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The Days Before

June 20, 2018 by CH

What they took from us, or what we foolishly surrendered? The answer is both.

The question now is, can we get it back? The hour is late and our enemies are full of hate. But so are we. And that will make all the difference.

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  1. on June 20, 2018 at 9:24 pm Carlos Danger

    We shall take it backl

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 6:09 am Jim Christian

      We ain’t taking anything back. Not until you return the Divorce Model back to “Show Fault” instead of No Fault. If you incentivize the women to divorce, 40 years of history shows that they will. In the above picture, that era, they would tattoo a Scarlet A on the woman if she cheated. She would get nothing if she initiated with no actual Cause. Not Haaaaapy wasn’t good enough. They knew if they let the women walk away with everything to pursue a cock (or many) they would. There was an element of shame, too. Those days are over and they aren’t coming back. Also, the woman work, they don’t NEED a man, although a man always owns the company she works for. Hilarious.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 8:24 am trav777

        100% right but we got there thru their vote and political power.

        They changed the laws.

        A m@rr!ge in the USA is a naked short on your life. Unlimited loss risk in exchange for…her vagina until she decides no longer to give it to you.

        Ironically in law you have a tort claim “loss of consortium” where spouses can sue for the loss of sex and affection as a result of a tort by a third party against their spouse. But yet you have NO FUCKIN RIGHT you misogynist bigot to any sex if you ARE the spouse and she says “no.” Which she can at any point without consequence.

        She can exercise that ITM call on your life at any point too and vaporize whatever you’ve been building for however long you’ve been building it. In 1L contracts we would call this situation “illusory” or “gratuitous,” therefore unenforceable. Yet don’t tell a family court judge that lol

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 8:35 am Jay in DC

        Preach it brotha. You can say what you want about Muzz, but they 100% KNOW the true nature of wahmen. They keep their bitches in line and of course the more “progressive” muzz bitches are whining about it. Because all wahmen want to cock carousel, it is their hindbrain genetic program.

        Historically the same patriarchy that built civilization also knew damn well wahmen are slightly larger children with tits, and acted appropriately. We lost the plot in the 20th century.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 11:45 am traitors first

        @Jim Christian
        I agree with you. One question though, how is it No Fault Divorce when one party has to pay the other party money. In any other contractual agreement the one that pays is the one that is at fault, so how can it be No Fault, I mean I understand that is what it’s called but just because it’s called that doesn’t make it so.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 12:22 pm Based Papist

        This is retarded defeatism. “Don’t even try my Goys. The system is rigged against us. Best to retreat into vidja and porn.”

        The Amish are successfully able to live the lives and attitudes of the 1820s despite all the laws.

        You can manage, if you want to, to live the lifestyle of the 1950s.

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  2. on June 20, 2018 at 9:24 pm Carlos Danger

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  3. on June 20, 2018 at 9:24 pm stg58animalmother

    We will. By Grabthar’s Hammer, we will!

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  4. on June 20, 2018 at 9:29 pm PA

    If it comes to a MAGA vs Hillary Archipelago civil war, it might well be the first war in Western history in which one side (the suicidal libs) does not have a rational self-interested objective.

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    • on June 20, 2018 at 10:43 pm epochehusserl

      they are trying to preserve their status – that is their rational self-interested objective.

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      • on June 20, 2018 at 10:47 pm Captain Obvious

        What’s the Total Fertility Rate of “their status”?

        The Frankfurt School has brainwashed these poor d@mned fool sh!tlibs into being utterly oblivious to even the moast basic metaphysically fundamental MeatSpace tautologies, such as the need to breed.

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      • on June 20, 2018 at 11:00 pm epochehusserl

        to them it makes sense. that is the point. does the phrase “going down with the ship” mean nothing to you?

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 8:32 am trav777

        it’s kinda like how jews in europe are bringing in hordes of muslims that will eventually annihilate them. Or how gays align with muslims despite the desire of the latter to toss them off a roof.

        It’s nakedly suicidal

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 11:47 am traitors first

        @Captain Obvious
        What’s the Total Fertility Rate of “their status”?
        To damn high, it’s actually a good thing when these creatures do not breed

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  5. on June 20, 2018 at 9:39 pm The Days Before | @the_arv

    […] The Days Before […]

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  6. on June 20, 2018 at 10:56 pm CulturalResilience from Mobile

    To paraphrase Norman Vincent Peel. If the God Emperor stands with us, who can stand against us?

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  7. on June 20, 2018 at 11:30 pm epochehusserl

    The Trump administration should not break up families. Only the family court system is allowed to do that!

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 1:59 am Red

      I agree. They should all be sent back together and banned from entering the USA for life

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 6:13 am Greg Eliot

      I’m still puzzled as to why this latest “children being separated” tempest in a teapot at the border is even happening.

      Why are we letting these folks in to begin with, so that detention centers and resources have to be provided?

      Much easier to say “You can’t come in,” instead of “You have to go back”, or am I missing something?

      Or are ALL of these families people we’re catching AFTER they’ve crossed the border where there are no guards or fences?

      So much for all that “more people are getting deported now” victory lap some of youse yeggs were taking.

      (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 8:09 am bigjohn33

        Greg, this comment is a very good example of why people have been giving you so much shit lately. You make a really good point with the first half of the comment but then you make it into this self-aggrandizing black-pilling with the latter half.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 8:45 am Greg Eliot

        Yeah, people don’t like to be reminded of their lies and mistakes. And the people “giving me shit” speak for themselves with their inane attempts at insult and whistling past the graveyard of the questions I ask, thinking no one will remember because muh echo chamber.

        And if you call this black pilling, you’re just as much of the problem… and this is why we lose.

        Men used to love a rebuke, because it made them wise.

        Now our men are the same little hamsters they accuse women of being.

        Proverbs 9:8
        Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 8:46 am Greg Eliot

        And bigjohn, you forgot to say “HOW DARE YOU!”

        (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 10:50 am Carlos Danger

        It’s a distraction from the IG report and Korea.

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  8. on June 20, 2018 at 11:45 pm Baron Julius Evola

    That picture makes me sad. I watch old videos of interviews of high schoolers and college students from the 1950s and 60s, how much more intelligent and mature they were. I also watch the ‘ what will the future be like’ programs from this era, how much optimism they had. What technologies we could have had, had we not spent it on stupid liberal social policy.

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  9. on June 21, 2018 at 12:07 am Covfefe

    Tell that to the Indian Americans

    [CH: they’re too drunk to appreciate your red knighting]

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  10. on June 21, 2018 at 1:18 am The Days Before | Reaction Times

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  11. on June 21, 2018 at 1:31 am Ripp

    if we can tske over the (((loud speaker))) half the war is already won

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 6:11 am James

      Put on the one ring and you’re the new sauron

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  12. on June 21, 2018 at 2:08 am toubkal

    I don’t know about that. Are you serious or is it a test?
    What I see on the picture is a Beta family provider and a woman with legally and morally regulated hypergamy. She is kept, regulated, but you can not reach her mind.
    It looks nice, but does she get the tingles for him at night? She will fuck him for sure (in the dark, like a starfish under the blanket, once a week), she has no other choice otherwise is this picture gone. Is she enthusiastic about it? I doubt. Is she reading romantic novels and listens to melancholic songs about love? Yes, the female version of porn to satisfy her feelings… Have you seen the film “The bridges of Madison County”? She will cheat if she has a slightest chance to get her 5 minutes of alpha. She will live a “happy” life with her man, but that 5 minutes of alpha will go through her head as she lets her husband do his thing on her. No, thanks, not for me.
    I am rather the other guy, not on the picture. I own rather that 5 minutes of her life and 99% of her desire rather than 99% of her time and 0 minutes of her desire. If you ever experienced a woman desperate to fuck you, you will know what I mean. Peace.

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 2:43 am Captainchaos

      It’s quite simple really, what kind of world do you wish to live in? One that favors intra-societal domineering, usurpation, degeneracy and dishonorability? Is that a better world? You know it isn’t.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 6:11 am Jim Christian

        Tube-Call would get bored in the 1950s model of wife, two kids, sole breadwinner. He’s a happy-fapper.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 7:02 am toubkal

        Oh, don´t misunderstand me, that world was much better for the majority of men AND women (thus the whole society) then the one we have now, I didn’t say otherwise. Still, even to biblical times (multiple wives allowed, death sentence upon infidelity) there was adultery. Wishing a world, where betas have a legally and morally secured flow of pussy and respect seems like justice for all and it sure works on whole-society-scale, but still, you have to be alpha to reach your full potential. On the picture I see a potential blue-pill-dream, that was once true, but never will be again.
        That picture right there is “the old set of books” (Courtesy of Rollo).
        Don’t wish it would be easier, wish you were better.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 8:45 am Jay in DC

        ” Wishing a world, where betas have a legally and morally secured flow of pussy and respect seems like justice for all and it sure works on whole-society-scale, but still, you have to be alpha to reach your full potential.”

        And this will never happen. This world is as idealistic and fantastical as the one you are taking the piss out of. NO society is, was, or ever will be perfect. The 1950s found a nice approximation of one. Yes, she still wants to fuck the construction worker doing road maintenance while beta hub is out earning the bacon. So what? Laws were in place to curb this behavior and shame her for it, which is the way it should be.

        We were at the apex of civilization at this time and it’s been a downhill slide ever since. You cannot make every man an alpha and you cannot make every woman a pure vestial virgin. You can build a society, however, were these are the -ideals- and everyone strives towards them as a collective.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 9:25 am dickycone

        What’s wrong with you guys? Be Ward Cleaver. Sure, it’s not easy to be an alpha provider, well OK, maybe it’s close to impossible with white women nowadays. But it can be done with the right woman. I pull it off with my, uh…somewhat white Catholic wife from south of the border. That picture up there is basically me coming home from work every day, minus the suit. It’s a good life.

        I don’t know, you guys are pretty alpha, if you insist on pure white you might be able to pull off something similar with a below average Russian or Ukrainian woman as long as you hold frame and all that. She’ll still be prettier than most American women. Roosh said don’t marry anything over a 7 anyway, and he’s probably right about that.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 9:28 am Scanman

        Jay’s got it 100%.

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 6:11 am discocrotch

      Muh dick

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 6:16 am Greg Eliot

      The battle will never be over, so long as there are (ahem) people like this tube steak who can look at that picture and only think of the inanities he/she just spewed here.

      Avaunt, impious fool! 😡

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 8:36 am trav777

      bullshit. completely.

      Societal conditioning was much more profound back then against this sort of slutting crap.

      Who cares what SHE wants? What SHE wants leads to the utter destruction of everything. Women used to be sold to the highest bidder, dowry and all of that. It was a property transfer.

      It never occurred to anyone to ask a woman what she wanted because they DO NOT KNOW.

      Her mind…lol.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 8:47 am Jay in DC

        +1 F-Street. I don’t agree with everything you say, but you nailed this one 100%. This whole “wahmen have agency” thing is disproven literally on the hour daily. We handed a loaded gun to a toddler and expected them to use it responsibly. Puh-leez…

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 8:49 am Greg Eliot

        What women want… isn’t there an old Arab proverb that said something along the lines of what women want is fried ice?

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 10:23 am Carlos Danger

        Women are children and not adults. They will never be otherwise. They need a man to lead them. That is why it is important for men to be well raised and taught to be men. Even in the 40s and 50s there were a lot of failures as men and families suffered because of it. That failure to make all men high quality created the opening for what we have now. We will need to do better at raising men if we want to get this back and keep it too.

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 8:58 am Marc

      But goyim, I have this movie here that will prove you wrong

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  13. on June 21, 2018 at 3:06 am Mean Mr. Mustard

    Interesting point about Trash Tier Clothes.

    In Australia, I estimate that at least 95% of the clothes sold here are made in the factories of China.

    Clothing sold here tens to fall into one of two main categories.

    1) The cheap and nasty junk sold by the likes of Target and Kmart that does not last and will end up in the bin after a year or so of wear.

    2) Overpriced “designer” sh*t and “fashion”.
    Much of it covered in crass logos, poorly designed for the intended purpose, and lacking all semblance of classic styling.

    I have no doubt that a good proportion of it ends up in commercial landfill, having never been sold because what does get sold is profitable enough to justify throwing out the rest.

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 1:13 pm danaoilegacy

      Any sites in america that produce quality-tier clothes?

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 4:10 pm Nothingman00

      These days aren’t about 95% of the people there manufactured in China as well?

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  14. on June 21, 2018 at 4:04 am Lovekraft

    Add to that list:

    vegans
    global environmentalism cabal
    “Human Rights” commissions
    Hollywood degenerate hypocrites

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  15. on June 21, 2018 at 4:06 am Lovekraft

    The contrast of a white female (Kirsten Nielson, DHS Director) being hounded out of a restaurant by the rabble is a perfect example of the left’s intolerance and true nature of being the bullies.

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  16. on June 21, 2018 at 4:29 am Buck Turgidson

    $21T in debt and multiple wars without goals and ends in middle eastern s’holes. Refusal to deport illegals. Vegans, that’s a good one, another group of unhinged lunatics. America-hating media and cultural junk on TV and from hollywood. Nose rings. Girls with tattoos covering theirs arms. on and on

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  17. on June 21, 2018 at 4:48 am Jim Christian

    The Don Draper model is dead except for the management elite. Nuclear families, loving wives and single-breed children aren’t for the little people. That’s over.

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 6:13 am James

      Exactly. That’s not for the serfs.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 9:56 am oink

        mewling blackpilling faggots of little faith!

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 10:27 am Carlos Danger

      Jim, you’re well off. You can afford this life even in downtown Fairfax. I am well familiar with your neighborhood. It isn’t cheap. You’re about a mile up the road from the 123 Route 50 intersection. I don’t understand your pessimism. I think the bigger problem is finding women who are capable of being decent wives. Is that the source of it?

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  18. on June 21, 2018 at 5:59 am Hrw-500

    For those who wish a world witout white people should read this blog from a guy nicknamed Captain Capitalism.
    http://archive.is/5IGD8

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 6:19 am Jim Christian

      He quotes the economic features of a world without White people but he ignores a couple of basic facts. Or to be fair, doesn’t address them. Take away the Whites and you lose your electricity, plumbing, water and sewer, roads, IT, farming, food chain, field-to-table, medicine, pharma, aviation, transport of all kinds and law enforcement. World Wide. Because even overseas, they NEED the White people to build, design and finance. It isn’t just here in the U.S., it’s WorldWide.

      They know not what they do.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 8:02 am ConantheContrarian

        “Take a White Men ….” FIFY.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 8:03 am ConantheContrarian

        Take “away” White Men (Fixed it for myself).

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 8:52 am Jay in DC

        JC, That is the “short list” you put in there. Look around you all day today and 99% of anything you see that doesn’t exist in the ‘state of nature’ was something idealized in the head of a european male. We literally created most of objective reality as these fucking ingrates experience it.

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  19. on June 21, 2018 at 6:59 am Sean Fielding

    Pure sentiment. Woman’s underlying nature doesn’t change and must be figuratively chained, as per Jim Christian. Much truth in what Tube said too: Norman Rockwell in the streets, bitch in the sheets.

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  20. on June 21, 2018 at 7:05 am CulturalResilience from Mobile

    Can 60 years of the squandering of civilisations capital be undone, from this point, by other means than complete societal collapse? Western Civilisation took a lot blood, upheaval, suffering and, most importantly, about ten thousand years, to reach that 1950s standard.

    I accept that a societal reset may not be so costly and lengthty this time around, but it’s a safe bet that none of us here today will be around long enough to experience anything beyond the immediate hardships and privations of the collapse.

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 10:29 am Carlos Danger

      keep in mind that 50s lifestyle was created by and destroyed by the same people. Those who actually lived it never saw that piece of it.

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      • on June 22, 2018 at 5:07 am Cultural Resilience

        This is the town I was born and raised in. Maybe the fashions are a bit naff, but just look at all the slender feminine beauty that we took for granted.

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 10:33 am Carlos Danger

      How is the original Oyster House these days? What about Cock of the Walk and Russo’s? I love South Alabama. Its the best part of the country as far as I am concerned.

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  21. on June 21, 2018 at 7:16 am Confused

    …how was the 1950s a period before feminism, “african sex music”, multiculturalism, and drugs, etc.? You guys are aware that jazz and beatniks existed even then, right? And that the large middle class and concomitant single-earner nuclear family associated with that era was made possible only by a very particular confluence of circumstances caused by the end of WW2 and the resulting economic and population boom, right?

    [CH: you seem confused]

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 6:19 pm Rick

      All those things you mentioned of course were occurring but mostly in covert ways- not put front and center on 20 TV channels 24/7. The denizens of this blog want America to be Leave it to Beaver land. And in many ways I agree. School shootings back then? No. Rap music? No Tons of single tattooed fat single mothers breeding mixed race kids? No. Heroin epidemics? No Cities with bad gang violence? No Men losing their jobs due to greedy Wall Street dealmakers? No. The list is almost endless.

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    • on July 5, 2018 at 7:55 am Confused

      CH: how so?

      Rick: I mean, take a look at the cultural dialogue that was going on at the time. People were lamenting the loss of “traditional” America even then. By the 1950s, women and minorities already had the right to vote, and non Anglo-Saxon immigration had been booming since the turn of the century. Culturally speaking, jazz and rock and roll were considered as much of a negative influence on the youth as rap music is today. Young women were even then wearing clothes and dancing in ways that scandalized their parents and grandparents.

      I respect that the commentariat here generally embodies a traditionalist stance. I’m just pointing out the reality that the 1950s in America was rather far from that ideal. America was already a very progressive country by the mid 20th century, and the presence of idyllic nuclear families like the one shown was more a function of an unusually favorable economic climate than any real cultural conservatism.

      My point is that really traditional societies ought to be stable over a long period of time. The “leave it to beaver” society of the 50s clearly wasn’t: after all, it gave way to the 60s, didn’t it? People don’t seem to appreciate the extent to which leftist movements in the 60s had their roots in the previous decade.

      TL:DR, if you wish for it to be the 50s again, don’t be surprised when the 60s rolls around again as well.

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  22. on June 21, 2018 at 8:20 am bigjohn33

    You can still live that life in the picture. It’s a lot harder than it used to be but it can be done.

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 8:39 am bigjohn33

      I think we’re going to see that with GenZ. Their rebellion will be discarding the poz and restoring what once was.

      Imagine a rebellious teenager telling her single mom

      GenZ Girl: “No Mom! I’m not going to drink and do drugs and get fucked by a thousand cocks!”

      Mom: “I raised you better than that! You’re going to go to college and fulfill your potential as an empowered womyn!”

      GenZ Girl: “I’m going to get merried start a family while I’m young. Maybe I’ll find a job when the kids grow up.”

      Mom: “Kids !?!! Merried?!?! What’s wrong with you?!?!”

      GenZ: “I hate you mom!”

      Storms off.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 9:06 am mendo

        As bizarro as that sounds, I wouldn’t doubt if something like that has already taken place.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 9:07 am Marc

        Yep. The boomers can atone for their generational poz, and keep AA from holocausting their sorry asses, by “corrupting” the grandkids.
        The kids are altright.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 9:36 am Jim Christian

        Boomers are no fuckin’ good, but it was the men of the WW2 generation that handed it all over to the Blacks and feminists. Mostly, LBJ, but all who followed through the 60s virtue-signaled the world away for us to begin with. EEOC was a disaster. The end of merit.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 10:32 am Carlos Danger

        I’ve seen that same conversation n my own generation. Feminism has been around a long time and is sustained by propaganda and advertising.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 3:38 pm Jim Christian

        “I’ve seen that same conversation n my own generation. Feminism has been around a long time and is sustained by propaganda and advertising.”

        I don’t know why they bother with the prop and advertising. The real sustenance was the rule of law. Without that, they’re nothing. In a system of merit, they’re nothing, they’d have no place, which is WHY they were mothers and wives back then. Under EEOC, they’re empowered. Financed, Indebted so they could by trinkets instead of making a home. Funny, after a life of that, they panic that they won’t have the life they rejected for so many years until no one wants them. But they’re out there, tens of millions of them.

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 10:29 am Carlos Danger

      I am doing it myself.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 11:05 am bigjohn33

        Same here. I guess the only nit to pick trying to relive that picture today is the close proximity to the city. I don’t know if nicer cities are different but around here anything that close to a cityscape is completely overrun with niggers.

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  23. on June 21, 2018 at 10:22 am ultimathule1

    This was the world of my childhood. I was born in 1956, approximately 10 years before this world began to change into something strange. It really was like this beautiful picture – this is not propaganda or wishful thinking. This was my home, my family. No words can describe how much I miss it. If it is at all possible, we MUST bring this back!

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 10:30 am Carlos Danger

      We need to destroy the enemy from within first. They let us have it in order to loot it and destroy it later on.

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  24. on June 21, 2018 at 1:01 pm Rick

    Or the answer could be neither. Right or wrong women wanted more or something different than being housewives. The economy changed so that 2nd paychecks became more necessary. You come across like ISIS sometimes-ranting against a world that is constantly in flux and believing in a past that can’t be recreated

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 3:42 pm Jim Christian

      The economy didn’t change and so we needed two incomes. When the women all went to work, they doubled the workforce which made wages stagnant. That WAS the change. Corporations, mostly Jewish, and the media got them going in that direction. All those women, working so as not to be in the service of a man or family, working for a company owned by a man, supporting HIS family and children to the exclusion of her own. Idiots, right?

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 6:08 pm Rick

        The economy did changr. One main factor in it changing was the sheer size of the Baby Boom generation. Increase in goods and services = increase in costs and prices. Housing and cars are two prime examples of items that have greatly increased in price. But two incomes means not settling for a 900 square foot house and being able to afford better safety, gas mileage, and technology with your car.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 6:09 pm Rick

        Meant increase in demand for goods and services

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    • on June 21, 2018 at 6:18 pm bigjohn33

      I don’t know if I buy that 2 paychecks are necessary now and they didn’t used to be. I think that’s bullshit. It’s about priorities. It wasnt like the traditional nuclear family in the 50s didn’t have to make sacrifices and prioritize things.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 6:21 pm bigjohn33

        But you are right that “woman wanted more”. But you can’t just give them what they want. They’ll be miserable. Have you learned nothing from CH?

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 7:32 pm Rick

        It isn’t a case of what I’ve learned- I was just pointing out one of the instigating factors of the women’s rights movement. Case in point about two incomes. Parents bought a brand new 2 story colonial 4 br 3 ba home on a nice lot in a new subdivision for $27,000. Houses in that subdivision go for $220,000 now. My dad paid off the home just on his income. Other areas in the US have even higher appreciation. Think wages have kept pace?

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 9:23 pm bigjohn33

        My first house was $33,000. 2 bed 1 bath 600 sq feet and my monthly payment was $375 per month. And it was nice. I was thrilled. I had my first child with my wife there. We could have raised many children there happily and we would have if we had to choose between that and my wife going back to work. Priorities.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 9:26 pm bigjohn33

        The idyllic nature of the picture is the wife being the homemaker, the husband being the breadwinner, and the kids and mom being happy to see their dad when he gets home from work. The size, cost, number of bedrooms, is irrelevant. Wages matching inflation is irrelevant. Income has not become inequal to the point that situation is unattainable for the vast majority of people.

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      • on June 21, 2018 at 9:28 pm bigjohn33

        Also my first house wasn’t in the olden days, it was circa 2010.

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