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President Trump Is Making IT Great Again

January 11, 2018 by CH

An insider account, via OldFart, of the Trump Effect on the IT industry.

Trump quietly working behind the scenes on H1B Visas, personal story.

This isn’t copypasta, this actually happened over the past year at my company. Several other companies in the area are experiencing similar issues with their visas.

I’m an IT guy, a developer to be exact. I’ve been around the H1B issue for about 20 years and things have always gotten worse, never better. Despite Trump’s fantastic rhetoric during the campaign, I didn’t believe he’d make any real changes or fix anything. However, what I’ve seen over the past year demonstrates this is definitely not true.

My development team is probably 90 percent indian. The manager of our department is indian and the hiring managers are all indian and they have all stated pretty openly that they prefer hiring indians.

Diversity is our str……tribal solidarity!

Whenever there are layoffs, non-indians get cut. Whenever there is hiring, more indians get brought on board. They get paid about 40k a year less than I do, they work hard and they don’t complain. I think they produce garbage quality work for the most part, but I don’t think the managers care. It’s slowly rotting away the quality of the software but again, they don’t care.

Anyway, the typical scenario is that every year, a stack of visas goes in for renewal and about a week later they come back stamped [APPROVED]. Very easy. At the start of this year, instead of coming back approved, each application came back with a huge list of questions and requests for documentation about why the applicants were being paid so little. The lawyers were confused and assembled a huge pile of documentation for each applicant and sent it back. Every single application then came back with either more questions or a denial. EVERY SINGLE ONE is either in limbo or denied (you must go back!). I’ve heard this from multiple sources, including several who had their visas held up.

As a result of this, our company’s HR department has quietly decided (I heard this through the grapevine talking to several department heads) to no longer hire employees that need sponsorship. I’ve talked with recruiters and with people I know in several other companies in the area and I’ve heard similar stories everywhere. Pretty much unless you’re making 120k a year on a visa, you’re going to get yanked. The guys like WIPRO and INFOSYS must be shitting their pants over this.

And salaries for developers are already rising as a result. Salaries have been stagnant for several years but in Q4 2017, they started going up noticeably in this area. Trump is truly making IT great again.

Fantastic! Best news I’ve read all day. It’s only a matter of time before techie White men in CA and elsewhere see the light and hop aboard the Trump Train, hopefully dragging their waifus with them.

Related, who was a bigger treasonous scumbag, Gay Mulatto or Dubya?

APPROVED
APPROVED
APPROVED
APPRO…..

(trump wins)

DENIED
PLEASE TO BE RETURNING TO SENDER

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  1. on January 11, 2018 at 2:44 pm Mike

    I have been reading this website for years, never posted. I can confirm this is true. Indian H1Bs are also having a very hard time getting back into the country if they visit India. The reentrance process has been taking them over a month. The Trump admin is quietly using red tape and is enforcing laws.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 3:02 pm Captain Obvious

      “is enforcing laws”

      Does it send a chill down your spine that the thought of actually enforcing the laws sends a chill down your spine?

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 3:37 pm Adios Amigo

        Lawyers and Judges never lost their job to an H1B visa worker.

        Now we need the Supreme Court to rule in favor of the Colorado Cake Maker.

        Immigrants over the wall – homos in the closet – women back in the home.

        MAGA and Free Mars

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 3:33 pm mendo

      At work, we use skype’s messaging tool and awhile back I put up Trump’s twitter photo as my avatar.

      Some H1B downstairs immediately wrote me and was like “WTF?”

      Mission accomplished!

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  2. on January 11, 2018 at 2:50 pm Stifler

    The anti-white Kenyan.

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  3. on January 11, 2018 at 2:51 pm racerxx

    This is great to hear. One of the BIG reasons I supported TRUMP early on as this has directly affected me for years.. and not in a good way. MAGA!!

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:37 pm Hugh Mann

      Very good news.

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  4. on January 11, 2018 at 2:56 pm Dread Forman

    Did spaceX rocket explosion actually happen? No footage..,

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 3:24 pm vfm#7634

      It looks like the rocket performed fine, but the Zuma satellite failed to separate itself from the rocket.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a case of quota hiring engineering on the part of the satellite. After all, it shares the name of the groid running South Africa.

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 3:28 pm greginaurora

        Who built the satellite?

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 3:34 pm Dread Forman

        “It looks like the rocket performed fine, but the Zuma satellite failed to separate itself from the rocket.”

        Looks like? It doesn’t look like anything because there’s no footage. But yeah I read the same thing on NY times, bloomberg, wall street journal — you know, sources that have proven trustworthy.

        But that’s why I mentioned that

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 3:40 pm Dread Forman

        My first thoughts were Montezuma but I read:

        1) “Zuma” is a name of Aztec (Nahuatl) origin, and it means “Lord Frowns in Anger”. It’s a name commonly given to girls.
        2) “Zuma” is Mayan for new day, solution, new vision

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 3:42 pm Dread Forman

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 3:44 pm plumpjack

        supposedly it was a super duper top secret military satellite of some undisclosed sort, so it’s possible “failed to detach” is just a ruse so that the chinks don’t locate it’s orbit and knock it back down into the ocean, or put some scrambler satellite right next to it that fucks up the outgoing signals. (they’ll probably find it and track it anyway).

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 3:51 pm vfm#7634

        Oh, well, in that case, hopefully you’re right. May be a present of some kind for Lil Kim.

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 5:07 pm Anonymous

        Northrop-Grumman built the satellite and (in a break from standard practice) built the payload adapter that releases the satellite too… one guess what part failed if Zuma got dragged down with the upper stage when it de-orbited.

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 6:26 pm Tam the Bam

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 6:27 pm Tam the Bam

        Fucken boomers, amirite?
        (ultra-boomer here)

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:50 pm Larry the liquidator

      Possible Cyber?

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    • on January 12, 2018 at 1:33 am skorzecin150

      “I’ve heard” (ie I have zero actual evidence) that PJ’s theory is on the money. They’ve been a LOT of launches these last few weeks all over the globe, it’s almost as if something is happening “up there”.

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  5. on January 11, 2018 at 2:58 pm Captain Obvious

    UNDERCOVER VIDEO: Twitter Engineers To “Ban a Way of Talking” Through “Shadow Banning,” http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3621462/posts

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 2:58 pm Captain Obvious

      At a San Francisco bar on January 5th, Pranay Singh details how the shadow-banning algorithms targeting right-leaning are engineered: “Yeah you look for Trump, or America, and you have like five thousand keywords to describe a redneck. Then you look and parse all the messages, all the pictures, and then you look for stuff that matches that stuff.”

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 2:59 pm Captain Obvious

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 3:00 pm Captain Obvious

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 3:25 pm vfm#7634

        Pranay Singh has to go back too.

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 1:59 am Snake From Bait Darm

        at the end of the day, twitter is the biggest drug dealer of the smallest dose of drugs out there. the mini-serotonin hit. fugg this guyy

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  6. on January 11, 2018 at 2:59 pm President Trump Is Making IT Great Again | @the_arv

    […] President Trump Is Making IT Great Again […]

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  7. on January 11, 2018 at 3:11 pm mendo

    Dubya was the bigger traitor. Gay Mulatto is and was Gay Mulatto so he was already a traitor from birth.

    Dubya has/had no excuse.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 3:47 pm Snake From Bait Darm

      well, you see, when america was attacked by muzzlems on expired visas, the most important thing is to ignore history and try to prove to an imaginary overclass of superbeings that we’re not the raycix ones by letting in a whole fuckton of unassimilated muzzloms. along with everyone else.

      him, reagan, and daddy bush were all taken in by the evangelicals who are similar to shitlibs as they look at 3rd worlders like sad pets who could be just like us.

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 3:55 pm Snake From Bait Darm

        That’s (*) not who we are.
        um, yes. It’s who we all are. In every country.
        *=people who judge and exclude foreigners, especially foreigners with bizarre grooming habits, interesting cultural norms regarding law enforcement, and a desire to invade other countries.

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  8. on January 11, 2018 at 3:12 pm Peak Finance

    This is fucking amazing!!

    I hope this is true, I have not seen it yet myself. This industry has become a NIGHTMARE and rising wages would be some welcome relief.

    The (((guys))) on the other side of the table don’t give a shit about quality, don’t care if a project takes three times as long, all they care about is the Indian guy gets less than our dudes do.

    You have to be a fool not to see the very apparent results of this, I complain all of the time about these BILLION dollar companies full of “talented” H1b’s but yet with broken websites and shit software.

    Just some examples off of the top of my head:

    Home Depot – Website logic that routes orders to the nearest store is broke. This is like computer science 101 here people

    Bank Of America last rollout had huge authentication problems

    PayPal – Invoices were broken in the PUBLIC rollout of their new interface last year I think

    Remember the “Obamacare” Healthcare.gov rollout? that was a 600 Million dollar project and the rollout was farcical. I am sure actual crimes were committed here but there was no investigation.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 3:31 pm mendo

      There was also that airline snafu–with British Airways I believe–because they had outsourced stuff to India and those fuckers didn’t know how to handle it.

      Top Brit guy with the airline called it as it was but of course, others dismissed what he said saying there was more to it than that.

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 3:37 pm mendo

        Here’s the article talking about it:

        https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3672676/british-airways-boss-tries-gag-staff-it-failure/

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    • on January 12, 2018 at 8:02 am Tully Bascombe

      I work at BofA, walking around campus you’d think you were in fucking New Delhi. They’re everywhere. Never really cared much about bindis till I started working here , now I can’t stand them. All I see when I look at them is a stolen job.

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  9. on January 11, 2018 at 3:14 pm Chris

    Off subject…in the morning I turn the tv to GAC (country music). I mainly do this just because they actually play music and to have something in the background while getting ready for work. I caught this gem this morning…

    Watch the entire video.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 3:26 pm greginaurora

      Gross dude.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:44 pm Cracker

      nasty

      love songs aren’t bad by all by themselves. sends a weak message on the guy’s part but it also makes girls swoon. plenty of lady killer musicians do sappy love songs because they get a lot of attention from girls thinking he’ll say those words to her someday.

      but this joker isn’t even playing himself and getting the girl in the end like most musicians would. he’s singing about a girl cucking with a black dude.

      wrong on so many levels

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 7:12 pm Obstinatus Ludificator

      You couldn’t take one look at that douche and realize this was going to be a pozzed disaster?

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 11:17 pm jOHN MOSBY

      This fella has been playing music since he was a wee lad, used to see him at festivals all over Lootsyanistan and Mississippi years ago. Country music to me has been shit for quite a spell now. Gimme Merle Haggard , Johnny Cash or Loretta and Conway any damn day, fuck these faggots like the one in the video.

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 9:26 am Roy

        What he said…

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 11:24 pm Greg Eliot

      Holy Hannah, what cuck(s) approved of THIS video?

      On a side note, the singer’s voice is pinging the gaydar screen.

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    • on January 12, 2018 at 2:32 am SteveRogers42

      That’s country?

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  10. on January 11, 2018 at 3:30 pm elmertjones

    That’s why I.T. Niggums voted for Trump.

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  11. on January 11, 2018 at 3:30 pm Peak Finance

    I am on the floor having a heart-attack now, Holy shit, did he really say this:

    “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” Trump said, according to multiple people briefed on the meeting.

    GODKING FOR LIFE!

    [CH: haha that’s great. /ourguy/]

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:35 pm Captain Obvious

      Graham and Durbin thought they would be meeting with Trump alone and were surprised to find immigration hard-liners such as Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) and Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), at the meeting… UPDATE: In a statement, the White House does not deny that the president said the above quote behind closed doors… http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3621645/posts

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 5:32 pm jvo17

      Startin’ to look like Trump not Bannon is the true WN in the woodpile.

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  12. on January 11, 2018 at 3:34 pm vfm#7634

    In related news… this may be fake agitprop from the Washington Compost, but even so, more winning from President Trump, including for the lulz:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368576-trump-rips-protections-for-immigrants-from-shithole-countries-in

    “President Trump reportedly referred to immigrants from Haiti and African countries as coming from “sh!thole countries” on Thursday.”

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 3:44 pm Snake From Bait Darm

      oh my, trump2020 is getting stronger.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:51 pm Anonymous

      Hell yeah!!

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  13. on January 11, 2018 at 3:42 pm herolazy

    I’ve been a self-employed software developer since ’95. Fortunately, my skill set is in a niche industry and I do well, but what I make has been stagnant for a long time. At the end of ’17 I got a call from a California recruiter I’ve known for years (I used to live in CalComm) he told me that companies were planning for replacing H1Bs and were really worried about their labor costs going up up up. Anyway, I came off a contract at the end of ’17 and was immediately got a new contract – new client. I didn’t even have to haggle with them, usually I’m up they’re down and we meet somewhere. New client didn’t even try to get me down. Should’ve asked for more. As is, its an extra $200 a week on a 40 hr week. 20K plus extra (with overtime) this year. And I work from home. Between what Trump has saved me on my health insurance already ($70 a month cheaper premium) and this, I’ve already made back the $500 I donated to his campaign.

    MAGA!

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 3:55 pm vfm#7634

      The griping about labor costs is BS. I’m pretty sure they were hiring H1Bs to score social justice points. In the long run, white American employees are cheaper because the companies would save a ton of money from not having to debug all their Hindu bloatware.

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 4:32 pm Exurban

        The griping about labor costs is BS. I’m pretty sure they were hiring H1Bs to score social justice points. In the long run, white American employees are cheaper because the companies would save a ton of money from not having to debug all their Hindu bloatware.

        Non-tech companies don’t know anything about IT. They just want to get the costs down and don’t understand how much service is being degraded. Executives everywhere don’t wan’t to tolerate uppity white Americans telling them how things could be done better — and don’t want to have potential replacements move up the ladder. They get to tell their bosses or shareholders that they have cut costs right now, and in a lot of large corporations that’s all that really matters.

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 4:37 pm Captain Obvious

        “don’t want to have potential replacements move up the ladder”

        This is the sort of down-to-earth straight-talking seeing-the-world-for-what-it-really-is cynicism which has taken forever for me to adopt.

        To this day, though, I’m still not nearly cynical enough.

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 4:47 pm vfm#7634

        If they were actually competent, they wouldn’t have to worry about “potential replacements”.

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 7:17 pm Oleaginous Outrager

        “They get to tell their bosses or shareholders that they have cut costs right now, and in a lot of large corporations that’s all that really matters.”

        What really matters to lot of corporations now is even more narrowly focused than that: “Did our earnings beat expectations for this quarter?”

        You can fuck a company six ways from Sunday, but if you managed to do even slightly better than “expectations”, all’s right in the world, for the board, at least.

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 7:46 pm vfm#7634

        I suspect for a lot of corporations, it’s “does it advance SJWism? Screw the bottom line!”

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 9:20 pm Libertardian

        “Non-tech companies don’t know anything about IT. They just want to get the costs down and don’t understand how much service is being degraded.”

        Tech companies don’t either, once the empty suits take over. Again, force these people to hire H-1Bs for their surgeons, Gulfstream pilots, Congressional lobbyists, and defense attorneys, and maybe it’ll finally dawn on them that in highly skilled professions* you get what you pay for.

        * We’ll assume lobbyists have to at least be highly skilled at giving BJs.

        “companies were planning for replacing H1Bs and were really worried about their labor costs going up up up”

        Mr. Burns: BLAST HIS HIDE TO HADES! [Lightning and thunder in background.] And I was going to buy that ivory backscratcher!

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 3:57 pm Lazy Hero

      I can’t do math because I’m exhausted from already working overtime for my new client. I’m actually making an extra $400 a week which equals 20K…

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 4:33 pm Exurban

        LOL I thought you must be working a lot of overtime.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:50 pm Matamoros

      This is why when I hear about the Indians, Chinese, what have you, coming up with weaponry to beat ours I have to laugh. Their software will be crap, and so will the performance.

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 1:41 am skorzecin150

        Not to mention build quality. Whether it’s a children’s bike or a main battle tank, the quality is exactly the same, ie shit.

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  14. on January 11, 2018 at 3:43 pm Lazy Hero

    By the way, that’s me herolazy as Lazy Hero…

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  15. on January 11, 2018 at 3:43 pm Snake From Bait Darm

    please be returning to sender 8————>~~~

    gold!

    Like I say, I’m not even that racix but injun dots are the top of my list. It’s like a bag of rocks came to life and started trying to get you to tell them your bank password while complaining about being a minority. You know, there’s just a billion of them.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 3:57 pm gunslingergregi

      india has 2 billion now

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 3:58 pm gunslingergregi

        1,281,935,911 (July 2017 est.)
        cia factbook
        hmm
        swear I read 10 years ago over 2 bil on that wtf

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 3:59 pm gunslingergregi

        unless 700 million left would make sense hmmm

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 3:59 pm Snake From Bait Darm

        plus a billion screaming red chinamen. also minorities. natch

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 4:01 pm Snake From Bait Darm

        dunnno why but here

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 4:02 pm gunslingergregi

        1.37 billion (2015)
        wtf china is same thing it was over 2 bil wtf is going on with numbers

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 4:03 pm gunslingergregi

        numbers wrong china india both 1.3 billion bullshit
        unless 1.4 billion are running around world not counted what the fuck going on there

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 4:03 pm gunslingergregi

        they magically both almost same number someone fucking around

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:32 pm Lazy Hero

      Worked with an Indian guy 15 years ago. He came from a wealthy family. He enlightened me on Indians a great deal. He hated most of them. Yes, he really did. He told me I had no idea how stupid and worthless most people in India were. Said the best thing that could happen to India would be a plague that killed at least half of their population.

      I’ve read before that Mein Kampf has been a best seller in India for years…

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 4:48 pm Snake From Bait Darm

        well, there is, as you can imagine in a coutnry of a billion, some diversity and class/racial divides. Just like Mexico has selma hayek but is really not, India has heavy white areas that look like english anime pr0n stars but most india is not.

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 5:44 pm OSP

        Mein Kampf sales in India:

        https://mic.com/articles/120411/how-hitler-s-mein-kampf-became-a-bestseller-in-india

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 1:48 am skorzecin150

        Legit store in India:

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 2:03 am skorzecin150

        There’s seems to be a LOT of love for Der Fuhrer in streetshitter land for some reason, maybe it’s the hakenkreuz?

        https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/2366781.main_image.jpg?strip=all

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 2:06 am skorzecin150

        List in mod hell, they love The Leader over there, tons of stores, pool halls, products, all names after him. My fave:

        http://cdn.barstoolsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Screen-Shot-2015-05-26-at-1.03.30-PM.png?1b1194

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  16. on January 11, 2018 at 3:54 pm bdog57

    Lulz. Tell me more about how this guy isn’t on our side.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-11/trump-why-do-we-want-people-these-shithole-countries-come-here

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 3:57 pm vfm#7634

      Fewer immigrants from shithole (black) countries and more immigrants from “places like Norway” –> coded language for “fewer niqqers and more white people”. (We know the SJWs are going to say this anyhow, so I’ll go first as a morale booster.)

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:00 pm bdog57

      Ah. Looks like I’m late to the link party. Whatever- solid gold, right there.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:37 pm Exurban

      Donald is ingoddamncredible. The Age of Trump just keeps getting more glorious. The world does not deserve an American President this based.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:49 pm Captain Obvious

      He just had the Prime Minister of Norway in da House – he was probably still thinking of her.

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  17. on January 11, 2018 at 4:03 pm Lichthof

    Trump’s “shithole countries” comment lol

    He’s not 100% what I want but by God I love him

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  18. on January 11, 2018 at 4:03 pm racerxx

    Ha ha this is one YUUGE slice of awesome:

    “President Trump on Wednesday balked at an immigration deal that would include protections for people from Haiti and African countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the conversation.”

    Loony Libs in comment meltdown.. lol

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:28 pm Amasius

      The left:

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 5:12 pm Captain Obvious

      “By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS and SHERYL GAY STOLBERG”

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 7:48 pm vfm#7634

        Hopefully Barbra [sic] Specter gets an aneurysm.

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  19. on January 11, 2018 at 4:04 pm OSP

    Today’s chuckle…
    Perusing the Reddit thread I came across this nugget:

    “Back then they were just the BOI, Bureau of Investigation. The “Federal” part didn’t get added to the name until 1935…So if you were to actually spell out the full acronym, they’d be FBOI… fuckbois lol

    Gold

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  20. on January 11, 2018 at 4:06 pm CalvinDecline

    Off-Topic:

    Anyone here have links to the studies that show that, in more egalitarian countries like sweden, there is actually a greater separation of men vs women in the work force?

    I’ve searched CH here a few times but am unsure which keywords or even which article to try and search for.

    External links are fine as well if anyone has any handy.

    “what’s in it for me?” you ask, why, my undying love and adoration, of course… right after I waste my time schooling a lib.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:09 pm gunslingergregi

      look with eyes at any outside job that men do
      anything
      in trades
      that fixes shit
      fixing shit in manufacturing
      making shit in manufacturing
      think that is anywhere regardless of country
      go to a government office all female one dude running it as his kingdom of bitches

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:10 pm Snake From Bait Darm

      I think Gavin or Milo says stuff like that. in the shitholes, women account for a lot of the stem workers.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:12 pm Lazy Hero

      Here ye go… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LRdW8xw70

      And this guy has done a lot of great documentaries.

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 5:12 pm CalvinDecline

        Wow Lazy Hero… that shit is gold, thank you. I just finished the first one.

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 5:38 pm Lazy Hero

        He’s a comedian in Sweden and is very good at putting people at ease to ask questions of. He’s not really obviously Alt Right, but I believe he has to be just to broach the subject matters he does. He can’t be too obvious or his documentaries would not get aired.

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  21. on January 11, 2018 at 4:06 pm John C

    All aboard the Trump train heading back to Stinkistan!

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=854_1515491752

    And yes, that is what daily life in a country run by morons looks like.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:43 pm Captain Obvious

      Yikes.

      It’s like a friggin zombie movie – Walking Dead x WWZ.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:55 pm Anonymous

      Liberia:

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 5:43 pm gunslingergregi

        gtfo lol

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 6:48 pm Tam the Bam

        Silly boy. Lets blackshirt get his knee proximate to his danglies, even though he’s very slightly on the back foot/getting pushed over. Left foot pushoff while gripping yellow’s left shoulder and right bicep, close. Then the headbutt/knee to face or the other way on, even if you have to pull him on top of you.
        Don’t these people even go to public school?
        What’s with the attempted Vulcan death-grip? I suppose he’s a Fed in civvies, so they’re all shitting themselves.
        VD advise, please.

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  22. on January 11, 2018 at 4:07 pm gunslingergregi

    read trumps latest tweets
    on fire
    also alludes to Iranian coup though going on any info on that>?

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  23. on January 11, 2018 at 4:07 pm Snake From Bait Darm

    meanwhile on abc news…in el salvador, murder capital of the world, gang violence is a way of life.

    greeeatttt. bring me more shithole people.

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  24. on January 11, 2018 at 4:35 pm LeShitlourde

    Awesome news.

    I’m pretty sick of whites being used to provide the social infrastructure for muds to function. Our wages have been stagnating and our people laid off because oligarchs decided they didn’t want to pay us a living wage after inventing the modern world.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 4:55 pm Captain Obvious

      “wages have been stagnating”

      FOR FORTY G0D-D@MNED YEARS!!!!!

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 4:56 pm Captain Obvious

        He11, moar like FORTY-FIVE YEARS!!!!!

        Basically a friggin half a century now.

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 6:59 pm Tam the Bam

        That inflection point. 1973. I remember that.
        Sheikh YourMoney’s Oil Shock, immediately followed by the 3-Day Week, Miners’ Strike v1.0, then strike-o-rama all the way through to the Summer of Hate/Jubilee.
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6729683.stm
        I think that’s when Britain actually collapsed, and we’re just scavenging in the (((financialised))) rubble.

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      • on January 11, 2018 at 10:23 pm gunslingergregi

        interesting I was born it was highest point he he he

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  25. on January 11, 2018 at 4:59 pm Lowly Peasant

    My experience with Indian IT “Consultants” is that 90% are complete frauds with copy and paste resumes. They get on site and Google everything to death because they have no proficiency at all. They are cheap but I think hiring high school kids from upper middle class communities would get you better, faster and cheaper results.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 5:41 pm Lazy Hero

      You are correct, sir. Over the last 20 years I’ve had to tech screen so many of them where I end the interview in 5 mins because they don’t know shit. Also, today skype interviews are all the norm, so they can’t have someone there giving them answers. And over the years I’ve seen the exact same resume, and I do mean exact same resume because they’re too lazy to amend, under multiple injun names.

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 4:55 am Chris Stevenson

        this is the reason that Microsoft software is even more shit than it was. not only are dirty indians incompetent, but they have that low end immigrant smart-ass attitude that they are going to put one over on everyone. they can be clever but not wise. this is why Windows 10 turned into an advertising and data mining platform more than ever. no, they cannot make money by making its features better or more secure, but rather by joining the internet scam of selling advertising data and marketing to the users. this is why the professional version does not turn off all of this shit, as if it should even be present in any version that YOU PAY FOR; they are using you as the product. it is not that this was not planned by non-dirt people, but this is all that they have to offer and know nothing other than how to ingratiate themselves to the power base. in the 80’s in high school we used to call them kiss-ass hindus. rhymes with dindu. a mud with half a brain.

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 5:03 am Chris Stevenson

        had to add that every time a friend or client gets a new computer i have to spend days turning off and uninstalling and otherwise defeating all sorts of shit that is native to the OS and of course all of the other importer’s (they are not manufactures) shit-ware. shame as win 8/10 had some good memory management aspects among other things. must have been a few white people and other normals around to contribute something. what is the value of society’s time dealing with all sorts of incompetence. in my business i get to deal with them in city agencies mostly DOB. they are true shit-heads with cushy jobs. at least the earlier immigrants patronage appointments (Irish, Itals, etc.) could speak understandable English.

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 12:18 pm dzhugashvili

        Microsoft software is even more shit than it was.

        every time a friend or client gets a new computer i have to spend days turning off and uninstalling and otherwise defeating all sorts of shit that is native to the OS and of course all of the other importer’s (they are not manufactures) shit-ware.

        solution: install non-shitware.

        https://linuxmint.com/

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  26. on January 11, 2018 at 5:32 pm Ironsides

    Warms the cockles of my dark and fashy heart.

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  27. on January 11, 2018 at 5:46 pm Sir Lee

    Zuckerberg-and-Oprah can do this.
    Sugar Mountain and Brown Sugar.
    Their slogan can be Make America Sweet Again.
    Imagine the whoards of Orcs screeching MASA, MASA, MASA

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  28. on January 11, 2018 at 9:05 pm PunkEdge

    I call bullsh1t on this article, founders and top management of several silicon valley startups have been Indians and they have hired thousands of americans once their startups got going. My own extended familys start up in California is run by my 2 cousins and they have 20 americans working under them. Out of the staff of 22, only 2 are Indians, who are about to finish their MS and are in last semester. I can readily give examples of Indian innovation as Sun Microsystems & Hotmail. Indians are at the heart of the global silicon valley boom. We are not here, bcoz we stole from whitey, we are here bcoz we cleared interviews, cracked codes and we were willing to go the extra mile, put in extra hours, to do what needs to be done.

    The amount of hours that an Indian student is willing to put in, and the amount of blood, sweat and tears he is willing to go through, will put any x-box addicted, dope smoking, weekend partying cool whitey to shame.

    My own GRE score : 330 in 2016 (Verbal + Quant)

    With my work experience and graduation in engineering from IIT, I was shortlisted for Wharton, Tuck, Darden and INSEAD.

    The only reason I am not there, is bcoz I did not get a full fee waiver. I do not come from a rich family. But when it comes to competition, I can leave most of the crowd, including chinese, in dust.

    Call it whatever you want. Compete with us on a fair ground, stop arm twisting WTO with unfair laws, stop your giant MNCs unfair lobbying and we will show you.

    There are only one people who can compete blow to blow with Indians in working hard, thats the chinese. Sorry to burst your bubble man. This is no longer 1960s, several economies have emerged in a multi polar world and they will compete with you, whether you like it or not.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 10:16 pm Lazy Hero

      Punk,

      If you’re so great why don’t you make India great. You’ve had civilization there for 4000 years and that’s the best you can do?

      I was onsite at Cisco years ago. Since you’re an Indian I’m sure you know that the majority of employees there are of your ilk. Complaining about Indians lying on their resumes and ineffectiveness was rampant amongst Indian hiring managers just like it is with MightyWhitey. I saw countless Indians get the axe. Cisco offered me a job of course.

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    • on January 11, 2018 at 10:21 pm gunslingergregi

      This is no longer 1960s, several economies have emerged in a multi polar world and they will compete with you, whether you like it or not.”””””””””’

      its worse and its not like it or not
      that’s the point of why it is different now
      we don’t have to have that at all

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    • on January 12, 2018 at 3:16 am skorzecin150

      GRE score: 330 in 2016 (Verbal + Quant), then types “bcoz”.

      “Compete with us in a fair ground” No thanks, we have enough kewpie dolls.

      But seriously, we don’t want to compete fairly, we want to crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

      Listen, the only thing you have “us” beaten with (discounting ugliness and BO) is ice cream. We just can’t compete:

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 3:49 am PunkEdge

        @skorzecin150

        “GRE score: 330 in 2016 (Verbal + Quant), then types “bcoz”.”

        “bcoz” typing on internet isnt the same as giving GRE/GMAT. Boohoo. :(. Cho chweeet! :*

        —-

        “But seriously, we don’t want to compete fairly, we want to crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and to hear the lamentation of their women.”

        Awww look at this…. Loud threats from a dying civilization. How cute!

        Son, I hate to disappoint you, but I dont ever see you doing that. Ever. What I do see, is what happened to South Africa, Rhodesia, Zimbabwe. When are the whites reaching minority in USA? 2040? The doomsday scenario will be when the chinese pull the plug on 17 trillion dollar debt or black population embraces islam in USA. Then its showtime!

        Take my advice, son, even in war, dont ever subject your enemy to human right abuses, lest he subjects you the same when you are weaker. Thats why there are warriors ethics. But I know, your kind, the abrahmic religions like islam and christianity dont believe in that. For them persecution of the heathens/pagans/unbelievers is the way.

        Poisoning of children, plundering of defenseless people, raping of a civilization, open loot of resources, you have already done that, several times across history. Native american genocide, countless wars across the world, colonization of africa and asia. Those days are gone, son. Gone.

        Try colonizing asia today with India and China at helm. Two biggest nuclear powered armies. Come get us. Where were you when we went nuclear? What have your sanctions against us achieved till date? We have already had a face off in 1971. If we can beat down your terror ally Pakistan like a dog for 70 years, every day ceasefire violations, we can beat any assault on Indian motherland.

        When India went nuclear, despite wests threat, in simpler words India told them “come suck on it.”, to the entire western hegemony. All their lobbies, their groups, their big black suit bureaucrats, trans-national organizations. All the kings horses and all the kings men.

        The only reason you became superpower is :

        1, Destruction of Europe post WW2
        2, Zero competition in economic terms
        3, Biggest bully on the block who had no one to stand upto
        4, Safe location
        5, No islamic neighbours
        6, You set the rules and you broke them when you wanted.
        7, UN, WTO, IMF all your playground to boss around.

        Those days are over son. They are gone and no matter how many “bunz in the ovenz” you plan, those declining numbers wont ever correct even in 200 years. And thats a long…..loooooooooooong time, to even consider giving these threats. Thats like a bed ridden dying man, saying he will knock an olympion boxer out.

        This is a dumb time for you to give threats, son.

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 4:22 am PA

        Reality check: India is a big brown woman. Muh nukes better worry about China, who has always been imperialistic… regionally. I understand that they have territorial disputes with the Big Brown Woman. China’s intel agencies are what propagated your street shitter image, if you didn’t already know that.

        Your moment of halitosis bluster is a historic aberration. The US can be prosperous and powerful or it can be home to colonial sewage-backflow. It can’t be both. Either way, it’s back to Mumbai with you soon, except without the call centers.

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 8:40 am Lord of the Gulf Stream

        Sure thing, pajeet. You gonna launch those nukes at us from a submarine?

        http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a14783891/someone-left-a-hatch-open-and-crippled-indias-dollar29-billion-submarine/

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 4:09 pm skorzecin150

        Yeah, that’s the old adage. How do you sink a streetshitter submarine? Just knock on the hatch.

        Just love how this “guy” is trying to qualify itself to us. Displaying all the hallmarks of a JIDF female troll.

        Some observations:

        1/ The butthurt is strong
        2/ As is the envy
        3/ As is the jealousy
        4/ To be fair, it’s a common denominator among all lower primates. Whether JIDF troll or actual streetshitter, they can never be actually white (notice the “caste” system where whiter the better), so instead of accepting their place in the world they get angry etc
        5/ Can’t spell “Sir”.
        6/ Is lazy, demonstrating by inability to use correct spelling and grammar. Again a hallmark of the lower primate.
        7/ Claims to be from a great civilization while Europeans “were living in caves”. My my, ancient history is the best it can do. Look out the window and get back to us.
        8/ Beats another lower primate in some obscure battles no one of actual importance cares about and equates that to white martial prowess.
        9/ Makes all these claims about how good it is, oblivious to the fact that internet bragging has the opposite effect of that intended. Very try hard.
        10/ Clearly hasn’t read the works of Robert E Howard.
        11/ Doesn’t understand humor and parody (another low intelligence indicator).
        11/ Could go on and on, but it’s already beclowning itself, so why bother.

        I’m now off to find a picture of a hot indian female, just to demonstrate they’re not all oxygen thieves, I hope it’s not a futile quest.

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 4:13 pm skorzecin150

        That’s 12/, or 11a/, couldn’t decide which. See, even members of the Supa-mega SS 88 Ultra Purity Squad can make mistakes, but unlike the lower primates, we acknowledge and LEARN. We’re not perfect, but we’re as good as we can be, and we’re comfortable with that.

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    • on January 12, 2018 at 3:24 am Chadmore

      You have to back shitskin

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    • on January 12, 2018 at 5:20 am Chris Stevenson

      in all fairness, you are probably a minority in your ethnic group no different than some of my southern European friends. they had functional families of good values who had enough dignity inside that they only had to embrace our culture and work hard to join the late-great-usa. they also share a common trait an antipathy born of disgust and embarrassment at the mere association of themselves with the other filth emanating from their homelands.

      often, they live apart and only among similar of them with high cultural standards. many times they live with the elite of all subgroups isolated from the Prole slop that the former boom times made wealthy beyond their value. this and having to endure prejudice from founding stock due to the behavior of their ethnic cohorts lends itself to a bigoted hatred of their “own” and a summary rejection. even normal black Americans do this. close your eyes among some of them and you would think that you are at a Klan meeting.

      the problem that you have is that it is no longer PC to call shit, shit. and you will not reject the slop level of your cohort since you probably do not have to live or work or send you children to schools in close proximity to them as they destroy the culture and beauty and basic hygiene and dignity of the non-elite neighborhoods of America.

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    • on January 13, 2018 at 10:05 am Doubter

      P-E, we get that you feel pride in your race and spend time here defending Indians.
      But if you honestly think that your country of street shitting subs is remotely comparable to ours, you are being intellectually dishonest.

      Ffs, half of your people cannot maintain acceptable hygiene when living in the west. Given this, anything you say defending your people is just word salad.

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  29. on January 12, 2018 at 4:30 am chateaudesilling

    I volunteered in open source to make a name for myself and prove I can code, but I’ve never been able to get a job. With Apu out of the picture, they might actually have to hire white guys.

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  30. on January 12, 2018 at 5:16 am PunkEdge

    “Muh nukes better worry about China.”

    1, 1962 battle of rezang la

    120 Indian soldiers killed 2000 chinese soldiers. Indian version of Battle of Thermopylae. We have the highest number of martial races in Asia. Most of those 120 soldiers, belonged to a tiny village in North India. They are heroes in their village.

    2, 1989 Battle of Cho La & Nathu La

    300 indian soldiers killed over 800 chinese soldiers.

    Guess who US needs in Indian ocean? Guess who needs India as “pivot to asia” to counter China? Guess who owes 17 trillion dollars?

    “we wuz master race n sheeeiiit” XD

    Guess who is going to knock out whom? Pay close attention to the physique and body language.

    On a serious thoughts, we asians dont fight without reason. We talk our way out of conflict. India and China are two ancient civilizations, from the time period when europe lived in caves. We arent trigger happy to destroy each other like some of our ….ahem…western friends would want us to.

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    • on January 12, 2018 at 6:00 am PA

      What you don’t understand is that your unsolicited efforts to qualify yourself to us, which are veiled in dorky bluster, miss the mark. You are trying to “talk Western” – I’m referring to your comical bragadaccio – and as would be expected, it sounds false. When we assert dominance in a verbal medium, we talk less, we punch more accurately, and we don’t do it in an imploring tone.

      I’ve dealt with Indian tech people. Nice fellows, most of them. The older ones who were educated in legacy colonial British systems can even have a good conversation about Shakespeare.

      But something I noticed… One: all of them, regardless of age or country of birth, have limp handshakes. Two: they can only function when fully on-script. As soon as something goes even a bit wrong, they get hifh-pitched panicky and lash out at the nearest random subordinate.

      You are not the first try-hard Indian commenter here.

      As to Asia, no country there is a match against a mitarized Japan.

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 7:33 am PunkEdge

        “But something I noticed… One: all of them, regardless of age or country of birth, have limp handshakes. Two: they can only function when fully on-script. As soon as something goes even a bit wrong, they get hifh-pitched panicky.”

        indian punjabi boy fights american boy

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 7:38 am PA

        That’s precisely what I’m referring to when I call out your approval-seeking commentary.

        With the planet’s second-highest population at 1.3 billion, India has only won 28 medals in the 24 Olympic games that it has participated in since 1900. Of these, only nine were gold.

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 7:49 am Greg Eliot

        Imagine that, somewhere in the world, one White kid lost a fight to some towelhaid.

        Not that either of them really knew how to throw a punch, mind you.

        And this was supposed to prove, what?

        (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 8:04 am gunslingergregi

        war is a video game

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      • on January 12, 2018 at 10:03 am mendo

        Back in 2015, I had a quote up on my cubicle wall-don’t recall what it was about–but some Indian tech guy stopped by and used that to make a slight against Trump.

        “I disagree,” I told him matter-of-factly.

        He didn’t like that, no doubt assuming that I’d agree with him in hopes of starting a bash Trump conversation.

        What really bugged me was that he started talking more trash as he was walking away to which I again replied “I disagree.”

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    • on January 12, 2018 at 7:52 am Greg Eliot

      We’re the “dying civilization” that every shitskin in the world runs to, including this latest Gunda Din punk who comes ’round chere trying to tell us about the glories of his land that still can’t manage indoor plumbing.

      Sahib, when the flow of traffic is heading the other way, THEN maybe you’ll have a case. Right now you’re playing to a bluffing hand.

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    • on January 12, 2018 at 8:24 am plumpjack

      “On a serious thoughts, we asians dont fight without reason. We talk our way out of conflict.”

      if my country was drowning in filth I’d be frantically talking my way out of conflict too:

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    • on January 13, 2018 at 10:08 am Doubter

      Don’t you have a shower to take streetshitter?
      And don’t forget the deodorant….

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  31. on January 12, 2018 at 6:46 am meistergedanken

    File this under “Corroborating evidence from the field” (can’t have too much supporting data):

    I forwarded this post to a computer programmer acquaintance of mine from college, asking for his thoughts. Here was his reply:

    “Well, the number of recruiters contacting me has increased over the past few weeks. I have had 2 emails and 1 call today alone for developer jobs (PHP, Magento and JavaScript framework) here in NE Ohio and i have made no changes to my profiles (which means they are digging deep and are desperate). All paying much higher than usual, too. It seems the changes if there are any, are having a significant impact on wages. They are going up significantly, from what I have seen.”

    Sounds pretty Great to me!

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  32. on January 12, 2018 at 8:22 am Suburban_elk

    At the end of the day, India is a shit hole and it’s full of people who make it that way.

    Your civilization was something when it was Whiter.

    Now it’s known for what?

    Now you are parasites.

    Some friendly advice. Work harder on your salesmanship.

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  33. on January 12, 2018 at 8:40 am P_Ang

    I worked for a major Security Software company in the US for 2 years as an engineer. They laid off 2100 people and hired 1600 India(ns) to make up for it. Customers constantly complained about comprehension (which shitlibs blaimed on RACIS!!), the Indians couldn’t do the most basic tasks, and the Indian-college educated “programmers” only cut-and-pasted scripts, which they then fiddled with so they never worked. They also NEVER obeyed company policy, but were never fired since they “didn’t understand” despite doing it over and over again. I was laid-off in the second group (which was done to avoid Obama’s Ass-Clown Act) since they didn’t have to pay medical for the Indians overseas. I trained my replacement, a Doctorate in Software Engineering who 1. didn’t know basic grade-school math, and 2.) couldn’t program. Since then the company has done TWO MORE layoffs, and is now going down the crapper faster than an unwanted pregnancy on prom-night.

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    • on January 12, 2018 at 8:46 pm Libertardian

      I’d be curious as to a hint who it was so I can make sure not to use their stuff (not that they all don’t do this, I suppose).

      ‘I was laid-off in the second group (which was done to avoid Obama’s Ass-Clown Act) since they didn’t have to pay medical for the Indians overseas.’

      Funny how liberal meddling never works out the way it’s “supposed” to. Same thing with the $15/hr minimum wage – the big companies automate, and the smaller ones just say fuck it (I’ve seen closed-up mom-and-pops with notes left on the door alluding to this). Then you have more people on the welfare rolls voting shitlib. Oops, our bad.

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    • on January 13, 2018 at 6:00 pm Truth-hammer

      I do not know anything about computers, soft-ware, or programming. Can I get a job there? Please.

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  34. on January 12, 2018 at 9:41 am Enfant Terrible

    Lol, India as a military power. We wouldn’t even need to send an army to fight them, just beam messages of naked blondes, and they’ll forget what they were supposed to be fighting about.

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  35. on January 12, 2018 at 10:15 am Quick Hits and Dangerous Reads: Shithole Countries Edition (12 Jan 2018) – The Cercle Rouge

    […] Related to that, we’ve got this anecdote from a Heartiste about how the Trump effect might be improving IT. […]

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  36. on January 12, 2018 at 10:36 am lost in mod

    now if only the Fed Govt would start hiring english speaking natives at the patent office…

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  37. on January 12, 2018 at 2:14 pm Hashed

    It is true, I realised that because I have an Australian citizenship, suddenly well known American tech companies are approaching me to come over and work in the US. The reason is that they can’t bring people on H1B anymore and Australians can work in the US on a special E3 visa which is much easier to obtain than H1B and better in many other aspects. Since I am a Jew I am sure many here would not like the idea of me coming over and you shouldn’t worry, I would rather live in Israel than in the US any day. But it is nice to have the option, thanks Trump.

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    • on January 12, 2018 at 4:04 pm Anonymous

      We need no more jews in the U.S., but thank you for your input.

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    • on January 12, 2018 at 4:18 pm skorzecin150

      It depends what kind of Jew you are. One who wants to work in partnership with us, or like the vast majority, one of wants to work against us?

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    • on January 12, 2018 at 10:27 pm slarvey weinbeinstein

      well, to be fair, Israel doesn’t have any of that precious, life giving, economy turbocharging diversity for some reason. So, only the wrong kind of people would prefer to live there.

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