder her lithe little body as a last resort.
In the bar, one of the cheaper places in town, we run into some of my friends out of sheer coincidence and I make introductions. I’m acting pretty aloof, enjoying how unsurprised my buddies are about me walking into the spot with two Euro chicks.
Good friends will not blow your cover by hollering crap like “wow dude two chicks! high five, playa!”
The girls can tell too, but I’m not putting much effort into gaming them. I hit on two other chicks in close proximity- one is too wasted to even understand Styles ring routine and the other gets engaged when I tease her SWPLy job, but her mixed set doesn’t really appreciate my intrusion and we awkwardly fizzle out- I was a bit too tipsy to give a shit about befriending the group first.
Eventually the scene gets lame and we move the party over to my friend’s house nearby- we’re out back around a fire and I’ve been basically ignoring my target all night, except to tell her she drinks manly beer and to tease her about not wanting to dance. My other friends are trying to hit on her but its not going any better than my first time. One of my friends starts making out with the 5 in front of everybody. They eventually retire to somewhere private. I tell my target “Don’t get any ideas, I value my modesty”. She gets up from her Aderondack chair and slowly pours her drink over my head.
What do you do? Hint: I fucked up back on the beach, but I was wrong about how.
This is a great segue into serious Game analysis. An icy HBEE that walked away from a post-skinny-dipping beach lay later pours a beer over the head of the same man at a backyard party. And a SLOW pour, too, which is intended to send a much stronger message than a fast pour. Sigsawyer left the answer after this segue, but I’ll ignore it for now to put my own powers of pickup critique to the test.
My take is that he blew it by letting up on the attraction gas pedal at the beach, when she was amped and ready for a same night lay. Sure, she put up token resistance (what hot woman doesn’t?), but sigsawyer miscalculated when he dialed down the heat and went into comfort mode. The scene and the feelings were too intense by that point for a reverse into comfort game to do anything but diminish the girl’s arousal. And a girl taken from a high arousal state to a lower arousal state will resent the man who did it to her.
Essentially, where sigsawyer messed up was moving the seduction phase before the comfort phase. He brought her to a “fuck me now” high then took her back down to “an uninterested man asking me harmless questions about my life” low.
Thus, when she was with him at the backyard party, and he was still teasing her, she misinterpreted his taunts as that of a man who had rejected her and was having fun at her expense. You could say she almost felt betrayed. The slow pour was her way of expressing her feeling of being betrayed. All of her resentment is exacerbated by the sight of her less cute friend making out with another man.
What I would do: If I had a drink in my hand, I would splash it in her face. If not, I would grab her wrist and move in close, so that she could feel my hot breath and my anger. Then, I’d wait a few beats for the tension to grow and make another move on her lips. This is the kind of girl who’s in a frame of mind in which only direct, uninhibited, masculine escalation will suffice to break down her bitch shield.
Was I right? I’ll check sigsawyer’s answer later, and update this post with his story’s conclusion. In the meantime, I’ll throw this test of your game to the commenters. Is your Game analysis tight? Could you have closed the deal with HBEE?
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And now we find out how the story ended. From sigsawyer,
ANSWER:
I look her in the eye for a pregnant second. Then, without standing up, I slap her hard across the face. Like a tight right hook with an open hand. Her eyes light up and suddenly everything clicks. The first time I tried to fuck her? She wasn’t turned off by my copious douchery, she was turned off because she was the kind of chick who gave guys shit because she wanted to be put in her damn place. I reach up, grab her hair, and yank her down to my mouth; she responds with moaning, crotch-soaked enthusiasm. We end up fucking in the backyard of an empty vacation house on the walk back to her room.If you’d told me pre-redpill that I would be picking up hot Eastern Euro girls by slapping them Sean Connery-style… well I’d be fucking elated if I believed you. But it’s a good lesson to never forget the dark heart of woman.
Yep as I suspected, sigsawyer ruined the beach night by moving from arousal backwards into comfort blabbing, and that’s why she poured the beer over his head. But recall ancient CH wisdom: Indifference, not hate, is the opposite of love. A slow-poured beer over the head is another way of saying a deluge of tingles in the cleft. The beer was her resentment and frustration; his response immediately and unquestioningly snapped her back into that arousal state she was in during the skinny-dip beach night. His alpha ZFG masculinity now proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, she was able to flower for him and answered his primal display with her own.
And yes, my experience with EE girls is that they are very particular about their men showing real alpha grit. EE women need to know their men can be hard as fuck (in all manifestations of that term) when it matters. Their shit tests are geared to eliciting the most masculine response possible. Few American beta males pass these tests because they can’t even.

I’m sure I would have made the similar error that sigsawyer did after she rebuffed his kiss. I’d like to think that I’d keep on trying with her, or at the very least, hold her body close with some suggestive yet not too forceful kino.
It sounds that once she denied him the kiss, he was to keep up the assholery in whatever manner. Right?
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Grab her by the waist and pull her in. Look straight in eyes.
“No need for all that. If you wanted to get acquainted, just ask.”
Plant kiss.
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I get a sense that a lot of guys here are Mystery style metrosexuals.
The majority of the chicks I fucked, I never kissed once. They initiate kisses, and I reciprocate if I’m so inclined.
Kissing is feminine and gay. Pussy grabbing, fingering and fondling isn’t. Ass slapping isn’t. Rape isn’t.
One day you’ll understand that those nth wave feminists were right all along.
All sex is indeed rape. Because women wouldn’t have it any other way.
Have you ever watched animals in the wild? The male has to CHASE and OVERPOWER the female, physically. She only submits once she has been physically dominated.
You really think we are some exception to this rule?
…you fairies.
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yeah, except in the wild there are no police, courts, jail, and sex offender registration either. so guys have a good reason to be cautious about how far they can and should push things with a woman.
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yep, plumpjack is right.
and who doesn’t like kissing? it’s fun and if you’re doing it right, that’s all it takes to get her warmed up. i don’t understand all the guys who talk about fingering girls. what’s the point?
if you’ve got her sufficiently aroused, you should be moving straight to the bang without the need for any of that garbage.
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Yeah I got the same sense.
I wouldn’t even try to analyze the original situation as…we’re fuckin talking about a WOMAN here. There could be any of a million emotions that prompted this kind of crap.
Doing it a different way the next time might not produce the same results.
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Why even bother with the bang? I come while my dick is still in my pants.Stone cold alpha.
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Old school is to go for the kiss…if you think it’s metrosexual, you have a lot to learn. I more often slap girls’ butts and they do mine, too. Girls’ mouths have cooties and there ain’t no condom.
In the wild, the chasing goes both ways among squirrels and wolves…of course, the male has to physically dominate the female no matter which one is chasing for mating to proceed.
With deer and bears, the males run the females til females are exhausted.
With people, domination can be physical, emotional, mental, social or all the above.
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“Honey, that bottle of Heineken cost four dollars. If I’d known you were gonna make a mess I woulda just given you five bucks and got a handjob instead.”
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I’ve always gotten a sense that the majority of the posters here are Gammas and Omegas pretending to be ‘Alpha Dawgs’.
Almost all ‘field reports’ read like verbatim transcripts from 2 1/2 Men episodes or <Penthouse letters.
All of the PUAs I’ve met in real life fit into the exact same pattern, like they’re hatched from the same egg: 5’7 or worse, bald/shaved, ‘overconfident’ read: creepy and slightly oddly dressed – trying to emulate Mystery style, but knowing full well that going all-out Mystery will get them laughed at, denied entry or even beat up in these parts.
Stabbed in the Latino bars.
They never get anywhere, the only girls who might hang with them for a dance or two are the purple-haired, black-fingernailed English lit 4s and 5s.
The others look at them like they’re live snails in a salad.
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The greatest player ive ever known was 24 year old, roided out douche who didnt have a job. He just sold drugs for cash. This dude had every girl in town sending nudes. His roster was 4 nfl cheerleaders…all for the same team and they all knew about it, an nba cheerleader, 3-4 playboy girls, several strippers too. This was before instagram, back when everyone was wearing affliction clothes and lying about being an mma fighter. Playboy was the highest rung on the ladder of attention that a whore could climb.
Dude would never kiss a woman. I asked him about that and he said “That is shit you do for your girlfriend, all these girls are getting fucked.”
Not kissing is a demonstration of higher value. All these ladies would even joke to each other about how he wouldnt kiss them.
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i get your point about not kissing every girl you bang. it’s been awhile since i’ve been out on the prowl so i was thinking more about what i enjoy now.
but yeah, there were more than a few that i would not kiss even though i’d do other things with them.
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Wolfie, you’re such a cute wolf pup…maybe I’ll let you hang with me when I go out…contact me on my blog if you’re interested.
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Insects in the wild..there is a female insect who let’s men fuck her while she eats the food he has brought…..the bigger the portion…the longer the fuck.
Who said romance was dead?
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@ lichdof Lena Dunham?
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Randy is right. What a beta- all that kissing.
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Kissing females is like kissing a dog, you really don´t want to know where that mouth has been before.

(obligatory gayass emogif..)
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This is a great post and story. Always good to get a refresher so as to not slip into beta behavior. This forum helped me land my hot wife, who is the most self aware woman I have ever known. After this morning’s bang she became a total biznitch to me, forcing me to dominate the situation with anger. Once she got me all worked up she said “Good now be really angry at me all day at work and come home a fuck my brains out tonight”. One hardly needs game with a woman like this. But before I could have ever succeeded with her I needed to know this shit. She KNOWS she needs that emotional roller coaster. My last wife acted like that and I would niceguy her, total fail.
She absolutely loves it when I tell her to stop me from banging her. She can’t, she becomes completely dominated despite her best efforts to stop me and it literally makes her gush. She loves it rough, she loves to be raped. And she knows it.
Years ago I thought my at-that-time girlfriend was completely insane when she pleaded with me to strangle her during sex.
I’ve since learned that absolutely every woman, with precisely zero exception, loves this.
[CH: it’s amazing to ponder that these primal creatures are the same who dote so affectionately on infants and children. the god of biomechanics is a mischievous prick.]
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[…] A Test Of Your Game: Sudden Impact […]
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Drop an icecube down her top and then offer to go fishing for it as you START to reach in, assuming the sale…if she rebuffs, you’re just kidding and you take her by the shoulders and push her back to arms length, lasering…then after a moment, you pull her in and take her by the waist and tell her you all are going to get her another beer since she was a silly brat and wasted a beer. If she doesn’t rebuff, you pull her in for a kiss.
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Engage sexually, compliance test, push/pull.
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Bogart would have simply slapped her
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There wasn’t any VAWA in Bogie’s time.
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Slap a woman today and you’ll end up behind bars.
Unless she’s your long-term BDSM slave ‘girlfriend’. Then, she’s cool with it.
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a weapon of mass seduction which I’ve used to much success, (and may have worked after the cunty drink pour) is to firmly grab her by her shirt and pull her close, like you’re about to either playfully bully her or kiss her. then ask her, “was this an expensive shirt?”
regardless of her answer, rip her shirt down to her navel. (it’s best if it’s a t-shirt or something, not a $200 anthropologie blouse). then, when she’s in full-on “OMG! you did NOT just do that!” shock-surprise mode, you pull her in for the kiss.
later on you can toss her a ten for the shirt. if you want.
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I like this maneuver. I shall store in memory for later use.
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Caveman Game…”we don’ need no steenkeeng compliance testing.” It’ll work sometimes, but you’ll get your ass kicked sometimes, too.
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yeah, it’s not a one size fits all tactic. there’s no halfway point. all or nothing.
if dominance had been established early on, this wouldn’t even be necessary as a balancing measure. that was the problem. she was looking for dominance the whole time, and when it finally arrived it was too little, too late.
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Yeah, plump, we’re in agreement here. My suggestion is smooth and won’t get your ass kicked (probably) and it asserts dominance. That’s not to say that some guys won’t take offense and say shit or become envious. You have to establish dominance over them, too, but differently than over women.
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Are you talking about buttons, or actually ripping a t-shirt in half a la Hulk Hogan?
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hulk hogan style. much safer than a slap. and I’m not saying rip her shirt OFF, either. just a rip, down the front. works well on the right girl, the sassy exhibitionist type who’s asking for trouble.
as far as hitting a chick the way the post ended…great way to spend a few nights in the slammer and permanently fuck yourself. assault and/or domestic violence charges on your record are no joke. don’t do it.
this isn’t Eastern Europe.. the law is on the WOMAN’S side here in anti-white male America.
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… and the girl doesn’t even have to press charges. the prosecutor will do it on her behalf because you’re considered a danger to society.
so even if she liked it and would never bring you trouble, some jealous white knight standing nearby could call the cops and you’re headed for cuffs and a body cavity search, just for starters.
oth, what’s the worst a ripped shirt could bring? property damage? still… be discrete about it.
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a buddy of mine backhanded a girl who was giving him lip and he now has a permanent felony d0mestic v1olence charge on his record. he’s a sportsman and had to surrender his guns, and can never own a gun in his state again. the felony charge pops up in all kinds of places and raises eyebrows. and this was a chick he’d only been dating a couple of months. lotta problems for a quick piece of ass.
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I don’t have the hand strength for that. I’d probably just stretch out the collar.
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The especially annoying part of the whole slap bit too is that “she” doesn’t even have to be the one involved in the report. Beta-schlub-white-knighting calls cops and says, “Just saw dude slap chick.” Cops often try to coerce charges… My ex put a hole in her own wall behind the front door and faked bruises to claim I busted in and assaulted her. DA wisely tossed the whole thing because nobody bruises that fast in 2 days… cops were all set to try to arrest me though for domestic battery.
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@cavorite, you can also use a blade… Add a touch of drill sergeant to the tone when you tell her to “hold still!” then use a quick-open blade with a decent edge. I did it once to this girl who was being coy. We’d gone out to the Timberlake/Xtina: Justified/Stripped show (got tickets – 4 rows off stage – for free) and of course there was that song that went on to spark that incident at the Super Bowl.
Back home I said, “Hold still, I can do it faster than Timberlake… end of the song my ass.” And cut every bit of her clothing; shirts are easy, down the front and then sleeve tops, top of straps and center-front of a bra, shorts/non-jean-pants you just cut the button and pull the zipper a smidge and they ought to drop. Only one that’s complex is jeans or pants/shorts with the all metal button… for shorts like that, cut up the leg on the inside of her thighs turning it into a skirt basically, then you reach down in the waistband and pull the sides of the panties up… cut away and pull out from beneath. Then proceed to drill while she’s wearing the remnants of her shorts…
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It’s been a very long time since I’ve been out on a pussy hunting safari being mostly pleased with the wife these past 19 years, but I’ll take a stab at it.
The drink pouring on the head was designed to humiliate. Humiliation is always wrong, and should be met with direct & immediate retaliation (Teasing is fine, pranks can be okay, but a man should never let anyone, male or female, humiliate you in front of others). He should have put her over his knee and declared that he was going to teach her hillbilly (Eastern Euro’s are that continent’s hillbillies) ass some civilized manners, after the spanking then go in for the make out. If she is warm to it, great you’re getting laid. If not, next, but at least you have your dignity back.
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I’ve never had the drink poured over my head, but I’ve gotten the slow blow of cigarette smoke in my face, which led to makeout/f*ckclose…ah to be 18 again…
In this case, forget grabbing her by the waist. Grab her by the back of her hair and get in her face, scold her for her manners and then kiss her etc etc. That’s what this little minx wants.
“You can never go too far…”
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“Eastern Euro’s are that continent’s hillbillies”
It’s fun to be an EE Hillibily when non-EE white men are featured in videos like “Mother eats black cum in front of son” or “Girl kisses boyfriend after sucking black cock”, not to mention Western white chicks with their Western white fetuses inside them in videos like “Pregnant woman takes huge black cock in all holes”.
I’m loving the relative positive self-image, you superior coastal American, you. Nothing like some pride cometh before thy country geth fucketh up the ass, I guess.
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Coastal American….
That’s funny, and an insult, I would fucking break 10 coastal Americans into a 1,000 pieces if one even gave me so much as a sideways glance. And that includes all those wannabe tough guy Boston Irish fucks all claiming to be from The Southie projects since Goodwill Hunting and The Departed came out.
But you really hit below the belt insinuating I’m British. I was banging their women in the 90’s like a rabbit when they were coming to the US on student visas to work as au pairs for uppity mid-western Jews, JAPs in particular. Whenever their British boyfriends came over to visit, I would shiv them with insults and innuendo about how their woman were fucking every American male in a 100 mile radius. So weak.
Don’t count us red blooded American men out yet. You may only be exposed to ‘ American’ Jewish produced cuckold porn in your back woods hillbilly Eastern European who-gives-a-fuck-Istan, but if and when you meet some real American men, true stock with Valley Forge hardness running through our veins, we will fuck your shit up, and bang your women as easily as taking candy from a baby.
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You seem to think that American chicks are more difficult for EE men than in reverse. Even suggesting that is a farce. And as for fucking our shit up, you might have confused us with buffalo chasing aboriginals with wooden sticks and shit.
You looking down on us is similarly deluded as some British looking down on the Irish, hence the comparison. I guess these things were less deluded a good few decades ago, but they’re plenty deluded now. Any delusions of our superiority were dealt with by being stuck between coastal Germany and high population Russia; your delusions are getting dealt with now. (And I guess you dealt with the Russians’.)
And we’re also exposed to lib-Jew American movies dissing those red-blooded country Americans you talk about. Somehow you seem to be enthusiastic about that sort of rhetoric, only with 19th century style Anglo delusion instead of Jew agenda. Personally, stopping this crap and dealing with Jew delusions once and for all would be more my thing than this (or than wigger style dick-waving to chumpy Brits for that matter), but each to their own I guess.
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I’ve had drinks thrown in my face – especially Brazilians like to do that – and it’s usually a good sign……
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Were they taller than you, doofus?
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My previous comment is not directed at any non-hostile murricans, like Trump with that speech in Poland etc. but it’s ironic how some western whites still like to jack off to shit and feel superior about it (like the British with the empire) while they’re one step away from painting their national flag on their ass and spreading it to their minorities because slavery and empire. I mean you guys are *literally* sucking them off in hostile Skype porn now, and still… wtf. It’s like the British mentally whacking it to the fact that they fucked the Irish over while their country is being triple penetrated by every shade of dick imaginable. Still having the nerve to look down on the Irish and EEs after all this is even more insane than allowing it to happen to you. Some EE countries had a constitution seven years or so after the English Magna Carta, but thanks to your coasts you can now look down on us while sucking black dick. Lol
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The entire premise of this blog would agree with your comment. You should read more of it.
Hillbilly more a term of endearment methinks.
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All these inter-European rivalries and animosities are precisely one of the reasons why it’s been so easy to infiltrate them.
That’s how Rome conquered the Celts – because the Celtic tribes kept fighting amongst each other.
English vs. Scots or Irish, Brits vs. French, Spanish vs. Portuguese, Danes vs. Swedes, everyone vs ‘Krauts/Boches/Huns’,etc.
While Somalis, Moroccans, Iranians and Pakistanis fuck our women and beat our k1ds.
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Ethnic pride > racial pride. This is a human universal. Among Whites, Christendom is what unites us in emergency events. The greatness of this era is that nationalists — and really, the best of our men — across the West are united rather than fratricidal.
From the EE perspective, things are pretty good as far as stereotypes go, with the uncucked image. I’m not a hillbilly in either the American nor the European sense, but I’d take such a mistaken identity as a compliment.
If there is a mildly annoying EE stereotype, it’s the hot-girl thing. Only mildly annoying, because (1) if you visit a small city anywhere between Czechia and Armenia, you see pure-ethnic couples with kids everywhere, sex tourism is as remote a reality there as, I dunno, Iditarod sled races. And (2), because the ratio of talk to actual number of people who fucked an EE chick is very high.
The subject does lead to forward-looking thoughts. Free love somewhat works in a closed system, or in a closed cluster of related and reciprocal systems. But it wrecks societies in an open system. Some high school kid in a Slovak village does not need to compete with the rest of the planet for the girl in his class. For that girl, in turn, it does no good to inflate her ego with online Western beta slobber.
There are approximately 8 million Hungarians in their country, and like all Western nations, they are slowly recovering from a catastrophic fertliity slump. Viktor Orban is not defying the EU and saving the entirety of Western Europe just so that some foreign cunt can dump a fuck into his granddaughter.
That said, game-on is the name of the game. You don’t expect the dog to not grab the meat. If Western nations are going to survive, they will rein in their women. No unaccompanied foreign travel. Domestically, there will be the liberty to shoot looters. If I’m to hear of foreign loverboys, in any White country, sent to their embassy morgue, I will not condemn the honor killing.
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The justice system effectively prevents us from reining in our women. At least by any direct means, which is probably the only way to get results. We’re reduced to passive shaming measures and disapproving glares, unless we’re ready to spend time in lock-up. Which I’m not. Yet.
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‘That said, game-on is the name of the game. You don’t expect the dog to not grab the meat. If Western nations are going to survive, they will rein in their women. No unaccompanied foreign travel. Domestically, there will be the liberty to shoot looters. If I’m to hear of foreign loverboys, in any White country, sent to their embassy morgue, I will not condemn the honor killing.’
That won’t happen in a million years. Westerners will never rein in their women.
Maybe in Poland but not cuck anglo countries (USA, Canada, etc.) cavoritegroup is 100% right.
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— We’re reduced to passive shaming measures
With the girls/women in our own lives, we have a lot more power than that.
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‘Among Whites, a Middle Eastern cult forced upon our forebears is what unites us in emergencies.’
And that right there, boils and ghouls, is part of the core of the problem.
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Maybe I’m a wimp, but I think I’d not hit on co-workers in the first place. Doesn’t seem worth the risk to my career.
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we call that prudent, not wimpy.
I got fired from a job on a woman’s word, no more than that. Got put in jail on a woman’s word. 2 days later. No corroboration. No evidence.
Women don’t need any fuckin evidence and it’s wise to know your jurisdiction’s laws in terms of what she can accuse you of and get traction.
These were eastern chicks which are a little bit safer than western women.
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Generally, don’t sh1t where you eat.
Sometimes, you may not have a choice.
If your co-worker is the only 9 you’ve seen in a year, the heck with it.
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I shit where I eat because my local bars have terrible women. Clubs are worse.
Many of my co-workers are 8s and 9s.
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As she’s pouring the beer on my head I’d act like I’m taking a shower in it while rubbing my face, shoulders, etc. all while looking her directly in her eyes with the “I’ve been here before, this is the best you got?” look in my eyes / posture. Once she finishes the pour I’d ask her to grab another beer I didn’t get a chance to wash my dick yet. Then ask her to help me.
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How many no’s does it take to get a yes? Only the truly bold will ever know.
The amount of overgaming here makes me sick. Bust a move!
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The greatest advice in all of PUAdom?
“Make the ho say no!”
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If she keep saying no she gonna get dropped from rotation rofl
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My go to when there’s a girl where there’s mutual attraction and she gets sassy with me in public has always been to give her a smack on the rear. Not hard. Playful, but purposeful.
Sometimes I’ll grab her and initiate a hug, then hold her in with one arm and give a few smacks from that hold. They enjoy trying to squirm away from a firm grasp, but failing to do so.
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when she gets sassy… pull her close by the wrist and put your other hand over her mouth, while telling her to settle down…
Instatingles.
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I’ve dated more EE girls than any other type. I love them.
I could be wrong and don’t get offended but EE girls are not like American girls.
EE is a more adult grown up older culture than here and women respect men particularly strong respectable men.
They will look for chinks in your armor. But strength, respect, seriousness…even a touch of nice guy game works.
Watch Putin in the Stone interviews. It’s 4 hours of gold. Now can you imagine him acting like a fratboy douche?
If I saw her pour a drink over your head that would be my opportunity to move in – diss your lack of respect and fratboy doucheness and say something like ‘these American kids think they are in American Pie’.
Of course you probably end up banging her so the end justifies the means in your book, but I still think you over gamed and acted like a kid.
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I pull out my polonium tipped needle and…oh. Maybe going the full Putin is the wrong move for slow drink pour.
I think the thing with EE chicks is they’re friendly once cracked. They demand action so I grab her by the crook of her armpit and drag her to someplace private to say something along the lines of deciding if she’s feeling rejected after she lowered her bitch shield or if I am just a drunk asshole.
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I pull out my polonium tipped needle and…oh.
ROFLMAO
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Posts like this, and the responses, make me realize how much of a beta I still am. And how much of stodgy old fart as well.
Despite being wise to female nature, all this hair grabbing, spanking, and clothes ripping sounds like a one-way ticket to a salubrious sojourn of several years with a cell full of murderous groids for assault and/or sexual assault, rather than a way to get laid.
Guess I’m too chicken-hearted to stick my neck out that far for a random screw.
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it is all a bit much, eh? Getting a coworker to skinny dip?
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Nah, not that part. But responding to her refusal by ripping her shirt half off? Grabbing her and beating her ass? I can see that it could work, but the risk to reward ratio seems way off.
Take a decent chance of winding up in the criminal injustice system as that most despised of political prisoners, the Uppity Male, in order to possibly what our host calls a vajfap with some obnoxious wench, rather than just shrugging it off and learning from the initial mistake?
It seems like playing Russian roulette with five rounds in a six-round cylinder, all in order to get a $20 bill. That might be worth it a hundred million, but at the end of day, there’s no woman who’s the equivalent a hundred million.
Like I said, I’m probably just getting too old for this.
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Modded comment.
Skinny dip okay
But risking assault charge
For thot, seems unwise.
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One thing to spank thot
Once known — as opener, sounds
Like shortcut to cops.
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As noted, likely
Too old for this stuff. Looks like
Porch rocking chair, next.
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One of my former charges, a now 24 year old globalist girl whom I used to supervise 3 years ago when she was an intern, emailed me on some flimsy pretext back in March. I didn’t respond until this month. She suggested “catching up”, mentioning that’s she’s leaving town in a few weeks.
She is about 5’4″ with an incredible body, Koren but born here (I know, goys). While under my supervision, she used to come into my office to talk about a project, but would end up getting off topic and talking for 45 minutes. Rather than sitting acrosst the desk, she’d sit nearly beside me so we could both look at some silly Excel sheet or PowerPoint. She’d sit very close, to the point where her high heels and tight black pants’d leg would graze mine.
I never pulled any move, cognizant of the thousands of men before me who’ve misinterpreted cues and had their career ended by HR bitchés.
So, do I take her up on her offer, and “meet up”? Thousands of other beta males “catch up” with girlz hoping something will happen, only to in effect waste 2 hours of a Tuesday afternoon and money on dinner or Starcucks and end up going home and jacking off.
If I meet her, I’m going to tell her to meet me at a favourite spot, a bench in a quiet park embedded in the central business district. I’ll talk with her a while, be insolent, and grab her by the chin and bring her lips to mine. If she doesn’t like it, there’s no contractual relationship between us and she can’t do jack to me.
Isn’t it intriguing, the immense power women (particularly those in their sexual prime) have over us men, holding out just a mere suggestion of romantic interest in their part can lead us to take all manner of risks and wonderment?
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Seems I’ve hit the moderation dragnet, too.
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@ Les Protestant
Standard. She will bang you as long as you don’t put her on a pedestal. Meet her on the way home from work. Some inexpensive sushi near your place. Back to your joint for some alcohol. If she doesn’t want to come along, what have you lost? But it sounds like she will come along.
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@Les Saunders
This is what I would do.
Tell her that getting together to “catch up” sounds great, and that you know just the right place for it, which is, a restaurant/coffee shop/bistro/bakery/whatever, that happens to be just five minutes away from your place, which has a terrific coffee/desert/cooking/whatever, just mention something that sounds positive and pleasant to the senses, and if she’s available, you will take her there on such day, and such hour, and have lunch/coffee/desert/whatever.
If she agrees to it, then ask her to meet you at your place, so that you will walk or drive her there, whatever. Walking is better than driving.
If she’s interested in you, agreeing to come and meet up at your place is the key to figuring out where you stand on the probability of going forward with her.
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Les
If she doesn’t want to come along, what have you lost?
This. Meet her at a bar you like, after work hours… like 9 or later (depends on culture etc.) assuming the sale and calling her bluff off the bat. If she comes out to a bar at that hour – she cums.
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I was thinking something similar. Man, I gotta long way to go. I was thinking it would be easier to do this kind of thing (hair pulling, shirt grabbing) when you’re single than when you’re married. Allegations of abuse during the divorce rape, and all that.
Still, the rough stuff is pretty hot. I think I’ll take off early, go home and spank the shit out of my wife. If y’all don’t hear from me for a while, I’ll be in jail or too broke to afford internet.
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it’s called the crimson “arts” for a reason. like learning to use a weapon or learning a martial art, you master it, hoping you never have to use it. the irony of course is, the master rarely has to draw his weapon because he keeps his adversaries in check well before things escalate to violence.
game is like that. sure you might need to know how to get a woman back in line when she needs it, but ideally the guy smartly kept her in place to begin with.
the techniques discussed here are mostly for guys still learning. the post was basically about what to do in a salvage operation.
and whether this all went down with the guy’s w1fe or a random lay is incidental. it’s about the guy learning how to handle women and their shit testing, whether on an individual or social level. (think about how the drink pouring relates to feminist pussyhat marches…)
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I can imagine newbies with a instruction manual trying out these moves at home on a mannequin in a game of Twister.
Talk to a girl – make body contact, look deep in her eyes..go for the kiss.
If eyes lock – full kiss again.
if she slaps you but stays – full kiss again.
if she slaps you and storms off- not interested
I get exhausted at some of these maneuvers. Most of them are not worth it.
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CH is good for the entertaining banter from all the “players” who in reality haven’t gotten past 1st base with a girl ever.
Rip a girl’s shirt off in public? Exactly, GTFO here. Would see your ass kicked by about a dozen capt save-a-hos just in that one joint alone. And then incarcerated.
The “crimson arts” of getting chicks in line…lol. I gotta say I honestly never had one really get out of line yet I mean except my ex wife after she lawyered up. Usually all I gotta do is give a stern look. But then again I’m actually a BJJ black belt who actually fights and actually teaches other people to. In fact I gotta go run a kickboxing class now…
In my experience, a chick pulls a pour drink move if you’re being a DICK. And I don’t mean just a plain ol’ dick I mean a serious one. What should have happened is stop being such a fucking douche?
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Try-Hard Trav says: “I gotta say I honestly never had one really get out of line yet…”
right. we all remember your taste in women:

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You’re about 3 hours and a dollar short, lol, with ripping a chick’s shirt off at a party. My wife once poured beer on my arm and I took her out of the bar, so beer pouring DOES happen. My being a dick was dancing three songs in a row with a young blonde. The DJ merged songs and I missed the change because the merge was seamless and the songs were similar.
Being a dick is good…hate and annoyance from a broad are better than indifference. Gotta be smooth even when you’re being a dick.
Even when a man isn’t intentionally being a dick, a woman may just take offense becuz her feelz are more real to her than boots on the ground. So don’t go WKing for broads.
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trav loves nig wimmenz. trav sucks arab dick.
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Teaches ladies self defense at the local nursing home.
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Better watch your ass trav, betadom AND jungle-fever leads to suffering..

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Yeah, I agree. I’m shocked at the ease with which guys are saying “I’d drag her aside” by the waist, armpit, etc. I do think certain charming guys can get away with it, but I don’t like the idea of giving some girl that kind of power over me (especially if we work together).
I’m kind of an omega schlub though, so what do I know? You’ve got to take some risks with your social capital to gain leverage over the hearts of fine babes, I guess.
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Since she’s EE, the correct approach was to skip all the playing around down on the beach, and just get down to brass tacks quickly after she removed her clothes.
From my experience with EE women, if they get you alone and remove their clothes, it’s a signal that they want you to do the deed sooner rather than later. Like right then, right there, what are you waiting around for, Amerikanyets?
Mind you, I find them insufferably obnoxious a lot of the time, too, but they’re quite straightforward in some regards (again, at least the ones I knew). If they don’t want anything to do with you, they’ll make it pretty clear. If they start peeling their clothes off, they’re not looking to compare freckles.
EEuros in general don’t seem to do “subtle” or “coy” very much. Which, on the other hand, is why they also come across as rude (because they are).
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Great frankness here. I gave a young lady a tap once for being insufferable. She said something that crossed my limbic line and my hand just moved. A little tiny, tiny, tiny jab in the solar plexus. Like a baby tap.
I was wrong to do it.
She went down into a crying heap and it wasn’t an act. She was gasping for air.
Well, I dried her tears and we made up and all, but I was afraid she wasn’t really all right because she said it still hurt. (I wasn’t trying to split her spleen. It really was baby tap, but girls are soft. On the other hand, we all know that if you do enough hitting practise at baseball, you get to the stage where you barely have to brush the ball for it to really fly. So…anyway,,stupid.)
And I was also scared. If she had gone to the cops then, I would have been fucked six ways to Sunday including my bread and butter.
But she also became even more hooked on me after that.
Still, in our home countries, playing play-rough is okay but keep your fists in your pockets. The law doesn’t treat white men like they do niggers.
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In indo only slapped the wife once and that was right before I walked out to the crowd outside thinking I was gonna die because some dude called before crowd came threatening to kill me other time I choked her a bit after she burned me with lighter if ya ever heard me talk to wife on phone cuddly talk u know what our life is like together full of love for most part occasionally get mad only way I been beating her is beating that pussy but yea she a good girl lol no reason to beat her and she don’t ask for it
[CH: some intrepid reader will parse all of gsg’s comments and craft a memorable movie script out of it.]
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Yea the law lets nigs beat the crap out white chicks who don’t give permission and calls it assault and if witness don’t show drops case for white men domestic violence and white dude got to go jail no witness needed fuck your bullshit law
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“I do think certain charming guys can get away with it, ”
And so be that guy…
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.. aint that the truth regi..
.. and WE all know why none of the orcesses and high grounds princesses spreading it for mohamed don´t even consider calling the cops on them.
Even when women shelters infest our cities like zits.
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CH
I need to ax you a question
I’ve been getting familiar with this girl at the gym. Early/mid 20s, cute girl, tall and athletic.
We were fucking around and I was showing her how to throw cross when I noticed a tiny butterfly tattoo below her right shoulder. I pointed it out – “Is that a prison tat?” She laughed and said it was just something stupid she got when she was 17 “to be a rebel”.
Should I interpret this as, “I’ve also taken lotza cockaz because I hate my beta father”?
Can tats on a girl ever be harmless?
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If she’s a holocaust survivor then yes,a tat may be nothing. However,a lot of those holocaust broads swallowed Nazi cum like it was smoked sable.
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If you got them at Auschwitz, sure.
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When you throw the cross, do you do that gay-arse thing with the heel-lift and the inward turning knee? Gayest thing in all of fighting.
Other than that, what color is she?
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““I’ve also taken lotza cockaz because I hate my beta father”?”
Wait a sec. Is this your inner dialogue or is this what she said?
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Nein.
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fucking moderation
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my take on it, since i’m married to HBEE9.5…
…this ch1ck’s hamper is in overdrive pre-selecting the strongest a1pha male during her narrow window in the US of A for one reason: switch from temp-work-visa to fiance visa. this is a dream come true to 95% of EE g1rls, up their standard of living 100 fold, huge bragging rights back at home, live the dream in america and b1rth children.
adjust your game accordingly when dealing with EE employees on a short stay in the USA: game IS NOT ENOUGH (sorry CH ❤ ), you must show resources. there are shitlords in EE as well, but they make on average the equivalent of $500 USD.
the confirmation was all the shit w1fe got from "fri3nds" when visiting Poland with k1ds last year.
[CH: not my experience. while i could have flashed resources as an enticement, the few EE chicks i’ve dated never saw those resources. game and the right attitude did all the work for me. i even had one russian chick buy me stuff all the time on her au pair salary. i suppose living in the city was enough demonstration to these girls that i could if i wanted to at some point in the future, provide for them.]
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There are no stable beta jobs in Russia. You can’t graduate with a technical degree and make a good salary plugging away in the machine like nerds can in the US. Financial success basically requires alpha traits like risk taking, irrational confidence, social skills, and selfish ruthlessness. So basically, EE women do well by just being attracted to alpha. They do, however, seem to be better at smelling out a loser who just acts like an asshole.
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I observed many, many hot young girlz in Ukraine pushing strollers and with a morose-looking beta male tagging along behind. I always assumed the guys had a steady job and salary, which in Kiev is $250-300/mo.
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Samuel T Russell
“There are no stable beta jobs in Russia.”
Correction: There are no stable beta jobs in the post-industrial West.
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Here’s your answer: he gave up the farm too easily.
When she suggested or agreed to skinny dip then THAT was the time to tease her; I bet once she was down to skinny dip he immediately took off everything and became the typical beta male and made her lose interest.
He SHOULD have said something like “I have a hard rule that I do not look at a girls naked body until after we have kissed (goes in for a kiss)”. Instead, he was put into the extreme friend zone situation of “I’ve seen her vagina but we still haven’t kissed”
He was dead in the water on that beach because at the first opportunity of sex he stopped doing what got him there; teasing her and maintaining the sexual tension. Thus, when he tried to resume the pickup later on she wanted no part of it.
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I’m sorry, I’m just not totally clear on how you get naked in close proximity with a chick and you don’t fuck her….I just can’t see that happening.
I am a fan of snatching her up and carrying her to the water, but I have it on good CH commenter authority that this is beta male virtue signalling to actually be able to carry a woman.
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It would only be beta if you got to shore, put her down. and then quickly snapped off a comment on CH about how strong you are.
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“I am a fan of snatching her up and carrying her to the water, but I have it on good CH commenter authority that this is beta male virtue signalling to actually be able to carry a woman.”
Placing her gently by the shore is beta; tossing her into the water is alpha. Women like to feel a man’s strength: pick her up and throw her onto something harmless, like a bed, couch, or water, is a way to show your strength without risking prison time.
And semicolons are beta.
[CH: carrying a woman like an infant is NOT beta male behavior. of course context matters, but in most instances physically picking up a woman and tossing her like a rag doll into the ocean or onto a bed is alpha male behavior. think of it as an exceptionally effective form of kino escalation.]
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Tease and maintain sexual tension…cosign that.
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I have no idea why so few use the concept of making someone slowly stew to a breaking point so difficult. Always maintain leverage by having her arousal higher than what you’re having her agree to. No woman who is dripping down her thigh will say no to you cumming on her face, you punishing her or anything within reason. To make this happen, you need to slowly escalate physically. Going skinny dipping might be great if you’re tall, jacked and stuff since seeing you will turn her on, but even most of us who lift aren’t in that category. So your best strategy is to use your best tool: fucking with her emotions while she’s horny.
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Truth revealed: indifference is the opposite of love. She felt hate for him with drink pour. There’s still a chance. A good chance.
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If she humiliated him in front of an audience then she will only humiliate herself with same audience if she sleeps with him but nothing surprises me anymore in this world
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Been skinny dipping a time or two on the beach. Had the best response with a subtle neg just after they fully disrobe – ‘when was the last time you went to the gym?’ or ‘think about lite beer next time’ The key is to get in the water first and have them approach you.
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What I don’t get about the story is how he managed to deftly convince her to willingly disrobe herself, enter the water naked with him, and then proceeds to give up after the first kiss rejection? What?
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Been in the atlantic sans clothes. ‘when was the last time you went to the gym?’ or ‘think about lite beer next time’ The key is to get in the water first and have them approach you. When they fake a slap at you, grab her arm and pull her close.
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Slap her
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Advice from France : if you are naked, in the water, alone with a HB and already kinoing her, you are *supposed* to caveman her.
Of course she resisted, it doesn’t matter, you should have use any force deemed necessary to *steal* a passionate kiss.
Not doing this was the equivalent of insulting her : “I am not hot enough to arouse him to the point of losing control”
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The hard man option i.e. grab wrist, waist etc only works if you’ve already presented yourself as stone cold alpha in your overall demeanor, your appearance, speech and body language.
If you’ve teased her like a frat boy, tugged her hair etc you’ve presented yourself as unserious.
Eastern European chicks want serious men, not frat boys. I know this as I currently have an EE chick.
Think of it this way: if you were a Bratva hit man, how would you tease an HB9?
Quilted eyebrow, look down nose as if she’s a child.
Regarding the PUBLIC HUMILIATION of the slow pour, you the recipient have lost face before the men and SMV before the women. Thus you must publicly regain face. Not saying to slap her a la Sean Connery but humble her nevertheless. E.g. grab both shoulders and say loudly “that’s why children aren’t allowed to drink.” Throw her over your shoulder and go dump her somewhere like on a bed in one of the bedrooms. Say: “You ready to grow up now, or do you need to sleep it off?”
She’ll protest, blah. You laser eye her to apologize and escalate there in the bedroom.
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^quirked eyebrow
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great comment
you have to tease, get the upperhand, etc differently depending on the girl.
physical teasing, using high school type jokes, bathroom humor, etc. will work on your run of the mill dumb thot but it won’t work so well on the more sophisticated feminine girls who expect and desire manly (not boyish) behavior in their men.
the quilted eyebrow and look of displeasure is exactly what this girl needed.
i also agree with the need to save face. if you let a girl act out and try to embarrass you in public without repercussions, you are teaching her that it’s acceptable and she will do other things like that again.
i tend to ditch girls who behave like that because they are usually more trouble than they are worth. but if i really liked her, i’d probably give her another chance. if she tried to bring up personal issues, criticize, mock, or embarrass me in public even one more time, i’d ditch her.
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EE women, when wifed up are very traditional and rarely publicly criticize their alpha-provider husband. Tease him like a naughty minx that needs a private spanking later in the evening sure, but American style public shrewishness? No. If you see such it’s because the marriage is on the rocks due to beta-ification due to his complacency, or because she’s found out about his mistress(es). Heh.
The EE woman’s shit testing is not that of the US thot but that of a proud Slav that wants to find herself her husband under God and her master in the bedroom.
She’s willing to publicly draw attention to herself with the drink pour. This is drawing attention to her shame, i.e. the relationship between her and the pour-man is flawed and may be her fault, or, put differently “why hasn’t he taken me?” By insulting the man she’s showing that she’s worthy of a hard alpha to wife up. This means that she’s interested in the pour-victim and needs him to publicly show what CH calls pimp hand.
She wouldn’t have acted in that manner if she were uninterested.
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EE women, when wifed up are very traditional and rarely publicly criticize their alpha-provider husband. Tease him like a naughty minx that needs a private spanking later in the evening sure, but American style public shrewishness? No. If you see such it’s because the marriage is on the rocks due to beta-ification due to his complacency, or because she’s found out about his mistress(es). Heh.
The EE woman’s shit testing is not that of the US thot but that of a proud Slav that wants to find herself her husband under God and her master in the bedroom.
She’s willing to publicly draw attention to herself with the drink pour. This is drawing attention to her shame, i.e. the relationship between her and the pour-man is flawed and may be her fault, or, put differently “why hasn’t he taken me?” By insulting the man she’s showing that she’s worthy of a hard alpha to wife up. This means that she’s interested in the pour-victim and needs him to publicly show what CH calls pimp hand.
She wouldn’t have acted in that manner if she were uninterested.
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EE women, when wifed up are very traditional and rarely publicly criticize their alpha-provider husband. Tease him like a naughty minx that needs a private spanking later in the evening sure, but American style public shrewishness? No. If you see such it’s because the marriage is on the rocks due to beta-ification due to his complacency, or because she’s found out about his mistress(es). Heh.
The EE woman’s shit testing is not that of the US thot but that of a proud Slav that wants to find herself her husband under God and her master in the bedroom.
She’s willing to publicly draw attention to herself with the drink pour. This is drawing attention to her shame, i.e. the relationship between her and the pour-man is flawed and may be her fault, or, put differently “why hasn’t he taken me?” By insulting the man she’s showing that she’s worthy of a hard alpha to wife up. This means that she’s interested in the pour-victim and needs him to publicly show what CH calls pimp hand.
She wouldn’t have acted in that manner if she were uninterested.
Also, the “quilted” brow was corrected.
Let he who’s without autocorrect issues cast the first stane….
Now that’s funny.
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I agree on EE chicks. My experience as well. They want gravitas. Plenty of frat boy drinkers and brawlers back home. They get annoyed by excessive playfulness. Many times so do latinas…I’ve noticed educated brazilians are frequently annoyed, almost hypersensitive. They think you’re making a fool of them or something, some kind of shoulder chip.
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agree
definitely have seen that pattern with EE girls and latinas. they will respect and treat their men like royalty but expect their men to earn that kind of treatment first. have to really step it up and act like a man with them.
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Bangladesh is not in Eastern Europe, Trav.
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“Public humiliation” depends on your frame. For example, you could drink the beverage as it’s being poured and say, “Now that’s the kind of golden showers I like. That’s my girl.” Then you pull her to your lap.
I expect that UMC EE girls like frat boys just fine. More of a class thing, I think.
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If you can manage a quilted eyebrow then it’s game on
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it’s funny. i actually thought a quilted brow might be a thing even though i’d never heard of it.
you know, how the fabric is sort of bunched up in places the way a furrowed brow would be or something. haha
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The girl marked herself as a waste of time long before this. Should never have gotten to this point.
The only thing I’d do is never speak to the girl again if it’s not necessary for work.
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She goes skinny dipping alone with him, and he does not close the deal, what a complete fail.
The moment to go for the kiss would be when coming of the water. Come here and let me warm you. Turn her back to you, so she can’t see you and is there wondering what you’re going to do, and then…
At some point being playful does become childish and chicks get turned off by it.
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Yeah, that should’ve been a lay up.
But he disengaged. Then went out with her again for some reason and ignored her. So he actually dinged her ego twice.
She wouldn’t get naked with him, and then give him a second chance unless she really wanted it.
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No, being playful is never childish, but constant playfulness is a turn off. We gotta remember that the push is part of push/pull. Girls like an emotional roller coaster.
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Splashing each other and playing “Jaws” is something you do in a public pool in daylight. Not when you’re naked together at a beach at night.
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yep, playing games like that in that particular context is lame and probably came off to her as him being nervous and not knowing how to make the next move
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or that he didn’t want to make the next move. either way it’s lame.
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Yeah, I’d make a playful move, like swim between her legs, being sure to touch her naughty bits with my arm as I went thru. Been there, done that, in the daylight. But we’re talking about salvage here.
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I don’t have a better response to the drink-pouring than CH does. But what I wanted to say was an agreement about women resenting going from high arousal to low arousal. You get a girl worked up, and she’s got a thousand different hormones and chemicals splashing around in her system. If you don’t do anything with that, they all turn rancid and she gets pissed.
In other words, if a girl texts you to come over and fuck her, and you don’t, she’s going to freaking hate you the next day. It can be salvaged, but you’ve got an uphill battle ahead of you.
Ask me how I know that.
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Just for shits and giggles try sometime to decline a girl who has just propositioned you in person. In many cases the apoplexy is better than the sex would have been. I’ve done this a few times just to watch them basically disintegrate before my eyes. One almost paced back and forth in the same line in disbelief and rage.
What you say is true, though, even a girl who sent me a lay txt last second and I didn’t respond for an hour and was like not tonight. Stone cold ghost after that. One of many examples of this.
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Gotta be careful with those ‘groid hos. They bite.
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Try working a girl up and telling her “no” when she asks you to put it in. Ask me how I know. lolz
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Yeah I think C H got it right. In trying to figure out how the relatively innocuous “modesty” neg elicited such a strong reaction, I think the line paired with her remembering getting high and naked with sig before (but frustratingly not having him escalate and fuck the snot out of her) it triggered a sort of anti-slut defensive rage.
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yep, he’s got it right for sure.
girls do things based on how you make them feel.
they can go from turned off or mad to in love and hot for you in seconds. can go in reverse just as fast.
kind of a trip when you think about how much power you actually have over them.
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What would you do if a little girl slowly poured her glass on your head ?
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Grab her hair and pull her close
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A bit OT but is there a mystery about fat slob Heather Beyer and her autopsy? Why did she really die?
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http://freebeacon.com/issues/southern-poverty-law-center-transfers-millions-in-cash-to-offshore-entities/
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From where it’s no doubt quietly transferred to the offshore accounts of the personnel through some dodge or other. Possibly just via check.
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https://imgflip.com/i/1v3ow4
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How can the friend be a five and have a good body? That makes no sense.
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Many, if not most, EE girlz in their 20s have banging bodies, but their face and look can bring them down a few points.
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I picked up a russian guy’s wife on a flight from Heathrow once who kinda fit this description, though she certainly wasn’t ugly…that body was just to die for.
Did not know she was married until well after we’d gone our separate ways.
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Slight correction – Many EE girls are not fat, some of them have banging bodies.
Their faces – if genuinely Slavic – already betray the fact that they will succumb hard and early to babushkaism.
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“I picked up a russian guy’s wife on a flight from Heathrow once”
How far did you carry her?
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Yep, they can be kind of funny looking at times (small, beady eyes, big noses, stuff like that) but the bodies are usually world-class. A 5 with a great body is no contradiction when you’re east of Vienna.
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Down home, it’s called “butter face”. “Smokin’ bod, but ‘er face…”
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When the problem was over-gaming the solution is not additional over-gaming. A stone cold look calmly putting the drink down while wiping your hair back with a non-rushed walk off would put her on tilt. She’d come back worried she crossed a huge line if done right. And stop with the you’d spank, her, pull her hair etc. Lots of betas over-compensating here playing SIMS Alpha with the comments. You wouldn’t do any of that in real life, and you’d be stupid to do it. Hit with the look.
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exactly
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Haha, I’ve pulled a girl’s purse off her shoulder when she was saying “I don’t know” after I asked her to dance and she danced with me. It takes dominant, calibrated, SMOOTH leadership. I’d do what I said up top.
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This was a cold-approach at a bar and I hadn’t chatted with her.
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no offense man but pulling a purse strap is not the same thing
these guys aren’t talking about a friendly little swat on the bottom or some playful hair tugging.
they are talking about aggressive john wayne type moves in response to her shitty behavior.
that can definitely work in the right situation with the right girl and crowd. but it’s a hard thing to pull off for most guys. especially when you don’t know the girl that well and she’s unpredictable.
a girl you know well, sure. but in a case like the one in the post, you’d have a good chance of looking bad in front of her and everyone else who witnesses it if it ends badly.
i’d stick to a cold hard stare and remaining calm and cool. staying calm under pressure (especially in public) has always been a winning strategy for me. there’s always time to lay down the law in private.
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I pulled a total stranger’s purse off her shoulder and gave it to her friend without her verbal consent in a bar…you really don’t get how ballsy a move that is? I was verbally leading and totally calibrating her reaction the whole time and was sure that I could handle any fallout. I got the desired result. Her whole group of friends was like putty in my hands after that and they all wanted multiple dances with me.
Sawyer at least had seen the girl naked and chatted with her and he was at a party (with his friends, I suppose).
And it wasn’t shitty behavior–it was a shit test.
Putting an ice cube down a girl’s top is an alpha move and that is a great response to a shit test like a girl pouring beer on your head at a party. It will work for EE girls just like for Americans. As long as you are communicating dominance, girls will respond. Sawyer’s move was over the top John Wayne and was more than what was required. Sawyer probably could have dipped her and kissed her. Anything to unbalance her physically, emotionally, socially, etc. would have worked.
Being at a party with friends, Sawyer probably was confident that he wouldn’t get his ass kicked.
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LOL at the update. No chance the dude did this, total BS. He suddenly went from that beach fumble to slapping her in front of people where she immediately fell in love on the spot. GTFO. The normal people can see this story is total BS, I worry for the newbies who think that was real and are going to aspey rage slap a chick in public and wonder why she didn’t immediately fall in love. This story should have been called out as BS as soon as that fantasy “update” was sent.
[CH: sigsawyer can check in if he wants, but for the record i have seen men slap women in public and get away with it, so it’s not like something alien to the experiences of woke men.]
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You should have fucked her on the beach you fucking retard.
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A concise and accurate summary.
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+1
He had her n@k3d & tipsy on a beach and couldn’t close ?
Icanteven
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Lmao, exactly. She probably built an entire scenario of her getting fucked under the stars in her head.
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Lots of people aren’t reading. I escalated. When I pulled her in for the kiss, in the water, she wasn’t having any of it. As in, stiffened her neck and leaned away.
It was the first time that the night swimming didn’t end in me fucking.
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She’s a frigid cunt – you’re better off. She’ll get the POS she deserves back at home.
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I have know idea how true the story is, but I have no trouble believing women are impossible like that as the norm. Outwardly moody as phuq. I thought everyone here agreed they are compulsively, artfully difficult and exasperating. Can’t predict per evopsych mechanics without enough backstory info, i.e. input data. They compulsively obfuscate, dissimulate, entice, reject, etc., etc.
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When I do water sports, I like to play Marco Polo and swim between girls’ legs. Have you tried that?
It works because they get focused on the game and then you do a sexual move that is dominant and has plausible deniability and it unbalances them.
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Doug, sure, women deceive, but that’s why we believe what they do, not what they say.
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You fukin fairy, she was NAKED. FINGER HER VAGINA, VIGOROUSLY. GRAB HER ASS AND TITS.
The white race is doomed.
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>>One of my friends starts making out with the 5 in front of everybody. They eventually retire to somewhere private. I tell my target “Don’t get any ideas, I value my modesty”. She gets up from her Aderondack chair and slowly pours her drink over my head.
Lots of good learnings here. I think it’s a good example of how calibration is critical to game. Too much axxholery or comfort and you’re blowing yourself out. I think someone called it red-lining the car.
I think where this went wrong was at the beach. The whole teasing, biting, Jaws schtick was great.
But with these types of girls, they know they’re attractive and they get that sigsawyer wants to bang them.
This is where the Questions Game is so critical to maintaining that balance between attraction and comfort.
He should have teased her more about her swimming. “If you were fish what would you be? And don’t say dolphin..”
Whatever she says you come back with …”I see you more as a sturgeon…you’ve got that whole Russian caviar thing da da…”
While it sounds trite its catnip for these types of girls who aren’t used to someone who’s challenging them mentally and emotionally.
By getting her to ask you questions you’re also getting her to invest. It rarely fails in moving things forward quickly and cleanly.
The fact she poured a drink on his head means he went too far with the axxholery and should have dialed it down.
Of course he can rescue this by getting back together and saying “You owe me a drink…for the one you wasted.”
IF she doesn’t accept the invite that’s it.
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He should have made love to her before swimming. By the time she poured the drink over his head she felt utterly rejected. I would say ‘I deserved that.’ and invited her to the nearest bed.
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Kissing her after she pours a drink on your head would be epic if it worked but could backfire. If she pulls away (she’s done it in private and now all eyes are on) then you look like a drunk asshole and her pouring a drink on you seems justified.
First thing is to take care of the audience. If people noticed the spectacle then hold up a finger as if you are going to say something. Slowly turn toward the crowd with a straight face, lick your lips, and in a deep voice say, “IPA. My favorite” or something light and funny. This should diffuse the tension, restore the audience’s faith in you, and give you more wiggle room with the white knights when you do dominate her. It also shows that you care more about your friends’ opinions than her tantrum and that it didn’t phase you.
Then turn back to the girl and stare her down for a several seconds. If you see any signs of submission/desire/hurt then you can grab her wrist and lead her somewhere else where you tell her she’s an embarrassing child, make her help clean you up, and then you kiss her. Not as cool as kissing her in front of everybody but at least you don’t risk losing face.
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Or if there’s a pool just throw her in
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The biggest mistake he made was continuing to pursue after she showed her true bitch colors at the beach. She’s a total cunt and ended up assaulting him. It wasn’t worth it, no matter how hot she physically was… Stuck up ice queens like her deserve the shitty absuive scum they end up with.
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Abusive*
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true. a girl who did that to me in front of my friends would not get another chance.
others guys might differ in that if they have a higher tolerance for bullshit. i do not.
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All women are cunts. Especially the hot ones. She humiliated him because he didn’t rape her even after she’d showed him all the goods. A woman who can’t inspire a man’s desire to rape even when naked, is a failure.
Once you’ve fucked a girl and she started crying and begged you to stop, only to get mad and say “WHY DID YOU STOP” if you actually stopped, is when you’ll finally understand women.
You want to be raped. You want to be fucked AGAINST YOUR WILL. So tell me, why did we ever fucking take you seriously? Why the fuck are you even allowed to speak in public?
The muzzies have it figured out. What does it say when GOAT FUCKERS are smarter than we men of the west?
All the fucking acting, the hysteria, the cockteasing, the “please don’t rape me” act, ALL of it is a ploy to get sperm into your womb so you finally have a fucking purpose in life. Women are fucking useless unless they are bred, and they’ll get continually more insane they longer they go without being seeded.
What the actual fuck have we done to our way of life. May our ancestors have mercy on our souls for destroying their legacy.
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here’s a tip…
when women want you, they will beg you to take them. you don’t have to force anything. and you sure as hell don’t have to rape them to make it happen
dumbass.
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XWarper, is that you? Or some other sleazy clod?
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you seriously think the muzzie’s have it right? they have to rape livestock and women because no one wants them anywhere near them. you’ve got a screw loose dude.
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that wasn’t meant for you Ironsides. it was meant for the idiot Randy the Random
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LOLZOZLZOZLZ WHERE IS COURTNEY MY DEAR HUWYTE NITES??
WHERE O WERE ART THOU COURTNEYYYYY
O NO NOT WITH THE CHIMPS PLZ NO OH NOOooooooooooooo
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A beach you say? Calls for Jordan Van Der Sloot game
1 murder…gets a chick falling for him
2 murdered…gets a chick to.marry him in prison
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“you seriously think the muzzie’s have it right?”
TFR don’t lie
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tbh
Islamic is still a culture of omega rage unleashed.
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Hmmm…
I don’t know why he flatlined on the beach. Seems like a sure thing but they never really are, are they? Could have been any one of a thousand reasons and if you’ve approached/dated/engaged with enough women the same thing has happened to you. Best not to overthink it, shit happens, there’s probably not even a lesson to be learned from it, and it makes a hilarious story to tell your buds later on.
But…a bitch SLOW POURS a drink on your head in front of other people? That is not hilarious, and that is most definitely shit that should not happen and should never ever ever go definitively unpunished. Fuck game at that point. Fuck trying to hold your frame or whatever PUA technique or axiom comes to mind. That is stone cold disrespect. She’s not gonna fuck you. She’s telling you loud and clear that she finds you revolting and deserving of abject humiliation and made sure that everyone else at the party knows it. That is weapons-grade disrespect and must not go unanswered.
Let’s pause to consider the wise counsel of Dr. Dre:
“Bitches that talk shit, get dealt with real quick”.
Tru dat.
My drink would immediately go in her face. Someone else’s drink would immediately go in her face. Someone else’s drink would go onto her chest, the next one would go onto her pants, the next one would go in her purse and then her purse would go sailing over the fence.
I’d be moving methodically. No flailing or sputtering. Wearing my usual laconic facial expression. My demeanor and movements would be that of a man field-dressing a whitetail.
I guess then I’d wipe off my chair and sit back down.
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Ask yourself: what would Tony Scarramucci do/say? Then do/say it.
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lol
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this one is among a lot of other depressing posts and comments on there. glad i don’t have a daughter in college or plan to send one.
sad how many girls and guys are on there supporting and encouraging the girls to be slutty and disgusting. even some older guys on there doing that as a strategy to get into their pants.
i get that men are desperate for sex but man it makes me sick to see them contributing to the degeneracy like that.
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Hey, HEARTISTZTZT, can I get an honorable mention?
Looks like I was right after all. I’m sure some of the GENTLE SIRS in this comment section didn’t like my rape talks.
But unlike whorefinder, I’m not kidding around.
Why the fuck has this bitch not been raped by a white man? In what world does she offer herself freely to your enemy while you watch and fap?
This whore should be servicing our incel betas and omegas. She has no business rutting with chimps.
It’s time to put a stop to this once and for all. We are desecrating the memory of our ancestors. How many great men sacrificed their lives only to watch their sons fap behind screens and their daughters defile their wombs with chimp seed?
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SorceryBlob/XWarper confirmed.
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HUUUUUUUUUUUWYYYYYYYYYYTE NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE confirmed.
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Be the mooch. Be the mooch.
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Stopped reading. They have to go back as they are on Visas. I knew an Albania girl like this once. She was roommate and cooked me dinner. My girlfriend at the time told me tacitly to fuck the girl. I got some nice make outs with her one night. Then Trump won and her card was up. Fuck them in their own country if you want. Otherwise they have to go back to MAGA.
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It also helps I own a couple guns and some Gamma tried to fist fight me one of the nights we went out. I just suspect she was fed up with all the weak American men she had to deal with.
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It’s an invitation. Turn your head up and catch the stream in your open mouth, capture the hand/drink, pull her head down and French her, giving just a taste of the beer back to her.
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I don’t know. I’d have given up completely after getting kiss rejected while skinny dipping.
Maybe just enjoy the night swim then try to bang the 5. If she poured a drink on me I probably would have gotten pissed and shoved her to the ground really hard. I’ll be amazed and a little skeptical if this story ends with the guy banging that chick.
Maybe the best move would have been to jerked off under the water.
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Sorry I double posted. The first time it didn’t show up right away.
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I would have given up after getting rejected in the water and gone for the 5. There is probably a twist to the story in which the guy ends up getting laid. If a girl poured a drink on me I would shove her to the ground and yell f-u in her face. I like to think I’m progressive enough I wouldn’t treat her differently just for being a woman.
Another option would have been to jerk off under the water.
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lol
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If you have a girl on the beach with her clothes off at night, it is NOT time to talk nor play nor kiss. Pulling her in for a kiss is NOT escalating. It is Junior Prom behavior. EE chicks, or any chick for that matter, are not interested in this bullshit when thay have their clothes off. The guy says NOTHING this situation. The raging boner does all the communicating.
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My answer: He did not enough DHV before the move at beach. Sigsawyer’s hint is that comfort at beach was not the issue. To commenters, not safe to simply power through, though female instincts are made for it. The bitczz have other instincts, bad ones cultivated by alpha Daddy Gov. Because women = herd animal, once 5 was DTF, HBEE was too. Though rare, some women provoke angry INSTINCTIVE = ‘true’ reaction (qualmless by definition) and wait in harms way to be ‘conquered’, to commune with the silverback brain stem with vulgar directness. I think that is this chick, except the slow pour is a stable frame. He can just move in for the bang; she’s DTF him. It is very important that he not get emotionally angry, beta tell of worrying care. Instinctive aggression is certain, swift, masculine, but INSTINCTIVE. Narcissistic recognition of the inevitable conquest put before him on a silver platter is the expert cherry-on-top social ingredient for this slowww pour. Together it’s the DHV she needs to be coqk sure. 🙂 Ever have a chick just melt when you moved in to within a few inches and it was totally incongruent with the dialogue and interaction up to that point? Her weather changes. It’s hoebal warming. If he charges and lands on top of her, missionary form, it’s a done deal. If he strolls in and ravages her, it’s a done deal. I’d split the difference and playfully tackle her into the missionary position, with all this time to thing about it, that is. If he continues to think about the drink on his head, to want justice, civility, DLV by animal calculus. Also a done deal but in the negative.
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How about you just forget about that bitch and find a better girl? Why is it always about men ‘making a mistake’ in the process and never about women’s mistakes and horrible attitude?
[CH: because men want the bang and have to work around female obstacles to get it.]
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OP topic is theory wonk, which has it’s place, but you are absolutely correct, Donald. Better to game lots of different sets repeatedly in close succession than follow one chick like she’s not a commodity. Learn more by seeing the overlap of common generic behavior by short-term memory and intuition than by adjusting to her in one specific drama story with avalanche of irrelevant details and cog of emotional investment. Live for self, which is also essential to attract women. Not many places fit the bill though: big cities and hot vacation spots. Flyover country is tuff RP schoolyard.
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Has no one in your life ever told you it’s about the journey?
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Why is she a bitch? She’s not. She has her CLOTHES OFF for chrissakes. Is she a bitch because she rejected a Junior Prom kiss? Of course not.
The “bitchy rejection” is simply a message. “Why are you trying to kiss me instead of boning me?” “WHY ARE YOU BEING AN IDIOT?”
Beach girl was actually doing him a favor.
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Looks like I was right again. Slapped her into submission.
I win, the HUWYTE NITES lose. WHER IS COURTNEY???? Crying tears of orgasmic joy as she’s beaten senseless.
But, I was taught by GBFM while these numales were “taught” by Bill Nye the Fairy Guy.
I’m gonna stop giving advice to these fairies, because it’s obvious that they are just gonna get themselves arrested.
If my words trigger you fairies, DON’T TRY THIS AT HOME.
Woman is the most dangerous play thing. If you can’t pull off slapping a bitch until she’s crying and begging for more, then don’t fake it. Stick to the bux, and I’ll deal with the fux. Until the planet of the apes consumes us all.
I wasn’t always the physical manifestation of Satan. I was a huwyte nite too a loooong time ago, so don’t think this is just a tough guy act. It is personal, cause I’ve lived and seen both sides. The look of contempt when a female sees you as human refuse, and the the look of unconditional submission when she sees you as GOD, the sole person who controls whether she LIVES OR DIES.
It’s enough to drive a man to the brink.
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Shut the hell up, turbofag. Nobody wants to hear your wierd -assed crap, no matter which handle you go by. BTW, is the FBI offering a reward for your sad-sack ass ? I could use some extra cash for a new barn. Go away and stay gone, you devil worshippin’ fuckwit.
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Same try hard attention whore who’s been flogging his useless blog here before. The writing style and the smary tone are unmistakable.
Just go away. Nobody likes you. Nobody respects you. Nobody is interested in your stupid writing. You are the little creep everybody wants to spit on as they quickly walk past. You are a 5’1″ bald 400 lb troll who’s never been laid and never will. Not even by a fat black meth whore.
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http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/31/comey-prepared-announcement-closing-hillary-clinto/
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What is this rainbow shit at the top of the page and how do it get rid of it?
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Not even shitting you this exact scenario actually happened to me. Here’s how I handled it: As the last of the beer dripped from my face, I stared at her with hurt eyes and then ran out of the party the moment the quivering of my bottom lip became too much to control.
Overcome by guilt, she followed me outside and found me alone, sobbing under a tree. She rubbed my back while apologizing profusely and I, of course, forgave her immediately. We hugged and remain friends to this very day.
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Thread winner.
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Naa I been doing to her what she did to me for year and half ex ex has not liked it too much not being able to get my D he he he
And being replaced by black chick rofl one could even say it made her mad enough to put the brace heart blood face on and almost murder
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That’s the basic plot of every Judd Apatow movie, bruh.
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one of my favorite CH posts of all time
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Agreed. The before and after style was illuminating.
And, kudos to sigsawyer for sharing such a tale.
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Listen up guys! Women reveal what it REALLY takes for a man to become ‘a great lover’
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An article where convicts explain why they were wrongly convicted would have more genuine introspection and honesty.
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As honest as it could possibly get
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Yea I said some shit allowing her to think she friend zoned me recently so she could get some dignity back
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Then it’s fuck me or show me something physical or I’m keeping ur phone lol I let her keep the phone he he he
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Not gonna say it don’t hurt not fucking her we used to catch couple feet of air off the bed but not going into her frame of she gets to have me and whoever else she has learned some empathy from it I do believe
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From “Listen up guys! Women reveal”: A woman donning hoop earrings and a red top [bigger the hoop…you know], was in stitches when asked the perplexing question of favorite lovers. ‘Is it bad that I’m drawing a blank with this question?’ she confessed. [A coincidentally honest answer. Female attraction and all female motivation is safely subconscious: hence, demsbebitczz with any choice.]
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Something doesn’t smell right here.
You mean to tell me a guy that shutdown after being denied a kiss while they were already naked in the water later had the testicular fortitude to slap this very same girl after being embarrassed at a party?
He could have tripped on a sand dollar on the beach and fell into her pussy but decided against it and drove her home instead.
Not to mention, they work together in some capacity and sigsawyer claims to have abundance. The story doesn’t add up. Why would someone with abundance, that seemingly has some game, risk the repercussions of his actions over any one girl?
I don’t believe.
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Lotta autism here.
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Yea and u wish they would just work there magic and get nothing huh
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“He could have tripped on a sand dollar on the beach and fell into her pussy but decided against it and drove her home instead.”
what you see here is an intermediate playa. he is still ego invested on the beach… he knows game, playing the game BUT he also knows he has high value and he short circuits the rest of the game on the beach to preserve his ego. You can say arrogance on the other hand… he isn’t going to “chase” her. been there.
At the party, with the beer… He isn’t consciously gaming her at that point. he is reacting naturally. It’s not pre meditated. He was triggered and responds naturally.
That authenticity and passion is what overcomes her. Not just the act of slapping her. He is asserting himself. If he had held off a fraction of a second more, or spoken “WTF Bitch!” first etc. spell broken.
Play to win…
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this. the intermediate player goes home and thinks about putting her in her place. the master player doesn’t think about it. he just smacks it down immediately, like scratching an itch.
the slap is still unnecessary. words and predator eyes that say “bitch I’m about to beat/fuck the shit outta you!” has the same effect, minus the risk of getting the penal system involved in your life.
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i agree with you both on this.
hopefully guys will get the message and not start thinking all they have to do is start slapping or manhandling girls to get good results. there is a lot more at play here than that and young guys who don’t know what they are doing could misconstrue things and make some big mistakes.
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Whatx3, right on.
The tool blows his golden opportunity at the beach with a junior prom attempt for a peck on the lips, and girl goes, “OH SHIT, I took my clothes off for a beta schlub.”
She shuts down the popsicle stand immediately, and demands to be driven home.
OK, so this same guy decides to tune her up after getting his hair done with Budweiser shampoo. AIN’T BUYING IT.
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Obviously, he didn’t completely turn her off at the beach.
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Going for the kiss in the water was not the mistake. Women who are DTF still want kisses. Most likely she turned away because he was being too juvenile/annoying and it was off putting. So the sex vibe was already ruined and he decided, too late, to make his big move. Blown out.
After he takes her home, she thinks about how much she hates him for being such a dick.
So then he asks her out again, and repeats the same mistakes. Instead of escalating to the bang, he drags her around town with his boring friends and seeming rejects her again.
I’ll ignore the whole slap –> bang, because I don’t understand it and it’s not important that I do because that’s never going to be my style. I don’t date co-workers so this situation never happens to me in the first place.
The girl is not a cunt or weirdly unpredictable. The dude is a greater beta who can’t pull the trigger.
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excellent analysis. i couldn’t have said it better
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Some great wisdom in this post.
I find arab and black girls are even more about guys that look like they could kill someone.
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AND THATTTH WHY AFRICA IS AFRICA AND THE MIDDLE EAST MADE ISRAEL.
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Seems to be a general NAM woman thing.
They’ve always been the most forward in showing their interest in me.
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I’ve been told that I look like I’m contemplating sticking somebody up.
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Sticking somebody up WHERE?
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-01/fbi-dhs-study-reveals-antifa-primary-instigators-violence-public-rallies-april-2016
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Slapping her a la Sean Connery and giving her the tingles means that the previous teasing etc were from EE style hard alpha and not frat boy style teasing.
My previous point about not switching between the two with EE women I believe is still valid.
Regarding the successful results: well done.
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The family is embarrassed because they let a grown black dude beat the shit out of my half black chick when she was a kid and gave her crack cops should be feeling shitty too she covers up that none protected her by saying she beat shit out him except I let her hit me as much as she wanted in head one time and yea didn’t hurt only she got fucked up another giant black dude knocked her out cause she didn’t want to give up the ass she told her black dad and he didn’t do shit hurt the fuck out of her
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She desperately wants to be protected from her stepdad and all the other blacks
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Well, I guess it’s time for that porch and rocking chair.
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You, me, and Brian Wilson… the “Guess I Just Wasn’t Made For These Times” club. 😉
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You got that right, sir. 😉
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I’m with you buddy. Too old for this shit. But, I have two sons who’ve greatly benefited from the wisdom contained here. In fact it’s the original reason I came to CH years ago. Stayed for the politics, HBD realtalk etc. CH was really at the vanguard of “wrongthink”, and still leads the way.
I’m amazed CH has been shoaded, TBH.
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CH’s lead is a good opportunity to offer similar fails.
We all learn more from mistakes than successes.
1. Met a girl in Paris. Forget where. Maybe it was the travel office. HB9. TITS. Long black hair. Both of us looking for hotel room. One left. She says why don’t we share it. We get in the room, unpack, she leaves her circular BP pills container on the edge of the sink. I, being beta #1 of the universe, didn’t put 2 and 2 together. I then proceeded to mouth off about social injustices I had witnessed. She told me “TO GET OFF THE PITY POT.”
This episode is way too pathetic to be made up. Trust me, it happened. Youth really is wasted on the young.
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I was wondering if there would ever be an alt-Facebook, yet the Russian VKontakte has been around for years. Duhh…
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CH, can you please do a post on this….
“If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?”
“If a girl goes out, but doesn’t post about it on facebook, snapchat, instagram, did it even happen?”
I have recently seen male thirst infiltrate Venmo transactions. Dudes are “liking” Venmo posts! At what point will the need for external validation be fulfilled?
[CH: the corruption of american culture is reaching into every nook. it’s breathtaking to be alive to witness it.]
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What you are observing is Hilton’s Law – attention will expand to fill all channels at the rate of 2× the degree of uglification of society.
Named aftet the original attention whore who became globally famous for whoring and attention seeking and nothing else.
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my take on what’s driving the attention whoring death spiral:
the price of pussy being driven ever downward for the few alpha buyers to whom she would willingly submit.
she’s competing for the alpha against an adversary over whom she cannot possibly prevail: sexual variety.
she has a near infinite supply of supplicating thirsty betas who’s attention makes her feel WORSE about herself, not better.
to put it in perspective, imagine working hard to get an advanced STEM degree, then going into the job market and finding out the only people willing to hire you is Enterprise rent a car.
or spending years fixing up a car, then going to sell it, and the only buyers who show up are Haitians who are going to sell it off for parts.
in short, the sexual market is due for a big correction. or, as Sean Fielding says, MEN need to get back together and agree on the price of pussy/m@rriage and decide which men should be rewarded with a w1fe, and which shouldn’t.
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Disagree. The attention whoring is annoying but harmless. So a Lena Dumpster thinks she’s beautiful because likes. So what?
The MEDIA wants us to believe society is crumbling, but it’s not. A recent study showed people are having LESS sex than decades ago. (Forget where I saw that). CH has written that mixed race couples are pretty rare. Yet the media bombards us with mudsharking, gays and trannies. Like they are everywhere. They are not. They are like 1% of the population.
Remember in the 90s we were (((told))) that teens routinely gave each other oral instead of kissing/dating/holding hands. What happened to that? I’m sure every high school has one retard girl that blows every guy, but saying this is the new dating — bullshit.
Antifa and BLM are hired by George Soros to be bused around and scream for cameras (conveniently already in place). Very few real people are doing this.
If people were falling for this shit Hillary would be president.
If you are trying to get laid thru online dating, it is very hard because when girls have too many choices they just freeze. Someone with halfway decent day or night game can get laid fairly regularly.
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Women love men who give them shit — justly-given shit, with love, of course. A slap is just an atomic version of the same. In fact, Russian women say that if a man doesn’t slap his woman when she acts up, he doesn’t really love her.
Here in the feminazi West, slapping a bitch in public might get you in legal trouble, so in the case of public atomic shit tests (like dumping beer on you), I’ve had to simply backturn and walk away, not knowing what else to do.
But for milder shit tests, giving her shit and teasing her works like a charm.
(Note that repeatedly teasing her when she hasn’t given you a reason to do so actually pisses them off. Possibly because it marks you out as a bitter gamma.)
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Just read the update…
I really hope this is a twisted story sigsawyer decided to concoct because otherwise the minute he put his hands on her he became a bigger POS than she ever was. And yes, she was just a bratty little bitch.
You should never hit a woman unless it was in clear self-defense and you were in literal fear for your safety. It’s cowardly–you know we can never match your strength, you know we can never even dream of inflicting equal pain, and you were taught as much by your parent(s) or elders. It should be pretty much innate nowadays and needn’t be taught, honestly. Of course simply grabbing her arms/legs to stop her from continuing to physically assault you is a different story.
Yes, we women do some REALLY stupid emotionally-charged and hormonally-driven sh*t (you ever see what happens to a woman’s actual hormone and estrogen levels during ovulation and PMS? It’s like a torturous evil rollercoaster that suddenly plummets. If you’re not a woman you just can’t understand how much it screws with our heads). It’s just how God made us. You’re the counterbalance for it. No, I’m not trying to excuse or defend anything such women do or say, I’m just telling you . I know I’ll get a sh*tstorm of angry replies from this, but in the end you know I’m right.
[CH: the moral of the story isn’t whether slapping a woman is right or wrong (after a publicly shaming slow pour beer on the head i’m inclined to withhold judgment if a slap were to follow it), but how primally and sexually women react to being put in their place. the soul of a woman was created below, and no sjw nostrum will change that.]
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Women need more beatings – not fewer.
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“Yes, we women do some REALLY stupid emotionally-charged and hormonally-driven sh*t (you ever see what happens to a woman’s actual hormone and estrogen levels during ovulation and PMS?”
heh heh heh… about that…

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My comment was more to that specific part of the update to the story. Unless a man is in an intimate situation and it’s consensual, there are no moral justifications for laying his hands on a woman in such a way.
[CH: what if she hits him first? what if she’s pointing a knife at him? sorry but the fundamental premise breaks down at the margins. slapping women for bad behavior was pretty much de rigueur in the anglosphere before 1970 or so.]
In regards to the moral, I understand and actually more-or-less agree with it, hence why I also noted men are the counterbalance to women in pretty much every mental and physical aspect. We hate but we love it–we know we need it but we still fight it. It’s a fickle battle… When we get too emotional and aggressive you’re there to bring us back down (a few notches, usually) and interject logic and leadership. Yin and Yang. Namasté….or whatever.
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Another god damned blogger trying to leach off of this site. Just fuck off already, nobody’s interested in your stupid opinions.
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Or MAYBE I actually enjoy this site and made an account so I didn’t need to type in all my information or log in everytime I felt like commenting… Ever consider that? Probably not. Do see any blogs on my ‘website?’ No. There’s your answer.
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Watch bad girls club on cable to see how lesbians basically beat a chick to have sex with them and give them your heartfelt concern
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I already addressed that in my previous comment, CH: “…unless it was in clear self-defense and (or) you were in literal fear for your safety.” Both of your hypothetical scenarios fall under those exceptions. In regards to it being the status quo in decades past, just because it was previously socially acceptable doesn’t make it right….especially not morally.
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Then she should keep her mouth shut. Tit for tat.
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Got other dudes come on my dick when I took it out her pussy on her birthday the door locked downstairs and dude she says was dad was in there with her the door was never locked downstairs before but yea still didn’t do shit then but left her at moms after I quit fucking her
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In my entire life, I’ve hit a woman precisely once.
This was after I found out that she had basically been the town wh0re – before she met me – had banged at least half the guys she had introduced me to as her ‘friends’ , had given her V-card to a Black guy (with a Norwegian passport, this is Sweden ca. 1986) and was functionally b@rr3n (at 19) after having had several ‘borshuns.
The result of my 1 slap?
She got lovey-dovey, started talking marridzh and b@y-bees (whom she couldn’t have without the interventions of a couple of f3rt1l1ty clinics and several miracles.
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What I noticed in life, though, is that women generally have a fucking opinion about things, and they are not reluctant to share it with us. While if we were interested in it, then we would have asked for their opinion in the first place, wouldn’t we? Seldom if ever do they think it over from that perspective. Same is true about your opinion above on the story.
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Shame that you don’t make the rules around here, huh?
You seemingly haven’t had many genuine interactions with women, as that is not how the general conversational flow goes. If anything, when a man says something, he’s always looking for feedback to whatever he says–especially if it’s a conversation with or in regards to a woman. When you run an active, public blog you do so to elicit discussion and hear from different perspectives.
My Rod Emperor Heartiste [ed: heehee i’m a card] seemingly appreciates the engagement his “lady readers” and unless I missed a rule of “no female comments allowed,” I intend to respectfully voice my opinion on a post whenever I choose to do so. 🙂
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First time you grab a woman roughly e.g. the hair during intercourse, it’s stunning feeling her body shiver and meld into yours. She’s a wild animal at heart and needs to be tamed by an alpha.
Regardless if the beerr to slap to sex tale is true, CH is correct to note the need to be dominated in a woman’s soul.
On a similar note: John Norman knew stuff in his Gor novel series during the 60s and 70s.
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The original Star Trek, in spite of being a banner for Leftists, actually got this one right when McCoy got slapped by a pregnant woman and slapped her right back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooypmDJX4k8
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Terrible overthinking. Skinny dipping, she undressed herself first. What a PUS5Y GRAB moment. You got gina on the silver plate served to you.
You doomed yourself into the pit of the friendzone. No bold action, not a little bit of dominance. Alone with girl, she gets naked and you dindu nuffin…well, you were splashing water and playing jaws.
No wonder you got called on being childish. That was not even a shit test !
…props on building up the moment, but otherwise I cringed reading it.
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