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Sex-Based Status

June 4, 2018 by CH

Jordan Peterson had this to say about sex-differentiated status hierarchies:

Girls can win by winning in their own hierarchy—by being good at what girls value, as girls. They can add to this victory by winning in the boys’ hierarchy. Boys, however, can only win by winning in the male hierarchy. They will lose status, among girls and boys, by being good at what girls value. It costs them in reputation among the boys, and in attractiveness among the girls. Girls aren’t attracted to boys who are their friends, even though they might like them, whatever that means. They are attracted to boys who win status contests with other boys.

“whatever that means”. Heh. Shivvy way to say, “which means nothing”.

When JP discusses sex differences, he could be reading CH posts. Whatever one thinks of the criticisms leveled against him (some are valid), he does have a decent grasp of the sexual market and how men and women navigate divergent routes through an ocean of mate prospects to get what they want.

However, this is one of the rare instances when I disagree with his premise. He’s generally correct that, at least within the bounds of our current cultural arrangement, women have two status hierarchies available to them while men only have one. Our gynarcho-tyranny not only encourages but aggressively impresses upon women the urgency and even moral duty of succeeding in male domains (leaning in), while simultaneously encouraging men to sacrifice their status within their own male domains to make way for more women (and consequently rendering themselves less sexually attractive to women who are now their equal or higher in social status).

Women who do succeed in the man’s world can expect to ascend the intrafemale status ladder (more precisely, the intra-feminist status ladder), but where JP is wrong is assuming these women don’t also suffer an SMV status loss the near-equivalent of the SMV status loss suffered by men who succeed at girlie games of one-uppance.

Just as girls aren’t attracted to effeminate males, and other men are repulsed by nancyboys, the inverse is as true: men aren’t attracted to masculine, status-striving girls, and other women don’t subconsciously look up to mouthy careerist shrikes with the same mix of envy and admiration that they look up to physically beautiful women.

Ballcutters pay a romantic price for their aping of male characteristics and their chutzpah to take on the men in the male status domains. Yes, even the beautiful ballcutters pay the price, (there aren’t many, but stand by for the point of this hypothetical). Men will want to bang a hot babe whether she’s a coy waitress or a boardroom banshee, but men won’t be keen to emotionally betroth the latter. And in the landscape of a woman’s hindbrain, romantic success is measured by quality of vows, not number of plows. If a woman has a reserved seat on the cock carousel, she’s likely to have a tough time winning over the hearts of alpha men, which is a much more valuable prize to women than men’s dicks.

What always gets lost in these discussions of intersex status competitions is the relevant feedback loop and polarity amplifying magnetism that accompanies the dynamic when a demure, feminine women who #resists leaning in meets a dominant, masculine man who insists on leading quim. The protective instinct in men is strong, and only vulnerable women who haven’t achieved maximum economic self-sufficiency and aphoristic empowerment can trigger it. Thus, men appraise ladder-climbing manjaws with the same simmering disgust and antipathy that they feel towards effeminate soyboys.

A woman’s femininity and vulnerability arouses men and incites them to emotionally commit and fall in love (psychological states which can later be leveraged by women into stone cold legal binding). Girls who win in the men’s hierarchy will lose status — romantic and marriageable status — which they will #resist noticing because the here-and-now easy bangs with pump and dump looters (slooters?) cloud their judgment and long-term vision, hiding from girls the very real price they will pay down the road when those sexy alpha men are wifing up stay-at-home tradwives who have known no other Cock but his Cock.

I have to laugh at White Knights who think that women put themselves in a dangerous position by not pursuing a lucrative career and therefore making themselves dependent on a man with a plan. These numbnuts are oblivious, or act as if they are oblivious, to sexual energy and how it vibrates along different sex-based frequencies. Women who become like men in accomplishment, drive, temperament, and behavior become less like the women men truly desire. The paradox left unresolved in the minds of White Knight transactionalists is how the very act of embracing and cherishing her vulnerable femininity reduces a woman’s exposure to penury and abandonment. It’s no coincidence that the rise in the divorce rate, the decline in the rate of marriage, and the delay in age of first marriage all happened in lockstep with the increasing numbers of women marching into the domains of men.

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  1. on June 4, 2018 at 12:30 pm Captain Obvious

    Jordan Cuckterson: “[Girls] are attracted to boys who win status contests with other boys.”

    Epic Fail, JC.

    Females DO NOT KNOW [or even understand] what they are attracted to.

    They [and their Hamsters] are only capable of understanding what disgusts & repulses them.

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 12:41 pm Captain Obvious

      CH, May 29, 2018, ‘Once Again, ¡SCIENCE! Corroborates Dread Game’: “Women appraise the mate value of a man in large part by proxy; that is, how attractive he is to other women, particularly to other attractive women.”

      That’s about as close as a human female can come to semi-rationally semi-analyzing her attraction to a man: Does she have competition for him, and what is the quality of her competition?

      But can a woman tell you in the abstract what it is about any particular man that causes her v@g to moisten?

      He11 no.

      [PRO-TIP: As PJ and I were saying the other day, I doubt that men can analyze it, either. True Natural Chemistry is about as close to magic as any of us will experience in this life. Whereas Game is all about faking just enough True Natural Chemistry just long enough to get her to remove her panties.]

      [CH: a useful way to understand male vs female attraction mechanisms is to think of women needing a middleman (aka a proxy or a mirror reflecting social status as one would look at a solar eclipse through a special lens rather than directly). women’s attraction triggers generally (though not entirely) rely on these sorts of social middlemen to assess a particular man’s mate worth. for instance, a woman sees a man admired by other men, and she is aroused by that man. in contrast, men assess women’s attractiveness directly, by looking at her face and body.]

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 12:59 pm Captain Obvious

        I don’t mean to push the conversation back to that quarrel which Wild Man & I were having a few days ago, but woman simply cannot understand a man’s True Strengths.

        Your Strengths live in That Dark Place where women dare not look.

        It’s only your weaknesses which a woman & her Hamster can analyze, and my G0d will they unload a PhD-level dissertation on you concerning all of your myriad shortcomings.

        But it terms of pure, raw, uncontrollable pr0creative passion? Women don’t have any earthly clue why they experience it, or what might trigger it.

        Although they [& their Hamsters] sit around all day long [each & every day] fantasizing about the possibility of it.

        “Game” [or at least Game Theory 101, “Introduction to The Hunt”] is all about polishing up on those little je-ne-sais-quois tells which signal subliminally to a chick’s Hamster that you are worth losing control over and experiencing a proper v@g moistening for.

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 1:14 pm Captain Obvious

        CH: “women’s attraction triggers generally (though not entirely) rely on these sorts of social middlemen to assess a particular man’s mate worth”

        You know, if that’s true, then what does it say for White evolutionary prospects when (((The Tribe))) controls all of the online dating sites – from Match to Facebook to Snapchat to Tinder?

        How long will it be until the Frankfurt School starts working behind the scenes to look for digital signatures of Chaddish behavior amongst White guys and then starts “shadow banning” Chads in an attempt to further weaken the White genepool and encourage ever-increasing man-boobery and soi-boy-ism in Our pr0geny?

        The Frankfurt School could do vastly moar damage to the successor generations to Zyklon simply by fiddling with (((the dating sites))) and meta-statistically screwing up the kinds of guys who are seen as being sexy-sexy-sexy on those (((sites))) than they could ever hope to achieve via intellectual indoctrination in (((the Schuls))).

        PS: And of course they could fiddle with the algorithms and the shadow-bannings, and make the muddish/gr0idish thugs look even sexy-sexy-sexier to the White girls, so that we get even moar melungeon abominations like Barry Soebarkah.

        PPS: I guess an early tell will be the extent to which The Frankfurt School has success with this campaign to cast a muddish/gr0idish male as the husb@nd of every White woman in a television commercial these days.

        PPPS: I hope it’s not true – I hope v@g moistening is determined by something a whole lot moar instrinsic & instinctual than mere social middlemen.

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 1:37 pm plumpjack

        “How long will it be until the Frankfurt School starts working behind the scenes to look for digital signatures of Chaddish behavior amongst White guys and then starts “shadow banning” Chads in an attempt to further weaken the White genepool and encourage ever-increasing man-boobery and soi-boy-ism in Our pr0geny?”

        “weaken the white gene pool” or accelerate the culling of the weak and inadvertantly trigger the mother of all bad-white backlashes?

        the more things change the more the Red Queen stays the same.

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 2:06 pm Captain Obvious

        PJ, I was thinking about it some moar.

        If (((they))) shadow-ban the White chads on the dating sites, then (((they))) would be encouraging K-Selection [1-Man/1-Woman], which would tend to strengthen the White genepool [or at least classically it strengthened the White genepool].

        Whereas if (((they))) promote White chads on the dating sites, then they would be encouraging R-Selection [polygamy], which would cause White bloodlines to deteriorate over the long haul.

        This evolutionary sh!znat is muy complicated.

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 2:22 pm PA

        Interesting paths are taken when PJ and CO go in an unexplored direction.

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      • on June 5, 2018 at 11:06 am Reinald Vallejo

        As CH, put it the “proxy” is everything to women. That is why game is so effective. Even muscles are a mirror. Think about it. Power itself is also full of illusions. And so is money in general and even money itself, fiat or otherwise.

        Female sexuality and its psychology IS The Matrix.

        Someone with more energy for this could flesh this out for you more, but oh yeah, one did and you ran him off. His name was not Jesus. His name was YaReally. Lel.

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    • on June 7, 2018 at 11:26 am Mr.Correcto

      Captain “I need a Canadian professor to agree and spread my white nationalist ideology because I’m too much of a b!tch to go out in public and do it myself” Obvious.

      Not saying that him not acknowledging that whites are being attacked in the west is right of him to do. However, i noticed that the people who criticize him for not being vocal, or agreeing about white identity do not themselves go out there, make youtube videos, or do anything publicly to help whites.

      When was the last time you or any white person here donated to a charity dedicated to helping whites in poor areas? have you volunteered your time in the poor, rural downtrodden areas of the united states where poor whites are populous?

      What you and a majority of the alt-right fail to understand is that once you publicly show yourself to be a “white identitarian” its game over for your life/livelihood. You will never be employed anywhere respectable and you will be hunted by the globohomo establishment. Richard Spencer seldom makes talks anymore, James Allsup is only kidding himself if he thinks he will keep the seat he got in his homestate, and every other alt-righter is hiding in their basement.

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  2. on June 4, 2018 at 12:34 pm LB

    Oh, how I wish I could have said, “Lose 30 pounds instead of get that grad degree,” to a dozen women I know. They would’ve been far better off slender and with a quality man, than slaving away at some shitlib non-profit for Afrikiddies while alone at home with their cats.

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 12:40 pm Hackett To Bits

      There were a herd of them – future careerists judging from what they were taking about – at the local trendoid mega tattoo shop that I passed by. All fat and used up by their early twenties. F-in’ shame…

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 12:43 pm Captain Obvious

        Any White F@ther who allows his daughter to go on to (((Graduate Schul))) rather than push out White Grandch!ldren for him should tie some rope around his neck and go h@ng himself in his closet.

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  3. on June 4, 2018 at 12:44 pm mendo

    On the topic of women doing manly things to impress men: old buddy of mine’s gf (now wife) was talking about how she bought some sporty, compact convertible and some black bus driver tossed her his phone number on a piece of paper. She was upset because while she bought the car to meet men, old dindu driver wasn’t what she was expecting.

    Long before the RP, I thought something, nay, I knew something was wrong with a woman trying to do things men do to attract women to attract men.

    [CH: a chick i used to date bought herself a fancy sports car while we were seeing each other. she showed that car off to me thinking i would be impressed, but all i was thinking was when we were gonna bang in that car. and that’s what i said when she asked me what i thought. she seemed miffed (later muffed).]

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 12:49 pm Captain Obvious

      “things men do to attract women”

      Stay in school until your mid-30s.

      Get a career.

      Lift weights.

      Get a tat.

      Keep a hunting dawg [canine] on the premises.

      Party all the time.

      Drink too much and eat too much.

      Sounds like your lonely spinster mid-30s you-go-grrlll careerist shrike who’s about to slam into The Wall at 200mph.

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 12:50 pm Captain Obvious

        Ph0rnicate too much.

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 2:01 pm Captain Obvious

        Purchase 4000 lb SUVs and shove the pedal to the metal.

        All while navigating rush hour traffic & multitasking with the iPhag txts.

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 2:31 pm HoneyBear

        Postmodern females display a peacock’s tail of repugnant features. Adorned in male sexual markers, they’re a female analog of trannies. Sheacocks 😦 ? A disturbing aura: this creature is not what nature intended. Careerism is one of her foulest feathers.

        If a female is a “professional”, her name is instantly scratched off Santa’s relationship list. In lieu of a prince, her stockings receive a subscription to Sassycat’s kitty litter and wine cooler of the month club.

        On the energy/chemistry level, competing with a female over career status is a complete turn-off. It’s a male-male energy, instead of male-female. As a practical matter, it’s unacceptable that a man’s children compete with her job for her attention. Furthermore, she’s probably a feminist/libtraitor, so she’ll actively poison her childrens’ minds. An all around no-go.

        Women have worked since the dawn of man. But they naturally understood that a woman’s most important jobs are being a mother and a virgin bride. Along came a (((spider))).

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 3:19 pm Les Saunders, Protestant

        Putting the iPhag on speaker phone and holding it like a walkie talkie, barking orders into it while driving the suv and the chocolate lab sits in the passenger seat. Starcucks detritus littering the car, low end thoughts littering her mind.

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 8:02 pm melmoth

        They lift weights?

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  4. on June 4, 2018 at 12:49 pm Sex-Based Status | @the_arv

    […] Sex-Based Status […]

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  5. on June 4, 2018 at 12:50 pm oliver elkington

    It is true that men generally do not care about the status of women when choosing them for marriage or dating, what makes women, especially high achieving women think they have a shot with a high status man is the fact that many high status men marry and date women who are also high earning, high achieving. Think Harry and Meghan Markle, David and Victoria Beckham, George Clooney and his lawyer wife or Simon Cowell and Sarah Silverman the comediennes sister. While these men are I am sure probably dating young waitresses and College students the fact that they are seen with high status women makes women in high status professions think they have a shot with the most desirable males.

    [CH: keep in mind a female lawyer is gonna be much lower status than a male celebrity. relative SMV matters. also, at the extremes of male status, where social expectation and appearances play a huge role in whom an hsmv man chooses to be the public face of his (usually) phony monogamous signaling to the plebs, well-to-do accomplished women can punch above their weight. That doesn’t mean her hsmv hubby isn’t gonna have a veritable harem of mistresses.]

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 1:22 pm Captain Obvious

      Harry and Meghan Markle: 0 ch!ldren so far

      (((Simon Cowell & Lauren Silverman))): 1 s0n so far

      David & Victoria Beckham: 4 ch!ldren so far

      George & Amal Clooney: 2 ch!ldren [boy & girl, fraternal twins, probably due to artificial insemination]

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 1:29 pm Craig

      Dude, all the women you listed are trans. That’s right, all celebrity men are where they are because they love T-girl dick and worship satan. If you’ve ever seen Eyes Wide Shut, it’s like that times 10k.

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 3:24 pm Les Saunders, Protestant

      I used to hang out with and bang a girl who was an Olympic gold medallist hockey player. If she were a guy, she’d be massively high status pulling in 9s and 10s, but since she’s a woman she couldn’t attract top tier hockey player guys but rather civilians like me.

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 3:28 pm Captain Obvious

        Dude. Bunz -> 0ven.

        Your ch!llunzzzezzezes by her could get (((NCAA Div I))) athletic schollies.

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 3:32 pm Les Saunders, Protestant

        She’s moastly lesbian and I think she’s off guys, but she would still bang whenever I dialled her up. Very high T. She would text and invite me over to watch p0rn. I did mention she’s a hockey player, non?

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 3:50 pm purpledragon187productions

        Are you saying you’re not a high-quality man? Don’t sell yourself short.

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 7:31 pm Captain Obvious

        You were banging a White woman who won a friggin GOLD MEDAL AT THE OLYMPICS and you didn’t put White Bunz -> White Oven?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 8:07 pm Les Saunders, Protestant

        Cap, maybe you have a point.
        But she was absolutely terrified of getting knocked up, even with a condom on she mandated a pullout. She loved getting ploughed by me, but didn’t want keeds.
        Gold medal for a team sport, not individual, so not as impressive as it sounds.

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 3:33 pm Major7

      George Clooney marrying a lawyer has got to be a world record in the Guinness Book of Retards

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 5:09 pm Vigilantichrist

        Watch: clooney will run for office within 2 yeads. The woman was chosen because she checks the right boxes for his aspirations: feminist, I assume she is mo$lem, etc.

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      • on June 5, 2018 at 7:10 am Major7

        Aahhh, that makes sense.

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      • on June 5, 2018 at 11:17 am Reinald Vallejo

        Clooney is a fucking genius then.

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 4:27 pm purpledragon187productions

      By the way, “liking” a comment and “liking” CH’s response to it are often two different things. The reader should not mistake the former for the latter. (Sometimes I wonder if CH intends that the reader be thus confused.)

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 6:21 pm Red

      Clooney is a closet fat

      Harry has mommy issues

      Beckham is a beta

      I don’t know who the fuck Simon Cowell is but he is probably ((())) or blind to have fucked (((Silverman))) in the first place

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  6. on June 4, 2018 at 12:57 pm George

    Meanwhile, the leading liberal communist rag recommends boys and girls swap traditional male/female chores: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/01/well/family/metoo-sons-sexual-harassment-parenting-boys.html

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 3:50 pm Andy CoCo D'Or

      Or the one linked at the bottom, ya’ll

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  7. on June 4, 2018 at 1:01 pm Amon Ra

    ” They are attracted to boys who win status contests with other boys. ”

    The ultimate contest = To crush your enemies in battle, both figuratively / and metaphorically. Sadly, the white men is not doing much of either right now.

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 1:24 pm Captain Obvious

      It is absolutely FALSE that girls are attracted to boys who win status contests with other boys.

      If so, then Bill Gates & Mark Phuckerberg would be walking around with HB10s on their arms.

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 1:36 pm The Ghost of Greg Eliot

        Agreed. Women may pair with these men for status but they certainly aren’t attracted to them.

        [CH: i wouldn’t be so quick to assume that. women are attracted to powerful men. the reaction women feel in the presence of a powerful man is like the reaction men feel in the presence of a playboy centerfold. the lizard brain takes over.]

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 1:39 pm Amon Ra

        They actually could, if they really wanted to. However, they are so Betafied , that the though wont even cross their minds. Pathetic loser cucks supported by CIA and Yid funding, they are.

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 2:45 pm fleezer

        “Mark Phuckerberg”

        that video of him showing the inside of his hoodie to the crowd…

        “i’m human” or whatever he says…

        he may not have a dick

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 3:51 pm Andy CoCo D'Or

        Cuckersperg could have any chick he wanted actually.. too bad he’s a complete nerdoid dweeby chode inside, so he ended up with that very average-looking Chinese chick instead

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  8. on June 4, 2018 at 1:19 pm Amon Ra

    Social engineering the next batch of faggots.

    – No shorts please, we’re British: Oxford school tells boys to wear skirts if it’s too hot for pants –

    https://www.rt.com/uk/428678-gender-neutral-uniform-skirts/

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  9. on June 4, 2018 at 1:20 pm williamk

    When a girl starts bragging on her status I ask her “Whats ten to the third power?”. Not a single girl yet has gotten the right answer. Fifth grade math neg. You don’t ever tell her the right answer, you just smirk and say “No” when she guesses wrong.

    [CH: if she answered “a new indie band” i might have to give her points for cheerful femaleness.]

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 1:33 pm mendo

      hahaha….ten to the third power. . . . .HAHAHA

      What a grand question!

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  10. on June 4, 2018 at 1:27 pm Screwtape

    Another differentiation. Male status hits for crossing into femcategories are all fair game, overt. Nobody is compelled to value male achievement in the feminine realm. Quite the opposite; open ridicule is expected and normalized.

    Females operating in male hierarchies, however, are protected from overt ridicule or disdain. Hell even indifference to them is a crime.

    These women who trespass are not valued by individual men sure enough, but this must be covert.

    Men are compelled to celebrate the fiat status of women in male spheres and champion the various accolades of manjaw invaders or else misogyny.

    So female delusions and their embodiment of projections can continue unimpeded by the truth that most men are repulsed. And the rags can drone on about men “intimidated” be female achievement.

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 3:33 pm pozymandias

      “Females operating in male hierarchies…”. I think about this sometimes and ask myself “what keeps them there?”. It’s usually not competency or effectiveness or intelligence though there are a few stellar exceptions. This is especially the case nowadays as so many institutions have entire departments basically devoted to forcing women (and other kinds of enforced diversity) to occupy certain fixed fractions of spots in the hierarchy. The answer I think you can offer with a high degree of certainty is “a whole lot of energy”. What I’m getting at is that the presence of large numbers of women in our hierarchies is opposed massively by every known “restorative force” in the human psyche. There is an analog in physics for this known as the “population inversion”. It’s how lasers work. You drive a large number of atoms into an unstable, high energy configuration. Essentially the population is inverted from its normal configuration of large numbers of low energy atoms and a few high energy ones. The laser fires when the inversion collapses with a cascading positive feedback as the atoms that drop back to ground state emit photons that in turn cause other atoms to take the hint and drop back as well. So I think it’s instructive to ask 2 questions actually.

      1. What energy maintains the inversion?
      2. What happens when it collapses? If it’s as rapid as what happens in lasers things could get interesting.

      I have some ideas on both of these but I think I’ll leave this out there and see what others think for now.

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  11. on June 4, 2018 at 1:38 pm Dread Forman

    For all his faults, Greg Eliot (may God rest his soul), understood this concept.

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 2:57 pm Greg Eliot

      Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated…

      … as have the alleged “faults” of my erstwhile posting life.

      The insipid straw lances of my detractors were to be expected…

      … but most of youse other yeggs… you fair-weather chow hounds… proved to have the selective reading comprehension of elementary schoolers and attention spans somewhat inferior to that of the common house fly, judging by the weird interpretations I’ve seen in re the result of my SELF-CHOSEN hiatus, which was made in no uncertain terms at the time…

      … and the other half of you fairies couldn’t lie straight in your beds.

      In the future I may deign to lay a bit of Scriptural wisdom on the chateau from time to time… more for the sake of my own karma, rather than the annoyance it brings to the usual suspect swine.

      An alternative may be the infliction of a pun or two at times a propos… again, strictly for mine own amusement.

      I now return you to your loved Egyptian night.

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 3:16 pm FastEddie

        He returns!

        Glad to see you back.

        FE

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 3:25 pm Captain Obvious

        “the selective reading comprehension of elementary schoolers and attention spans somewhat inferior to that of the common house fly”

        Oh he11 yes.

        [That’s called agree & amplify.]

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 5:17 pm traitors first

        Hey guys, Greg Eliot is back
        let’s all give him a welcome back, amirite

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 6:11 pm mendo

        Alright. I’m with you fellers.

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  12. on June 4, 2018 at 1:55 pm elooie

    All the best lays work in the service industry.

    I’ve had “successful” women ask me if it bothers me that a lot of the women I sleep with don’t have money. All I say is “Why do I care about how much money they have. I have plenty.”

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 4:32 pm Jay in DC

      “I’ve had “successful” women ask me if it bothers me that a lot of the women I sleep with don’t have money.”

      This right here shows how utterly and completely disconnected from objective reality you average Western broad is. They simply and truly do NOT get it. 18 yo pussy is always, 100 percent of the time, more valuable than million dollar 60 yo pussy. What’s so hard to fathom cat lady?

      p.s. stop poasting and go clean your fuckin’ room CH! (*hat tip JP*)

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      • on June 5, 2018 at 6:01 am jim christian

        Hey, Jay, don’t knock the older chicks with money. Around here, all the women have a Master’s in name-the-ez-creds from Diploma-Mill Uni. I’m 61, the older I get, the more of them there are because the men at this stage are pretty lame. I have plenty of dough, but these women age 48-57 (chicks of the last year or so, but always, really) break out AMEX routinely. They’re great dancers, they buy nice watches for gifts, they pick up checks, they book reservations in the places we land out on the bike. They want to go see Boston Pops or the symphony, they order the tix to will call. I happily put on a coat and tie and go, it’s on them. I pick up parking and intermission cocktails. The older I get, the more money these broads have. Got one now that plays golf, she picks up green fees. Fun, for awhile. And, as long as they’re skinny, you can go with what they bring.

        When you young men reach my age, adjust the expectations. For a month or two with such critters, things are a-ok, but it always fades and fast because sooner or later, they always want to dictate terms, always gotta be Boss (“aren’t you getting to be too old for motorcycles?”). In the end, while the recriminations are flowing (trying not to be too hateful), I ask them the magic question: “Are you worried that your Master’s makes your ass look fat?”, or I offer: “Yes, your AMEX card definitely makes your ass look fat”. If they insist on the truth, I always have an answer.

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  13. on June 4, 2018 at 2:38 pm pozymandias

    A few years ago I drove around California and stopped to visit a few Facebook “friends” I had never met in person but had interacted quite a bit on Zuckerbook with. It was a whole little crew of people, now in their late 30s – late 40s who had all gone to the same high school. They currently all lived in a very rural part of Cali that you can reach only by driving some pretty terrifying mountain roads. The one I knew best from this group was an aging beauty [see note below] with a couple teenage daughters who had inherited some land that she pretended to farm while working a retail job in the nearest town. She had gone to grad school though and was quite a feminist banshee and ballcutter. She wasn’t “successful” except in that she was sitting on several million dollars of prime development land but she had clearly internalized the mentality of the career shrike and was sending her daughters off to become “strong independent wammen” with male type success criteria. Her failure at more conventional “career” type success might also have been due to the fact that she was a drinker – a heavy drinker but one of those “functional alcoholics” you hear about. She was smart too and may simply have decided not to attempt a job where showing up a little drunk wasn’t OK – and after all she had the land.

    Her husband was a very successful computer guy who drove into the nearest city (over 50 miles each way) every day and spent about 12-14 hours a day in town. One day she was especially drunk and was feuding more than usual with her neighbor whom she portrayed on FB as an amalgam of Satan, Hitler, and the way SJWs now think about Trump. The husband pulled me aside and quietly told me that there’s really nothing wrong with the neighbor and that she’s basically just crazy. He also confided in me that he didn’t really buy into all of her political SJW causes and feminist shit either. On top of that he wasn’t even around much… On one occasion I observed her get up from a gathering where she and everyone else had been smoking weed and drinking beer. She got in her truck, finished her beer and tossed the empty in the “recycle bin” (the bed of the pickup). She then sped off down the same winding and terrifying road you had to use to get anywhere from there…

    What’s my point? It’s always a good idea to ask “what’s the other part?” whenever you see what looks like a power-couple of alpha male and ballcutter female. The reality of this odd pair is that I’m almost certain that he was just waiting for her to drunk-drive off a cliff so he could sell the farm and move to town. On the surface though they were a modern couple who would earn the SJW good housekeeping badge if there was one. Then of course he also had basically a whole second life in town and wasn’t a bad looking guy either if you know what I mean.

    After refreshing the page I now see that CH has pretty much covered this type of formation in his comment about the “public face of his (usually) phony monogamous signaling to the plebs”. I concur. I’ve seen this dynamic many times. Whenever you see a couple presented as a shining example of modern “enlightened” SJW partnership, look for “the other part”. House-husband who delights in cooking and cleaning? More like gay husband, etc…

    [Note: my FB friend was like so many feminist women I’ve met in that, while hating men for “objectifying” women, also liked to post pics from 10-15 years ago of herself wearing skimpy outfits. In fact, before I knew she was married I chatted her up because I thought she was a young, hot, bangable sloot. More of that “do as I say, not as I do” thing that seems to come naturally to wammen.

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 6:18 pm purpledragon187productions

      Why were these people your “friends”?
      (At least, after you knew she was off the market? Were you hoping to be her “side action”?)

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 6:42 pm pozymandias

        Oh I was driving through that area and knew they lived there so I stopped and stayed with them for a few days – cheaper than Holiday Inn anyway and they had a nice big place up on a hill. I wasn’t interested in the woman after I figured out her situation but she did have some friends…

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      • on June 5, 2018 at 6:33 am jim christian

        No kiddin, 187. Driving around meeting FB friends. If they go back to High School friends, or work or some normal human connection, I might do that. I actually don’t, but it crosses my mind when I’m passing through DC but I usually don’t. If they were so wonderful in DC, I wouldn’t have moved to Boston, heh.. Meeting a FB friend that’s purely FB is really strange, lonely behavior. Ah well, whatever gets the meat marinated.

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  14. on June 4, 2018 at 2:51 pm Jonathan Castle

    To what extent does female participation in a formerly exclusive male status hierarchy nullify it for that purpose?

    I think a lot, at least in the eyes of men.

    Women may think their intrusion in male spaces doesn’t effect the process and outcomes, but surely it does.

    The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle applied to male behavior…

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 3:23 pm Captain Obvious

      I know a female physician, who is a prominent researcher in a medical skrewl, who says that once women achieve critical mass in a medical or surgical specialty, no boys want to do residencies in it anymoar.

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      • on June 5, 2018 at 6:41 am jim christian

        CO, my primary care is a woman. Skinny, she and her hubby are a power medical couple in the region, nuff said. Back in college, and in a prominent medical group up here now, when it’s 75% female, in any situation, SHE can’t take it, let alone men. Women scheme, they lie, there’s no such thing as keeping your word, or honor, or truth. Scheming to ‘get ahead’ is all. You can always tell toxic, the tension in the building is palpable. Truly a relief to land on a construction site once in awhile. What goes on in offices is so unproductive and wasteful owing to EEOC it’s hideous. Construction is pure merit. You’re good enough or you’re gone. It is the EEOC road that is ruining us now. We are well on our way with this decline. Post-Obama America is a very, very different place from Pre-Obama.

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 3:38 pm elooie

      I think this a very interesting perspective and something worth a deeper look.

      Women seem to be constantly invading male spaces whether it’s a department at work or a core group of guy friends where the new GF wants to be involved. I’ve noticed either the men move teams / leave the company or that group of guy friends temporarily suspend the group then slowly reform it later without the GF included.

      Men seem to be fairly comfortable making new spaces while women would rather inhabit an existing space.

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      • on June 4, 2018 at 4:50 pm mendo

        It’s like a post not too long ago where CH essentially said if not for men, women wouldn’t know what to do or their place in the world.

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      • on June 5, 2018 at 6:45 am jim christian

        Invade, schmade. Men included them, but with all the sexual nonsense, they blew it for mentoring, inclusion to the “Club”, or memberships to professional orgs, No one is going to risk any contact with women. #metoo got a very few chicks a check and some attention, but relative to the tens of millions of women damaged going forward, there is real destruction going on, serious damage to the workforce. Where MEN work, it’s team. Where women work, there are knives in every back.

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 3:50 pm williamk

      This touches on something I’ve been thinking about. When you let girls in a male hierarchy space, the hierarchy becomes only about getting girls. Cooperation, respect for the process, deference to authority all falls off a cliff. The men try to fuck the girls, and that’s about all that happens.

      Sexual market is great and all but if you want to get a hierarchical group of men all focused on accomplishing something, you really can’t have attractive girls around.

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      • on June 5, 2018 at 4:36 pm Oleaginous Outrager

        The men try to fuck the girls, and that’s about all that happens.

        And often go about attempting to do so in the stupidest way possible : White Knighting. If you wish to observe this phenomenon in its purest form, it’s easy to find, just observe any co-ed contact sports.

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  15. on June 4, 2018 at 4:27 pm Sex-Based Status | Reaction Times

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  16. on June 4, 2018 at 4:31 pm Futureman

    is there any way to cure a chick with the mind virus? I don’t think there is and it is starting to bother me that I can fuck 8 and 9s all day long but none are wife material. I’ve learned a ton from this blog but this would be the ultimate gem.

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 4:49 pm mendo

      This has been debated for some time, with it picking up steam in the comments section the past several weeks.

      The only cure is not really a cure, since what’s damaged is damaged, but the only way to minimize this is to go back to the patriarchy. Christian patriarchy with Jesus at the helm.

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 6:14 pm FastEddie

      Complicated question, but you’ve arrived now that you realize banging hot broads is not an accomplishment. Plenty of guys beneath you have already been there and plenty more will be there after you’ve moved on.

      Broads are glasses of water that revert to room temperature, so you’re really asking how we change the entire culture to check their essential nature.

      Mendo certainly nails part of it. From a secular view I’d say:

      -Make White Guys Great Again (improve your product, get in shape, earn dough, develop real interests.)

      – Once White guys have status again, socially ostracize any women who are drugged up, single moms, or mud sharks. By extension, consign them to living in the blackie part of town, attending blackie events, etc. This ensures they self-select for extinction and stops the disease from becoming a plague.

      – Build parallel institutions to reinforce these values.

      – Do a little dance and pound some Scotch because we’ve achieved complete victory.

      In bad news, this will take about 50 years. Just ask the jooz. They’ve been at it since Marchin’ Lootin’ Kangin’ in the 60’s.

      All the same, I am glad you’re all my bros.

      FE

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 7:24 pm Captain Obvious

      You’re a man.

      Men lead. Women follow.

      Be her leader.

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 8:06 pm plumpjack

      within the confines of the current legal system, no, there isn’t much you can do other than carefully selecting the rare good woman who was somehow spared or immune to the poz.

      the system was designed that way intentionally, to punish those who challenge it. so even though they are literally begging to be tamed, are literally screaming to be liberated them from their collective living hell of female “liberation”, we couldn’t do what it would take without putting ourselves at the mercy of the gynocracy. again, designed that way. sure, there is game, but what good is game if a single application of his pimp hand can land a guy in the slammer?

      maybe 5-10 years from now, when the present “female empowerment” narrative has been fully exposed as a fraud, women will see that they have been misled in the most sinister, evil possible way and they will be open to making better choices. but first we have to survive the Cat Lady Winter. it’s coming.

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    • on June 5, 2018 at 6:48 am jim christian

      Why would she take the cure? You can’t change a damaged mind. Plus, never mind 8s and 9s, chicks from 4 on up get enormous privilege from men. Until the looks fade and no one notices them anymore, they’re getting exactly what they want as 8s and 9s. They are our royalty.

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  17. on June 4, 2018 at 4:45 pm Soprano


    Be OG, simple as that

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  18. on June 4, 2018 at 5:05 pm Sean Fielding

    Indeed Peterson fails Sexual Calculus 101: he does not understand that Male Commitment is to women what Female Beauty is to men. (Unfortunately for women, what we can do with a 0-10 scale in a quarter-second is far more complicated for them, but that doesn’t change the essential equivalency.)

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    • on June 4, 2018 at 6:14 pm mendo

      Nice!

      There is profundity in the 0-10 scale.

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  19. on June 5, 2018 at 6:24 am SB71

    ” … White Knights who think that women put themselves in a dangerous position by not pursuing a lucrative career and therefore making themselves dependent on a man with a plan.”

    Couldn’t have said it better myself. Often though it’s women giving girls the same terrible advice. My mother and sister turned my niece into a Grrrllpower warrior when she was young.

    Now she’s 28, in a good job, but with no serious male suitors and, sad to say, few of the charms a strong man is looking for (modesty, good cooking skills, a little conversational savvy.) That’s despite her being blonde, thin and pretty.

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  20. on June 5, 2018 at 7:32 am bigjohn33

    I took the family to the pool the other day and was watching the little ones in the baby pool and a pretty lifeguard sat down next to me and talked to me for a bit. (Perhaps CH could do a bit like Holding Your Aryan Infant In Public Game).

    She just graduated HS and was planning on going to school to be a dentist or something. It was sad. She didn’t strike me as particularly bright but she had high hopes of attending many years of schooling and a having career. And you could see the writing on the wall.

    She’s gonna borrow a bunch of money to go to school so she can get a job, then get a job she doesn’t like so she can pay back her debt from school. Then if she ever finally gets out of debt and is ready to settle down she’ll be old and unattractive and living with cats. So she’ll save a bunch of money in a retirement plan so she can quit her shitty job. Then she’ll die and name her cats as beneficiaries of her estate. That is the recommended career path for young women.

    I told her, “you know you could skip all that and have a bunch of babies”.

    Her: “I definitely want a family… eventually.”

    Fuckin a.

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    • on June 5, 2018 at 4:43 pm Oleaginous Outrager

      We missed a chance in 2008-9 to eviscerate all those useless make-work “service” jobs that are totally reliant on debt financing to exist. Indeed, the commifeminists managed to get even more money shoveled their way while crowing about how their “jobs” weren’t affected, only dirty man work.

      Of course, it’s probably wishful thinking to believe careerist shrikes would learn the lesson so many men have already accepted as gospel: the idea of a “career” is deader than disco. We’re all “human resources” now, and we can be dispensed with whenever the bottom line is threatened.

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      • on June 8, 2018 at 9:58 am Carlos Danger

        Obama did that on purpose. He wanted to screw all those burly white men over in favor of his voting base and to accelerate social destruction. People are naïve to assume he was trying to good and failed. He was intentionally doing evil.

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    • on June 8, 2018 at 9:50 am Carlos Danger

      Eventually is waaay too late would be my retort.

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  21. on June 8, 2018 at 9:34 am Jay Hansen

    But girls ARE attracted to effeminate males – if it is in the sexy dandy way, and not the boring soyboy way

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  22. on June 10, 2018 at 11:09 pm DeNihilist

    Allow a man with power, looks, and money, explain why he is still a betamax.

    All betamax’s can learn so much about wimminz from this –

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