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told ex and ex ex put the phone away
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may have thrown ex ex phone out window while driving not sure he he he
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#shitthatneverhappened
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Gunny using his pimp hand. Bravo!
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+1
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Send her this
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbKrnYeKR8ibaY7heWtU_eiYNBga3AbCBMZeDuKKyg7KOIYfc1-I0ZoKv9
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Yo, Mordecai, WTF is (((encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com))) ?!?!?
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Its a random pic of a girl being spanked. Im not sure how to post pictures up properly
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Flirt with girls behind the counter
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Except that’s “Mike’s Pastry” in Boston, and the girls behind the counter are 250#. Been there. The pastries are fantastic, but not much talent on the staff.
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Cool story bro but the girl behind the counter in that vid is obviously not 250 pounds
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If the staff are all in the heavyweight class, that’s a pretty good recommendation for the pastries.
+1 for flirting with anyone might think is at or above her level. If it’s not staff or a customer, pull out the phone, and quietly laugh as you read messages.
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Nah, they were working like slaves. He’d only look like an asshole.
Best bet: Check my own phone, say “Catch you later slut!” Then, leave.
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Go flirt with the cute girl behind the counter
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Get up and talk to another woman. In the same restaurant.
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Flirt with the girls behind the counter
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“Trump walks out of the Trump Tower in Manhattan. Melania is talking excitedly on an iPhone, wearing a $2,000 pink suit bought with the Donald’s money. He pinches her Slovenian cheek with rough affection, slaps her on the buttocks a few times and makes a ‘move-along’ gesture with his hand in regards to phone.”
Story by X. Advice by X.
LOVE by X.
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Me or the phone.
Followed by a firm pimp hand.
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There’s a very strong chance that she’ll choose the phone, so the ZFG had better be strong in your Inner Frame, otherwise your precious little ego is gonna get its ass kicked.
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Excuse yourself to go to the washroom. Quietly tell the waiter she’ll be picking up the check. Then discretely walk out of the restaurant.
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I did that once. I took a girl out for italian, she’s on her phone, I politely tell her I find it rude. She proceeds to hold it under the table as if I wouldn’t notice or maybe she didn’t gaf. I got up, found the waiter, paid my half and walked out. Next day in class was all dirty looks. After class was my balls in her mouth. Maintaining frame is exactly as advertised.
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Hehe.
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It’s Mike’s Pastry in the North End. He already paid for the cannolis or whatever at the counter.
“Just get up and walk out” is a perfectly good option if you already failed hard enough for it to end up like this. Or make a vid of her and smirk the whole time if you want to try and get some practice in. Treat it like a big joke when she gets all shitty about it.
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The kid in this video hasn’t failed – he just got blindsided by a coldcock which he wasn’t expecting.
He’s got excellent facial Physiognomy, and I don’t see anything in the video to indicate that his longterm SMV won’t dwarf hers.
He just needs to get some experience and he’ll be fine.
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“Leave the bitch, take the cannoli.”
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Are you by chance the California guy that has been walking out on women on dates and leaving them with the bill? If so, kudos.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4322864/amp/Man-flees-dates-bill-comes-claims-latest-victim.html
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Lol. That dude takes assholery to a whole new level.
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Get up, get my order and walk out without saying a word. She can find her own way home. Surely, he drove his own vehicle didn’t he? Cucked dude probably doesn’t even have a car and had to ride with her.
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“Cucked dude”
We were all that boy once – being blindsided by a Black Swan event that we weren’t expecting.
But as I was saying at Mendo’s original poast, I think the boy has quality Physiognomy, and he’ll be fine in the long run [although the long run would arrive a he11uva lot sooner if someone would send him a link to the Chateau].
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“Cool phone!!! Let me see…
Put in pocket.
As I was saying…”
Yes I’ve done it. Solid move. If she balks tell her “it’s grown up time”.
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i vote for this one
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“Sentient adjusts his tie. The sky darkens around him as he raises his hands and cries:
‘Power! Ultimate POWWEEEEEEEERR!”
Story by X. This is only a dramatization brought to you on the internet, of all places.
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Stop being gay…
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“I shoot you. You die. Corpse laid out in woods for wolves and ravens to scavenge. Many applaud this.”
Story by Johnny.
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“it’s grown up time”.
this should be one of every guy’s stock chick commands.
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You even touch a girl’s phone in that age group and they treat it like sticking a knife in them. That plastic piece of shit contains their ‘real’ world/alternate reality, where they are very, very important (as per the views and comments they get). Best to deal directly with her, and avoid direct contact with the holy dumbphone.
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^Sounds like JR has the best in-the-field experience with this Evil.
iPhag/scr0tial-media addiction is the greatest threat to the survival of the White race since the bubonic plague.
I’d set groundrules before the d@te concerning a zero-tolerance-policy for iPhags [and then don’t be surprised when she turns you down for the d@te].
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Also, with all of these clever one-liners that people are postulating the boy could throw at her – when the iPhag addiction is this severe, there’s a very strong possibility that she won’t even hear his one-liners – in all likelihood, she’ll be completely oblivious.
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Get up from the table without saying a word and order a drink at the counter. Force her to engage. If she refuses to acknowledge you, chat up the clerk a bit. If your date is still buried in the phone when you’re done, ghost. Maybe shoot her a head nod if she looks at you walking out the door. If this doesn’t cause her to engage via text, she’s lost.
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Get a donut, set it on her head.
“Crown fit for a princess”
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I like this.
Also, fake an epileptic seizure and stab a finger at the princess as if saying “her! her!”
P.S. Trump’s state of the union speech is on in less than 3 hours. Check New York Times dot come for it. The liberal bastards. (Screw Your Torque Times)
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Ask to see her phone, then turn it off. Of course, many women wouldn’t hand over their phone.
Or say “I have a rule for dates. No phones.”
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“I have a rule for dates. No phones.”
That needs to be a ground rule before you even agree to the date in the first place.
100% Analogue/Meatspace & 0% Digital/Clownworld.
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Rules are boring and girls hate them when they can be framed as you being unable to capture their interests. Try framing it as a game. What I do is have my and her phone on the table and the person picking it up has to pay the check. Each can take their phone once the check is paid.
Even if she takes the phone and tries to wiggle out of paying, you’ll get to tease her about being cheap, you can negotiate it to 50-50 in a flirty way etc.
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You’re dealing with an addiction here.
Would you date a chick who was addicted to heroin or cocaine or crystal meth?
One of the most meaningful, purposeful, tangible benefits of swallowing the Red Pill & learning Game & EvoPsych & reworking your Inner Frame is in being at ease with the realization that YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS SH!T.
And once you’ve reworked your attitude to demand better, then you would never have gone out on a date with an iPhag-addicted c*nt like this in the first place.
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>“I have a rule for dates. No phones.”
I do allow an exception to that – if she’s texting a hot friend to meet up for some a Girl-Girl-Mistral threeway.
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Easy. Get up and walk out. Smiling. Relaxed. On the way out say something friendly to someone else if the opportunity there. Jeez is this video real or staged? Resist the temptation to grab the Iphag and smash it.
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This young man has all kinds of good looks. If he learned to appreciate that (instead of White guilt) and harness his power, he would have great dread game and there would be no texting going on with Miss THOT. She would be afraid to lose his attention for a second.
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JR, the kid has outstanding Physiognomy.
Long term, he’ll be fine.
This little humiliation will be a powerful strong learning experience, and he’ll be all the stronger for it.
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Tolerate the phone, you’re a bitch… and will soon be cucked by some dude who won’t.
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Take a photo of her and text it to her with the caption, “I’m about to walk out on this shitty date.”
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^^^That is a f*cking winning comment! Especially if he adds 8======D at the end of it!!
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Take a photo of her and text it to her with the caption, “I’m about to walk out on this shitty date.”
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i like that
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Solid.
A little less butt hurt message maybe. “Boooring…”
As an old man, I honestly can’t imagine dealing with this from a woman. It’s borderline autistic behavior.
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that was my thought, also. that’s a good frame of mind for the kid to work from: “I’m dealing with a very sick person here… How much do I want to be involved with this?”
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[…] A Test Of Your Game: The Lonesome Threesome […]
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There’s no point in trying to salvage this unless you’re just trying to humor yourself. I’d get up and leave.
[CH: almost every bad date scenario is salvageable. think outside the box. (hint: the best response is not anger but amused mastery.)]
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“Hey! Eyes up here, not on my dick pic.”
“What?”
“Put your porn away.”
Frame locked in. Banter away…
[CH: this is a better reply than most I’ve seen so far. It’s funny and jerkish and assumes the sale. “you can stop looking down at my crotch now.” good stuff.]
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The key is whether the spoken words would even dent the protective bubble surrounding her iPhone addiction.
He’d have to scream it at her – which would be Boss Alpha – but that would take nads of titanium for a high school boy.
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Meaning that to pull her attention away from the iPhag, he’s gonna hafta scream “HEY STOP LOOKING AT MY DICK PIC!!!” at the top of his lungs, and everyone in the entire eatery is gonna hear it.
[Whereas if he delivers the line in a normal conversational tone of voice, then it won’t even register on her radar.]
Nads of Titanium are gonna be required for a move that bold.
Nads of Titanium.
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I know most here will dismiss my answer as fabulist, but here is the simple truth, and what I always do: I never let it get to that point because I establish immediately what I expect from the girl and what kind of man I am. And they always follow suit.
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All of us could maybe get one pass for our first encounter with severe iPhag addiction, but once you’ve seen it in person, you’re gonna hafta set ground rules before any new d@tes.
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cutie behind the counter gave him a good look. ditch the twat and make your move with extreme prejudice, son.
you’re worth 10 million times more than this vapid cunt. learn to relish the feeling of her not being good enough for you. because she ain’t.
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“you’re worth 10 million times more than this vapid cunt.”
That was the very first thing I thought when Mendo poasted the video.
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A few different paths, depending how well I know this c*. All of which end up with me ejecting.
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Calmly stand up.
Begin unbuckling pants whilst maintaining a shit (heh) eating grin. Once you have her attention; begin, without breaking eye contact, taking a dump.
Buckle up and walk out. Cue the Mentos song.
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that might work
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“Once you have her attention”
BP, you’re making that possibly fatal assumption that you would even get her attention in the first place.
With severe iPhag addiction [which is becoming increasingly normal these days], she won’t even notice you unbuckling your pants.
All of these moves that you dudes are suggesting will require absolutely rock-solid imperturbable ZFG of Inner Game, because there’s a very real chance that you’re about to make a complete fool of yourself [at least from the point of view of a Normie who still cares what people think of him].
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rock-solid imperturbable ZFG of Inner
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my own personal method:
be a man and chat, entertain, do, put the girl in the mood. Once the girl is in the mood, she will basically do everything else. Ask questions, show interest, use wordplay. It doesn’t really matter what you say, it matters what you convey.
[CH: wrong. don’t ask a lot of questions. that’s interrogative and charmless. make statements, then follow up with a question.]
Surely sitting like a sad lost kid won’t get her anywhere.
If everything fails, get up and go.
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“be a man and chat, entertain, do, put the girl in the mood”
You’ve got no first-hand experience with iPhag addiction.
There is the very real possibility that she won’t even notice anything you’re doing.
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I also wrote “if everything fails, get up and go”
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Not take her out at all until she’s practically grabbing at my c0ck.
Good grief. Clearly she didn’t agree to meet him for pastries (itself a bad idea) because she liked him. I’m really beginning to suspect that girls are more likely to accept dates with betas than alphas, because in their mind, they’re not committing themselves to anything. Whereas they’ll accept an alpha’s date offer only when they’re good and ready to make love to him.
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She doesn’t have to put forth any effort and gets the validation of the poor sap drooling over her. Teasing the poor bastard.
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“I’m really beginning to suspect that girls are more likely to accept dates with betas than alphas”
This kid doesn’t have Beta physiognomy – he’s got powerful strong cheekbones & temple.
He just needs to find his balance, and he’ll be fine.
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He’s a natural “Delta”… but needs a mentor.
Feck.
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Start fishing through her purse? I don’t know.
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That’s the kinda kino which MIGHT break through the iPhag addiction.
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Bonus points if there’s a tampon with inserter and he breaks it out and starts smoking it like a cigar.
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Make like you’re going to the bathroom and never return. Block her number.
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I had this happen to me once. One chilly December evening in Geneva I met a hot Albanian girl on the spur of a moment via an app. We met up in a cozy pub down the street from my apartment around 10.30pm and had a drink or two. She took out her phone and I took it from her and out it in my pocket. If I’d done that to a Swedish girl, I’d have probably banged her within minutes. Being from an outer Hajnal country like Albania, she was probably used to, and perhaps sick of, brutish male behaviour. Either way, I guess I ran weak game that night because I couldn’t convince her to come up for a glass of wine and thereby didn’t seal the deal. I was either too brutish, or too British in my approach that night.
You can’t always win.
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Strand up. Grab her phone. Start dancing whilst making a Snapchat story. Go take selfies with other ppl at the restaurant. Say, “okay okay, you can have your phone back.” Start to hand it to her, “but not yet.” Make another snap of you thrusting your pelvis into the phone. “Ok, here you go.” Start to hand her the phone, but as she puts her hand out, pull the phone back, lick it, then hand it to her.
[CH: this is good. you can’t go wrong with “children’s games” game. (because women are in fact overgrown children)]
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Move my chair around to her side to read over her shoulder, giving jerkboy commentary the entire time.
If she tries to playfully hide it, wrestle with her to see. If she gets pissy, leave.
[CH: very good! the level of commentary is inching upward (heh)]
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Okay, it’s gonna require a lot of quality Kino & plenty of good fortune.
He’ll need to pick up his chair, and carry it around to her side of the table, and push it right up next to hers, and sit down, shoulder to shoulder & tricep to tricep & lats to lats & hips to hips, so that they can feel each others’ body warmth.
And he may need to do some wheedling & cajoling to get her to let him see the iPhag screen – a mere “Gimme your iPhag” likely won’t be good enough – but if he can get her to share, then he would proceed to run what would essentially be “Game Game” [January 26, 2018; by CH].
“Okay, for that guy, you wanna go radio silent on him – don’t answer him before Wednesday.”
“Now that guy, you can make fun of him – reply by saying ‘Weak. My grandpa dished up colder Negz than that for Thanksgiving dinner.'”
“And this guy, just reply with ‘LOL @ micro-penis’.”
ON THE OTHER HAND, if she gets all pissy and refuses to play along, and shuts down the iPhag and shoves it in her purse, then now he’s got her full attention in MeatSpace, and his face glows with a playful smirk, and he says, “Aww, you’re so cute when you’re angry!”
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nah – in the immortal words of dagbfm, one cock rule
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The rules of the Game [as set forth by CH] are that we’re trying to salvage something here.
Anything to break through the iPhag addiction and start showing up on her radar.
And maybe all that can be salvaged is that he proves he’s funny, clever, and not a stick in the mud.
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Breaking her attention away from the iphag while maintaining at least plausible deniability that she’s not violating the one cock rule is one thing …
… pulling up a chair and participating in her trolling for cock right in front of you is quite another.
One cock rule is immutable.
Like I said, I’d take the phone out of her hand and just go Obiwan kenobi on her. You dont want to look at your iphag right now; nah you don’t care that I just took it away from you; you’re not always this predicable; you’d rather sit on my lap.
if she balks, gently put the phone on the floor under your seat (so as not to break it) and get up and walk away. might troll her by laughing and taking a pic as she gets bends over to pick up her preciousssssssss. “cheeeeeese!”
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Ghost. Leave her the bill. Life is to short for this sort of shit
[CH: ok an understandable reaction, but let’s say you’re a young man with time to burn and a love for the challenge.]
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I mean this is what everyone would actually do. Salvage ideas are good in the abstract but when rubber hits the road I’m out.
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If i was a young man. Really depends on the relationship.
I would say you need to snap her out of it hard. flick water at her then snatch the phone out of her hand. Keep the phone off her like a ball from a child. Pretend to start txting people on her phone and have a laugh.
Or, send her something disgusting like a picture of flesh eating bacteria. Something that gives her a slap in the face to snap her out of it.
Redardless, I dont think words are enough in this situation
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I would only leave the date if she continues doing it after I made a comment on it, because I see it as a test. If she puts it away, fine, continue the date and have sex. No need to next her that fast.
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Since he’s already leaning in, just put elbows on table and mirror her stance and pretend to have a cell phone and do the same thing. Smile while doing itas if enjoying a good text. When she looks up or otherwise takes notice of you, ignore but make a buzzing sound as if your imaginary cell phone is ringing. Answer it with enthusiasm but ambiguously as to who it is. While holding it to your ear as if eager to talk to the caller, get up —continue ignoring her —in fact, raise your index finger to her as if you are requesting she excuse you for a minute. I don’t really know where to go with this, it’s just to break her frame. Maybe when she pays attention to you, you could put the caller on hold and say something like listen, there’s this really cool thing we can go to, but we gotta leave now. And then just make some more stuff up.
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“When she looks up or otherwise takes notice of you”
Again, it sounds like you don’t have much real world experience with iPhag addiction – you’re making the assumption that eventually she will take notice of you – when it’s entirely possible that she doesn’t even remember you’re there.
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Take a photo of her and draw a dick headed towards her face with the caption “…in an alternate universe.” and send it to her.
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“I was going to tell you to put your phone down, but I just decided I don’t really care.” Go order a pastry, get said pastry and breathe a deep breath of fresh air as you walk out slowly, like the free man you are.
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Take phone. Start texting lyrics to Anal Cunt songs to whoever she was texting with.
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Assuming there is a cute enough girl working at that place, I would get up from the table without announcing what I was doing, go up to the counter, and start talking to the cute female staffer. Don’t look back at your date, she is already proven yourself on worthy of your attention. Talk to the cute stuff girl. Making excruciatingly long. Almost to the point of absurdity. When you are done turn around and look at your date. If she is still on her phone, just walked out the front door without saying anything. If not, sit down and casually engage her in conversation like nothing happened. If she tries to shit test you, just work your charming magic like Heartiste has taught you .
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Proven herself unworthy of your attention *
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Meh, I’m still not much of a gamester, I guess. I can’t see the point of trying to retrieve the situation — got better things to do than look at some wench typing away on her phone. If she’s that much of a jackass, who the hell wants anything to do with her?
Finish eating if I was hungry, say, “You got this, right?” and walk out and drive off. If I wasn’t hungry, just leave and go for a short hike, spend a little time at the range, whatever.
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we have a girl here who severely overvalues herself. she takes his approval for granted. if he walks, he has her hooked with very little effort and very little time wasted. he can game her another day, on his terms. “I’ll see you only if you behave yourself this time”.
feeling like he has to “change things up RIGHT NOW OR OMG GAWD HE’S GOING TO LOSE THE DATE!” is playing into the tarts frame of “it’s not or never. impress me or be forever a loser”.
fuck that. time is money. do it on her terms kid. make her wait a month to see you again after blowing it.
SHE ruined the date. not you.
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on *your* terms, kid
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The only game I’m pretty good at is aloof game and it doesn’t work here.
However this kind of thing is quite common and not a sign of disinterest as much a form of chick tech driven narcissism
if my “date” pulled that crap I’d give her my cold as ice look and dead smile tell her directly “have a good date” and just leave
if my order was up I’d take it go. Mine only. she can pay for her own. Do tip the waitress though, not her fault.
if my date asked what happened I’d just ask her “why do you think I asked you out?”
if she was being obtuse my replay would be ‘dating requires communication and reciprocal attention, you clearly more interested in your phone.”
End communication
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Text her a photo of the birthday cat…… the randomness will generate a confused and intrigued response. Then run with it kid.
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Section 8 Game: stand up like this guy
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Alternately, say “That’s not how you put your hands for arm wrestling.” Plant elbow on table, grab her right hand, and push it down to the table in one motion. When her iPhag goes flying, look after it with raised eyebrows, say “Oops,” and then strike up a conversation as if nothing happened.
If she raises the snit flag, leave.
(Maybe a bit too violent, I don’t know.)
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No, not too violent, because what this girl really deserves and needs is a open palm across her face with a stern, “Put that Goddamned phone away!” That is really the only way these spoiled, overvalued wenches are going to get re-trained. Sadly, not allowed in our ‘society’.
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Yes, the “not allowed” is what I was thinking of with “a bit too violent.” If the laws were looser, the “arm wrestling” thing is what I’d go for.
As it is, not sure if I’d want to risk getting arrested for “assaulting” some rude narcissistic clown who isn’t worth belching at. Plenty more fish in the sea, why possibly get manhandled by cops over a piece of trash like her?
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Hopefully you have one coming down the line and lift up a cheek and let one drift out all the while staring at her with a big smile on her face. When she looks up with that “OMG what the fuck is that smell” look on her face…just blow her a kiss.
Let her know, either she entertains you or you will find a way to entertain yourself.
Warning: Some women get into the fart sniffing stuff so……
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“Are you googling what to say when your nervous on a first date with a hunk?”
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That’s a good line, but, again, when the iPhag addiction is this extreme, you’re gonna hafta work really hard just to get the line to register somewhere in her frontal cortex.
Are you willing to scream it at her, so that all the employees & the other customers also hear it?
You could try walking around the table and whispering it in her ear, with your nose right there in her hair…
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are you tweeting about how awesome I am / what a great date you’re on?
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Use the ifag drawing feature. Draw a penis, text it to her. Then she’ll look up confused/annoyed/maybe a sinister smile. Then you reply depending on her reaction:
confused- “That’s what you get when you bury your head in that fucking phone. Next time it won’t be so well endowed.”
Annoyed- “Yeah, I sent you a hand drawn penis. This is what happens when you bury yourself in that phone and leave me to my own devices.”
Sinister smile- “You’re welcome (sinister smile).”
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“everything okay with the babysitter?”
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I seem to recall one commenter noting how the antics of Stone Cold Steve Austin would not be out of line in this type of situation.
[CH: whorefinder?]
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Blast From the Past Rape!
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Confiscate the phone
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Wait, I’ve got an even better idea. This is a pastry shop right? Pastries are very sexy food. So get some cupcakes, sit down in front of her, start eating, and slowly start making sensual noises like “mmmmmmm” and “oooh”. Get into it, run your hands through your hair, lick your lips, swirl your tongue on the icing, maintain eye contact. Work yourself up into a “When Harry Met Sally” Meg Ryan frenzy until you are screaming “oh God yes” and every patron is starring and she is beat red. Then offer her a bite. If she can’t laughingly and embarrassingly engage you in banter after, walk out.
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Honestly, as one gets older, you see so much female bullshit you just get too tired to try to find clever ways to counter it.
At this point, if you’re not going to go full Muslim on her and give her a few Halal kisses with your knuckles–which I don’t do—then I would just stand up and walk out and forget her.
Not putting down the guys who do a clever thing—please, go for it—it’s just as time runs out, you realize life’s too short to deal with trash.
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Start eating her food. Slyly steal it at first them keep getting more brazen until she notices. Keep playing off like you dindu nuffin. Even when you get caught deny it talking with a mouth full of her food. She’ll get excited from playing that game and forget about the phone. Crucial to maintain playful but not childish frame throughout.
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It begins way before the video. First he should take his hands off his vagina, and learn to sit like a man and not like a neutered lap dog.
I’d throw crumbs or pieces of napkin at her if I was feeling playful. Dripped in saliva for extra fun.
I actually don’t mind when my woman is on the phone. Gives some respite from the chatterbox, one can just survey the room and think about my own stuff.
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I would have went up to the counter and pretended to be interested in buying, or actually buying, something, and then hanging around up there until THOT came up with a “Hey, watcha doing?”. Sitting there passively is giving her power over you. BTW, that young man is straight-up Aryan, and could do a lot better, if he tried, than that gum-chewing social media whore.
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Smack it out of her hand and tell her you thought you saw a nasty bug crawling on it (bug being code for other dudes).
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Getting up to order, or pretend to order something is at once (1) not rude (in fact, normal at such a venue), and (2) takes the power away from her. Difficult for her to challenge him. If he does that move repeatedly, she consciously, or subconsciously, will learn that being an ignorant fool just drives him away.
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If you have phone number (which if you’re on a date with her I’m assuming that’s a yeah)… Whip our your phone and text her “8=======D~~~”
Or you can do what I would and just kick back and put your feet on the table obnoxiously, hands resting behind your head while you check out the cute gal behind the counter.
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This could be stacked in front of my script, actually. A very good way to justify her looking at my “dick pic.”
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Given the egregiousness of this situation, I would probably not joke with her. I would stand up and say, “See you later.”
When she says, “What?? Where are you going?”
I’d say, “You seem distracted,” and point at her phone.
If she convinced me to stay, then I would stay. Part of that convincing would have to include her putting her phone away. If not, I’d leave.
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I get this reaction, but the problem is that it comes across as too much butthurt.
Best route is to treat her like a joke to reel her back in (if possible).
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Bitch is not only glued to her i-phag but is chewing a gum as well
Both of these offenses are punishable by a hard slap which would separate her from both instantaneously
Since you cannot do that in this decadent age the only
thing you can do is walk way
Walk away slowly and never turn back.
neither while your walking away, nor in a day or two, never
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OT but CH and some here may want to know
https://dailystormer.top/
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steal her food, play with her hair.
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Grab the phone wall out the door with it….go find another girl get her number …put it in.
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This one is tough, because without any context it is hard to say what the next play is. The gut reaction of most to get away fast and maybe leave a shitlord bomb of some sort is likely the best play, but I’m going to approach this as -if it were me-, because I’ve been in this very situation before.
During my match.com reign of terror a few years back I was going balls out and often spinning plates at a crazy pace. So I met all manner of freaks and narcissists as I would sometimes have 2-3 diff girls a week I was meeting. It was like a second job in a lot of ways and got to the point where it wasn’t actually enjoyable anymore. Anyways! I digress, I met “that girl” same lost in another world shit test. As you may know if you read me here, dread game is my forte because besides being on the handsomeish end of things, I’m pretty fucking scary when I “turn it on”.
Jay’s play here, (which is the same one I actually made when it happened). You are dealing with a vapid self absorbed cunt and attention whore, so act appropriately. She needs hyper stimulation of the hamster at all times. She is lost in another world. She is also making you look like a total cuck and loser, reciprocate.
(partial credit to dickycone because I did IRL what he suggested, LOL, but with a part 2)–
I picked up her wallet (she didn’t bring a purse, but you could do either). She is in a different world, may as well provoke a confrontation, fuck it. ZFG. I was rifling through her shit and the tragic part is, it went on for a bit before she was even cognizant of it. Of course once she got her cuntbrain out of the screen: ”
“HEY! What are you doing?!”
Jay: “Calm down! While you were lost in that other world, I noticed smoke coming out of your wallet, I thought something might be burning.”
(incredulous look)- “You what? How the hell would there be smoke?”
Jay: “That is what I was thinking but hey, at least it didn’t go further and fully catch on fire, you’re welcome! Cute kid by the way, were you going to mention you had one, or is he not yours?”
Maintaining a look of total concern / seriousness is of paramount importance here because you must look like SHE is crazy for asking you why her wallet may have just burst into flame. You are fighting the deleterious effect of chick crack which is hard, so you have to present an even more novel and exciting situation which these days, is a nearly superhuman effort.
At this point she snatched the wallet back and briefly returned to reality and we had some more small talk, but alas, the clarion call of the hamster dance tune is like trumpets on high to that tiny brain attached to that giant amygdala ever throbbing and pulsing for the next hit. So DING! ding. ding. came all the little pavlovian bells from phone and back she went to it. This time texting rapidly and I was pretty sure she was telling her other ‘dial-a-dick’ or whoever she was talking with about what just happened with her nearly incendiary wallet incident. She was smirking while writing.
This was when I realized it was time to cut bait. A normal guy (not me) would have just let it go and quickly finished up the shitshow date or just walked. But though Jay has been called many things, one thing I always am is an educator because I’m a do’er not a talker. For better or worse because the consequences of doing / education can be severe sometimes. But if I didn’t educate this girl would do this again to some other poor schlub and I would not have left the world a better place.
So a final act to keep her pellet brain grounded in the here and now. She continued ignoring me like I wasn’t here even after all that. I had half a glass of water left in front of me that I had ordered. She is in beta orbiter phone land again, I’m back to being invisible. So I “accidentally” knocked that half a glass of water over and it spilled across the table and onto her lap. Now she was paying attention again! See how that works you vile self-absorbed bitch?
Her: “WHAT THE FUCK!”
“Shit, sorry! I was getting my phone out too like you and bumped it by accident, let me go to the bathroom and grab you some paper towels.”
(I’m smiling by the way while saying all this with her look of horror that the cold waters of reality had once again snatched her from the cyber crack house).
I got up and walked to the bathroom, but with no intention of getting that bitch anything. When I re-emerged she had bailed, unsurprisingly. (which is what I was about to do).
Did she learn anything? Maybe, maybe not. Was I at least an educator that day? A resounding yes.
The take home message is this: She is doing whatever the fuck she wants at your expense. Punking you, and embarassing you. Return the favor in as extreme a way possible without provoking a call the the Captain Save-a-Ho’s, I mean the police. Anyone who has that little regard for you as a human being should be treated about the same you’d treat a barn animal at best. In my perfect version of this story I’d have taken her home for some bondage, light choking, and hate fucking. But I knew from observation the chance of that was very low even with me putting her in outrageous situations.
Remember what Jay says– ZFG. To be anything else is to not understand the grim reality of our situation.
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bravo, Jay. great story. I’m gonna start making popcorn before reading your posts.
“Return the favor in as extreme a way possible without provoking a call the the Captain Save-a-Ho’s, I mean the police.”
yeah. what’s truly called for in the op-ed is illegal, so go down your list to the next best, most severe thing you can do that IS legal, which is outright rejection. reject, but with a flourish.
ironically, that’s also one’s best shot at getting her hooked and coming back for more. but who cares.
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Cripes, I can see a full movie treatment of your character, the role of Jay in D.C. to resemble Travolta in “Get Shorty.”
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Find the nearest cutest girl and start chatting her up. Then take your phone out like you’re exchanging numbers. This may bother her but she probably won’t say anything. Then for the rest of the day, quickly glance at your phone then chuckle.
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Knowing most o’ youse yeggs, you’d take out your iPhag and challenge her to a game of Candy Crush.
You fairies.
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LOL whats candy crush?
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Reach over and start tapping your fingers on the screen of her phone messing up her typing, she’l say “stop” and if she goes back to it, take the phone off her, place it on the table and say “not now”. If she goes back to it, walk out of the restaurant.
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the worse is when she leans over and shows you a vid of a dog fucking a chick
and ya see she has a limitless supply of porn vids on top of that and to top that off she 17
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think the day I really really gave up on American chicks
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by 12 they have seen their first donkey show and had first 4 some
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by 30 are they still even human?
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They cyberborgs by 18.
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Shit that never happened.
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I feel bad for the guy. Look at his body language. He’s clearly uncomfortable, but has been taught by bad parents and a worse culture, to just take whatever the woman does.
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“has been taught by bad parents”
He came out of a 19th Century Victorian household and he just got gob-smacked by a 21st Century cesspool.
But he has excellent Physiognomy, and he’ll be okay in the long run.
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I know that feeling myself. My bluepill days were pretty much a throwback to the 1850s; I despised feminists utterly even then, for example.
Actually getting out among late 20th century women was like being plunged in amongst a bunch of aliens. It took several years for the reality to sink in. After it did, I turned to the EE wenches. Not that that turned out great, either..
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I feel for the poor bugger. We all had to start somewhere and to watch him just sit there and be ignored by some rude bitch whilst you know his heart is just dying inside of him is painful. However, with pain comes growth and the sooner he gets the word and takes the medicine, the better he will be.
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As a game newbie, I’ve been on two dates in January and on both the girls didn’t even glance at their phones. Not even fucking once. Why the fuck is this guy just sitting there??? jeez
I would trust in my confidence to say “me or the phone” and walk out. got more important things to be on about. But as other commenters are saying, flirting with the girl behind the counter is probably a decent idea too
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Never “date” at the cafeteria.
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Unzip your fly, unfurl manhood, relax bladder muscles, stand, aim…
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Message your best female friend and brief her to call you.
Answer when she calls and organise a date in front of this girl for an hour after this date or invite your female friend to this date and hang with her. Either your date gets a grip of herself in light of competition (selection) or you simply have a good time with your friend and start ignoring your date.
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Honestly its gotten to the point in my life that banter based game , in a situation like this, is beneath my dignity. There is no way a woman would try that shit on me and if she did I would confidently get up and walk out. Ride home..not my problem – she can hitchhike for all I care.
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Quietly slip off a shoe then slip your foot between her knees.
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I liked this one.
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I dunno – first the dude has to reframe the whole fucking thing for himself, and acknowledge to himself that that this is a fucked-up unconscionable situation – bitch is truly embodying a shite burger at the moment, – how to get the mind to go along with the suppressed emotion he surely is feeling along those lines, but that the dude is trying hard to suppress and push down into his guts?, and it’s the secondary emotions related to said suppression that are calling the shots frame-wise for him at the moment – because if he is suppressing the fact that she is embodying a shite burger at the moment, well then – where is the truthful original suppressed impression gonna go? It’s gonna end up being projected upon his own self – and that is clearly what is going on there – he is starting to feel like a shite burger himself, because he won’t acknowledge the truth, and self-disrespect is the biggest sin of all and can quickly become a vortex of negative feedback.
OK – so first, to get his mind realigned with reality, in that moment, he has gotta use his body to help realign his mind. Stretch out. Lean back, take his fucking hands out of his crotch, open the arms wide, rest a hand on the adjacent chair, spread the legs, and look all around the shithole place and take in just what a shit scene he surveys. When he decides to say something it should be loud (fuck that shite scene).
OK – what he says now, no matter what he says, it’s gonna be the right thing. Probably call her out as loser. Probably say shit like – ‘hey you always eat with your mouth open and dribble crumbs when you talking to your colleagues? Or is that your momma you be texting with there? Or you boss? God you’re rude. Your momma taught you no manners about how to behave when with the boss – girl?’ Then maybe lean in a bit and gently pull on her funny forelocks. ‘You’re just a little girl – aren’t you?’
If she submits to that reframe, well, go with the funny little girl thing, but start making it a bit about how that be cute – and maybe cute is OK and all that. If she doesn’t submit to the reframe – well fuck it then – burn the place down. Provoke her. That can be mucho fun and hilarious. Bottom line – you gotta think like – ‘no matter what happens I AM GONNA HAVE A GOOD TIME. If you want to make it about being at your expense – I fucking luv that shit too!’
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This is the best comment. It is amazing what you can see and how you feel when you stop and just *look*,
No mental talk. No, “if she doesn’t stop that then I’ll…”
Just get back to yourself and your present reality with no nervous, self-reassuring “self-talk”. That is never a wrong move. It takes away all of her importance to you and puts you at the center of your own world.
Doesn’t matter what you do after that.
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“It is amazing what you can see and how you feel when you stop and just *look*”
wise words, VD and WM.
yes, there is no immediate need to *react* in this situation. just stop and take it all in, see the whole picture. one can never go wrong with that.
once he enters into his own, independent state of mind he could pretty much do anything and it would work… for HIM.
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Don’t be thirsty and pre-qualify better. But, if you missed an early clue, next
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Stand up, and say, “Jesus, I am dead after that [whatever food]. Time for a cuban”.
I’m pretty straightedge so she’ll probably say ” do you smoke?”
And I’ll say “nah, but there’s a statue of an Indian in that cigar shop down the way. Apparently it’s good luck to rub the headdress. Like a smelly red buddha. Leggo”
Grab hand, get to walking, reopen convo. 2 or 3 more surprises like that and
a stogie won’t be the only thing she’s puffing on.
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I’d text her that I thought the pink sweater worn by by the girl behind the counter looked really cute and ask her if she had a pink sweater like that.
If she said (texted) back yes, I’d say (text) back “Great. Let’s go back to your place because I’d love to see what you look like when you take off it and casually drop it at my feet.” If she says no I’d say the same thing but replace “Great” with “That’s too bad, because…” then end my response with “Think the gal behind the counter would sell us hers for $20? You know what? Don’t answer that. (Putting my hand out). Just give me $20. Seriously. C’mon. $20. I’ll just go ask her.”
“Here’s $20” – Then go get the sweater. Or at least HER phone number. Keep the $20 or at least make her earn it back.
“No. I’m not giving you $20.” – Respond, “Hmmm ok. Well. (Get up and head for the door pausing long enough to ask what’s up then tell her…) We’re going back to your place anyway and you’re going to show me what other color sweaters you have. I’m going to worn you now though. I can be really picky.”
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Any time I so much as glance at my phone in my guy’s presence, he texts me. Usually something along the lines of “having fun?”. It’s very effective at getting me to put it away and apologize.
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Why do you do it in the first place? You know it’s rude.
Of course,people around here text while riding a motorbike so I suppose common sense has nothing to do with it.
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Off topic.
The latest interview between Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson.
Of course they talk about the Peterson – Cathy Newman interview on British TV.
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Last Rogan interview with him I saw he was spreading the Holohoax lie.
Another occasion I have seen him denying the reality of race.
If he isn’t an official distractor and misleader, he will do until one gets here.
Zero out of 100 for him.
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Yeah, there’s something “not quite right” about Rogan. It’s like he’s saying the things he thinks you want to hear, then occasionally the “real” Rogan shows himself. Or maybe it’s just the (((man))) behind the curtain.
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As a 25+ year bow hunter, I want to smack his fucking bald head when he starts pontificating as an expert at something he’s been doing for about 24 months.
He should stick to MMA, BJJ and DMT. He’s out of his depth talking about anything else.
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“Are you shopping for cat #25?”
“You know they can’t email you the VD test results, right?”
“Trying to remember which johns you have scheduled for later?”
“Why do you need to bother with a Cosmo test to confirm you’re 100% a cunt? I could have told you that.”
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Meanwhile, in her iPhag-addicted haze, she isn’t aware that any of those lines ever came out of your mouth in the first place.
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Leave the phone. Take a cannoli.
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Reach over and gently yank her hair.
She wouldn’t wear her hair like that if she didn’t want it yanked.
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LOL I still do this to my bitch
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Rule one…dont take a woman anywhere that allows her to sit down across from you, with a table in between each other, and expect anything to happen. You should be somewhere fun that makes her want to tag along for rhe ride. You should both be walking around with you dragging her around. Like a boardwalk with games and small bars. The kind of place that makes her adhd go insane cause theres too much to see and do.
Anyways, he should reach over and tap on her phones screen. Most women put their phone away. If she laughs and puts the phone away…switch locations asap.
If she gets irritable and keeps tapping on her phone. Just fn leave. Tell her your going to the restroom and fn leave. If that bitch needs a ride, she can call uber or call daddy and explain why her date wont take her home.
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Shit test failed. Get up and leave with whatever dignity remains intact.
That was painful to watch.
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Umm, been here in this exact situation, this is what I did:
Pulled out my phone
Stated texting her, RIPPING ARART the other people in the restaurant,
like (well I don’t remember exact words) but said shit like this:
“Oh, shit look at that fat fuck behind you, if he finishes that hamburger he’s gonna ‘spoie”
“Can that chicks hair get any more orange”
Blah blah blah you get the point
NEVER be butthurt guys, always look for the opportunity to be an asshole.
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You are being an asshole at other people’s expense and much more importantly and more deadly- you are working WITHIN HER FRAME.
I.E. You are in meatspace a living breathing human being sitting across from this cooze and you are texting each other as if you 1000 miles away? Fuck that noise. Spill the drink or accidentally pull her hair, whatever. Embarass that sociopathic narcissist and get away with it.
Butthurt has nothing to do with it. It is called dignity and not being fucking clown shoes for her to laugh at. You can run that BS clown game you described and when a predatory alpha Chad comes by you will be relegated to the court jester role you so aptly deserve immediately.
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Yeah. If she pulls out a dollshouse and dollies are we supposed to join her in playing with them?
What does she have in her slit? Gold?
Let the nigs have her. She is already halfway to non-human anyway.
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LOL Dude you actually sound a little butthurt….
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“LOL Dude you actually sound a little butthurt….”
So fucking erudite. The comeback of the guy who has never done what he says even once successfully.
You have no comeback because you have no frame of reference for totally controlling a situation and a woman. I’d bet 20 dollars you aren’t over 25, 30 max. Your entire generation are dicks swinging in the wind because you cannot fathom walking into a room and having a woman be more interested in you than her phone. It is a total alien concept.
So you are right, I’m butthurt for your entire generation of men who were completely failed by their fathers. Carry on plebe, you are dealing with something far beyond your ken / paygrade.
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HAHAHAAHAHAHHAHHAHA
Now after your response I KNOW your butthurt!!!!!!
Wow this touched a nerve with you, eh buddy? Did some chick with a cellphone hurt your feelings???? Possibly you were beaten with a cellphone as a child?
Never go full retard
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“Let’s get this threesome going already. But we need you to hold the camera after she gets here. Think you can handle that?”
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“If you put your phone down, you can see how hot that girl is over there.”
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Get a napkin and draw a picture of a girl being spanked on it. She will notice and wonder what you are drawing, hopefully. Hold it up for her and look teasingly pointedly at her.
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“She will notice and wonder what you are drawing, hopefully.”
When the iPhag addiction is this extreme, she likely won’t notice anything you’re doing.
Now if you were to draw it on her clothes, or on her skin, then that might wake her up.
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I’ve never encountered it, so you may be right. Chicks dig drawing, so her subconscious may notice and draw her attention. It isn’t imperative she notices, but would be better.
It would also be good if she didn’t want other customers to see the spanking picture.
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If it were summertime, and if she were wearing a White T-Shirt, then you could take an El-Marko permanent marker and walk around behind her and draw it on her back.
That would be Boss Alpha, especially if it were a $750 T-Shirt from Nordstrom.
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Or carefully draw a retarded picture of her.
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Drawing caricatures if you have the skill is an excellent neg and dhv.
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Brotha obviously hasn’t made it past A1, which means the situation calls for ruthless stacking of negs, DHVs, and ZFG IODs.
Step 1: Fix supplicating body language. Sit back, relax, and begin smirking/chuckling at how appallingly tone-deaf your date’s behavior is. Wait for her to notice and respond indignantly on cue.
Step 2: Make observational statements with embedded negs/compliance tests: “I’m trying to figure out if this is supposed to win me over or if this is just the way you are on dates”
Step 3: Assuming you managed to get her attention, you can begin to transmute her indignation into compliance by qualifying (IF AND ONLY IF her buying temperature is showing signs of heating up): “I was hoping this wasn’t going to be a complete waste of time like most of my dates… I’m kinda sick of JUST hooking up, ya know? [sarcastic disappointment]”
Once you conjure a few IOIs, that’s when you know you can get back to the script.
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order expensive
leave and let her pay
don’t respond to her first few text
when finally responding respond with
“shh, i’m sleeping”
turn off phone
if she’s still trying to reach you the next day
“do i have your attention yet?”
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You reach over and give her screen a couple of playful taps with your fingers. If she’s halfway near a normal girl she’ll act annoyed, get fake offended, or get a look of shock on her face… but she’ll put the phone away.
That’s her last warning to behave like a civilized adult. If the phone comes out again, you calmly take it and stick it in your pocket. If she makes a huge, non-shit test fuss, then it’s over and you walk away.
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What is that from?
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Godfather
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Maybe if he had a couple other plates make a phone call, flirt a little bit and set a date with another girl.
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Pull out my phone and text her: “bring the movies” or Birthday Cat or “hey, while you’re up, get me an apple fritter”
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I dunno, man, following her lead into Digital/ClownWorld is at least a tacit [if not overt] admission of defeat.
The whole point of this exercise is to lure [if not yank] her out of Digital/ClownWorld and back into Analogue/MeatSpace.
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We all live partly in Digital/ClownWorld now. To opt out is to forfeit the field to others.
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I once told a girl to GTFO from my car verbally because she was constantly being silent during our meeting. I was quite inexperienced that time (later i found out that just because a girl doesn’t show IOI (ie talking) from surface doesn’t mean she isn’t DTF, as long as she came out for the date)
later that night i fucked her and she asked me why i treat her so bad (classic push-pull technique lol)
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Say “man you’re so boring”, get her on the defensive, out of iphag autopilot and engaged again to you. She’ll protest and deny it but start escalating quickly while her cunt is hot ( due to your neg) grab her hand and murmur “when things can get… (Purr) so exciting.” Aka James Bond game. If you don’t have the fundamentals it won’t work.
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Me: “Hey, can I borrow your phone? I need to make a quick call. It’ll only take a second.”
Her: Gives me a weird look. “Um, okay…”
Me: Takes the phone, and immediately sits it on the opposite side of the table from her, out of her reach. I fold my hands in front of me on the table, lean forward in my chair towards her, make eye contact, and give her and expectant look.
Her: Laughs. “What are you doing? Give me back my phone!”
Me: “Nope. Sam, I promise you that nothing important is going to happen in the thirty or forty minutes it takes us to have dinner. People ate dinner for thousands of years without phones, and they got along just fine. It’ll still be there when we’re done. I promise. Now talk to me. Tell me something interesting.”
She didn’t have anything interesting to say, but she forgot about the phone and started talking, and we had a nice dinner. Worked pretty good. And she
kept the texting around me to a minimum after that.
P.S. This exchange was the second time a girl tried that shit on me. The first time, I had no idea what to do, and just sat there like a simp.
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Order 10 boxes of donuts and 10 coffees and tell the cashier that the bint on the phone over there is paying as soon as she finishes emailing.
Walk the fuck out.
wait 5 min and sent bint a text … ” get off the phone you retard”
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You reach across the table, take her phone away, and tell her she can have it back later. I’ve actually done this on a first date before, and needless to say it led to twinkly eyes and a second date.
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The video looks pretty grim. Phone Zombie(PZ) is being totally disrespectful. My natural inclination would be to pick up and walk out and preserve my dignity. However, if I were going to try and salvage the situation in some way I would….
Without saying a word I would pick up my phone and text her. Something along the lines of…..
“You’ve got dandruff.”
“The Girl in the red sweater has great boobs.”
“Do you want to go top or bottom?”
…..and see where it goes from there.
If I really wanted to screw around with her head I would txt the following.
“Hey (Insert whatever female name here), you and the guys were soooooo right. PZ is soooo boring. I want to have some fun tonight. Hook up?”
…..and send it to HER.
Keep texting other people straight afterwards. Maintain frame and wait for the explosion. If she starts calling you out, tell her that she is boring and she’s wrecked the evening. Tell her that your sorry that you gave her the chance but she blew it.
I reckon if the situation is that bad you go nuclear and leave with your dignity intact.
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What you have here is an upper middle class good looking guy wasting his night on a trashy (non-white?) skank and he’s too polite to just walk out, or he does not know his potential smv. Reminds me of me circa 1990; it happens in hs. After he gets divorced from his more preppy-Prom Queen wife (cough, cough) he will treat gum-chewing, died-haired second tier girls with proper disdain – as an after thought, leading to sex if he wants it (by then he won’t). As for the phone, if a girl is into you she will drop it the moment you mention it.
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Answer for photo above.
“You checking out porn hub?”
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Stand up, ask her “can you hear me now?” Walk further away and repeat “can you hear me now?” Then laugh and walk out the door. This one’s not even worth the 3 day old cupcake behind the glass.
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Command her. In a factual voice tell her to put away the phone or you will leave. If she complies resume your conversation like a serious man with balls between his legs. Otherwise make good on your threat and walk out like a pro.
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I don’t do the threat part- “or I will leave.”. I’d like to get to a mental point of origin where I can do a naturally playful response.
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Reach across the table, tug a little bit on her hair that is dangling down to get her attention. Pause for a moment. Look her dead in the eyes and say “you’d look cuter texting on my couch at home, let’s go”
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actually you can just stare at her. She would notice at some point and hide the phone. Then you smile or nod and continue the conversation.
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Get up and walk out. Then go fuck her sister.
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Nonchalantly grab the phone, power it off, place it face down on the table in front of her. Behold mild smirk. She stares wide eyed, mouth agape with awe.
The open open mouth is a sign of things to cum.
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I had a date like this ooooh… 3 years ago with a younger girl my buddy set me up with. I was hung over as shit n goin to IHOP to meet some music buddies there anyway. So after I tapped on her phone and she didnt put it away I told the server it was her birthday and her friends ditched her and got the staff to walk up and sing happy birthday with a sparkler in some cake as i sat there laughin finishin my coffee. I didnt fuck her til the next time we hung out but the shell shock on her face from that was still fuckin priceless
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Situational because it has to be a place where you can even pull this, but this is a very good play otherwise. Anything to snap her back into meatspace. I’d still stick her for the bill though if she didn’t -immediately- put the fucking phone down after you did this.
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actually you can just stare at her. She would notice and put the phone away. Then smile and continue the conversation.
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The ability to correct the behavior is proportional to the frame you can hold.
Butt hurt: order everything on the menu and leave for her to pay. She’ll look down on you failing the shit test.
Ghost: walkout and say nothing. More neutral but won’t be able to generate tingles.
Tease: variations on taking the phone away and playfully negging her. Thus combines physical and verbal. The taking of the phone is an alpha male entitled response but the verbal play has to be THOT appropriate. The more she’s acting like a brat the more kid sister is your response. The more she’s acting like a b1tch, the meaner and more ZFG is your response.
Nuclear: grab phone and point at your own groin and yell: “does this have a wide angle lens?” Audience laughs and social proof is gained. She’ll blush and look at your groin. Seed planted in her mind.
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Give up on same-day sex to make a point. “Accidentally” text her (guise of texting another lover) “Yeah, I’m just wrapping things up here..be over in 10 minutes.” Then stand up abruptly and tell your girl that you have something you need to take care of and you have to run. Then leave. Then go to your favorite sports pub and enjoy a nice burger and a game…have a few drinks, chat with ladies if option is there…If you live with the gf, make sure shirt is halfway untucked or something when you walk in. Act tired, go right to bed.
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Amused mastery yes, alternatively: I mirror her actions and pull out my own phone, completely unbothered. Kind of friendzone her. Like your own attraction to her as a female is fading as the polarity is going to zero, which she may sense is a result of her shittest gone awry. Dread. (she looks a little try hard to me)
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1. Order some food.
2. Cut a morsel and put it on a fork.
3. Wave it near her mouth.
4. Bait her with it – she will respond or lose the food.
5. Place the morsel into your own mouth. She may be dismayed for a while.
6. Smirk and say ‘Don’t worry, there’s plenty left for you… but get it before I finish it!’ Implication is that she has to put her phone down.
7. Now the ice has broken, start engaging her. A nice place to start would be on the common issues with smartphones – try to guide the conversation to her behaviour, but don’t be too much of an asshole about it.
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Excuse yourself to the bathroom, and never came back. If she questions you later, say you did come back and said goodbye.
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Get up and leave.
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Take out your own phone start doing the same, then when she starts talking say “just one sec”.
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I would not utter one word of my disgust to this phone sloot. Stand up, put ya shoulders back, walk out. Ignore her for at least 3 days. Then an angry fuck and dump. At my place. No dates for her.
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1. You’ve already failed at this point. If you were attractive and creating tingles, she probably wouldn’t be hiding behind her phone. Women don’t lead. They follow. You’re not leading here, so she’s letting whatever happens on her phone take the lead in the vacuum you’ve left.
2. If you’ve ended up in this situation that you created for yourself, accept responsibility and change it. Drop a bomb to re-introduce her to your frame and to reorient the date. Either intense jerkboy teasing or excusing yourself to the bathroom then walking out and texting her an invite to your place on the way home.
3. Afterwards, assess how you failed in the lead up to this situation and figure out how to not fuck up so badly next time.
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Pwab is right. If she’s doing this, same day sex is probably out of the question, because she is already so INDIFFERENT to you. Might as well make it interesting while you pull the “eject” handle.
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It’s only a shit test. It can be easily mastered.
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Maybe. But if he had the right frame and she was actually attracted to him, she wouldn’t have the need to shit test him like this in the first place. She would be trying to impress him. That’s when you know you have it right.
Shit tests are inevitable, because frame is never perfect. They are like heat seeking missles for perceived potential flaws, which is why I suggested a reassessment afterwards. If this is a shit test rather than a narcissistic bitch, he brought it on by his own weakness. 100% responsibility.
If his frame was right and he had a deep sense of confidence, if the relationship was based on her living up to his standards, if she wanted to make sure she had his attention, you’d read it all over her body language. She’s fucking with him because he has shown that he is less interesting than her phone and he deserves to be fucked with. He needs to improve himself to the point that she forgets her phone exists when she’s across the table from such a high value man.
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>Assuming he drove
Get up and leave.
When she calls you, dont answer.
When she texts you about where you’ve gone, text back “Tits or gtfo”
Bonus points for getting her to send tit pics as she sits in public.
Ghost after receiving pics.
Profit.
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If you’ve got one on your phone (or can download one ASAP), quickly send her a dick pic via text message. (Not your own dick, someone else’s, of course.) Text in the message should be, “Have I got your attention now?”
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Take away the phone and put it in your pocket and say we can’t converse this way. If she objects tell her she is rude and uncultured. Then read aloud what she was looking at or texting as proof of her lack of culture. This also gives you fast insight into how stupid or conniving she really is. Make her chase you around to get her phone back and keep it the rest of the evening and only return it in exchange for your ransom demands.
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Take out your phone, start a snapchat video if you’re on it, or a regular video, doesn’t matter as long as she thinks she’s being seen in public.
Start narrating something like “Hey girls, checking in. Date is going wonderful, she’s on her phone texting Billy-willy making sure he’s safe in bed and misses her. She’s very nice to talk to, she doens’t shut up at all. Check you guys in 15min, let’s get the party started”.
Smile and say, “hey it was so fun talking to you I gotta go”.
Walk out. Let her pay.
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Leave
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That particular girl isn’t worth the effort, get up and leave. If it is a problem with a girl who is worth the effort, call another girl you know right in front of her. Make plans with someone else right then and there and start jingling your keys while you talk, like you are rearing to go when you get off the phone. She could wind up pulling the “I would have looked away from my phone if you were saying something interesting” line but this will only happen if you try to justify your phone-convo by saying it was a response to her actions (not the same as playing the ‘tit-for-tat’ game but it can easily turn into that if you have an iota of butthert). Chances are that she will be more willing to talk and if she isn’t, really, go and see someone else.
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Text her and say something along the lines of “are you always this boring on dates?”
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If not leaving, which is what any guy should do, I would just keep it simple, smile slyly without any anger, but rather amusement while I state the following:
“You are not very social are you”
Followed up by something on the lines of:
“Do you have some kind of social anxiety, that must be very weird for you”
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Leave the girl. Take the cannoli.
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Ha I’ve been on this date.
I got up, walked to my car, and left.
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Agree and amplify.. any direct Acknowledgement is a sign of butt hurt lowering your value.
Make a pretend phone out of your right hand. Put it to your head. Then begin an animated conversation first silently then get louder all the while ignoring her.
Throw in some “no way!” s and more exaggerated excitement.
When she looks up at you and puts down her phone— and she will. Look up at her, do a “give me a minute” sign with your other hand and say “I gotta take this hang on…”
Continue your mock conversation while she watches or tries to interrupt. Say: “don’t interrupt”.
When you’re ready to wrap up say “bye” and look up as if nothing happened and say “those coffees here yet?”
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I’d play on my phone XD
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“Hey sis, when is mom picking us up.”
Doesn’t look like a date.
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Think about what you d like to do, and do it. Even taking a shit or cleaning your toilets rank before her.
A man can’t allow himself to lose his time and respect for that. Example? Gym, church, reading, studying, theatre, playing music, etc. I don’t like this notion of “hunting women”. They all give clear signals when they want a man, no need to lose time trying to get their attention.
It doesn’t matter what you do, as long as it is what you want.
From my gf: “take the phone, throw it in the fountain, leave and just ignore her ; why would you want such a person in your life?!”
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