Overgaming is the mistake inexperienced but eager-to-learn men make with women. It’s a term that means “coming on too strong” (or too jerkish, or too cloying, or too supplicating, etc).
Overgaming usually occurs during the attraction phase of a pickup (the first fifteen minutes) because that’s when men are most hyped up to leave a solid impression on a qtπ. But overgaming can occur during any stage of a seduction, and it’s not uncommon for men to act too “creepy” during the comfort stage or too aggressive during the bedroom close.
However, rarely have I heard of overgaming during a blowjob, until now.
From Sad Girl:
Anecdote on ways to ruin something good. You will probably find it annoying that I am using your terminology and for being foul, but here goes since I am anonymous.
Annoying? I find it charming that you cum to me for help. Doubtless I would be less charmed if we were dating and you were regaling me with sexploits from your slutty past.
Scenario: Guy (a natural) I am dating told me I was worldclass at blowjobs in the middle of one (posture: cocky, leaning back casually on the sofa with his head resting in his hands, which I like to see)
Every man worth his yarbles should strike this pose at least once in his life when the opportunity ARISES. Your T level will go through the roof of the Trump Tower.
and outlining that I was in the top 3 in his life, *subtly ranking me while his dick was in my mouth*. Exceptional, you see – but not number one. A neg…
LMAO. I mean, this is funny af but totally unnecessary. In his defense….since when have jerkboys been known for their circumspection?
This kind of behaviour doesn’t lower his value to me psychologically, as I am sure you will understand.
All too well.
But…it has soured this ”special thing we share” – spending time together with his cock in my mouth. I think this is an example of ”overgaming”. My enthusiasm was at a level 10 for this act, and now it has dropped.
To a 9.5?
I am around 30 which I think you will find relevant, and there was literally no need to psychologically motivate me to suck harder by planting a seed of competition in my head, since it was already my favourite thing that I do constantly without being asked, and I assume that’s a huge part of why he is dating me.
How long had you two been dating when he gave your BJ technique a top 3 finish? (technically, he could have meant you were number one. technically.) If you had been dating for a while, and exclusively, then his hummerbrag would sound more like a toothless joke. If you had just started dating, then it would indicate something more ominous — that he was still playing the bj field or would be if your technique fell short (heh) of his standards. Or maybe he just thought it was funny, and jerkboys don’t bother with nuisances like idle thought filters.
In this case, there was only room to go down.
These things happen after a blowjob.
I think negging me in this situation like that made me enjoy it less, and I don’t think I can go back to the real enthusiasm I had before. I just feel differently now. It hurt my feelings, or my ego, or who knows the other things going on emotionally i haven’t sorted out yet, while I have actually been giving my all. It’s not the same now.
If you were genuinely hurt by his flagrante delicto judgment call, I have the cure for your sub-par bj blues.
*zzzzzziiiiiipp*
Get ready, your bj level is about to hit 99 (inches).
I’ll spare a moment of post-lockajw seriousness; if he only said it once and you can tell by his joy that he still loves cumming to you for your very special lessons in oral love, then don’t allow a poorly timed spell of overgaming to spoil you on him. And to be franknbeans, it sounds like you’re still with him, giving him a little less than your all (but which would still qualify as a bone-anza to the typical beta incel) but giving it to him nonetheless, so my conclusion is that you are HEAD over heels for this lovable jerk and came here to vent your insecurities about his potential waywardness, and wondering aloud if in coded language to Chateau lords the odds that Top 3 Knob Job Jerkboy would leave you for a girlie with a nimbler, precision targeting tongue.
To that, all I can advise is take a cue from his tone. Did he rank you in the braheemian vocal stylings of a man eager to show off, or was his message delivered with a blunt blurt suggesting his mind was likely drifting to memories of the agog minxmouths of lost lovers? If the former, brush it off. If the latter, there’s a website you can go to where you’ll find plenty of men who will treat you with the dearest respect you so obviously deserve when your polehole is wrapped for his pleasure:
“cutie pie”, CH…real cute. . . .NERD!
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A real nerd would point out that “pie” is a mispronunciation of the Greek “pee”, but sadly I can’t find a real nerd to confirm that at this time.
Maybe when Greg gets back.
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As a great lover of receiving oral pleasure I can’t understand why you would want to say anything during one of these things. If I’m on her couch, she’s on her knees, i’m pushing her gag reflex and she keeps going even while I’m popping off rounds in her mouth than I don’t have much to talk about.
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Do you kiss her after she blows you? Swap cum? (It’s totally cool if it’s your own, bro.)
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No, I make her brush her teeth right after.
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Sexy af.
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god damn you are such a fag
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Juvenile af
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Easy, you sexual gods. I’m just trying to figure out the standard here. I’m trying to be more like you, so please be patient.
Does she massage your prostate while she sucks? Does Colgate/Listerine take away the residual shit flavor after ass-to-mouth? Does she toss your salad on occasion?
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Doesn’t sound like he was gaming at all, let alone overgaming. Sounds like he truly doesn’t give a shit what she thinks and he was just entertaining himself. She’s turned off because he pierced the facade she constructed in her head, she can’t lie to herself and pretend they have something special like she could before. He tipped his hand: she’s just a blow job slut to him.
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But you should never reduce a girl in significance; they’re feeble, inferior creatures as it is, you should be giving them every encouragement IN YOUR OWN HEAD to upraise them, make them special, thereby making the INTERACTION SPECIAL.
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Of course but you make her special by letting her know how special you are.
Why do women brag about the guys whose dicks they’ve pleasured? Their value comes from you.
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the greater the lifespan of your relationship, the easier it is to “overgame”
after you initially get things rolling, speak less
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I’ve done the Judge’s Scorecard, post oral ministrations:
“How was I???”
“Hmmm, I could give you a top three”
“…Ooookay!” (hamster almost audible as it revs to redline)
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This is a woman who’s just encountered a thought that she’s likely been suppressing her entire adult life; casual sex, sex with a man who doesn’t love you, is ultimately humiliating.
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boom
Nothing left but the tears. And the wine. And the netflix and the cats and recriminations.
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The term you’re searching for is “nut rag”.
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Blow jobs
used to be called
Fuckin em in the face
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Shorter: slag.
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cynthia, the chateau’s own Gaea, comes through yet again. 😉
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I’ve been in this situation exactly once when I was 21. By the time I realized what kind of position I’d put myself in, it was way too late to take it back. It haunted me for a very long time, and caused me to re-evaluate a lot of things.
No woman wants to be treated like a cum rag. Any woman who lets you treat her like shit, both in and our of bed, somewhere in the back of her mind has convinced herself of some massive lie you’ll likely never be privy to.
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Nah we are privy to your lie. You tell us your lie. You love to tell us. And that’s why we won’t be your boyfriend while you go insane.
It’s you who doesn’t understand. A 21 year old girl, fully a woman, barely a human, with no guidance from her elders. Cause my god that’s patriarchy and didn’t your mom fight so hard so we could bang you to ragged depths and you could weep later. Why?
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What are you on about? This is nonsense, an example of the complete confusion that results from trying to rationalize your degeneracy.
Or worse, you are taking your philosophy of life exclusively from the minds of broken girls. You want to attribute your defectiveness to childminds (modern women) who don’t/can’t know better.
I’m thinking your mothers are whores or something. You are the fruit of the divorce generation. Literal sons of bitches.
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Pithy, yet deeper than a trench in the Pacific.
I’ll be using that one.
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I felt bad for “Sad Girl” – I could feel her pain as I was reading the essay – and the humiliation of it stung really hard.
Pushing 30 now, the Darkness is gonna start accelerating throughout her heart, she’s in danger of rapidly becoming unm@rriageable, and the chance that she’s gonna cross paths with Mr Perfect in the next year or two is approximately one in infinity.
So where does Sad Girl go now?
How many moar chances will she have?
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M0d ate muh follow-up kkk0ment, but “Sad Girl” needs to start thinking about setting her sights on dudes who are substantially older than she, and then start thinking hard about an “0ops! Pr3gnancy”.
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Our personal decisions are ultimately our responsibility. Sad Girl put herself in this situation. Our culture has, however, stripped us all of the ability to honestly articulate the deep emotions that are brought up in situations like this, and this is the problem.
As a woman in today’s culture aren’t allowed to acknowledge the truth that casual sex isn’t awesome and fulfilling. It’s a thoughtcrime of the highest order, because it invalidates the feminist narrative. Therefore, when you inevitably encounter this feeling after a situation like this, you have no explanation for it and start groping in the dark for answers. There is a lot of regret and shame and personal recrimination that is inherent in this kind of behavior for us ladies. IMO, this is where a lot of those false rape accusations come from.
I feel sorry for women like Sad Girl. But it’s her decision now as to what she does with this kernel of awareness.
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Therefore, when you inevitably encounter this feeling after a situation like this, you have no explanation for it and
start groping in the dark for answersThe Darkness starts groping in you.FTFY.
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Yours is an example of das Ewig-Weibliche. Here is feminine wisdom which must temper the unchained release of masculine urges, lest an all-male cohort turn into a bathhouse fuckall, fuck everything that moves (and anything that doesn’t): face, anus, child, corpse, a knot hole in the fence.
Clever kike puppets believe the lie, that one can discern and distinguish between sodomies, as if they could control the one urge without succumbing to another. But there is only one urge, the distinctions are illusions, they are temptations to believe one can control the gathering landslide, to shelter oneself from the avalanche in a specially delved niche.
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She not so subtly changes lanes.
Granted, the lane change will be sloppy; a lot of swerving into parked cads.
But eventually she will learn that her cocksure oral expertise is best appreciated by a man with a sensible sedan and moderately aggressive 401k.
Welcome to the betabux birthday blowjob town. Those days are behind her. She’s learned to respect herself. And the next guy will totally understand.
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hurr hurr but hummers are awsum, virgin.
It’s what all women want, and what’s the trouble with giving women everything they want?
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This comment could have been written by cher CH himself. Le Chateau de Raison.
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Never the best.
Top three is as good of an evaluation as they will ever get.
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meh…had this one asian chick one time and gfd she was good at it, and the best i’d had and I told her so. she’s still #1 at that. I have no issues giving props where they’re warranted.
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Cool story bro
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Now I may be dating myself by this (My seventy-fourth birthday is six weeks away.), but I grew up in a moral environment (Micro-climate?) in which fellatio was desparaged as exclusively and intrinsically male homo-erotic*, hence abyssally beneath the dignity of any aspirant to, or claimant at, manhood.
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If memory serves, there’s something in the novel The Godfather about how the goodfellas would never even THINK of having their w-i-v-e-s… the mother of their children… do this.
That’s what the girls on the side were for.
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I don’t think there’s specific mention of that phenomenon in The GF. But there is lots of graphic sex in the novel, which was considered shocking at the time (1969), and lots of red pill truths, e.g., Johnny Fontane’s thoughts about his many conquests:
“…You could tell a girl who really liked to f*ck and they were always the
best. Especially the ones who hadn’t been at it too long. What [Johnny] really hated were the ones who had started screwing at twelve and were all fucked out by the time they were twenty and just going through the motions, and some of them were the prettiest of all and could fake you out. …”
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I’m pretty sure Sonny mused something along those lines about “the mother of my children” being off limits when it came to that sort of thing, hence his affair with that other gal with the giant cooze who, when asked about her affair with Sonny by the doctor who fixed her up so that she could enjoy ‘normal’ men, said something like “We did everything.”
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It’s sodomy. There is no indication from the correspondent that “she” is a woman and not just a gay man in cyberian drag. In fact, the idea of a woman coming to a place like this for sex advice should be suspect from the start.
You are a link back to a time before the complete jewification of our culture. To modify Keynes: Practical PUA’s, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually slaves of some defunct jew psychoanalyst.
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As Weinstein et. al. infinitum demonstrated, the psychology that drove the Sexual Revolution/Armageddon is just the jew’s pining over the untouchable blonde shiksa writ large. Read the new Freud biography. Their fundamental Weimar degeneracy has been transferred to our underclasses, beginning with their pet nogs and now ending with wiggers and juggalos whose champions can still be found here talking to themselves.
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If getting blown by large breasted young women is a gay Jewish plot, then you can go ahead and gold star me.
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Ha. Fucking degenerate. Selling off your heritage for a gay sex act.
Go stick your pathetic little pecker in a bathhouse glory hole. Same effect with none of that feminine fussiness or discrimination.
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King,
Is the new Freud biography you refer to *The Making Of An Illusion*?
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Times have changed. Our wives blow us now. In fact my pregnant wife blows me whenever I want. She’s much happier and feels so much better about herself when I $odom1ze her though.
She’s still attractive! She thinks. Less worry about me.
I would say men are winning but clearly most men are still hopeless. But some men? My god are we winning. We can’t lose.
Of course we can’t.
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Yes, friend. It’s called Freud: The Making of an Illusion by Frederick Crews.
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They haven’t changed passively. They have been changed. Learn about the planted degeneracy that mottles your soul like cancer. Then carve it out, even if it kills you. Better to die excising the darkness than succumbing to it, slowly suffocating, becoming adulterated into someone you don’t recognize.
We grew up in the heyday of their evil, the culmination of their project. We hardly notice it, like fish can’t perceive water. A part of us still repulses, like when we see trannies or gay pride or children in drag. But we have long since rationalized our own participation, normalizing the tendencies to weakness in ourselves. The result has been the first ungendered, sexless generation in the history of man, the millennials, the lotus eaters with nothing to kill or die for. They were shown the purest normalized poz, and they simply walked away rather than risk participating. The malign subversives cannot de-generate us utterly, but they can make us suicidal.
It’s the devil versus the blessed virgin. With whose works do you align yourself?
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King has it right. He’s effectively battling a tsunami with a roll of paper towels but that doesn’t make him wrong.
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Pretty damn sure blowjobs have been practiced between male and female’s throughout history. Just because f@gg0ts also practice this act does not make it H0m0. If you truly think that, then i know with 100 percent certainty you have never received a mindblowing bj. @nal on the other hand is strictly for f@gs.
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Here come the sodomy micromanagers, who split fine hairs between kinds of behavior, who know “for sure” that his same-sex tendencies are universal. You are like the twink who thinks everybody is a little bit gay.
Historical illiterates like you are the plaything of the jew. You’re “pretty damn sure” history confirms perversion is natural and we should chase it to the demographic suicide (slow genocide) of our own people, goys.
Really: give me a single shred of evidence of your contention. Modern tarted-up biopics like Spartacus Blood & Sand are not real. Caesar wasn’t black and Joan of Arc wasn’t a gook, either. Who needs an education when you have the fat incel George RR Martin and Gayme of Thrones tutoring you?
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No way. The tidal wave is an enormous illusion, supported by the contributions of a thousand little participants like the correspondent in the OP, the numb victims here who think they have to nod along with the jew or else be thought prude, and occasionally CH himself.
The repulsion with crimes against nature resonates in everybody’s soul, it still does, it always will. Only it has been suffocated lately, intimidated into pretending filth is beautiful. When we are permitted to quit calling degeneracy progress, the “tsunami” will be in the other direction. One mode is a rank dishonesty at odds with every fiber of our nature, one mode brings the exhilaration of living in the truth. The sea change won’t be gradual, and it won’t be long.
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jesus fucking christ…the virgin fags on here are now actually arguing that a BLOWJOB is fucking sexual degeneracy?!?!
holy shit you people are lost
I’ll have a large pedestalization of women with a side of capt save-a-ho
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I don’t think us yeggs are gonna take any Alinsky shaming language on sexuality from a guy who literally and self-admittedly relieves himself on women…
… even if the evacuated dinner did cost $400.
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I actually laughed out loud at the idea of me pedestalizing women.
Some people are capable of considering ideas without subscribing to them. Some aren’t. No need to get so upset.
Is oral sex sodomy? If your coming from the perspective of the RCC or any other fundamentalist Protestant Christian denomination, the answer is pretty clear cut — it is. From the perspective of the various US state sodomy laws? Also a pretty clear cut yes. Most of those laws are gone now or unenforced.
Is it degenerate? If you consider non-procreative sex is degenerate, you’d have to answer yes. If you don’t, then it becomes a community standard question. Obviously, the answer from the vast majority of US communities is a resounding “no”. I can deal with this without getting upset.
Do you remember your first blow job, Trav?
…….
….How long it it take the guy to cum?
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relive your childhood somewhere else scan
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@king great another hopeless boomercuck who left us with no fathers and the only wives around are 30+ and have been $odom1zed by a train of men before us here to lecture us about how in his day moralfaggotry.
You lost boomer. Your entire generation is an embarrassment. We now have to deal with the feral sk@nks your generation created. So how about you stfu before #dayofthepillow. Nobody wants to hear your virtue signaling. Just go die already we need your house for a nice young couple to have a family in.
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And here I thought boomers were the ones with an overinflated sense of entitlement?
Trump and several other respected voices (that weren’t heeded in the past) were boomers as well, so just STFU already with this “boomers ate my ice cream” whining.
You subsequent “ME-ME-ME” generations of various stripe fucked up bigly on your own accords… and continue to do so.
As far as paying one’s own way, most of us have paid more into SS and taxes than we’ll ever get back, and had we (and our employers) had that money to keep for ourselves, the investments and stimulants to the economy we could have done on our own would have carried us far better.
The so-called “Greatest Generation” had more to answer for than boomers ever did… and the generations that followed boomers did nothing but allow a fever to grow into the current malaise.
As far as that house is concerned, it’s reserved for me and mine, when I’m gone. America is still a big country, go out and earn your own, like the rest of us have.
You fairy. 😡
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Greg, boomers are the only generation that expect welfare at the end of their lives for the great achievement of ruining their countries and societies. It will be hilarious when the social security checks will bounce and you’ll become the personal servants of future generations. Maybe that way you’ll make up for some of your fuckups.
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Sincere question: what would you say, Bre’r King, to a man who enjoys receiving oral pleasure from his w!fe who enjoys spending time down there? Are both man and w!fe in the wrong?
How about the w!fe pleasuring the man by hand?
May either man or w!fe mastůrbate?
Is only m!ssionary position in a blacked out bedroom (whilst trying to conceive) permissible? How about c0pulation after menopause?
I’m not at all on the attack here, I’m merely confused. What did Paul mean when he wrote that the m@rriage bed was undefiled? What line must one pass before entering defilement territory?
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We’ve been through this on several threads, and I even mentioned it in the post you’ve replied to, butt munch, so listen this time.
I’ve paid more in SS and taxes (not to mention my employers) than clowns like you have earned in your life thus far.
Getting my own money back, and at a far less interest rate than I could have generated by investing it myself, does not equal welfare.
Math is hard for you subsequent generations, I supposed. And it’s my fault you didn’t do well in school?
If I live until 88 I will have reached the break-even point, at which any money the gummint gives me could actually be called welfare.
Even though I’m in stunning health and not collecting SS yet (soon, perhaps, in another year or so, I’m not waiting until 66 or whatever the “full” age is yet), I doubt I’ll see 88, so the point is, dumbass, that before you shoot your mouth off about ‘welfare”, contribute a few more shekels to the system and enjoy the roads and safety and such that your tax dollars pay for, because they ain’t footing any of my bills.
And don’t make me call you stupid again.
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On the other note, Jaded Jurist, let me answer your sincere question with
1 Corinthians 6:12 –
“All things are lawful for me,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful for me,” but I will not be dominated by anything.
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Yeah. You’re off to a great start with your (((sincerity))).
You’ve missed the forest for the trees. Like a talmud legalist who lives by 617 rules, you believe you can achieve righteousness through technicality and casuistry. For the slower members of the tribe, there must be commandments and covenants written in stone to guide their every move. For goys who can naturally handle freedom without destroying ourselves — through our superior ability of self-discipline — we know the circumstances well enough (by the grace of God) to work backwards from result to behavior. You begin at the end, by asking, what do we want to come of an action? The Aristotelian/Thomistic Final Cause.
“For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ” (John 1:17).
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Do you want a degenerate and debased woman? Or do you want to keep her youth, beauty, innocence — her portion of the eternal feminine — as long as possible on this broken plane?
That I have to patiently explain how sodomy degrades you and the man/woman/child/animal you perform it on, is an indication you can’t be trusted to transcend hard rules. It tells me that I can’t even begin to impart the principles which guide the free man’s judgment with regard to the treatment of other animate and inanimate objects. And yes, in those cases, it is better for you, not to mention the people around you, to be subject to a blanket prohibition. Judgment is foreign to you. A blunt ideology is necessary for you to make any working sense of the world.
You want to be given the exact dimensions of the “line.” That means you are a slave to forces you do not understand. You need to be led by men; you need borrowed wisdom which you cannot figure out unguided; you need a generous and patient mentor; you have no capacity for truth on your own.
But your situation is in fact even worse than an ability to consciously take your cue from a rulebook or from men. You were raised without structure. You are led by porn.
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King, your King and mine is the same Savior (I assume, based on your typically Biblical and usually theologically sound ministrations here).
He berated only people (and demons) who intended to deceive. He also knew men’s hearts. The rest of us have to wait until we see the fruits before we can know the tree. Kindly follow His example and wisdom.
Let’s dispense with the “You’re tithing mint and anise, straining at a gnat” shtick. In fact, let’s forget the letter of the law altogether and limit this discussion to the spirit of the law, since my [fully parentheses-free] sincere questions stumbled you.
In what spirit, or in other words motivation, volition, and heart, would you propose mårital intimacy take place? How can a couple cöpulate without defiling one or both members? Remember, this time we’re talking motivation, not acts.
And if “giving glory to God” is one answer you’re thinking of, that’s a cop-out. I give glory to God when I have a raging boner in response to the beauty he imparted to women and by cheerfully going along with His “be fruitful and multiply” command when my wífe rubs up against me just the right way.
Would you take a moment, teacher, to give a Christ-like response to one who has not yet reached near Christ-like levels of understanding like you have?
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Then what’s with the Br’er “shtick”?
Unitive and procreative; in this case, focus on the unitive. CCC 2351, 2361-2363, 2366.
Like I said, you’re better off not arrogating to yourself an ability to live the “spirit of the law” when you demonstrate such an inability — by virtue of your upbringing or your own vincible pride — to recognize abjectly disordered behavior even in theory, much less in front of you, much less within yourself. “If they can’t exercise self-control … it’s better to mårry than to burn with passion.” In fact, this assumption that men can universally handle freedom by following one’s feels (“as a man who enjoys”) is at the heart of the decline of the west.
Revealing assumption.
I answer your weak offering of irony with a compliment: it’s good to talk with a dissenter who has the first clue whence his valid if not sound disagreement derives. I’m glad you (and Eddie) are my bros.
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2nd try, m0d-3vasion version.
Dear Sister King:
The “Br’er shtíck” was my way of offering a welcoming salutation. That you found it unwelcoming says more about you than me.
Then again, perhaps there’s some loaded or otherwise tríggering aspect to the use of Br’er that I don’t know. If so, this one’s a coin toss: am I at fault for not knowing, or are you at fault for bristling like an [ess jay W] upon my use of the term?
Regarding my original question: if you don’t want to answer it, I won’t try to force it. I’m just disappointed that you’ve given only opäque answers. I asked for some rubber-meets-the-road advice and after I pointed out that you were merely beräting me (straw man attåck) you quoted catechísma (appeal to authørity). Slither much?
You’re very good with words. You raise the bar in these comment sections when it comes to lively interactions. It’s a shąme you’ve also resorted to using the same methods of argûment that our less useful commenters do.
Consider yourself to have failed a shít test that wasn’t even a shít test.
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Hol’ up, niggá, hol’ up.
You ásk for guidélinés thén compláin whén I cité thé rélévánt guidébook? You chálléngé mé to providé áuthoritátivé ádvicé thén wondér why I “áppéál” to áuthority? “Opáqué”? I gávé you cháptér ánd vérsé. áppáréntly I gávé you moré crédit thán you désérvéd, ánd you nééd it spélléd out liké á schoolboy.
Thé prácticál ádvicé for you is: cut it áll out. áll of it. No sodomy, zéro. Thát is simplé énough to follow, yés?
If you wánt to know why you cán’t bé trustéd blurring thé linés, thát is á sépáráté discussion which you séém incápáblé of háving. Thé bést you undérstánd “thé spirit of thé láw” is licénsé to indulgé thé pétty féélz thát séém épic to bourgiés, who know nothing of sublimity or ártistry, who think á couplé séconds of orgásm is thé pinnáclé of théir éxisténcé (ánd máybé it is). Your “áppéál to áuthority” is moré fállácious thán miné bécáusé you áré léss conscious of its hold ovér you: your mástér is thát which you “énjoy.” How sométhing mákés you féél is your guidé. Which énds in áddiction ánd disástér ánd déáth.
Páráphiliás árén’t ábout féélz, théy áré ábout trust. BDSM isn’t ábout páin, it is ábout dévotion. Hummérs árén’t ábout gétting wét friction on your dick from thé holé thát kissés your kids, théy áré ábout á womán débásing hérsélf ás thé strongést proof of fidélity shé (ánd you) cán imáginé. “I lovéd thát hé wás so powérful I wás nothing.”
Your issué is á láck of imáginátion ánd thé discipliné to inspiré hér fáith in you ás á léádér through thé vicissitudés of lifé. “Lové God, ánd do whát you will.” If you cán’t hándlé thát Only Commándmént, don’t évén try to “do whát you will.” Using your féélz ás á guidé is thé ur-récipé for cátástrophic fáil. It’s thé blind léáding thé blind, you’ré á womán áttémpting to léád womén.
(The nesting and mod filters on this forum are from 2003, the platform is defunct and this place is a joke.)
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Weak.
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Ha. This is how arrogance peters out when it’s got nothing to do but die. Bravado in the form of single-word assertions that you hope will conceal your surrender. My mistake for expecting better!
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Wrong again, Princess. My one-word answer was my way of expressing disappointment with your non-answers, without my condescending to your playground pedanticism.You should try it.
You’ve been acting lately like a bipolar street dog off his meds in the midst of a profound and prolonged manic episode. You can’t give a straight answer, you only shart out blasts of self-aggrandizing logorrhea. Even Greg at his worst addresses questions directly, but you keep moving the goalposts and wriggling out of every attempt to pin you down. This is what SJWs do. It should be beneath you, but here we are.
My short answer was meant to drop this futile attempt to reason with you because you’re like a dog grabbed by his ears, and it’s just become tiresome for everybody. Come back when you’re ready to have an adult discussion.
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Eyeroll.
Neat trick, characterizing explanations as “nonanswers” to conceal an inability to engage.
I gave you the answer three times and patiently explained the reasons behind those answers, and then you fault me for explaining myself patiently (“logorrhea”).
Your retarded ad-hom method of navigating these conversations is just as useless as any tryhard’s here, only you managed to conceal it for one round. I should have stopped then, but I hoped against hope.
I was a fool to take your inquiry with “sincerity” from the first (though I did call it). You don’t have the stuff to understand or reply with anything of value.
Carry on, smol brain.
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Your response was poetic prose if nothing else. I’ll take it. Thanks for weighing in.
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Another kid whose daddy left him and is revenging himself on the world. You make me wish I was a boomer so I could mine even more salt from your sad sad tales of broken-home woe.
As if your spastic acting-out and cartoon understanding of manliness weren’t enough of a tell, you expressly admit you’re still not over your daddy issues. Cry more, faggot.
Let me know when you’re over the queer interior psychodrama, and maybe then you’ll be ready to hear the truth you’ve been cowering from for years.
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Resident just-tellin-it-how-it-be streetwise coolguy cum wigger sez:
You degrade the women you know because you don’t have an ability to improve them. Your inability to make them better leads you to believe — like a child — that it is impossible to make them better. And finally, you mock the men who can bring out the full expression of a girl’s femininity as saveahos or pedestalizers who somehow missed the “insight” that women are totally depraved.
Every time you bring your tryhard braggotry around, you confirm this deficiency of yours. Every time you lose your shit over men who make women more womanly by their very presence, much less a deliberate effort, you demonstrate your adolescent insecurity about that deficiency. It’s not hard to perceive in you. Most men (and women) who graduated high school can.
You were arrested at the worst possible age for a man, you have the mentality of a teenager with the broken-home FUCK YOU DAD bravado a lot of your peers went through, and none of the calm confidence that comes with growing up.
You spaz when you encounter something you don’t immediately understand — like it’s a threat to you. You are a very low IQ individual, and you’re not hiding it with bluster as well as you think. Has no one told you this?
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I like to keep the dialogue minimal during a blowjob, like an art film. Maybe throw in a “suck daddy’s dick” to establish a throughline for the dirty talk of the coital sequel.
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I usually will grab her head and say, what a good girl.
Though this poor middle aged sucker has her feels going bad due to realizing that she’s low value. But not no value! If she plays her cards right she might be able to have maybe three kids without downs syndrome and only two miscarriages in between.
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Of course you do, heeb
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kissing too much during a party and/or date is problematic too. like in the car or something
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An example of undergaming: http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/28/joe-scarborough-daily-caller-creepy/
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Beta/omega stalker.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ramos-search-20180628-story.html
Game saves lives.
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Read carefully.
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Game saves lives. Game saves children. Hell game makes children to be saved.
But can omegas and gammas actually learn game? They are too narcissistic to listen, and to learn, how to bend that narcissism into winning. Too many of them believe their Savior is that one vag, the one, the most precious one, who will save them.
Hilarious
That one vag is waiting for you to save her. By banging her brains out and then leaving, and then, if she’s good enough, if she behaves well enough, you allow her to follow.
Why do you think huwhites are so good looking?
Most of us die.
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right as rain…
despite all this talk of game and self-improvement and whatever else…it’s nonstop pedestalization of the perfect imaginary “good” girl.
They’re women. They’re not angels. The sooner you fucking wrap your head around this FACT and start worrying about YOURSELF and what YOU need to do for YOU the better off you’ll be.
Women are whatever you allow them to be.
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h/t Saucer Lord
Shannon Watts ✔ @shannonrwatts
I’d like to respectfully ask white male pundits to be quiet for a hot minute. We don’t need you to tell us that this isn’t as bad as it seems, or that we need to be civil, or even that we’re screwed. Pass the mic to women – especially women of color and those are marginalized.
We’ll be quiet after a three-word message from our sponsors at MPC.
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I’m sure Mr Ramos is a huwhite male from California. Home of all the huwhites. I know my blonde blue eyes boys all have surnames very similar to RAMOS
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Has the ol’ ‘white hispanic’ label been dusted off yet?
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“My enthusiasm was at a level 10 for this act, and now it has dropped.”
Poor girl. Will she ever recover?
I have no doubt that the realisation that; “casual sex, sex with a man who doesn’t love you, is ultimately humiliating” is likely to be the first domino to falls in the journey that will lead her to abandon “Alpha f*cks” and pursue “Beta bucks”.
That is if she is smart.
If she is stupid, she will be a solipsistic cum receptacle for Alphas for another 10 years or more.
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She is not smart. By definition. She is a woman.
They can’t know what they do. They will follow us all the way up or all the way down.
So where does that leave us with regard to culpability?
In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand the function. We make women without wombs and expect of them womanliness. We spay and bid mares be fruitful.
Ha ha, stupid bitches! They deserve what they get!
Seriously, tell us about the women in your lives. Do you know any, or are they all just high-T cunts? And why do you find yourself in the midst of such mixed & confused sexualities?
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No, Queen, you tell us about the women in YOUR life.
Surely, will be your shortest post ever…
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Do you have an actual argument? Or are you going to stick with this hurrdurr virgin gambit?
Here you are on a site that discusses these phenomena in detail from every angle, and the best you’ve got to contribute are special-ed taunts that prove you’re too retarded to even bully effectively.
I want to know: was it a slutty sister or an alcoholic mom who gave you such a stunted AWALT idea? Now confessing that would be a contribution.
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Yep.
All those cocks, 15+ years of honing herself into a top 3 fucktoy, made her who she is today.
Apparently, there is no other path toward female enlightenment, aka “i am finally ready to settle down” aka “now i know what I want/deserve”.
The real tickler is when her settledown man gets a semi-annual hint at her orsl aptitude. You see, she will always be top 3, but for the complimentarian beta man, her skills are deployed to expedite, no longer to excite.
AF/BB is sinister on so many levels.
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Is Trump the greatest troll ever? Today (June 28 at qanonDOTpub) Q posts:
We are waiting for a reporter to ask the ultimate question.
What are they waiting for?
They can end this at any time simply by asking POTUS, right?
We may have to ‘force’ this one.
Q
This is in reference to an increasing number of media “reports” trying to smear Q as a lunatic fringe conspiracy theory. But as Q points out, all they have to do is ask Trump. But for some reason they won’t ask.
What are they afraid of? 200 million all rushing at once to read the Q posts? Ha ha ha.
Trump, master troll.
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hahaha! yes, scared shitless to ask. this was a brilliant troll by EGK.
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im beginning to understand what EGK meant when he said during the campaign that “Americans have forgotten how to win”. people are so used to doing everything on the enemies’ terms – spergily taking everything at face value via the type of communication the mainstream media uses, expecting everything to happen RIGHT NOW!, that they can’t even imagine that there are other ways of doing things. other ways of communicating. other ways of strategizing. everything is expected to be all immediate gratification, all the time.
supposedly whites are the master race, the only ones capable, as a group, of sustained, delayed gratification. and yet look all the naysayers: gimme gimme gimme!!! right now right now right now!!! Sessions! He’s not doing anything! there’s no arrests! when’s the race war start?!? right. that’s what winning looks like. everything right now. smdh.
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— and yet look all the naysayers: gimme gimme gimme!!!
Challenges reveal character, as they say. One of the new lessons of the rising Trump era is to harshly judge reflexive black pillers as weak and untrustworthy. Both here and in real life. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it.
There are commenters I used to respect whom I no longer do because of their shit-colored-pilling. And their tireless sabotage.
When their ego gets the best of them, they are steered by subversive instinct so that their pessimism is proven right.
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If Trump himself wanted “200 million rushing to read Q” he could easily sneak some reference into one of his tweets.
Q should work on formatting AND relaying his information so that regular folks without the secret decoder ring could embrace it… the coy little tee-hees about all that “inside information” puts off the legal standard’s “reasonable person”… and his track record, well… meh.
What ever happened to that “other” IG report? The “original draft” that wasn’t eviscerated by (((YKW))), that had all the “real” information that was going to set off all those “bombshells”?
When the actual IG report did come out, we saw the usual “mistakes were made, move on” nuthin’ burger.
And this is but one example of That Which Did Not Come To Promised Fruition.
This isn’t “gimme gimme gimme” or “black pilling”… this is calling a spade a spade.
Remember the gods of the copybook headings? Yegg’s Version:
“Put up or STFU”
“A second promise is never trusted when a first one is reneged.”
“Bullshit, like water, finds it’s own level”
A man can do wonders for his credibility when his reports and promises bear fruit, and like the Book tells us, “by their fruits shall ye know them”.
Or, youse yeggs can just keep posting queer Liberace pics of defunct n1gger presidents and demand adherence to all the “Filter techniques” that prove their authenticity, and whoever doubts such is a dastard traitor of the first water.
(((shakin’ mah haid)))
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If Trump himself wanted “200 million rushing to read Q” he could easily sneak some reference into one of his tweets.
Let me qualify that with some UNMISTAKABLE reference or mention of Q.
And I mean something more than making hand gestures in a speech (in which the alleged Q has a downward stroke instead of a proper diagonal) or pointing at a guy who happens to be wearing a Q shirt, or having a picture of a White rabbit on Easter.
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@ Greg
A few things:
1. Q is without question representing Trump. It has been proved time and time again.
2. Why did Jesus use parables? “For heaven’s sake, everyone knows that no man can fit a beam in his eye! What kind of nonsense is this?”
3. The redacted and modified IG report that was published is chock full of damning evidence. Anyone who has followed the topic knows that. I believe it is on page 294 of the report that mention is made of the Clinton Foundation and Crimes against Children.
Of course, if one listened only to CNN and their reports of the Summary and Conclusion, one might think differently.
4. As has been pointed out before, as long as the media operates at the direction of the deep state, optics are important, especially with the mid-terms approaching.
Yes, Trump can de-classify the full IG report and related evidence, and he can also sack Rosenstein. That is his constitutional right. But that is what the deep state WANTS him to do, so that they can report that he is putting himself above the law.
To verify this, search for moveoneDOT.org Mueller Rosenstein firing “Rapid Response Events” and you will see that the left has already organized more than 900 events with – they claim – 350,000 responses so far, for exactly this eventuality. And don’t think that CNN is not ready to run this for months and months to cover up the Awans and other trials and revelations.
Anyway, Rosenstein now has 7 days to deliver or he will be held in contempt of Congress and then impeached. That vote was carried in the House today. If this process removes Rosenstein, no one can blame it on Trump. So it won’t dominate the news cycle and de-legitimize what follows, which is what the left wants.
Anyway, as long as we’re doing popular sayings:
You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.
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Uncle Greg just wants what’s best for you, goys. Really.
No…Really.
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Since it’s too voluminous a topic to cover in a few sentences, let’s just take one of the “facts” you present, since I did do a bit of reading up on it:
That particular note in the FBI agent Coleman’s notebook was as follows:
(1) Anthony Wiener [sic]
(2) [Unrelated]
(3) Wiener [sic] – texting 15 yo – Sexually Explicit
9/26 – Federal SW – IPhone/IPAD/Laptop
Initial analysis of laptop – thousands emails
Hillary Clinton & Foundation
Crime Against Children
This is not indisputable proof that the last two entries were related to each other, just the opposite… these are subheadings made under the current (3) heading of the Wiener investigation going on at the time, and notes the agent made on issues that may deserve further investigation related to Weiner and his crimes and the information on his devices.
If you’re trying to say that this FBI agent made an explicit mention which tied crimes against children to the Clinton Foundation, I’m sorry man, but you’re wrong. And his own somewhat lackluster mention and pursuit of such to Comey and who knows who else in his briefings, with nothing coming from it, puts the burden on those who say all of this is proof. Because the FBI has been running investigations, stings, and arrests of pedo rings for decades now, both in conjunction with and independent from local LEO efforts, which likewise have born fruit… so it’s not something they’ve been ignoring.
We’re still at the Real Soon Now stage, and until arrests are actually made of bigwigs like Clinton, instead of unrelated small fry miscreants, the burden of proof remains on those who assure us of these heinous CTs going on.
And if anyone is “enabling” Clinton, it’s all the FBI, DoJ, and even Trump himself that refuses to act on all of this “indisputable proof”.
Yes, you can lead a horse to water… but no one cares for the smell of a wet horse..
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Note that, despite the formatting of WordPress removing tabs and spaces, those subheadings were indeed spaced as such underneath heading (3), just in case anyone tries to dispute this issue of what pertains to what.
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So, if even the modified IG report that we’ve been given… including the haid-scratching summary of basically “mistakes were made, let’s move on”… is “chock full of damning evidence”, then where’s the leg irons… where are the perps?
So far we got Weiner serving 21 months for sexting a 15 year old girl.
What else you got from all this “damning evidence”?
Youse yeggs need to take a few courses in basic law and learn the meaning of what comprises “evidence”, especially of the “damning” variety.
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Kind, kind, benevolent Uncle Greg, who carries a CROSS on behalf of his fellow man, once again doing the tedious, thankless work of methodically pointing what you SHOULDN’T look at it. While carefully avoiding offering any sort of alternatives.
Uncle Greg, showing us clueless dimwits what real courage, patriotism and stewardship look like.
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Okay, whenever there’s a “this will happen within X days” we’ve got a line in the sand to watch for… although by your own words, if there was enough “damning evidence” in the released IG report, anything further adds a few shovels to the load that’s already there, amirite?
So you’re saying either the untampered IG report shows up in a week or (((Rosy))) is out on his ass, have I got that?
On a side note, the long-pronounced dead by youse yeggs Mueller investigation still seems to be calling witnesses and, according to the (((MSM))) being broadcast in every airport and hotel, is set to “zero in” on the Russian collusion allegations.
We can all laugh about their continued sputtering, but the point is, like most alt-R echo chamber bombshells, reports of the death of the Mueller Investigation have been greatly exaggerated.
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The fact that Ping Pong keeps up his try-hard smarmy inanities which avoid any cogent discussion of the questions and discrepancies brought up speaks volumes about the credibility of that camp.
And the fact that other yeggs… who have the hide to pontificate about character… give it all a pass sez a lot about youse as well.
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“And the fact that other yeggs… who have the hide to pontificate about character… give it all a pass sez a lot about youse as well.”
They’re at a loss for words, Uncle Greg, due to the awesome magnanimity of your work here, of keeping us all pointed in the right direction.
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Pointing you pointy haids in the right direction is like herding cats, a fool’s errand I eschew.
I merely point out the flaws in your logic… and character… lest some naive peanut gallery sitters be led astray and are caused to stumble.
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“I merely point out the flaws in your logic… and character… lest some naive peanut gallery sitters be led astray and are caused to stumble.”
Uncle Greg….a true shepherd to mankind.
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“Q” is representing Trump…and this is PROVEN?
W T F…nothing whatsoever has been proven at any point.
Jesus used parables…we’ve just compared an anonymous chan troll to Jesus. I mean…o..k…
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Uncle Greg and Try Hard Trav, working together to lead us all towards the light.
We are humbled.
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jackoff I give not two fucks to leading the likes of you anywhere other than extracting your head from your own ass
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Hear that, trav… you and I have become co-conspirators, however reluctant.
I refuse to befriend anyone who would have me as an ally.
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“I refuse to befriend anyone who would have me as an ally.”
Groucho Marx is somewhere smiling down on you Greggy.
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Ah, a jest stands.
Was his real name Mordecai? lzlzlzozlzozlzozlzolzol
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Interesting (long) discussion between two Australian MGTOW’s.
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A bj is a bj.Period. to quote Lauren Bacall, all a girl has to do is purse her lips together and blow.
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Blah. Head, even at its best, is overrated as fuck.
God made your pussy to pleasure Looch. Keep that cock count low and keep it tight for me, hun.
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agree here…most women don’t have a clue what they’re doing. at best just a diversion
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Any gal who actually does it well merits circumspection, nicht wahr?
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/7ce5f0b5-976e-4295-abe2-ad4805d8b79d
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A bj is rarely just a bj.
Relatively few women actually like giving them and even less are actually good at it.
Women use bj to gain resources and commitment or to try and stop the guy from looking elsewhere.
It’s like an unstated contract to them, …. I give you bj; you stick around and give me resources etc.
Also; let’s not forget the role that freely available (((porn))) plays in this.
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The point is the submission. Throat facking a girl who lays her head back, chokes down the vomit, and cries silently while you pound her food tube doesn’t really feel that great. That’s not the point and it’s not what makes it so hawt. It’s the submission.
That’s why it’s such an insult to the poor betas who get the leftover s1uts who bang like a prude. Not because their balls aren’t getting drained or they don’t experience pleasurable tingles in their rod johnson. It’s such a damming insult because she has submitted so fully to so many other men, but don’t for him.
Which also creates the great arms race where you end up pissing in a girl’s mouth, s1apping her, and demanding she tells you she likes it. Before you dump her and the next guy has to $hit in her mouth to top that submission.
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LOLOLOL Tell us more about your epic porn collection, you pathetic online fabulist.
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O/T. Went out for dinner the other day and the waitress serving us was really pretty. Probably about 22 light brown hair, pretty eyes, great body. I’d give her a solid 8.
It just struck me as a total waste. She shouldn’t be serving me pizza. Anybody could do that. Waiting tables is an extremely inefficient use of youth and beauty.
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I disagree… many a future w-i-f-e has been first met in such a manner and venue.
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Another latinofag raping BABIES.
GET THEM OUT OF OUR WORLD.
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/06/29/us/columbia-student-arrested-child-porn-sex-crimes-trnd/index.html
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Gay “pride” events should be illegal. Every one of them fantasizes about raping babies. They are defective mutants. Nothing to be proud of, obviously.
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Read carefully. Who are the adults who provide 2 year old babies to be raped when it’s actually not the FBI setting up a sting? This stuff happens?
This proves child trafficking along the lines of pizza is real.
Trump, the American people demand that you exterminate these beasts.
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No one doubts child trafficking and pedo crimes abound… yearly stings by both federal and local LEOs have been an ongoing occurrence for decades.
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Let me add a bit of CT to the topic at hand.
When I was a kid, bj’s were something you got from a whore, and anal wasn’t even imagined, nor on the table for even the most hardened of putane.
Now, we have kids in junior high discussing it, even bragging about it, as expected activity after three dates.
And what else have we seen, over the past four decades, grow like tentacled vines on the hallowed walls of the best universities?
That right… the Ghey Agenda, to the point where grown men can use the bathrooms of little girls… indeed, insisted by law.
And what’s the first thing a queer will haughtily spew, as if a debate stopping argument, when confronted by their swinish practices?
“Straights do oral and anal too.”
And what (((media))) have pushed all of this degenerate and n1ggerized agenda?
That’s right, ALL of them.
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You were always a nerd, Greg.
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A nerd who’s cleaned your clock on more than one occasion, sock… from way back in the day when you were calling yourself WrongSideOfHistory all through all the others before your honey wagon landed on Looch… which btw, shows marked restraint on your part, given its duration thus far.
And that’s MISTER Eliot to you, moopsie.
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THREE dates? um…lol. Kids these days don’t date anymore. They just “hang out.”
But anyway this shit’s been around forever…you seriously gonna take the word of a woman as to what kind of girl she is?
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Not the point, trav… and your crusade of “they all broken hos” is wearing thin.
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Gayg, your crusade of wtfever-you-are-doing-on-here has worn so thin it would fit in at Auschwitz
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Nice recovery on that lame “gay” stuff you keep attempting… KZ jokes are always a cut-above the usual South Park douchery.
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Greg, you have valid point and I agree with it.
The (((Cultural Subversion))) of the West continues unabated and unless we wake up and fight back; is likely to intensify.
The (((Cultural Subversion))) acts to destroy all beauty and aspiration for good and truth.
It tempts and caters to our lower, animalistic selves.
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“Brazilian football fan dies after slicing open her THROAT when she fell on her wine glass while celebrating team’s victory against Serbia”
“Ms Maiochi, who was single, posted a photo on her Facebook page on May 31 of herself holding a glass of wine.”
She died doing what she loved…
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rooting for an all-mud team.
a phantom mudshark
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Post l-hummer comment I made to my wife recently: “You must have been top of the class in blow job school.”
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If a girly goes to a college with a coed dorm you can just assume she spent 4 years blowing every guy she could see. I’ve found that practice does not make perfect, though. Enthusiasm does.
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Cool story
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gross
saying that to your wife suggests you know she had a lot of experience with men before you. and you wifed up the ho anyway.
sad times we live in where this kind of conversation would even take place
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don’t talk about your mom that way
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weak, try-hard… stick with the concentration camp material.
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!00% on point Cracker…
That is NOT a fuckin’ badge of honor, more weak beta shit as usual here.
I want my “wife” to look at a dick like the goddamn monolith from 2001. Some absurdly unknowable alien object beyond her comprehension. Then, I will TEACH her how to bring it to its full potential, if you catch my meaning.
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Don’t mind me, I’m just here so “king” can hold my dick and show me the “pure and right” way to put it in a woman.
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I like a lot of what King has to say but people chimp out about some strange shit around here.
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careful, I’m not sure you will be able to sustain an erection for as long as it will take him to finish droning on about it. better get some Cialis lol
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Tell us more about your adventures with chink piss-mops, Alpha. It’s why we read the comment section.
Have you ever fucked a white woman under 250 lbs?
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Hold your dick? Like I said, you easily-led victims don’t even know when you’re acting on your same sex attraction.
Your judeo-degenerate understanding of sex is so precious to your fragile identity that any contrary word is a “chimp out.” The only way you can deal with anyone even contemplating the sublimation of the act is to dismiss it as prudish fiction.
If you ever were intimate with a well-adjusted woman, you’d understand the possibilities beyond reenacting your favorite PornTube video. You might even silently take the counterpoint into consideration rather than rushing in to peep-peep your empty and unsolicited disapproval. Instead you try topping each other with tall tales of debasement like schoolboys afraid of being exposed as virgins. You pissed on a woman!?! Well … well … I shit on one! And I made her … made her eat it, yeah!
You’re transparent, and I’m laughing at you.
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I used to tell 1 girl that she was the best because she was & she told me it made her more eager to give them, I considered telling other girls the same thing to make them more enthusiastic, but I’m not that good of an actor.
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