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Power, Approach, And Inhibition: A Study Of Alpha Males And Beta Males

May 18, 2018 by CH

A very interesting paper examines power relations in humans, and in so doing illuminates classic dichotomies between the behaviors of alpha males and beta males. Link.

This article examines how power influences behavior. Elevated power is associated with increased rewards and freedom and thereby activates approach-related tendencies. Reduced power is associated with increased threat, punishment, and social constraint and thereby activates inhibition-related tendencies. The authors derive predictions from recent theorizing about approach and inhibition and review relevant evidence. Specifically, power is associated with (a) positive affect, (b) attention to rewards, (c) automatic information processing, and (d) disinhibited behavior. In contrast, reduced power is associated with (a) negative affect; (b) attention to threat, punishment, others’ interests, and those features of the self that are relevant to others’ goals; (c) controlled information processing; and (d) inhibited social behavior. The potential moderators and consequences of these power-related behavioral patterns are discussed.

If you want to get over Approach Anxiety, feel more powerful. (Likewise, by the transitive property of the behavior-cognition-emotion feedback loops, if you want to feel more powerful, start approaching more girls.) Easier said than done? This is one of those studies where most of the useful gems of knowledge are tucked deep in the paper and only alluded to in the abstract.

Power influences human behavior. When you have it, you act differently, in accordance with the goals of someone who expects deference, gratitude, and reward. When you don’t have it, the world is a frightening place. You act like a trembling field mouse waiting for a hawk to swoop from the air and carry you off.

First, a relevant quote:

The fundamental concept in social science is Power, in the same sense that Energy is the fundamental concept in physics . . . The laws of social dynamics are laws which can only be stated in terms of power. (Russell, 1938, p. 10)

All human interaction can be stripped down to battles for power, on macro and micro levels. Power in this usage means the ability to influence our social environment to our personal advantage. The study authors define power as…

…an individual’s relative capacity to modify others’ states by providing or withholding resources or administering punishments. This capacity is the product of the actual resources and punishments the individual can deliver to others.

Resources and punishments can be material (food, money, economic opportunity, physical harm, or job termination) and social (knowledge, affection, friendship, decision-making opportunities, verbal abuse, or ostracism). The value of resources or punishments reflects other individuals’ dependence on those resources.

The perceived freedom with which individuals can deliver resources and punishments to others also influences the individual’s level of power. Beliefs about the exercise of power figure prominently in cultural values and morals…as well as attitudes within personal relationships. Beliefs about the freedom to exercise power can come into conflict with the actual resources and punishments the individual can deliver to others—a tension that we elaborate on later.

Emphasis mine. Game largely resides in the domain of social resources and punishments, ie mindfucking.

If social status is power, what is status?

Our definition also distinguishes power from related constructs. Status is the outcome of an evaluation of attributes that produces differences in respect and prominence. Status in part determines the allocation of resources within groups and, by implication, each individual’s power. However, it is possible to have power without status (e.g., the corrupt politician) and status without relative power (e.g., a readily identified religious leader in line at the Department of Motor Vehicles). Authority is power that derives from institutionalized roles or arrangements, but power can exist in the absence of formal roles (e.g., within informal groups). Dominance is behavior that has the acquisition of power as its end, yet power can be attained without performing acts of dominance (e.g., leaders who attain their positions through their cooperative and fair-minded style). Thus status, authority, and dominance are all potential determinants of power as we define it.

In seduction, a man’s status, authority, and dominance are each alone highly arousing to women, but together they create the archetypal powerful alpha male which few women can resist. See: our President.

Let’s dig into the relevant meat of the paper that addresses, if obliquely, the power dynamics between alpha and beta males as pertains to pickup and approaching women.

Of the many objects of social attention, we will focus on three: rewards or punishments, other individuals, and the self. We propose that high-power individuals, who are disposed to approach, will attend to potential rewards rather than to threats and as a consequence will construe others through a lens of self-interest. In contrast, low-power individuals will be more sensitive to threats than rewards and will therefore construe themselves vis-a`-vis others’ interests.

Alphas don’t see women as a threat and expect good reactions (rewards) from approaching women, so they feel less inhibited. They are embodiments of male privilege, feeling entitled to rewards from women and seeing them as avenues to fulfill their self-interest. Naturally, women reward these entitled privileged men because women are attracted to confident men.

Betas see every interaction with women as a potential mine field of shame and humiliation and rejection, so they’re more cautious and fearful of approaching women. Betas are also overly empathic and concerned with women’s feelings; they are the opposite of entitled, always assessing their own actions for how they may impact others’ feelings. This is why PUAs say betas “live in their heads” which gets in the way of their romantic success.

A related prediction is that elevated power will increase the tendency to perceive rewards and opportunities in ambiguous acts and interactions (Hypothesis 6). One suggestive line of studies finds that men, who might be assumed to occupy positions of elevated power, perceive sexual interest in women’s ambiguous behavior.

Self-entitled men do better with women because they’re more likely to bust a move, perceiving sexual interest from women where there might not be any. This is an advantageous self-deception because 1. it motivates approaching women which increases his romantic opportunities and 2. it projects supreme self-confidence which is attractive to women.

A complementary prediction is that low-power individuals will perceive themselves as a means to the ends of high-power individuals, or as the instrument of others’ goals and desires. […]

We have posited that high-power individuals selectively attend to rewards and how others satisfy self-interests, whereas low-power individuals attend to punishment and threat and construe the self through a lens of others’ interests.

Alphas are a means to their own ends.
Betas are a means to others’ ends.

This has sexual market implications.

Betas need to be more selfish to succeed at attracting women.
Alphas can become too selfish and sabotage their relationships (platonic and romantic). Often, alphas could benefit from being more selfless.

The approach system modulates processes related to eating, offensive aggression, and sexual behavior. Power should therefore increase the performance of approach related behaviors in these and other domains. Power should prompt the performance of simple approach behaviors (Hypothesis 18), such as entering the social space of others and initiating physical contact. Indeed, high levels of touching behavior correlate with being male, being older, and having higher SES. Studies of adults and children indicate that high-status, powerful individuals are more likely to approach subordinates at interpersonal distances that indicate intimacy.

Game concept vindicated: kino escalation. Get physical sooner rather than later if you want to improve your meet-to-lay ratio with women.

…high-power individuals should be more likely to engage in aggressive acts (Hypothesis 24). Several research literatures lend support to this prediction. Across contexts (e.g., school playgrounds, hospital settings, and summer camps), high-status individuals are more likely to tease (rather than avoid the potentially offensive teasing in the first place), and when they tease, they do so in more hostile ways. In one study of heterosexual and homosexual relationships, the partner who was less committed to the relationship, and therefore more powerful, was more likely to bully the partner.

Bullying is a cue for power. This helps explain why women are attracted to, and stay with, assholes: assholery is a proxy for power, which in a man is a highly attractive trait.

We have not portrayed power in a flattering light. High-power individuals tend to act in ways that disregard conventions, morals, and the effects on others. Yet approach-related behavior can be of a more prosocial nature, and our analysis and the supportive findings of Chen and colleagues (2001) do suggest that high-power individuals will engage in behaviors that violate social norms in prosocial ways. Some of these behaviors include intervening in emergencies or helping others in distress, mediating conflicts, and expressing approval and affection.

I can think of one other, very topical, prosocial way that powerful men violate social norms: speaking ugly truth to globohomo power.

High-need-for-power individuals engaged in profligate gambling, drinking, and sexual licentiousness less often when two kinds of life events enhanced their accountability: having younger siblings and becoming a parent. In fact, the social responsibilities tied to having a younger sibling or being a parent led high-power individuals to engage in more prosocial, approach-related behaviors, such as involvement in voluntary organizations. More generally, we would predict that accountability would lead to less approach-related emotion, more attention to others, and more careful cognition in high-power individuals.

Unsurprisingly to anyone who isn’t a liberal, accountability regulates the expression of power. Relaxing accountability leads to more abuses of power (see for example, the modren American woman).

Accountability is enhanced by younger siblings and parenthood. This should send up a red flag. In European Christendom, White family sizes are shrinking and parenthood is delayed. The consequence will be powerful people expressing their power in less prosocial ways and with more self-gratifying impulsivity.

High-power individuals may be more likely to stereotype others or perceive homogeneity in their social worlds because those with less power inhibit the expression of their actual attitudes.

Weak, spineless soyboys and low value skanky pussyhatters cling to kumbaya universalism because they don’t have the balls nor the smv to express their true feelings.

When do the powerful fall? When their disinhibition becomes pathological:

The very individuals who might keep in check this pattern of [high-power individuals’] behaviors, those with less power, are constrained in thought, word, and action.

This analysis just as readily reveals the conditions for social change: The excesses of powerful leaders—their propensity for disinhibited behavior and stereotypic, error-prone social perceptions—

Virtue signaling leftoid equalists.

are certain to feed into the processes that lead to changes in leadership.

Hello, Deep State!

These speculations make contact with social psychology’s longstanding interest in authority and group dynamics, as seen in Lewin, Lippitt, and White’s (1939) early investigation of authoritarian and egalitarian playgroups; Sherif, Harvey, White, Hood, and Sherif’s (1961) Robbers Cave experiment; Janis’s (1972) discussion of groupthink; and Emerson’s (1962) lasting observation that low-power individuals constrain the actions of high-power individuals by affording them respect and status and thus controlling their public reputation.

Rescinding the respect and status that low-power people accord high-power people will render the latter less powerful. Or, to put it in Heartistian terms, The Mocking Shiv will Save the West.

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  1. on May 18, 2018 at 11:43 pm jaromil

    life truths 101

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 11:29 am King

      CH’s roundabout education in the classics proceeds apace! In the Second American Republic, all patrician boys will receive training in political philosophy as a precondition to maintaining their noble rank.

      The philosophies of power were inaugurated into modernity by Thomas Hobbes and the idea of the social contract, which tells us that life is “solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short” outside of the general agreement to rationally submit ourselves to the law. Or to put it in colloquial terms: any two betamales (or three omegas) acting temporarily in concert can kill the alpha male in his sleep.

      This “contractualism” is the foundation of the liberal state. Once we agree to the cease-fire in the “war of all against all,” the criterion for citizenship is obedience to “The Leviathan” state, which, to keep things short, wipes out all other distinctions between men, such as ethnicity, virtue, competence, attractiveness, charm, strength. Thus a philosophy of negotiated power becomes the foundation of universal egalitarianism, or what y’all call with all the inelegance of a neologism, “equalism.”

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 11:30 am King

        In other words, we live in a culture that has negotiated away the evolutionary advantages of power no matter what you feel (“When you have it, you act differently”). Acting on those instincts is contrary to the social contract and makes you by definition a criminal. So while “all human interaction can be stripped down to battles for power,” it’s a moot point because it ignores the intermediary leviathan which redistributes its effects according to a common standard having nothing to do with one’s personal goals or preferences.

        This slow realization is why a site which began seriously interested in the foundations of social interaction has necessarily gone down the rabbit hole to politics — and must eventually reckon with theology — or else get lost in surface frivolities like all the other PUA sites, with the possible exception of Return of Kings. Monomaniac gameboys BTFO’d.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 7:54 am CalvinDecline

        He champions the liberty and license of modernity (hedonism) for me but not for thee, and simultaneously wants none of the consequences (broken homes, broken heritage, broken race, broken civilization)

        This is a topic I’ve been deep diving into… as I become more aware of the fact that each girl I betray or “alpha-w!dow” tilts society that much farther towards the chaos we’ve all come to know and decry.

        On one side you have “I’m just doin me because all the women are broken, anyway” and on the other you have “I’m just doin me because where have all the good men gone”. Neither side is willing to cede any ground to the other, and the concept of sacrificing a little in order to cooperate and work together for the greater good is a foreign concept.

        Don’t get me wrong… I’m not here to beat anyone over the head and tell them how to live… I can’t say sh!t as I’ve been going the pool side route and dealing with all the benefits and consequences that come along with that decision.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 8:11 am plumpjack

        “Neither side is willing to cede any ground to the other, and the concept of sacrificing a little in order to cooperate and work together for the greater good is a foreign concept.”

        who do you think the “weak men” are in the “weak men create hard times” calculus?

        who are the “strong men”?

        define weak.

        define strong.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 9:08 am Carlos Danger

        I think you mean philosophy when you say classics. Classics implies Ancient literature up to about AD 600 or so. I for one will never bow to anyone who considers themselves patrician. Moreover my philosophical as well as classical education is superior to most received at the hands of their usual instructors. I think most of those people are vile turds and long ago abdicated any concept of noblesse oblige. I wish you would dispense with this patrician idea. It is foreign to our national ideals.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 9:35 am Carlos Danger

        Matt, Jesus was an expert at game. Reread the woman of the well. Better yet watch Bishop Sheen’s episode on it.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 9:46 am plumpjack

        “Reread the woman of the well.”

        Jesus: “you slept with five dudes and still ain’t got no husb@nd [sloot!]”

        chick: “OMG! He knows everything I’ve ever done!”

        game confirmed.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 3:10 pm trav777

        Another week, another school gets blasted up.

        Just read what one of the victims’ moms had to say…her daughter was a total saint and this awful boy wouldn’t stop approaching her and being rejected. It got so bad she finally stood up to him and embarrassed him in front of everyone.

        She was the first one he shot. When oh when will men ever learn that no means no? lol

        I’m sure that’s ALL there is to it, a boy who just kept hitting on a poor innocent womyn incessantly and she finally gurllpower’d up and called him out, the awful uncool geek…we all know how they are constantly hitting on women and approaching and oppressing them by letting things like their shadows fall on these women or else being in sight of them or saying hi. Nerds are constantly hitting on women all day, erry day…everyone knows this. Makes perfect sense and jibes with everyone’s experience.

        Like that Rodriquez thing- “yeah we all bullied him lol”

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 4:50 pm John James R

        Yeah good call Trav77. I’m no fan of school shootings but I’d like to know how brutally and sadistically this girl embarrassed the boy. Those first few rejections in high school are so extraordinarily painful and devastating that I doubt the boy kept going back for more. It’d be like getting bitten by a Mojave rattler and then going, “There it is again. C’mere snakey, snakey,” then sticking your hand in its face every time you saw it for another near fateful dose of toxin. Doubtful. I was rejected by my oneitis crush. I had a beta hall of fame case of oneitis and whenever she was around, I was terrified of her. It was like seeing a mountain lion in the woods. She wasn’t mean or vindictive at all either. That’s not what I’m saying. She was just this decent girl who had rejected me, fair play. No lead on, we never dated. The thought of going back for more was about the last thing on earth I’d have done back then. More likely is that this guy got rejected and found himself around her somehow and she indulged in modern female sadism towards betas and really destroyed an already destroyed boy. I’d like to know what happened.

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 12:06 pm Captain Obvious

      Yes, they’re describing Life Truths [in terms of observed behavior], but there’s an underlying tenor of Blank Slate horsesh!t here [at least in most of the excerpts chosen by CH] which renders their pseudo-analysis somewhere between laughably and poisonously ludicrous.

      The desire [followed by the struggle] for Power acts as a FILTER which removes all but the most ruthless personalities from achieving power, and after the struggle has subsided, the remaining personalities, i.e. the WINNERS, will be disporportionately Narcisisstic Personality Disorder & Psychopathic Personality DIsorder.

      BTW, the Deep State creeps, to whom CH refers towards the end of the essay, will have achieved their power via decades of back-stabbing games played within the surrealistic den-of-thieves dungeon which is the modren bureaucracy, and those creeps will necessarily be disproportionately Passive Aggressive Personality Disorder.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 12:07 pm Captain Obvious

        And even when change your point of view, from the winners at the top of the pyramid, down to the losers at the bottom of the pyramid, and you start considering the nitty-gritty of Game as a form of self-help & self-improvement therapy for the losers [e.g. the “Fake It Til You Make It” dogma to which CH refers], the kinds of loser guys who can pull themselves up by the bootstraps and successfully self-improve are living way off the right end for Will Power within the Great Bell Curve for Freedom of the Will [which is arguably the greatest and most important bell curve of them all].

        I.e. achieving success at self-improvement necessarily acts as a FILTER for removing those who are weak of Will, and like the Personality Disorders, Will Power is just about 110% determined at conception.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 12:14 pm Captain Obvious

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 12:17 pm Captain Obvious

        If my theories on the genetic foundations of Zyklon are correct, then circa 2020, it ought to become much EASIER for a Zyklon boy to become a father of White ch!ldren [which are his own, not another man’s], simply because The Frankfurt School has had such staggering success at removing from the White race the genes of those White chicks who didn’t want to become m0thers.

        But, even there, you’re dealing with the FILTER which the Zyklon boy’s father & grandfathers had to pass [circa 1950 to 2000] in order to see to it that the Zyklon boy existed in the first place, i.e. you’re dealing with the kinds of self-reinforcing feedback loops which make Darwinian Nihilism so horrifying for those who are weak of Will, and who are left to stand outside in the snow, shivering, and peering into the window to watch the party which the Strong of Will are enjoying around the warmth of the hearth.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 12:19 pm Captain Obvious

        Feedback loops of feedback loops of feedback loops – we used to have a Culture which helped to protect us from the terrifying tragedy of this stuff, but of course The Frankfurt School gutted that Culture, and replaced it with a nightmarish insanity of anti-White anti-fecundity anti-masculine anti-Patriarchal anti-moral cesspool of filth & lies & deceit.

        If we live long enough, then I suppose we’ll learn how Zyklon deals with all of this.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 1:21 pm King

        “Blank Slate horsesh!t” is foundational to the modern, social-contract (liberal) order, and his conceding that point leads to fatal inconsistencies in the end, particularly if he wants to include the findings of HBD ¡SCIENCE! into his ultimate thesis. It’s all connected, mang.

        But then again there has always been a contradiction at the heart of CH’s presentation which he probably will never need to address since the few who perceive it take the time to show it to him. He champions the liberty and license of modernity (hedonism) for me but not for thee, and simultaneously wants none of the consequences (broken homes, broken heritage, broken race, broken civilization). It’s a dastardly sneaky fuckery and the opposite of leadership. But then, that’s human nature, a part of all of us. Cf. Matt 19:16-22. You gotta choose. Life itself forces the choice. It’s better to do it consciously and before you age out of the picture. Be hot or cold, the lukewarm I vomit from my mouth.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 2:51 pm Captain Obvious

        “He champions the liberty and license of modernity (hedonism) for me but not for thee, and simultaneously wants none of the consequences (broken homes, broken heritage, broken race, broken civilization).”

        I don’t know that that’s fair to The Proprietor.

        There’s been sea-change in attitude from Him [and/or from his sub-contractors] in the last few years.

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 2:53 pm Captain Obvious

      “Feedback loops of feedback loops of feedback loops ”

      I guess I should have said: Feedback Loops passing through Filters, re-inforcing Feedback Loops passing through Filters, re-inforcing Feedback Loops passing through Filters, and so on & so forth, from now until the end of time.

      It’s simply horrifying – if you ever relax and let down your guard for just a geological blink of the eye, then someone like Genghis Kahn [at the one extreme] or The Frankfurt School [at the other extreme] will come to town and gut you and wipe your bloodlines right out of The Tree of Life.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 9:54 pm Marc

        Genghis Kahn
        lol

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 6:47 pm PBR Streetgang

        Free Greg Elliot

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  2. on May 18, 2018 at 11:49 pm Anon1111

    @CH I know you have a post on it, but you should elaborate more on how the pill has an effect on the young females in our current society. You talk about how beta game is a route that actually works better on girls that are on the pill in a few of your past posts…….but I would say at least half of the fuckable girls in our society are on the pill…at LEAST half. So wouldn’t that discount a lot of the ‘alpha’ game importance banter that goes on, wouldn’t it make sense that if females are never getting the hormones to ovulate then they wouldn’t ever be ‘turned on’ by the alpha game to sexual lust/desire…I think that the whole alpha game would still work in the sense of social groups and what not, but I would think it works best on ovulating females out and about and whatnot. Tell me what you think about this, would beta game in fact be more important than alpha game if 50% of the females never ovulate….Also, I think that the pill may be hurting the ‘alpha-crowd style’ in the sense that alphas do well with ovulating chicks, b/c alphas basically know how to fuck and want to fuck always ha. Is there something to that?

    Also, a good game post would be on how to handle a girl who is a horrible ‘back-seat driver’ and shit testing you while you drive etc

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 7:01 am LB

      Yes, the pill is devastating to mutual attraction. Read this, it will blow your mind: https://naturalwomanhood.org/how-the-birth-control-pill-messes-up-mutual-attraction/

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 8:29 am trav777

      the backseat driver thing is easy…look over at them and say zip it

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 10:46 am Captain Obvious

        “the backseat driver thing”

        Could be a lot of different things here, but if it’s Passive Aggressive Personality Disorder, then RUN FORREST RUN.

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    • on May 21, 2018 at 11:00 am vfm#7634

      Yes and no. If you see a girl with a disgustingly beta boyfriend, the Pill may help explain why she hasn’t gotten rid of him. But in order to attract a girl, it’s better to use alpha, in the same way it’s better to attract a girl when she’s sober than when she’s drunk.

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  3. on May 19, 2018 at 1:17 am Mycroft Jones

    What does it mean when you tease girls and they cry?

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 1:37 am Carlos Danger

      Ginatingles in the aftermath

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 10:47 am Captain Obvious

        +1.

        But if you have a conscience, then it also means that you just Broke It, ergo You Own It.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 10:48 am Captain Obvious

        Pumping & Dumping a chick whom you broke to the point of crying is the perfect recipe for leaving an Alpha Widow in your wake.

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 11:58 am King

      It means you’ve demonstrated the truth of inequality in real terms, coupled with their lack of traditional recourse which once helped them feel better about The Difference Between Men and Women. They’ve been told they have to be as strong as men and to stand up to bullies or teasing boys with equal aggression, an aggression that runs so contrary to their nature that it makes them cry.

      Their harridan boomer and echo-boom mothers have lied to them, whereas in the past they’d have many options at their disposal beyond public humiliation and self-hatred, not least of which would be masculine sympathy for women in pain and the social (chivalrous! cucky! white-knightly!) duties that spring from that sympathy. Feminine power used to be founded on their tears and the manipulation of male power through them. But that useful device has been taken away from women, ostensibly for their own good, because it fails against the masculine standard of contempt for weakness.

      Put another way, making girls cry is one way to cut through the antisocialization of modern women and forces them back in touch with their femininity, or ultimate sense of (magnificent) vulnerability. You force strip them naked and they are left with no more defenses, and the tears are the signal of their capitulation … and, paradoxically, the beginning of their true power over you.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 5:02 pm oink

        we’re all created equal

        get wit’ da program, kang.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 5:07 pm oink

        dat line with vessels for honour and vessels for dishour, just middle eastern gobbledygook

        common kang, let’s finish off the fella bleeding over here, and then we’ll split his inheritance

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  4. on May 19, 2018 at 2:36 am Jim Christian

    Already leaning out: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/queen-announces-meghan-markle-prince-harrys-official-royal-titles-071434861.html

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  5. on May 19, 2018 at 4:07 am TLM

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  6. on May 19, 2018 at 5:27 am Sentient

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 5:32 am Sentient

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 5:34 am Sentient

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 5:39 am Sentient

      Very powerful frame for approaching in this talk at 24 minutes…

      “find the truth of the situation”

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 12:46 pm trav777

        it’s not bad advice

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 6:58 pm Oleaginous Outrager

        The ad at Youtube before that video is trying to foist an audience with Pope Francine about “the problems in today’s world” on me. Just when I thought he could be anymore useless.

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  7. on May 19, 2018 at 6:52 am Jaded Jurist

    Three vagnettes to support this phenomenon:

    ONE

    Owen Cook (stage name Tyler Durden) reports that women he’s gaming often look at him, puzzled and intrigued, and ask, “Are you rich?”

    Cook is a short Ginger from a broken home. Yet he treats women like he’s a rich, famous, statuesque dreamboat. Because he is none of these (especially not the latter two) but he has the confidence of all three, the hamster settles on “rich”. Debauchery ensues.

    TBC….

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 7:01 am Jaded Jurist

      TWO

      In military academies (think Annapolis, West Point, USAFA, The Citadel, RMC, etc) freshmen cadet girls overwhelmingly hook up with senior cadet guys to an extent far more magnified than one sees in civilian institutions.

      The difference? Senior cadets have real power, and official rank, over the others. This of course is hamster (and snail) bait.

      [BONUS VAGNETTE]

      The opposite happens at the other end of the line. Retiring general officers are experiencing epic levels of frivorce, as the socialite celebrity General’s / Admiral’s Wife suddenly has to contend with life as wife to a mere good man with a modest pension.

      TBC….

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 11:14 am herbie

        wow, never thought that far. Game truly is never ending.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 6:11 pm Jaded Jurist

        Good catch, Herbie. Yes, a man must still game his wife over the decades. Frankly, both of you will love it, however, so it’s hardly a burden.

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 7:14 am Jaded Jurist

      THREE

      A new-agey self-helpy person once shared a culty-sounding piece of ethereal wisdom that actually stuck with me in a manner unlike any vegan dish:

      “Nothing anybody says to you can have power over you unless you consent to it.”

      In English: shit tests are only shit tests.

      Scenario #1: Dude lacking confidence approaches HB8. She laughs and calls him a loser. He thinks she may be right. The words are barbs to her harpoon, and he is sunk.

      Scenario #2: Trump / Sean Connery / Tucker Carlson / Name Your Favorite Alpha Celeb flirts with HB8. She snarls, “You couldn’t afford me for a night!” He laughs at the absurdity of her comment and NEXTes her. She lurches after him hoping to prove her desirability.

      It’s all in how you view yourself. If you’re not yet there, Fake It Til You Make It.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 7:18 am Jaded Jurist

        Wait, that quote isn’t right. The actual quote was

        “Nobody can have power over you unless you let them.”

        Even better.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 11:34 am King

        “Nobody can have power over you unless you let them.”

        No.

        What kind of up-with-people addlepated Oprahism bullshit is this?

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 12:29 pm trav777

        try running from the police and get back to me on that. Then tell it to the judge.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 1:02 pm Captain Obvious

        JJ is speaking spiritually [gnostically], not LEGALISTICALLY.

        Sheesh.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 2:02 pm Jaded Jurist

        I had thought the preemptive description of the source would be sufficient.

        But seriously, there’s a real kernel of truth in there.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 5:00 pm Captain Obvious

        “Nobody can have power over you unless you let them.”

        Not just a kernel of Truth – it’s the G0d’s Honest Truth.

        BTW, this is how Passive-Aggressive women destroy their men [and often drive them to su!cide] – because weak men allow those shrikes to live rent-free in their heads, and eventually the shrikes will drive the weak men to su!cide.

        For Game purposes, when a woman starts going all Passive Aggressive on your @ss, you have three choices:

        A) Break her right then and there, and break her permanently.

        B) Turn your back on her, walk away, and never speak to her again.

        C) Prepare to be destroyed by her.

        There is no middle ground with Passive Aggressive Personality Disorder.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 6:20 pm Jaded Jurist

        CO, that’s the truth. My brother got destroyed by Mrs (now Ms–guess who initiated the divorce) Passive-Aggressive.

        He paid her way through her Master’s Degree (SMH) and now he’s likely to keep on paying for her for a long time.

        I warned him 17 years ago that she was poisonous, but he had already carved his pedestal in her honor. He stopped talking to me when I told him back then to stay away from her, and now he still won’t talk to me because he’s upset that I was right.

        It does make one want to agree with A.A. re: women + cages.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 7:06 pm Oleaginous Outrager

        What kind of up-with-people addlepated Oprahism bullshit is this?

        A paraphrase of Eleanor Roosevelt: “No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.”

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 8:30 pm Jaded Jurist

        Even better. Nice quote.

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  8. on May 19, 2018 at 7:05 am plumpjack

    all very relevant but what kind of peoples spend this much time and energy writing a paper and doing research (i.e. being all up in their heads) about acting masculine, instead of just, say, going ahead doing it?

    if you guessed “skull-crushing zfg alpha shitlords, that’s who!” you’d 100% f’ing wrong!

    Dacher Keltner – University of California Berkeley
    (wiki):
    “Keltner has collaborated with directors at Pixar, including film director and animator Pete Docter in preparation of his 2015 film Inside Out. He has worked and continues to work with Facebook engineers and designers on projects such as Facebook stickers and Facebook Reactions. He has also worked on projects at Google on altruism and emotion, and was recently featured in Tom Shadyac’s movie I Am.

    Keltner is also collaborating with the Sierra Club to get veterans and inner city kids outdoors. Building upon his experiences in a restorative justice program with prisoners in San Quentin Prison, Keltner wrote a brief for a case — Ashker v. Governor of California (ccrjustic.org) — that led to the curtailment of solitary confinement in maximum-security prisons in California.”

    Deborah H. Gruenfeld – Stanford University
    (wiki):
    “…a wrongful termination suit filed by Gruenfeld’s estranged husband, James A. Phills, who had been another professor at the business school. Phills alleged his firing was driven by the affair that Gruenfeld was having with the dean of the business school, Garth Saloner, apparently with the knowledge of the Stanford’s Provost, John Etchemendy. According to Vanity Fair’s David Margolick, the litigation was “mutually assured destruction” for everyone involved, and with respect to Gruenfeld, he wrote: “How does it look for someone who built her career analyzing the abusiveness (she dubbed it “disinhibition”) of the powerful, and who, until a month before she became romantically entangled with the dean, was the G.S.B.’s sexual-harassment adviser, and who, as co-director of Stanford’s Executive Program for Women Leaders, counsels high-powered women on how to overcome gender stereotypes, to wind up secretly sleeping with her boss?””

    Cameron Anderson – University of California Berkeley

    summary: beta male physiognomy is painfully real

    interesting read, tho. had me glued to the screen until I realized it was time to head over to the gym.

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 7:22 am Jaded Jurist

      They’re Science Fiction nerds living vicariously through their papers.

      They’re also Level Three Atheists.

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 8:19 am Sentient

      Yeah but this is the way these th ings get deconstructed.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 11:37 am King

        A deconstruction that is wholly superfluous when you’re educated in the classics. And jargoned to within an inch of its life for maximum plebeian confusion.

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 1:09 pm Captain Obvious

      I just naturally assumed that “Keltner” would be a (((Lizard People))) name, but looking at pictures of the guy, and doing a little j00gling, leads me to believe he’s White germanic.

      Which makes his work with (((Facebook))) an act of Treason against the White race [unless he’s gone undercover to do something highly subversive there].

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 7:19 pm Oleaginous Outrager

        Are you sure? Dacher is a a yiddish word, and also a Jewish last name (especially as apparently he pronounces it with a hard ch). Keltner could go either way.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 9:10 pm Captain Obvious

        He’s blond-haired and blue-eyed, and I get tons of hits on “Keltner” plus “Lutheran Synod”.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 9:54 am Captain Obvious

        If he’s a j00, then he’s got a he11uva lotta goyische bl00d in him.

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  9. on May 19, 2018 at 10:02 am Major Styles

    “This is one of those studies where most of the useful gems of knowledge are tucked deep in the paper and only alluded to in the abstract.”

    It’s amazing how many of these academic studies (usually written by liberal women, beta males, or Jews) will always gloss over the most relevant points. Or, they will make the ancillary anecdote the focus of the study. In short, they fear stating the most obvious realities out loud. They run circles around a topic, always pretending to be at the crux of it.

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 1:13 pm Captain Obvious

      Disinformation outlets such as (((The J00 Yawk Times))) pull the same stunt – they’ll publish the damaging stuff on roughly the third-to-last page of the Saturday paper, which no one ever reads [and no one but no one has the stick-to-it-ive-ness to make it to the third-to-last page].

      Then they can say that they covered it, even though none of their readers ever heard about it.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 5:21 pm Major Styles

        They never seem to tire of sedition. It’s a stubbornness of epic proportions.

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  10. on May 19, 2018 at 11:19 am Pretty Boy Looch

    CH flipped the script on this paper

    I love the meta-game taking place here

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 11:42 am King

      Well, they get the last laugh because his critique amounts to fighting on their turf, using their methods and terminology and foundational assumptions. The strength of the bottom-up, field-report, experiential game approach always has been its ability to flip the finger at these nerds and laugh them and their omegastic lives off the stage. It’s not that they haven’t stumbled onto some truth, it’s that their method of arriving at that truth precludes them from ever properly living its wisdom, which is the entire point.

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  11. on May 19, 2018 at 12:14 pm Ironsides

    OT:

    Just had a rather white-pilling trip to the grocery store.

    It was full of young couples with white kids. I counted six different couples or mothers with 2 or 3 kids, one with 4, and four more with 1. Also one brawd pushing a little blond shitlord in a cart, with a big gravid belly.

    There was one mudshark with a hideous noglet also, but in the main, my impression (anecdotal, i admit) is of swarms of white-skinned kids, lots of them with blond hair.

    Of course, this is in a smallish city surrounded by farmland, so it’s obviously not typical of the big loathsome urban centers. But there will be Afghan-like white clans skulking up in the hills here with AR-15s for another generation after everything goes to pot, it looks like. 😉

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 1:16 pm Captain Obvious

      “It was full of young couples with white kids. I counted six different couples or mothers with 2 or 3 kids, one with 4, and four more with 1. Also one brawd pushing a little blond shitlord in a cart, with a big gravid belly.”

      ZYKLON RISING.

      [PS: Zyklon is never off-topic; Zyklon is arguably the sole Raison d’Etre du Chateau.]

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 1:18 pm Captain Obvious

        ZYKLON RISING

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  12. on May 19, 2018 at 12:47 pm King

    All of this presumes an unmediated state of nature where individual power is dispositive. It ignores the unavoidable fact that society is artifice whereby these power relationships are regulated. Even if there is, say, an Underground Sexual Market, where hidden currents of instinct and desire control our actions (itself a hyped advertisement targeting the AFC, who wouldn’t know different), it doesn’t take adequately into account the real ways that civic artifice impinges on that primordial dynamic. The War of All Against All formulation is too simple, dismissing social rules and traditions and enforced compromises with a wave of the hand, discounting them as the betamale conspiracy of resentment, standing in the way of what men and women really want, and nothing more.

    Except that these artifices — also called civilization — are much more than the product of resentment. They are protections that, yes, keep the strong from annihilating the weak, but also keep the weak from quantitatively overwhelming the strong. “Twelve mangy dogs can kill a lion.” An alpha benefits just as much as a beta from the social compact. That’s why it works.

    You imply that alpha males will game a system that not just protects them but also enhances their power by subtracting violence out of the equation. The opposite is the case. It’s beta males who have to resort to sneaky fuckery, to manipulations, and to secret assignations that rely on diverting secret sexual undercurrents. Alphas are overt and straightforward because they can be.

    It is hogwash to say that alphas are defined as being means to their own ends. What distinguishes alpha from beta with regard to instrumentality is not self-interest — the social compact requires everybody be means to their own ends and violently suppresses every attempt to usurp others’ — but rather the orientation of their means, being either direct or indirect.

    Matt

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 5:21 pm Captain Obvious

      https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=AFC

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  13. on May 19, 2018 at 1:18 pm Carlos Danger

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 3:43 pm Captain Obvious

      Apparently Hickok45 did the Shockwave a year ago – I didn’t even know the gun existed until just now. Thanks so much.

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 3:43 pm Captain Obvious

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 3:57 pm Ironsides

        You should watch the InRangeTV video on the Shockwave — they tear the whole concept to pieces.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 4:53 pm Captain Obvious

        “InRangeTV”

        Jesus H Christ those dudes were phags.

        Go to Hickok45’s channel and watch A REAL MAN f!re a g*n.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 5:28 pm Ironsides

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 9:50 am Carlos Danger

        I was more focused on the home made version being a good stop gap. These are the same as sawed off shotguns but purpose built.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 9:28 pm boned

        You can put forearm braces on them now and shoulder those

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  14. on May 19, 2018 at 2:10 pm K Young

    The kind of insightful work I’ve come to expect from the chateau

    I’ve felt especially confident on the approach – almost entitled – in general when I’ve felt more in control consistently in work/career as well. I assume this is a global neurotransmitter and hormone issue too

    It’s easier to feel like an Alpha on the prowl when you lean that way all the time

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  15. on May 19, 2018 at 2:12 pm jabowery

    You need to go back to primate politics and even before that to the evolution of sex before you can adequately synthesize models of civil dominance like that proposed in paper linked in the OP. A fairly good book on primate politics as it pertains to civilization is The Social Conquest of Earth. It totally elides human biodiversity and misses some key points, such as the role fire played in the thermodynamics of cognition, and over-emphasizes social selection driven by fire as a the center of a “protected nest”: the primary condition for the emergence of eusocial organization such as civilization. The evolution of eusociality, hence civil society and the power of gangs is reasonably seen as a regression from the evolution of sex. Hence guys like Harvey Wienstein are not properly thought of as truly sexual creatures. They are products of a regression from sexual evolution. Indeed, all gang power (money, military, organized religion, “consensus”, etc.) is regression to asexual reproduction and those who enjoy “power” hence reproductive success within that context are qualitatively different in evolutionary direction from individual alphas represented in the vast majority of sexual species. Primates starting with the CHLCA began gang violence leading to human civilization hence to asexual reproduction, which is now becoming a real potential endpoint for “humans”. However, there have been major recoveries of sex. The evolution of whites was one such recovery that no one — not even white nationalists — will touch with a ten foot pole, let alone a big ten inch…

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    • on May 20, 2018 at 7:55 pm Suburban_elk

      The evolution of whites was one such recovery that no one — not even white nationalists — will touch with a ten foot pole, let alone a big ten inch…

      You are referring here to Natural Duel?

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 11:05 pm jabowery

        A Pleistocene Cro Magnon man supports his woman and children through the winters with his hunting pack: Their dogs. They’re an autonomous nuclear family and he is answerable to no one but (to use an apt phrase in the context of “Independence”) Nature and Nature’s God. He and his dogs go out one full moon night. His pack becomes excited. They’re on the scent of game. He is in command of his pack, quieting them and engaging in stealth. Through, first strategy to gain position, then surprise, they bring down a boar. A dog is injured. He and his dogs drag the boar and the injured dog back home. They feast. The pregnant woman nurses the injured dog back to health and a child is born in the dead of winter.

        Fade to the next year.

        He, again, goes out hunting one cold, full moon night with his pack. This year his hunt isn’t successful.

        A month passes. His family is hungry. They’ve already eaten one of their older dogs. They’ll eat more if necessary — perhaps all of them. Their year-old can no longer suckle. The mother’s breast has gone dry. She may have to put the infant out in the snow — as is the custom in this dire situation. A bitch has recently birthed a litter. She is lactating. Her pups are sacrificed. The infant suckles from the bitch. (ref: The myth of Romulus and Remus)

        He again goes out under this month’s full moon. It is even colder. He notices his pack behaving in an unusual manner — not as though there is a prey they’ve sensed. Then he realizes what they are sensing: Another Cro Magnon man is out hunting in the same area with his pack. He naturally surmises this is why there is a lack of prey: Another pack has eaten or driven off the prey in his area. As in the boar hunt of the prior year, he is shown in command of his pack, but the strategy is different. This “prey” is an intelligent, Cro Magnon man — a competitor for scarce winter food. One household, at most, will live and at least one will die — and it all depends on the stategic intelligence, physical strength — in the face of starvation — and command discipline of their respective packs.

        Alternatively…

        A similar conflict between two human-headed hunting packs occurs, but one is headed by a young woman who is having greater difficulty surviving in winter because she is less equipped to hunt. The young man and young woman in this conflict demonstrate the primordial sexual/reproductive dynamic of Euroman.

        Canid coevolution broke up the primate hunting pack to a much larger degree in Euroman evolution than it did in other branches of humans. This made us superior — but not when it comes to being pheromone-organized gangsta “dogs”.

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  16. on May 19, 2018 at 2:38 pm Name (required)

    Older brothers have power and status over the younger siblings. Younger sibs have older brothers to emulate. An only child misses out on all of that. The epidemic of only childen may partly explain the epidemic of soy-boys.

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 2:56 pm Captain Obvious

      And then it becomes exponentially worse when it’s a single ch!ld being raised by a single m0ther.

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  17. on May 19, 2018 at 3:41 pm Sir Roger

    im an only child and confirm some of the above, but the rest is horse sh*t, i run my own business, have a son from a previous relationship and 3 girlfriends. it is the lack of clear guidance and linear progression with an older brother which increases the length of the learning curve to poosy paradise.

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  18. on May 19, 2018 at 4:08 pm Mr. Roboto

    Beta of the Year…

    tfw it’s your wedding day and she already on Tinder swipin’ right. pic.twitter.com/Bv1IMZlbvz

    — The Old Morpheus (@TheOldMorpheus) May 19, 2018

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 4:44 pm Captain Obvious

      https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TFW

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 5:01 pm Mr. Roboto

        All my females. If Meghan never left her first marriage she wouldn’t be a princess today or royalty. There is always better.

        — Yvonne (@yvonnevictoriaa) May 19, 2018

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 6:25 pm Jaded Jurist

      Remember when he seemed more DGAF than his older brother? I assume now that was all fake.

      He should have GAF a little when it came to forming a family.

      Coming soon: the first mulatto Down Syndrome prince.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 7:19 pm Mr. Roboto

        Indeed, I used to think that Harry was very Alpha, but now it is clear to me that he was faking it, he is even more Beta than his dad or his brother.

        “first mulatto Down Syndrome prince”

        llozlzozlzl

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 7:24 pm Oleaginous Outrager

        Coming soon: the first mulatto Down Syndrome princeess.

        Possibly what the rest of the family is hoping for, because that will be all anyone talks about for the next two decades, thus leaving them in relative peace.

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      • on May 19, 2018 at 8:41 pm Jaded Jurist

        I see what you did there, OO. And, yeah, you’re probs right.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 1:06 am Alex the Goon

        Prince… princess… You guys need to let xem decide what xe’ll be.

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 9:24 pm PA

      His mother is dead and she had no power anyway, and died a mudshark. His father is not Price Charles. He’s got Alpha mettle but nobody has his back in that pit of antichristian rattlesnakes.

      So one night, he does what all young men do when they’re not killing boy-lovers in Afghanistan, piloting a helicopter under fire, and sieg-heiling: he gets drunk and bangs a chick. Except that she was 12 (looking like 23) and it was filmed. And they have him.

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 9:25 pm PA

      His m0ther is dead and she had no power anyway, and died a mudshark. His father is not Price CharIes. He’s got Alpha mettle but nobody has his back in that pit of antichristian rattlesnakes.

      So one night, he does what all young men do when they’re not killing boy-lovers in Afghanistan, piloting a helicopter under fire, and sieg-heiling: he gets drunk and bangs a chick. Except that she was 12 (looking like 23) and it was filmed. And they have him.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 7:15 am plumpjack

        it could not be anything other than some kind of blackmail. however, I was thinking more along the lines of financial blackmail. ie, the royal family charade running up some serious debt and basically having to give up one of their own to the bankers to keep the thing afloat.

        in the long run it doesn’t matter. princesses conveniently succumb to unfortunate accidents and illnesses all the time. what really matters is whether the royal family has a single DNA strand of royal shitlord courage buried somewhere in their bloodline. if so, would they be able to act on it in the present scenario? not likely, but they could simply be biding their time like the rest of us. “sure, I’ll m@rry your washed up mulatto whore…for now…”

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 7:17 am plumpjack

        don’t underestimate the wrath of the awakened Saxon, which, if you ask me, is clearly visible in the photo above.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 7:27 am plumpjack

        *awakening saxon. I see it stirring deep inside Harry. he may not even realize it yet, but it’s there.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 8:00 pm SteveRogers42

        Guess he must be a Texas Longhorns football fan:

        Nice hand gesture Harry! from greatawakening

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 10:54 am Roy

        Well, in his defense there is a precedent… Henry VIII. Off with her head!

        If he finds his inner shitlord that is.

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 11:55 pm Jim Christian

      The half-breed, she was leaning out on all their pics the last few days. She hates Harry more than Rubio’s wife hates Marco. I hate the term, but both of these guys, Cucks of the Year.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 2:49 pm John James R

        Leaning out with the create-a-buffer hand on the chest also. She has also been tending to keep her chin tucked with that forehead of hers tilted forward to make a kind of ‘let’s nuzzle, not kiss’ move. She staves off the kiss option with that significant forehead running interference, protecting her mouth and making it through another few minutes without a deep, tongue kiss. He can’t navigate around that forehead, especially since she’s so much shorter. Her mouth is inaccessible. Handsome Prince is not good enough. I see so many couple pics these days that are so easy to read. Nearly all women are leaning away, with the create-a-buffer hand placement. It’s epidemic.

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 11:04 am vfm#7634

        Yeah, I’ve never understood the drive of some women to get toyboys who don’t actually turn them on. What if some alpha writes her off because he figures she’s taken? lzolzozlz

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    • on May 20, 2018 at 10:48 am Anonymous

      She’ll be creepin’ with some brawlin’ football hooligan in three months…

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  19. on May 19, 2018 at 6:49 pm Sentient

    Ruh roh Comey…

    Plant is Halper…

    https://nypost.com/2018/05/19/cambridge-professor-outed-as-fbi-informant-inside-trump-campaign/

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  20. on May 19, 2018 at 8:52 pm cortesar

    hehe as we approach the end of times all genres getting mixed comedy, farce and tragedy

    Video shows a doctor dancing and singing while her patients are under the knife. She has at least seven malpractice lawsuits filed against her. @JStrickalndWSB confronts her, Monday at 5 https://t.co/Sf4gwxquJB pic.twitter.com/DZuiREodzb

    — WSB-TV (@wsbtv) May 19, 2018

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    • on May 20, 2018 at 9:36 pm SteveRogers42

      If this were fiction, the editors would cut this scene, because no one would believe it.

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    • on May 20, 2018 at 11:43 pm Ltc. Andy Tanner

      wow. But I bet she has a ton of Diversity Empowerment for the Empowering of Diversity awards.

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  21. on May 19, 2018 at 9:00 pm Captain Obvious

    Santa Fe shooter killed girl who turned down his advances http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3656598/posts

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    • on May 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Captain Obvious

      The 17-year-old suspect in Friday’s shooting at a Texas high school killed a classmate who turned down his repeated advances, killing her first in his deadly rampage that also killed nine others, according to the girl’s mother.

      Student Shana Fisher’s mother told the LA Times that junior Dimitrios Pagourtzis gave her daughter “4 months of problems” before Fisher rejected him publicly in front of classmates.

      “A week later he opens fire on everyone he didn’t like,” she wrote to the newspaper. “Shana being the first one.”

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 1:11 am Alex the Goon

        Deadliest case of noneitis this week.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 1:07 pm Captain Obvious

        If anyone has an account at the DaGoyimKnow bulletin board, then tell Anglin to look into this chick, Shana Fisher.

        I can’t get the pics through M0d right now, but if you go to j00gle pictures and search on “Shana Fisher Dimitrios Pagourtzis”, then you’ll see that she herself was a phreak show train wreck, consistent with Anglin’s “Atomwaffen” hypothesis.”

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 6:50 am oink

        well alphas have been busy deosouling every single thot in sight, and 5 minutes of alpha is better than a lifetime of beta; so there’s a mass of frustrated ince|s with a lack of direction in their lives.

        //btw, mom is a 1st-class attention wh*re// daugh|er, yikes// but De mortuis nil nisi bonum

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 8:27 am plumpjack

        “The modern West is defined by the systematic sexual, psychological and emotional abuse of men by women. We are taught from an early age that women are simply allowed to do whatever they want to men, and that men have absolutely no recourse. We are in fact taught that it is morally justifiable for a woman to abuse a man in every conceivable manner.

        Yesterday, it was revealed that the reason Dimitrios Pagourtzis went on a shooting rampage at his high school was that he was publicly humiliated by an entitled, hateful slut, Shana Fisher – and she was the first one to get the shotgun blast.”

        https://dailystormer.name/will-the-texas-shooting-cause-women-to-reconsider-the-systematic-abuse-of-men/

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 8:33 am plumpjack

        “Will Women Change Their Behavior Because of This?
        That is a rhetorical question.

        Women will always indulge themselves to whatever extent society allows them to indulge themselves, without ever considering the consequences.

        “Hey, if I publicly emasculate this man for my own enjoyment, he might kill me” is no more likely to enter a woman’s mind than “maybe I shouldn’t run from this cop” is likely to enter a black man’s mind.”

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 8:35 am plumpjack

        “The Best School Shooter Narrative
        “Scorned suiter” is the best possible school shooter narrative.

        We always hope these don’t get blamed on the Alt-Right, because that makes us look insane and also could lead to further crackdowns on us. We always hope they are leftists, because it makes that side look bad.

        But this isn’t political, and yet the semi-political narrative being asserted makes the left look bad too, as they try to blame white men for being angry over feminism. There is no white man who – whether he consciously knows it or not – is not angry over feminism, so portraying men who rebel against it as potentially violent psychos is a worthless narrative.

        And in people’s minds, there is a seed planted with regards to the fact that maybe something not-so-good is going on in high schools. Maybe our boys are having a hard time. And maybe that is something that we should be discussing.”

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 9:01 am Captain Obvious

        PJ, if you have a DaGoyimKnow account, then tell Anglin that Le Chateau says, “THANK YOU!!!”

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 9:15 am Ironsides

        i’d thank them, since i have an account there, but the BBS is down.

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 11:08 am vfm#7634

        “Will Women Change Their Behavior Because of This?”

        @plumpjack
        The only thing that works is to get the womenzes’ Hamsters working for your benefit. Nothing else will.

        If some bitch decides you’re The Alpha, and the greatest thing since sliced bread, she’ll pass the word around to all the other Hamsters, and you could do as Trump said and sh00t up 5th Avenue and they’ll still stick up for you.

        Our Greek Omega was SOL in this regard.

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 11:32 am vfm#7634

        “Maybe our boys are having a hard time. And maybe that is something that we should be discussing.”

        Unless they have a lot of natural Game, they won’t be socialized properly.

        One of the biggest problems is the drive for instant gratification. Young men quite often have absolutely no patience. They have to have everything NAOW, including that girl they want. But it doesn’t work that way.

        My advice to those in Greek Omega’s boat:
        Do NOT get scared, or butthurt about whatever boyfriend she has. Be relaxed and fun with her. Flirt with her. If she’s semi-rude to you, back off, disappear for a while, and flirt with whichever other girls catch your fancy. Above all, be patient and have an abundance mentality. She’s not the only girl around who’s capable of giving you a boner. She’ll come back around if she had been flirting with you before, or warm up to you if you’re new.

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 1:06 pm plumpjack

        “@plumpjack
        The only thing that works is to get the womenzes’ Hamsters working for your benefit. Nothing else will.”

        vfm, that’s all well and good, but it isn’t 2015 anymore. the angle that “game will fix everything” is becoming not just stale – it’s becoming absurd. and I’m saying this as a former believer in said angle.

        the fact of the matter is, and anglin stated this perfectly, that we are in the unsustainable situation where women are morally, legally, and culturally held unaccountable for their behavior and considered beyond reproach. while simultaneously white males are morally, legally, and cultural persecuted and considered guilty of every possible sin simply by virtue of the fact that they are still taking breathe, while getting NOTHING in return. no house. no girl. no job. no status. no nothing.

        this is the situation as it stands. and this is probably what led to the formation of the beta male patriarchy in the first place. tribal leaders probably said, “you know, it’s really great that we get to hoard all the pussy to ourselves, but all these single dudes are wreaking havoc. maybe we oughtta figure something out, where they each get a girl if they play by our rules.”

        so the civilization wreckers made destroying the patriarchy a priority and lo and behold we’re now in a volatile situation where we have a lot of frustrated guys running around in an age where weapons of significant destruction are readily available, and whaddya know they’re taking matters into their own hands. basically this guy did a one-man, anti-slut jihad. and there will be more.

        yeah, immediate gratification. absolutely. no question about it. guy shoulda some stacks, did some push-pull, gamed another girl right in front of her to make her jealous. all that. tick-tock-tick-tock….

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  22. on May 19, 2018 at 9:05 pm Jim Christian

    Women give us SO much material to PROVE how their ‘rise’ has resulted in the Fall, the Decline. Check out this article in NYTimes on the rise and fall of Time Magazine. They used to keep the women in copywriting and fact checking. Eventually the women came to power there and of course, throughout. As women became more and more THE influence in media the past twenty years, the magazine burned through billions of dollars trying to support it all. These shrews simply refuse to acknowledge the destruction wrought by their presence and rise. When I suggest the decline of the West begane with the rise of women in media and influence in government, they don’t deny it. Instead, it’ “You hate women, you’re a sexist”. Man, I know I got em when they start with that. Because they know I’m RIGHT. Broads.

    Here’s the link: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/19/business/media/time-inc-oral-history.html?mtrref=www.drudgereport.com

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    • on May 20, 2018 at 12:04 am Carlos Danger

      As I have said many times before, they are in dire need of a beat down and we are in dire need of the freedom to do it. Eventually we will simply take that freedom but the law will have to break down sufficiently for it. That is coming especially if we have economic failure and truly hard times. Would you risk your life for some entitled tatted up whore or even an entitled and spoiled but beautiful princess? Women also tell themselves their utter failure is in fact success because all women fit reality to their preconceived notions, as do children.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 11:22 am Ironsides

        As I’ve pointed out, White men are trapped in an airtight straitjacket of policing and monitoring and regulations of their own devising. They tried to make a system that was safe and fair for everyone and in the process bound themselves helplessly for their enemies to devour.

        Said enemies including their now-feral women, along with the j00s who find women so easy to manipulate and the hordes of invasive wogs.

        That’s why the only exit i can see is the Mexicans taking over. Under their control, Mexico is pretty damn lawless. In those conditions, the Aryan will be freed from its own foolishly created trammels to let its inner blond beast come bounding out once more.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 11:54 am plumpjack

        “the only exit i can see is the Mexicans taking over. Under their control, Mexico is pretty damn lawless. In those conditions, the Aryan will be freed from its own foolishly created trammels to let its inner blond beast come bounding out once more.”

        then we should just go ahead and push for bringing as many beaners as possible, as quickly as possible. The Ironsides Plan.

        everyone, we need you all at the border now! we’re going to start ferrying in Mexicans by the busload!

        LET’S GO! MOVE-MOVE-MOVE-MOVE-MOVE!!!

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 12:54 pm Ironsides

        Spare me, plumpjack. I would drive every one of them out at bayonet point if possible. “Citizen” or not, legal or illegal, they’d all be leaving on cattle cars for the border, and crossing in the US would be punishable on the spot with death.

        I’m merely pointing out that IN OUR REALITY there is NO EXIT currently from the problem.

        Voting? The Deep State controls everything at this point. Trump is either part of the Deep State either voluntarily or involuntarily — or is simply helpless.

        People like Nehien and Little are great, but they will not be elected.

        Infiltrate the institutions? We don’t have 100 years.

        Rebel? Less than zero chance of that. Anyone who tries will die in vain and just cause other White men to be more watched, more monitored, more helpless.

        So what’s left?

        Die out, or grab a chance presented by our enemies.

        The two chances are:

        1. The left goes totally batshit and starts mass slaughtering Whites, at which point the Whites will strike back, as is the wont of cornered beings.

        2. The Mexicans take over — as THEY WILL, SOON, because nobody is doing anything about it, not even ZOG Emperor Caracalla Trump — and ruin everything, including — by accident — the system that is keeping us bound.

        You got another solution? Because I don’t see one. If it was going to be fixed within the existing system, it had to be started at least a generation ago, maybe two generations.The aircraft is in a nosedive and is about two of its own lengths above the ground. This is it. The USA is finished. That’s not what i want, but i’m not going to sit here gabbling delusional, magical thinking either.

        The fall of this system may at least give us a chance. I’d rather look at that possibility than just give up, personally.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 1:34 pm plumpjack

        no ironsides, I don’t see a quick “solution” to any of the complex problems we’re facing. however, I think it’s a good idea to look past our own lifetimes. if the opening up of the flow of information continues at the same pace as it is now, then eventually things will shift power towards a meritocracy. but it’s going to take awhile, and of course there will be new obstacles to confront along the way, such as AI, robotics, bio-genetic engineering, etc.

        these days I’m trying to stay focused on the big picture. the biggest problem that needs solving is changing the narrative to accountability/meritocracy from the victimhood-worship one that has been keeping whites handicapped for the last 50 years. this is already happening, but it’s slow.

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 11:12 pm Captainchaos

        Ten thousand Timothy McVeigh’s would bring the system to a point of paralysis within 6 months. The ability of the White man to resist effectively isn’t lacking, only his courage to do so is.

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 8:32 am oink

        CAPTAINACHOS!

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 11:47 am vfm#7634

        “The Mexicans take over — as THEY WILL, SOON, because nobody is doing anything about it, not even ZOG Emperor Caracalla Trump”

        Actually… their momentum has stalled since the 2008 recession, and got a kick in the shorts last year (2017). Hispanic births came in the lowest since 2002, and Mexican births are most likely down to 1998 levels.

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  23. on May 19, 2018 at 10:06 pm Carlos Danger

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  24. on May 19, 2018 at 10:45 pm Carlos Danger

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  25. on May 19, 2018 at 11:06 pm Carlos Danger

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    • on May 20, 2018 at 1:30 pm Sentient

      Longbow stuff

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 11:23 am Carlos Danger

        Saracen= Turks= Mongols same group of tribes from central Asia. Very cool.

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  26. on May 19, 2018 at 11:08 pm Carlos Danger

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    • on May 20, 2018 at 6:35 am plumpjack

      very cool.

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    • on May 21, 2018 at 9:36 am Carlos Danger

      https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=JIy4NhAM&id=D9C0202DE39F51939520B553C67A3F3E57544331&thid=OIP.JIy4NhAMgZ2R1b-XrzazugHaFj&mediaurl=http%3a%2f%2f3.bp.blogspot.com%2f-KNxLFVKW5HI%2fUI04EjqJJwI%2fAAAAAAAACZ8%2f2lDtZMCitY8%2fs1600%2f002.JPG&exph=1200&expw=1600&q=hausser+elastolin+huns&simid=608045244030976092&selectedIndex=0&ajaxhist=0

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    • on May 21, 2018 at 9:37 am Carlos Danger

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  27. on May 20, 2018 at 11:02 am traitors first

    I pray the pigeon is right and that vd is right and that these idiots keep doubling down.

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  28. on May 20, 2018 at 12:48 pm traitors first

    http://voxday.blogspot.ca/2018/05/the-swamp-she-is-draining.html

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  29. on May 20, 2018 at 2:19 pm thordaddy

    Of course, one cannot contemplate the effects of “power” without conjuring up a personalized notion of omni-potence. And here is where all the faggots fall to one side and the genuine wS ipso facto transcends the mass sexual degeneracy. The faggot’s will (to) do anything is, quite predictably, his perverted notion of omni-potence. He who wins “game” makes ALL the RIGHT moves. “Moves” which are predicated on The Perfect Man. Otherwise understood as He who falsifies “universal equality” for all time. So Logic dictates an absolute anti-egalitarianism. In other words, Omni-potence is (P)erfection, ie., objective (S)upremacy. Ergo, “power” is wS in the context of modern white male..

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  30. on May 20, 2018 at 4:23 pm Oleaginous Outrager

    "The results showed that journalists' brains were operating at a lower level than the average population."

    Well we all knew that already, didn't need to waste grant money on the study.https://t.co/MhiUbvZP08

    — Tim Pool (@Timcast) May 20, 2018

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  31. on May 20, 2018 at 7:21 pm cortesar

    as expected lil’ disgusting ni66er is all over himself

    Al Sharpton: Royal wedding shows white male supremacy is "on its last breath" https://t.co/GthaDYxvWW pic.twitter.com/eyWKm86QZj

    — The Hill (@thehill) May 20, 2018

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    • on May 20, 2018 at 7:51 pm Sentient

      That was the whole point of this wedding. Surprised she isn’t wearing a burka.

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    • on May 20, 2018 at 7:56 pm Suburban_elk

      Al Sharpton has been drawing his own last breath for the last ten years.

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  32. on May 20, 2018 at 8:46 pm Captain Obvious

    Bernard Lewis, at age 101, finally ran out of virgin shegetz bl00d to keep himself alive. http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3656811/posts

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    • on May 20, 2018 at 8:47 pm Captain Obvious

      Jesus H Chr!st, these G0d-d@mned (((Lizard People))) live for-phucking-ever.

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  33. on May 20, 2018 at 9:03 pm cortesar

    also as we expected

    Macron receives the Charlemagne Prize. Also known as the Coudenhove-Kalergi prize.

    Really makes you think pic.twitter.com/3y4T6E1xJg

    — Tolerant Fellow (@thetolerantman) May 17, 2018

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    • on May 20, 2018 at 9:12 pm cortesar

      The first Charlemagne Prize was awarded to Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi, the founder of the Pan-European Movement.
      ————————————————————————–

      In his book «Praktischer Idealismus», Kalergi explains that the citizens of the future “United States of Europe” will not be the people of the Old Continent, but a new mixed breed, the products of thorough and widespread miscegenation. He states that the peoples of Europe should interbreed with Asians and other non-White races, to create a multiracial population, with not clear sense of tradition or identity and therefore easily controlled by the ruling elite.

      Kalergi proclaims the need to abolish the right of nations to self-determination and outlines the break-up of nation states through the use of ethnic separatist movements and the destruction of the nations themselves through mass migration. In order for Europe to be easily controlled by the future elite, Kalergi proposes the creation of a homogeneous mixed breed population, and as to who should be the new elite? Kalergi is particularly illuminating on this point:

      From Praktischer Idealismus
      ” The man of the future will be of mixed race. The races and classes of today will gradually disappear due to the elimination of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-negroid race of the future, similar in appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the current diversity of peoples and the diversity of individuals. Instead of destroying European Judaism, Europe, against her will, refined and educated this people, driving them to their future status as a leading nation through this artificial evolutionary process. It’s not surprising that the people that escaped from the Ghetto-Prison, became the spiritual nobility of Europe. Thus, the compassionate care given by Europe created a new breed of aristocrats. This happened when the European feudal aristocracy crashed because of the emancipation of the Jews [due to the actions taken by the French Revolution]”

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 9:13 pm cortesar

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 9:21 pm cortesar

        only in this context should the latest “royal” wedding be seen
        as an affront to European civilization and tradition, as an attack on beauty literally and metaphorically, as a part of the plan 100 years in making to destroy the civilization which created everything worthwhile on earth and as an ultimate revenge of jews against white man and his civilization

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 9:23 pm cortesar

        only in this context should the latest “royal” w_e_dd_ing be seen
        as an affront to European civilization and its tradition, as an attack on beauty literally and metaphorically, as a part of the plan 100 years in making to destroy the civilization which created everything worthwhile on earth and as an ultimate revenge of jews against white man and his civilization

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 9:31 pm cortesar

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 9:48 pm cortesar

        Lana presented this very well
        watch&share

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      • on May 20, 2018 at 10:45 pm cortesar

        and finally Traviata in a supermarket in Minsk
        as we said many times before, while the storm is raging while the darkness overwhelms our senses, beauty survives in most unlikely of places
        As it does so will our civilization

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 6:12 am oink

        cuckortesar, I remeber you as one of them atheist, Christ-bashing types.

        what part of the post-Christian motto of “L’impossible Ou La Mort” still beffudles you, muh apostate?

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 6:34 am oink

        also, if talking XIXth Europe, rather than “let’s get shitfaced” freemason-dago jingles, better the swan songs of the great European Music as exemplified by

        Hymne 1

        or

        Hymne 2

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 6:39 am oink

        .. in modhe|l (da*o tripped it I think),

        but that you poasted is indeed deli-musak

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 9:33 am cortesar

        soink lil cockroach what I do not understand is what insecticide use when dealing with the pest of your kind
        I could easily stamped you but what bout your lil brothers and sisters

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 9:54 am oink

        cuckortesar!

        poasting freemasonic d*go ditties as some sort of high fallutin’ art

        muh apostate!

        fear not, Jesus still loves you, and the Saints still pray for yer soul

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 10:05 am cortesar

        jesus still loves me
        omg is that right
        fu*ck you and f*uck your semitic sect cockroach

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 2:50 pm oink

        fu*ck you and f*uck your semitic sect cockroach

        poor cuckortesar, swallowing da*o.Joe Green’s freemason agitprop as some sort of “art”.

        Y’all westhajnalians really thought that the vineyard is going to remain yours; kill the SON, and you’re set for life!

        LoL,

        and here I thought ((frontrunners)) had a foolishly inflated sense of superiority!

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 2:59 pm oink

        whatever ((frontrunners)) can do, westhajnalians (wHjs) can do better!

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      • on May 22, 2018 at 6:56 am Big-Al

        Did he actually call them the spiritual nobility? Wow

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    • on May 21, 2018 at 11:11 am vfm#7634

      I’m a bit surprised considering he got in trouble for saying Africans have too many children.

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  34. on May 20, 2018 at 10:58 pm yewotm8

    I’ve long believed that approaching women in public, in situations where it doesn’t normally occur, is in itself attractive due to the balls it takes and the fact that it sets a man apart from the rest. The paper’s hypothesis is that it would be attractive because it’s something that only powerful individuals do, which is a similar concept.

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  35. on May 20, 2018 at 11:33 pm stu

    RED CHATEAU ALERT: the Grand Old Days

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/archives/may-mizzou-s-panty-raids-get-out-of-hand-the/collection_47206b6e-f118-582c-b94f-411669d47431.html

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  36. on May 21, 2018 at 4:24 am Jim Christian

    These women never found their alpha males, but you better get ready to hear the hamster wheel spin up to turbo-speeds. Under cover of each old chick that explains why she never married, fact is, no one wanted them anymore after they hit the wall. The excuses they blurt out are boilerplate for these types. I rarely feel sympathy for old slags, but they sure bought the feminist line. In their short time of beauty, each was at the top:

    http://www.hyperactivz.com/celebs-who-never-married?utm_source=Yahoo&utm_medium=NEWS_US&utm_campaign=Not%20Married%20V3%20T5%20HY1%20LiCe%20-%20Desktop%20USA%20YA

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  37. on May 21, 2018 at 5:40 am Straight

    http://fortune.com/2018/05/20/tinder-casual-sex-study/

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  38. on May 21, 2018 at 9:40 am fleezer

    “Betas are a means to others’ ends.”

    if you sell your labor to an employer you are a bitch

    potus may be vsg

    he works for us, but don’t take the token “salary”

    therefore, he don’t sell his labor to his employer

    he volunteers it

    BOSS

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    • on May 21, 2018 at 9:53 am plumpjack

      that’s an excellent point. “you couldn’t possibly afford what I’m worth so I’ll just go ahead at help you out at no cost, but you will owe me forever.”

      solid frame.

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 9:55 am plumpjack

        *and help you

        if it wasn’t for autocorrect I’d have a couple of blog commenter Pulitzers on my shelf by now

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      • on May 21, 2018 at 9:59 am Captain Obvious

        It isn’t solid frame, it’s THE ONLY FRAME.

        Newbies: This is some world class sh!znat here which Fleezer is promoting.

        Never allow yourself to become a cubicle-monkey wage-slave CUCK.

        When you’re an employee, with zero equity in the project at hand, The Man is metaphorically phucking you in your metaphorical @ss.

        No equity, no dice.

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  39. on May 21, 2018 at 11:14 am Waffles

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ppvewv/serial-killer-twitter-teenage-girl-fans

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    • on May 22, 2018 at 2:26 am oink

      The regrettable absence of shitlord dads.

      Fake it till u make it … if not for yourself, for your daughters!

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  40. on May 21, 2018 at 7:15 pm james

    Sad.

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  41. on May 22, 2018 at 4:04 pm Liz

    Trav777 the divorced dick said a girl deserved to be shot? You’re getting reported within an inch of the law.

    [CH: trav777 didn’t say that. btw your handle is unfamiliar. are you an insane feminist who just lurks here hoping against hope to catch that one commenter who crosses the line of propriety into a reportable offense?
    ps and i disagree with what trav777 wrote above. this greek 2nd gen immigrant kid has the look of a psychopath. i don’t doubt he’d be capable of autistically hitting on an uninterested girl over and over while never getting the message.]

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