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Mate Guarding Degrees Of Alphaness

February 27, 2018 by CH

Mate guarding tactics, in descending order of alphaness:

  • She mate guards you
  • You flash a frown and she promptly self-corrects
  • You mindfuck her (see: Dread Game)
  • You let most insults slide, but explode once in a while to keep her on edge and in line
  • You kick the other guy’s ass
  • You lavish excessive PDA on her whenever another man is talking to her (or just in the general vicinity of her)
  • You buy her stuff
  • You beg her to love you
  • You marry her*
  • You accept her terms of polyamory
  • You mate guard yourself (the undescended testicles soyboy option)

*”Marriage is beta?”, sneers the tradcon. No. Marriage is beta when it’s relied on by a man as a solution to prevent a woman from straying (it never works). If you think the legalistic imprimatur of marriage will finally convince that thot to take her mind off other men and love you unto the end of time, you’ll be disappointed. You’re an even bigger tool if you believe a huge rock and expensive wedding guarantees a woman’s fidelity. (Just the opposite — if you have to spend a lot to convince a woman to accept your monogamous submission, she’s more likely to divorce you.)

As I’ve argued in these pages, and as ¡SCIENCE! has confirmed, frequent mate guarding, as it is typically practiced by Western men, is beta.

Established alpha males don’t typically mate guard — at least not obviously — because they don’t fear their women cheating on them or falling under the spell of other men, and, less benignly, they redirect some of their relationship energy that would normally be spent on mate guarding toward hooking up with side lovers.

Beta males, whether consciously or not, sense more keenly the sexual interloper threat posed by other men and the wandering eyes of their own women. This heightened threat detection system is likely an evolved instinct that serves the useful purpose of keeping the lover of a beta male faithful, (or constrained in her ability to cheat).

Here’s where it gets interesting for philosophers and warriors of Game alike: While mate guarding may offer some temporary or discrete relationship security, multiple acts of mate guarding will paradoxically increase longer term relationship fragility. The mechanism by which this LTR instability is generated is a status feedback loop; if a man mate guards, his woman will subconsciously evaluate his romantic worth downward because (her sensitive idware will reason) only a beta male would feel the need to mate guard. An alpha male would not; his aloofness would be perceived as proof of his impenetrable high status.

Research has even found a positive association between a man’s jizz quality and his indifference to mate guarding.

In another blow against mate guarding as a viable minx management tool, research has shown that “aloof and indifferent” men who create feelings of uncertainty in women are more attractive than clingy men:

When women think of assholes they don’t want to date, they’re thinking of caring assholes. The kind of men who are clingy, mate guarding buffoons. The assholes who are loved by women are the men whose jerkitude is implied through emotional distance, cocksureness, outcome independence, and inscrutability.

The Alpha Apex for a man is reached when a woman is so smitten with him that the thought of cheating never even crosses her mind and in fact she spends most of her idle cognition devising ploys to keep other women away from him (and his attention focused solely on her *daily bjs wink wink*).

The Nancyboy Nadir for a male-thing is hit when his woman is given free rein to indulge her slutty cheating heart while he puts limits on his own behavior, fearful of her wrath and rejection should he hold her to the same faithfulness standards he holds himself.

Mate guarding is a behavior associated with men who fall in-between those two extreme states of manhood. It isn’t always self-defeating, but it quickly can be if it becomes the primary means to manage a wanton woman. As a general rule:

Alpha men never or rarely mate guard (they don’t have to because their women love them too much to risk losing them, but when they do mate guard, obedience is immediate and unquestioned).

Beta males sometimes or frequently mate guard (and when they do, their women are often driven further away by the weak display of desperate possessiveness, but can sometimes be convinced to stay in the relationship with promises of trinkets and marriage).

Omega dregs never or rarely mate guard (it’s futile for them as they are in no position to make demands, and the rare times they do mate guard it usually emerges in a clumsy spectacle of inchoate rage that further lowers their already low SMV).

Soyboys (psychologically lower than omegas) actually reverse mate guard — they mate liberate, preferring to avoid any conflict that might threaten their relationships (or beta orbiter status) via the warped solution of permitting total sexual freedom for their women while restraining their own sexuality.

Mate guarding is largely the province of sub-alpha men, because men lower on the sexual market hierarchy have to deal with 1. more threats from male competitors and 2. an urge to unfaithfulness from their women. As a preventative against gf or wife cheating or abandonment, these men show signs of loyalty (generously defined) or possessiveness (more realistically defined) as enticement to their women to stick with them. Since women love dem beta bux, these displays of commitment can be persuasive on those women peering at the Wall cresting over the horizon and eager to settle down in post-cock carousel expedience.

Mate guarding can take numerous forms, one of which is the elaborate proposal. If you notice an increase in certain mate guarding behaviors, you are seeing an increase in beta males (as perceived by women) who feel the need to hammer home the message that they’ll give everything plus their dignity to assure a woman’s fidelity.

The corollary to the mate guarding = alpha LARPing observation is that men can raise their perceived SMV by avoiding conspicuous displays of mate guarding when a woman is likely to expect them. Undermining her expectation of a jealous reaction will create cogdis that encourages subtle but powerful micro-reassessments of her beta boyfriend/hubby, that over the long run raise his value relative to her value.

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This topic re-arrested me because a study just released seems, at least on the surface, to contradict CH teachings and previous studies examining the relation between mate guarding and men’s attractiveness to women.

Men with higher testosterone levels report being more protective of their romantic relationships

Whoa, hold the phone. Alpha males tend to be higher T, and higher T is associated with more mate guarding. What gives? Delving into the study’s details reveals that there is no contradiction.

“…very little research has examined whether testosterone relates to other forms of mating-relevant competition, such as effort aimed at retaining a mating partner. This includes benefit provisioning (e.g., doing nice things for your partner to highlight your commitment to her such as buying gifts, proposing marriage) and cost inflicting (e.g., threatening other men to stay away) acts meant to hold on to exclusive access to one’s mate.” […]

The researchers collected saliva samples from 108 male undergraduates to measure their testosterone levels and had them complete surveys on mate retention and intrasexual competition. They found there was an indirect relationship between testosterone and mate retention behaviors.

“Our results suggested that there is a modest relationship between testosterone and mate-retention, but that this relationship is not direct in nature. Rather, testosterone predicts holding a more competitive attitude toward members of the same sex (intrasexual competition), and it is this characteristic of intrasexual competitiveness that in turn predicts mate retention,” Arnocky told PsyPost.

“Moreover, this relationship seems to be strongest for cost inflicting, rather than benefit provisioning, acts of mate retention.”

Examples of cost-inflicting mate retention behavior include things such as limiting a partner’s social life by monopolizing her time and insulting her to make her feel undeserving of the current relationship.

Teasing and negs are a valuable component of a healthy, committed, and uncucked relationship!

I was right in my suspicions about what this study was really saying. Higher testosterone was associated with “cost-inflicting” mate retention behaviors, i.e., threats against interloper men or psy ops against girlfriends. Psy ops on girls and maneuvering for dominance over other men are alpha male pastimes. Showering women with reassuring PDA, being a shoulder to cry on, expressing devotion, and “benefit provisioning” as mate retention strategies are the lower T beta male options, and in the Darwinian calculus these beta strategies aren’t nearly as effective as the “cost-inflicting” alpha strategies for keeping women in love and reproductively loyal.

“Our study was correlational in its design, and so one cannot make any causal assumptions about whether testosterone influences levels of intrasexual competitiveness or mate retention,” Arnocky noted.

Correlation does not equal penetration.

Ted Colt adds,

if you want to prevent a woman from straying, impregnate her, limit her employment prospects, & surround her with family

it worked for thousands of years

Realtalk. But suffrage happened, and now we live in Vagina World. For modren times (ie the age of careerist shrikes and mass contraception), the best prophylactic against a woman cheating on you is

  1. choose wisely and
  2. have her fall in love with you

A love of sufficient infatuation is indistinguishable from worship. And no woman will cheat on her god.

***

Women mate guard too. They use sex as their preferred means of mate control.

Chapter 5, “Green-Eyed Desire: From Guarding a Mate to Trading Up,” deals with other economic constraints relating to the human mating market. Women appear to use sex to help guard male mates by keeping them satisfied, reminding men what they stand to lose should they defect—or as many women in the study put it, “keep[ing] his mind off other women.”

More sex from women? Sounds great! To gain access to that parallel pooniverse, you have to keep women in a steady state of uncertainty and anxiety.

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  1. on February 27, 2018 at 5:06 pm Stake From Jake Jarm

    I long ago had a friend to whom I told the rule of threes, one compliment to her for every three she gives you. He responded, but she doesn’t compliment me. At first I thought the response I gave “well, there you go” was enough. roll, cut bait, increase your SMV.

    But is the proper response negging or criticizing then? She doesn’t compliment you, then you cannot start complimenting at all, only make pointed observations.

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    • on February 27, 2018 at 6:01 pm Diversity Is Good

      Maybe too late for negging. Either Dread or Next.

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      • on February 28, 2018 at 1:11 pm trav777

        I periodically told my gf she was fat. Because well, she was. She ate too much. She did however stick with me after I got arrested after a bad date with another girl, so there’s that in her favor. And I was due to report to jail one time and I decided to appeal at the last minute and she came up $500 for bond money. These acts of devotion will buy you like 6 months before the auschwitz diet gets imposed on you.

        Mate guarding…I mean, if I have to say something to a girl about her excessive attention to some other dude, it will be said with action. I just get up and leave. If she talks too much about some other dude, then I say shit i gotta go to the bathroom and I just walk out and she’ll figure it out eventually.

        My experience, FWIW, is that chicks who require mate guarding are attention whores who are trying to cause a scene. Got no time for that shit. One chick long ago…in a convo with some dudes I was like dude you can have her, you want her? Please, take her off my hands this is the rudest most obnoxious girl I’ve ever met. Ended up throwing her out the next morning.

        Girls have to know that you will leave their shit if they don’t comply. A bitch who don’t care ain’t NEVER gonna care no how, so what’s the difference?

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    • on February 27, 2018 at 6:02 pm Xtrabeing starofmagic.wordpress.com

      Not all women are naturally complimenters. In addition, some chicks are going to be hesitant not because you are poor quality, but because you are HIGH, particularly in looks.

      Why? They want to control your ego level. If you think you’re hot, you’re more likely to stray — and they know that. No woman has EVER consistently told xxMe xxI’m hot, over and over, although they will occasionally — accidentally — drop how much they appreciate xxmy looks. But in X’s context, it’s always a mistake, unintentional. They know — without being able to sublimate the information — that if they confirm one’s superiority over them, in looks, in intelligence, in drive or in anything else that is a metric of enhancement, that they are put on the defensive, and this thwarts their Only Desire: to Capture you and Make you their Relationship Slave for All Time. ™

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      • on February 27, 2018 at 6:04 pm Xtrabeing starofmagic.wordpress.com

        Only fools get married. xxIf you want a kid (a boy, of course), fuck with the beetch’s mind until she breaks. There are ways to do this, and xxI plan on doing this in xxmy personal life very soon.

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 6:42 am Greg Eliot

      As an experiment, you can try some, for lack of a better term, Ali “I am the greatest game… make some offhand braggadocio remark about yourself or something you can do or did… with the usual smirk of amused mastery.

      If she smiles with a nice glow in her yes, or better yet, even joins in in “pumping you up”, then you know she’s on your side, even if she’s not a natural compliment starter.

      If she just makes a snide remark or rolls her eyes in a snarky manner, then next her, tout de suite.

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      • on February 28, 2018 at 6:47 am Greg Eliot

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 7:04 am plumpjack

      the 3:1 rule should not be taken literally. women don’t actually need compliments. they need stimulation, in the form of figuring out how to please a man who is like a god in her world.

      a few other thoughts:
      1. aside from sex and raising your children, and the maximum 1-2 hours a week of childlike conversation that a healthy man requires, women are generally a burden. your PRESENCE is the compliment.
      2. verbal compliments don’t register with attractive women, unless you RARELY (if ever) give them. so don’t bother, unless she truly needs encouragement.
      3. a compliment should NEVER be about her looks. maybe she did a good job folding your laundry. that deserves a compliment, but be sure to finish it by pointing out that you prefer your underwear folded slightly differently. (unless she’s having a rough day. then skip the compliment and just give her a hug, since that’s what she really needs/wants at that moment.)

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      • on February 28, 2018 at 1:13 pm trav777

        compliments DO register with attractive women, and they register better than they do with <9s. But only if they love you and you look them in the eyes. You can stop time for them.

        They know they're beautiful; hearing it from you in that frozen moment is what matters.

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      • on February 28, 2018 at 1:32 pm Greg Eliot

        Millennial compliments:

        “Your sister’s cooze is looser.”

        “Your tats haven’t faded as badly as some I’ve seen.”

        ‘That new brand of kitty litter really DOES have less odor!”

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 7:14 am plumpjack

      another rule of three is: she’s not hooked until she’s tried to dump you three times, and couldn’t.

      if a woman threatens to leave because she not getting her way with you (a shit test), the proper response is agree and amplify. “yep. I totally understand. you ABSOLUTELY deserve a guy who treats you better. good luck.”

      three times and she’s hooked.

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      • on February 28, 2018 at 8:58 am mendo

        +1 on both comments, pj. Good stuff.

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      • on February 28, 2018 at 12:51 pm vfm#7634

        Hmm… (light bulb goes off)

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      • on February 28, 2018 at 1:10 pm Cracker

        yep

        and after you tell her she deserves better, she should come back saying that she doesn’t want anyone else and the complaining about you ends.

        but if her only response to that is more bitching and telling you what you need to do so she’ll want to stay and be faithful, she’s probably not worth keeping around.

        either the love is lost for good. or it was never there to begin with and she coupled up with you not because she loved who you are but because she thought she could change you and you’re not going along with the plan.

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  2. on February 27, 2018 at 5:19 pm Mate Guarding Degrees Of Alphaness | @the_arv

    […] Mate Guarding Degrees Of Alphaness […]

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  3. on February 27, 2018 at 5:25 pm Titus

    If I propose to my girlfriend, I’m wondering if I should do so with a ring pop.

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    • on February 27, 2018 at 5:40 pm Augustus Tilton

      That’s a great idea.

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    • on February 27, 2018 at 11:33 pm JironGhrad

      Have her propose to you… worked for me.

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  4. on February 27, 2018 at 5:27 pm Ryu

    Where do you think the white race is, regarding how it “mate-guards” white women?

    As I see it, white men do very little, because they aren’t permitted to do more legally. The police are there to protect the 1%, minos and women from the wrath of white men.

    This makes us look very beta. White women think white men are weak….and they are right.

    Women crave alpha and this includes white women. They see white men won’t resist invasion, so they spread’em for the coloreds.

    [CH: the jealousy belt, running along the subtropical zones that include north africa the middle east southern europe and central asia, has the most/worst mate guarding because the men are sexually aggressive and polygyny is common enough to encourage mate poaching. whites evolved in a different ecology, in which mate guarding wasn’t as necessary because monogamy was a more natural fit. but america isn’t in that ecology. our sexual market is changing from our euro roots due to intense selective pressures created by diversity and liberalism.]

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    • on February 27, 2018 at 5:46 pm gunslingergregi

      yea ex prob wants you and him’sss plural fight rofl

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 5:59 am Les Saunders, Protestant

      The headscarf and more extreme versions of female coverings, as well as the prohibitions on womyn leaving the home unaccompanied are reflections of the mate-guarding prevalent, and necessary, in the near east.

      The elders instituted female modesty rules on pain of an affront to G-d, but it was really about locking down your wifé.

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 6:35 am Greg Eliot

      Women crave alpha and this includes white women. They see white men won’t resist invasion, so they spread’em for the coloreds.

      Try not to be so luridly joyous describing the current malaise.

      And no, it’s not happening to the extent (((hollyvood))) and some of youze yeggs ’round chere would have us believe.

      That said, even a few percentage points is too much, but my point stands.

      Don’t let US gleefully regale the clay feet on the our own giant, alt-R ally.

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 4:19 pm trav777

      niggers were historically seen as a rape threat as well as a impregnate and leave threat.

      It’s not the color of their skin that makes nobody want to have them around…THAT type of mate guarding is SUPPOSED to be done by a father, not a husband.

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  5. on February 27, 2018 at 5:28 pm Libertardian

    ‘You’re an even bigger tool if you believe a huge rock and expensive wedding guarantees a woman’s fidelity.’

    As Stalin might have put it, gratitude is a dog’s disease, never a hamster’s.

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  6. on February 27, 2018 at 5:39 pm gunslingergregi

    must say at my most alpha I didn’t worry at all about some dude taking my chick or some shit
    I only responded if they disrespected my bitch and they told me
    and yea my time pretty much all ended up spent on all the list of numbers I had and seeing different ones

    which really makes it so woman can do whatever they want really who to know lol

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  7. on February 27, 2018 at 5:42 pm Augustus Tilton

    Mate guarding men come across as pathetic, no surprise women hate them.

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    • on February 27, 2018 at 5:44 pm gunslingergregi

      well they don’t want to be disrespected while you with em
      like in club some dude grabs her ass or some shit got to do something

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      • on February 28, 2018 at 4:20 pm trav777

        that’s not the same…u have to hit that dude promptly

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  8. on February 27, 2018 at 5:42 pm gunslingergregi

    right now ex dipped out
    think she gonna have polymory
    she is unmateguardable she a ho what ya do with that
    according to this blog ya call her in a week or some shit and then take and be glad for leftovers I told her I don’t want her leftovers

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    • on February 27, 2018 at 5:43 pm gunslingergregi

      she keeps calling texting fucking with me

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  9. on February 27, 2018 at 5:46 pm Diversity Is Good

    The researchers collected saliva samples from 108 male undergraduates to measure their testosterone levels and had them complete surveys on mate retention and intrasexual competition.

    108 isn’t many. What percentage were hipster soyboys? Would Chad even bother with this?
    Lolllz at “complete surveys”, we supposed to watch what they said?

    Lollzzzllz at researchers sucking on governent ringpops.

    [CH: it is kind of a shit WEIRDO study. we’ll see if it replicates (most don’t)]

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  10. on February 27, 2018 at 5:51 pm gunslingergregi

    I guess like ex said about when I knocked the dude out his shoes for disrespecting ex
    she said I really did it cause he was disrespecting me
    not about her

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 5:29 am Sentient

      This. Gregi for the win as usual.

      The only reason to “mate gaurd” is disrespect of you… i.e. don’t fuck with my property.

      Use only for aggressive douchebags.

      Normal doods approaching can be better handled by you just back turning and joking/gaming the girls near you. Ziiiiip!!! She we be the one sidling up to you.

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  11. on February 27, 2018 at 5:54 pm cortesar

    a lot have I seen but something this ugly I did not see before
    jesus f*ucking christ this is beyond degenerate

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    • on February 27, 2018 at 6:17 pm Stake From Jake Jarm

      on twitter, the left is under the impression that the armed forces will be all in on door-to-door kill missions against gun owners. I mean, I know a lot of Broward Cowards will be happy to shoot gun owners but not all of them.

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      • on February 27, 2018 at 9:46 pm Oleaginous Outrager

        It’s one of the leftoids’ most perplexing delusions: that the military and paramilitary forces of the US (whom lefties quite often openly loathe and denigrate) are somehow on their side and will happily act out their sad power fantasies for them in real life.

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      • on February 28, 2018 at 2:24 am skorzecin150

        I can tell you now even the “diversity hires” in the military know what side their bread is buttered on. I don’t know about the enlisted (or those in green), but officers who are mino’s are orders of magnitude above your average colored or beaner, smart enough to game the system and they know without said system (ie whitey) they’d be cleaning latrines, as even your well above average mino is going to find competing with even an average white to be a losing proposition.

        Same goes with the white women, especially in operational areas.

        So no, the majority of the military isn’t going to be on the leftist side in any hot “civil war”. Most, actually, will just sit it out. National Guard is where you’re likely to see active participation, being locals and all.

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      • on February 28, 2018 at 2:32 am SteveRogers42

        Minos congregate in support services. Deplorables are over-represented in combat arms. Aviators and SpecOps look like Asgard.

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      • on February 28, 2018 at 6:30 am Greg Eliot

        Let’s not kid ourselves… as long as the checks are still cashing and there’s a can o’ beer in fridge, and the fridge is still running, LEOs, Military, and anyone else employed by the state will shoot us, our wives, and our children door-to-door and go home and sleep like a baby.

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      • on February 28, 2018 at 4:22 pm trav777

        they will; the military is in it to kill. That’s why tf they signed up.

        Look at the history of slaughter by leftist revolutions since France.

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  12. on February 27, 2018 at 5:57 pm Anonymous

    Storytime:

    Not too long ago I briefly dated a hard 9 model. She admitted after our first night that she’s an escort (and a madam, and a stripper) and modeling was just a front. Me being alpha as fuck (at least that’s how most people see me) I pretended to be completely free of judgment or jealousy, which is why she shared so much. I explicitly told her I don’t care if she fucks these old millionaires as long as she uses a condom (to be honest I really didn’t care). I even told her to find me a sugar momma too, to which she responded enthusiastically. She also attempted to set up 2 threesomes with her escort friends for us but I was busy both nights. Mind you her pleasant personality and apparent worship of me was what made me wanna stick around for a while. No exclusivity of course.

    A few days after our last date I woke up with a rash on my Johnson. I know for a fact it was from her. She begged to see me again, sending screenshots of std tests to prove to me that it couldn’t be her, blowing me up for about a month with promises of love and devotion, until she realized I’m not coming back and gave up.

    Having read the above list I realize what I really did was accept her polyamory. There’s no other way to look at it. I thought I was being the ultimate alpha for bedding a bitch that bad (for free, and even with her buying me shit). In return I got burned (literally).

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    • on February 27, 2018 at 7:35 pm Flip

      So what was the rash?

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    • on February 27, 2018 at 7:44 pm bigjohn33

      Somehow I doubt that is a representative example of men who accept women’s terms of polyamory.

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    • on February 27, 2018 at 8:25 pm Doktor Jeep

      It’s even worse when the same rash is also around your mouth.
      Just saying.

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 6:27 am Greg Eliot

      The lab just called…

      … your brain is ready.

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  13. on February 27, 2018 at 5:58 pm Anonymous

    Bitch, you kiss MY ass…

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  14. on February 27, 2018 at 6:32 pm mendo

    I gotta re-read this, but this was an important post.

    Kudos

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  15. on February 27, 2018 at 6:41 pm TGP

    You have been dropping deep wisdom lately. Your words save lives. Love you Brother.

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  16. on February 27, 2018 at 7:03 pm Jay Fink

    In 1985 I worked with a woman who liked me but I was not interested. She got in a relationship with another guy and he mate guarded to the extreme. He wouldn’t let her talk to me or look at me. I have long lost contact with her but whenever I see mate guarding discussed here I think of that guy from 1985 who seemed pathetic to me.

    Just yesterday I got a FB friend request from this woman. It was the first contact I had with her in all this time. To my shock she married the mate guarder in 1986 and they are still married to this day. That’s one of the longest most successful marriages I have heard about in a long time. So I guess mate guarding worked for him. I wonder if he still does it now that she is post wall?

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  17. on February 27, 2018 at 7:27 pm Prof. Woland

    My wife cooks for me, every night. And she is a great cook. I eat like a king. The only downside is that I need to lose some weight.

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 6:24 am Greg Eliot

      My wife occasionally asks that I do chores with her…

      … yesterday I mopped the floor with her.

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      • on February 28, 2018 at 9:04 am mendo

        Supremely droll!

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 10:42 am gunslingergregi

      congrats!!!!

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  18. on February 27, 2018 at 7:30 pm bigjohn33

    Where does beating one’s partner fall in the male mate guarding alpha-beta spectrum?

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  19. on February 27, 2018 at 7:32 pm Tipsy

    In Corinthians I 7:1-5 Saint Paul exhorts married couples about their marriage obligation (a duty to be open to sex). This, it is said, is for the good of the couple, the family, and society as it helps strengthen the bond of marriage and quiets concupiscence.

    The lessons of scripture, apparently, have less impact on Western women than the lessons of feminism, which teaches that wives owe their husbands nothing.

    Sic transit gloria occidentis.

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  20. on February 27, 2018 at 7:41 pm Ralph Stanley

    This is such a tough issue, even after marriage. I have had to mate guard on a few occasions and it was always a difficult call. Ignore or call out? Adult parties can be weird. There is always a low level of harmless flirting going on but every man has his comfort level.

    If you bring it up (later, obviously, not on-site), you lose. But if you let it slide completely you also lose (or go bananas). My usual strategy was to do flirting of my own, blow it off etc. But I have, on a few occasions, confronted my lady afterwards.

    Why does it happen? I guess you’re being out-alpha-ed. It’s a shitty feeling but my impression is that it still happens to most guys. Even the confident gym rat playboy has to take shit from his woman. I have seen it time and time again.

    My only advice — thinking out loud here — is to be conscious of mate guarding as a huge turnoff and to avoid it at all costs (with the caveat that once in a blue moon, you’ll have to step in once in to make boundaries clear).

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  21. on February 27, 2018 at 9:49 pm Oleaginous Outrager

    “more attractive than clingy men”

    Who of either sex is turned on by clingy people? I realize back up from SCIENCE! is always nice, but this seems like shit from Dr. Obvious’ lab.

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 1:35 am Sajaro

      Clinginess in a female is neutral when it comes to her attractiveness; if she is hot enough, it can be actually cute. BUT it is always a turn-off for a woman. Always. Just as a strong, independent man is a huge turn -on for a woman, a strong, independent woman is a turn- OFF for a man.
      In fact, I am wondering if a woman wants to be successful with proper men (at least men who are way more alpha than beta) she should, in terms of outlook and behaviour, start behaving like a beta male (while maximizing her looks of course.)

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  22. on February 27, 2018 at 10:01 pm Mate Guarding Degrees Of Alphaness | Reaction Times

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  23. on February 28, 2018 at 4:06 am OriginalJ

    I tried to explore swinging with one gf. Her response; “But I just want to fuck you.” The downside of having your woman mate guard you may not matter to most, but it exists.

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 8:48 am oink

      grotesque

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 10:43 am gunslingergregi

      or when they have the power to make other woman not come around you

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  24. on February 28, 2018 at 12:50 pm Rant Casey-BR

    I have found a curious way of inducing mate guarding. A very counter-intuitive one.

    Feigned jealousy.

    When did lightheartedly, I realized it ticks something different in her mind. Suppose I tell her, *after* she’s been saying mellow stuff to me: “You know, I pay very close attention to you. I bet that everywhere there is someone wanting to steal you from me.” Best served with a slap in the butt.

    Every time I do this, the result is about the same: hot sex and a woman more inclined to cook.

    Said insincerely, it seems to induce her to wonder… if that’s just the opposite: that I have been receiving attention and welcoming eyes, *and*, I am projecting in her. Much like cheaters assume they’re being cheated.

    Why would I said that? Must be because *I* am getting attention outside. So I must be projecting that she is.

    Women are instinctively aware of when a man must be projecting. As long as she doesn’t think you’re saying that out of genuine fear, she jumps to the next best hypothesis – that you are assuming that what’s been happening to you (someone trying to take her place everywhere) is also happening to her.

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  25. on February 28, 2018 at 1:35 pm Sentient

    CH

    You left off the lowest rung on the ladder

    Murder all your classmmates.

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 2:47 pm gunslingergregi

      that would take some balls why they all have to be faked no one has the nuts to do it

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      • on February 28, 2018 at 4:24 pm trav777

        kids been shooting schools up for a while now, man, it’s not that big of a deal

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      • on February 28, 2018 at 4:26 pm gunslingergregi

        they said schools been getting shot up
        not really any evidense

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  26. on February 28, 2018 at 3:41 pm Sean Fielding

    Nice list. When I started taking CH seriously (as opposed to thinking myself above it because I red pilled on nogs before I red pilled on broads), I was guilty of buying the GF stuff to ‘prove my love.’

    Now I’m proud to report it’s Dread Game for her when she goes too far. That’s even led to considerable mate-guarding from her.

    Female jealousy is all bark, no bite and can be moderately encouraged. Male jealousy is always potentially dangerous. Even under our current gynocracy.

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 4:28 pm gunslingergregi

      Female jealousy is all bark, no bite and can be moderately encouraged”””””

      you must not know to many bitches

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 4:31 pm Cracker

      some jealousy from your woman is how it should be. if she’s not more jealous than you, you’ve got problems.

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  27. on February 28, 2018 at 4:44 pm CH disciple

    Have been a daily CH reader for 8+ years but never really commented before…

    I try to follow the 16 commandments as closely as possible, but some of these suggestions I really struggle to implement. The ones here regarding mate guarding fit that bill. Either that or I’m misapplying something.

    My girl is so insecure and I’ve pushed her to the limit so many times that I just can’t keep doing it because her constant fear and anxiety of losing me is so intense that if I don’t give her reassurances that I’m not going to leave her, she just breaks down.

    You’d think based on her extreme anxiety that it would cause her to be a better girlfriend, but lately, she wants sex without having to give me a blowjob nearly as frequently, and even has begun to complain about blowjobs despite my demands. Additionally, her willingness to please me has steadily dropped over the years. I suppose this may have something to do with the fact we live together now and I solely support her–but it’s not like she has anywhere else to go so cutting her off isn’t really an option without demanding she gets a job.

    How can I conflate instilling more dread in order to encourage better behavior without turning her into a raving lunatic who can’t function on a daily basis due to her intense fear of losing me?

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  28. on February 28, 2018 at 7:12 pm stg58animalmother

    My wife definitely mate guards me. It’s equal measures cute and slightly psychotic.

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    • on February 28, 2018 at 7:18 pm Cracker

      that’s the sweet spot right there. must be doing something right.

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      • on February 28, 2018 at 7:37 pm stg58animalmother

        Took a while but she’s finally trained up properly.

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  29. on March 1, 2018 at 9:28 am mikeraw

    I was at a party last night. 40 people total, 5 good looking girls including mine. I had a good time being aloof and talking to everyone cuz it was my turf but towards the end of the night she picked a fight saying that she wanted my arm around her like the other couples were doing and that she wants me to demonstrate affection in public.

    My girl is really hot but she’s 35, just a couple of years younger than me. What to do? I don’t usually negotiate with terrorists but this is strange…

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