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Diversity + Proximity = The End Of Free Speech

August 28, 2018 by CH

The timeless (and timely) CH maxim Diversity + Proximity = War includes the tacit rider that War can mean any sort of confrontation that doesn’t hit the bloodletting threshold. For instance, Diversity under one sociopolitical umbrella will inevitably result in, first, curbs on free speech and, finally, the gutting of 1A because the number and size of warring tribes won’t agree on the contours of a principle laid out, defended, and deeply felt by Anglo-Protestant White men, and the sphere of bannable “offensive” speech will enlarge to accommodate the sensitivities of increasingly antagonistic and thin-skinned groups all jockeying to acquire the power that will allow them to be the arbiters of which speech counts as “opposing viewpoint” and which is “hate”.

Today, nonWhites and leftoid Whites have allied to exercise full spectrum control over speech and to effectively silence any voices to the right of Shree Baboo. They rationalize their speech suppression with a glib retort that is effortlessly dismantled by Brendan O’Neill:

An MPCer adds a coda that is essentially a reiteration of the Diversity + Proximity = War equation,

Good statement from Brendan O’Neill. To expand on his idea a bit, there are linguistic and ethnic limits to the plausibility of free speech. Free speech as a way of life is communal and depends on conventions (many absorbed unconsciously from homogeneous communities) that lack the power to transcend the gulfs of racial and international difference. The only way to satisfy one-worlders and libertarians on the subject of free speech is to limit it in such a way that no individual is ever allowed to say anything with the potential to offend or hurt the feelings of any other individual, anywhere. Which is preposterous.

Free speech is under attack because the critical mass of its enemies is rising, or you could say that the minimum consensus of its champion is shrinking. It can’t survive without a solid majority of people who have in common a galaxy of shared assumptions about society and only differ about some questions around how society ought to operate. As it stands in America today, the plurality of worldviews being aggressively aired makes free speech anathema. The one worldview that would support free speech (basic Christianity) is the one that is of course ruthlessly suppressed.

The trend lines point to the dissolution of the Bill of Rights. America is only an abstract idea if that idea means the whole world gets to squat here and take a giant dump on Anglo-Protestantism and its codified Weltanschauung (the Constitution).

The two main problems facing free speech proponents trying to reconcile their principle with Mass Diversity are that diversity reduces trust even among Whites (and lower trust means greater suspicion of the intent of others’ speech) and different ethnic/racial groups have different notions about the form taken and value derived of allowable speech. These different notions aren’t alterable by the magic of assimilation; the contradictions go the bone, born before bred.

The backwash of all this Diversity (and virtue signaling for Diversity) is threatening to drown the very ideas that “America is an idea” cheerleaders claim to venerate. Our self-contradictory nation is tearing itself apart and the doxings, deplatformings, and demonetizations are the clearest evidence of it.

If American ideals are to survive, America must jettison its most recent and artificial idea that ideals are separable from blood.

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  1. on August 28, 2018 at 9:16 pm Captain Obvious

    CH: “Our self-contradictory nation is tearing itself apart and the doxings, deplatformings, and demonetizations are the clearest evidence of it.”

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  2. on August 28, 2018 at 9:41 pm cortesar

    free speech is just another lolberterian concept
    it has never existed and never will
    nor it should
    what changes is who is censor and what is censored
    at this point we have all interest to fight for it but come tomorrow and our power restored would you allow again jews or their likes to indoctrinate young impressionable minds and stupid cunts turn them against you and snatch the power from hands
    ——————————————————————————————
    Government is a true religion: it has its dogmas, its mysteries, its priests. To submit it to the individual discussion is to destroy it; it is given life only through the national mind, that is to say, by political faith, which is a creed.
    Joseph de Maistre

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    • on August 28, 2018 at 9:54 pm Libertardian

      “it has never existed”

      Sadly true. Saying something the mob doesn’t want to hear is like walking down a dark alley waving a wad of cash. You may have every right to do it, but…

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      • on August 28, 2018 at 10:00 pm cortesar

        You may have every right to do it, but… what is its purpose, what is its use?

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        False opinions are like false money, struck first of all by guilty men and thereafter circulated by honest people who perpetuate the crime without knowing what they are doing.
        Joseph de Maistre

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    • on August 28, 2018 at 10:29 pm guest

      How about Anglo-Protestants keep their “lolbertarian” freedom of speech and you can do whatever you want in your corrupt shithole.

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      • on August 28, 2018 at 10:33 pm cortesar

        how about you just f*uck off idiot?

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    • on August 28, 2018 at 11:42 pm Libertarian_Pill

      You should say that to the guy in the UK who got arrested for teaching his dog the Nazi salute. Or the historian jailed in Germany for questioning the official narrative. Or the Christians in certain countries affirming their faith in public.

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 4:54 am bogbeagle

      I infer from your post, cortesar, that you rather fancy the idea of becoming the “next Censor” and using the State to impose your particular ideals upon other men.

      Tell us, how do YOU differ from those who are openly Marxist?

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 5:38 am cortesar

        I do not fancy it I consider it necessary if a sane civilisation is to exist
        How it would differ from marxists
        Completely for instance any promotion of degeneracy will be strictly forbidden
        All that promotes sane and healthy would be encouraged
        Do you understood this simple concept

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 11:32 am Mick9

        Well said cortesar.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 11:55 am Les Saunders, Protestant

        I strongly support freedom of speech, expression, of the press, and of assembly.

        It worked wonderfully in the publick meetings in the white clapboard buildings of colonial New Hampshire. And it works well during thanksgiving supper down on the family farm in rural Ontario where everyone can express themselves without self-censorship or has to hide behind political correctness.

        Why does it work? Because all players are on the same team. Not separate teams competing against each other. I can praise Trump at family gatherings and no one will give me a hard time and I won’t be unperson’d because everyone knows that Trump generally represents their interests – the interests of the White working class. Also, because there is a legacy in WASP culture of allowing debate in the room (and we do have debates) without the risk of blacklisting or ostracism.

        The problem now is that we aren’t all on the same team – not even close. Supporting Trump will get banished or blacklisted socially or fired because it’s no longer a debate among equal partners on the same team. It’s competing tribes. And its a competition for survival. Trump represents an audacious and aggressive move by the White man to say that he will not be replaced. And that’s why Trump has become the lightning rod in these publick social media altercations.

        I don’t believe in free speech for my enemies. Forreign invaders, their enablers, traitors, news propagandists, socialists, and Marxists. They don’t want to debate me fairly. They want me dead and gone.

        So no, no free speech for them. They get mass arrests, mass deportations, concentration camps, life sentences, capital punishment for high treason, and doors kicked in at 3am.

        And after that is all done, we get to have our town meetings again on crisp fall nights and debate where we’re putting the garbage dump and whether waste collection will be weekly or biweekly.

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 7:01 am Greg Eliot

      free speech is just another lolberterian concept
      it has never existed and never will
      nor it should
      what changes is who is censor and what is censored
      at this point we have all interest to fight for it but come tomorrow and our power restored would you allow again jews or their likes to indoctrinate young impressionable minds and stupid cunts turn them against you and snatch the power from hands

      Exactly right, and well-said.

      Scripture tells us a fool repeats his mistakes, much as a dog returns to its own vomit.

      So let’s say history somehow gives the West a mulligan… are we gonna do the same “muh Constistution” bullshit that got us into the current malaise all over again?

      God has the right idea… give everyone a chance, and more than a chance, to show what side they’re on… and then just destroy the evil ones. Keep the wheat, burn the chaff, what?

      The difference between God’s rule and Man’s rule, curtailing of muh liberty-wise, is that God would like it to be YOUR idea. 😉

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 7:03 am Greg Eliot

        God gives true freedom… Man’s liberty is often denigrated into mere license of the strong and the mob..

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 7:24 am guest

        Looking forward to the Greg theocracy. As long as I can get a w1f3 with nice tits.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 8:12 am Greg Eliot

        Tits you say? Ask and it shall be granted: 😉

        Proverbs 5:18,19
        Let your fountain be blessed, and rejoice in the wife of your youth, a lovely deer, a graceful doe. Let her breasts fill you at all times with delight; be intoxicated always in her love.

        Song Of Solomon7: 7,8
        Your stature is like a palm tree, and your breasts are like its clusters. I say I will climb the palm tree and lay hold of its fruit. Oh may your breasts be like clusters of the vine, and the scent of your breath like apples,

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 8:37 am mendo

        Smooth, GE. Smooth

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 11:44 am Greg Eliot

        I believe that’s the most likes Scripture ever got ’round chere, go figger.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 12:16 pm mendo

        I’d wager that any Scripture that references beasts in such glowing terms will always be more favored than those that don’t.

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 11:13 am Ocean Shado [bluecitylights.wordpress.com]

      The Bill of Rights is burning.

      Set on fire an hour ago — one hour for one amendment — it burns in effigy on the steps of the Capitol building in Washington, as dindus dance African bongos around it, old white women of sexual invisibility cheer someone else’s suffering, and soyboys with virtue signaling pretensions crouch down playing Magic: The Gathering — all of them Black.

      = = =

      IN MAGIC: THE GATHERING, BLACK IS THE COLOR OF EVIL. PERHAPS THE CARD THEY’RE ALL TURNING UP IS CENSORSHIP: DAMAGE ALL OPPONENTS +2 IF THEY’RE CUCKS, +1 IF THEY’RE MAUL-RIGHT.

      Shado.

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  3. on August 28, 2018 at 9:51 pm Libertardian

    To paraphrase PMan, freedom of speech IS freedom from consequences.

    Libertarians parroting the “fosdmffc” canard are not libertarians, they are liberals (another debased word).

    As someone here once pointed out, “Constitution” means we constitute it. It doesn’t cast some magic shield over our rights, it’s just the formalization of what the people believe. Replace the people and you replace the constitution (as liberals have long since figured out).

    Those polls showing the majority of millennials do not believe in freedom of speech scare the hell out of me.

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  4. on August 28, 2018 at 10:48 pm Oswald Spengler

    Liberty. Security. Diversity.

    You can only have two of the foregoing.

    Choose wisely.

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    • on August 28, 2018 at 11:09 pm realgaryseven

      China, Russia, ‘Merica.

      You can only have two of the foregoing.

      Choose wisely. (Fuck China, IMHO).

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 1:35 am Amasius

        I like this song, tho.

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 6:22 am The Wobbly Guy

      Liberty n security – Japan, Switzerland
      Liberty n diversity – Brazil? Sweden?
      Security n diversity – Singapore

      I’m a Singaporean, btw.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 10:45 am Captain Obvious

        DUDE.

        Switzerland has been pwned by the Rothschilds since the time of John-Cohen/Jean-Cauvin/John-Calvin.

        Why do you think Switzerland has all of those banking SECRECY laws?

        Banking Secrecy == Political Correctness for financial transactions.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 11:12 am pupton1974

        I’ve been to Switzerland recently. Beautiful country, lots of healthy, attractive women, almost no “diversity”, plenty of liberty, plenty of security. Also seems like a healthy, wealthy and wise country. Should be on all of our lists as a bug-out location…should things here turn Brazilian…

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 1:36 pm trav777

        yeah absolutely…switzerland is owned by the swiss for the swiss

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 1:49 pm pulsotic

        Excellent, we need a longer list – some have one, some have two, Never 3
        Germany ~ just diversity
        China ~ just security
        Russia ~
        France ~

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 5:52 pm Lichthof

        Switzerland and Austria will survive and will form a bloc with Italy and Bavaria. I think Eastern Europe will survive (including East Germany).
        Australia will survive.

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 9:48 am Libertarian_Pill

      For women (since this is a site ultimately about game): beauty, brains, moral character. You can have (at most) two of these attributes. Pick wisely.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 2:35 pm The Wobbly Guy

        I don’t know… it’s theoretically possible to get all three, if your game is tight enough. Right?

        For beauty, what’s the threshold? HB8 at least?

        For brains, IQ > 115 (1 std dev)?

        For moral character, how does one even quantify that? Unless you’re referring to a conservative ‘set’ that values all of Haidt’s moral dimensions framework (Care, Fairness, Loyalty, Authority, Sanctity).

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  5. on August 28, 2018 at 11:00 pm Donger

    Can we examine n1gg3r for a moment? How the word became the “worst” and now met with violence, hate, and fury… yet is owned and used by the very vibrant populace who retaliate against it! No sense

    But then we can see Ebonics develop in real time: “finna”
    Finna means gonna. Finna is used in common parlance and vibrant music. It’s derived from typos on a phone’s keyboard. Seriously, instead of correcting typos, they just started saying it – and every day.

    There is a special kind of retarded inflicted on a population like that… I don’t think I’ll ever hear them out on any issue until they revoke their use of both aforementioned words

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 6:00 am Great White

      You sure about that typo thing? I thought it originated from ‘fixing to’.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 6:26 am PA

        Yeah, or “fixing on.” Maybe a black Southern thing. I heard blacks say that back in the Army in the early 90s.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 10:23 am Donger

        Well it looks like I’ve been duped by a friend. Seemed plausible enough – mistakes were made

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 7:26 am Kyo

      I heard “fittin’ ta” (a corruption of “fixing to”) as a kid in the northeast in the ’80s; I’m pretty sure this is the origin; if phone typos were involved, “finna” would be autocorrected to “gonna” as F and I are both one letter to the left of G and O.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 9:13 am Dread Forman

        You’re right

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 7:59 am wontgetthtough

      Early 80’s, maybe even late 70’s.

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 8:52 am NothingMan00

      One groidism that has always fascinated me is “stay” used as a substitute for “live” in the sense of where one dwells. A groid will ask another groid “where you stay?” to get their address or learn their ‘hood. They will also ask this of non-groids. To me it implies “I have no real sense of home, there is simply a residential structure (which can change frequently) where I consume my malt liquor and weed and pass out when I am not prowling the streets or incarcerated.” Sure would love to know the origin of that one.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 9:15 am Dread Forman

        Someone here mentioned that nigger children are always being shuffled around from auntie’s house to auntie’s house.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 5:46 pm Bucky

        You’re personifying them. That stems the problem and confusion. Humans around the world have varying skin tones and facial characteristics but all have one thing in common, hair. The African has fur atop his/her head and therefore isn’t of the same species.

        Have you ever looked into an African’s eyes and seen a soul as you do a fellow human?

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      • on August 30, 2018 at 1:20 am Regular John

        I remember the first time I heard a groid I knew ask another groid where he “stay at” and how odd it sounded to my ear.

        No sense of “home” as we use the word, yes. It makes sense seeing as most negros own nothing and even when they do there is little pride of place as evidenced by the way they maltreat their surroundings. Where the negro goes so follows destruction, litter and degradation of the environment. They attach no meaning to their living space, only to trinkets and baubles(especially articles of clothing and jewelry-Jordan’s and chains)useful in their ostentatious display rituals. The negro can tolerate filthy living conditions which would psychologically unsettle most White people.

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 1:49 pm Elmer T. Jones

      “wypipo” is a racist slur. Social media giants should deplatform anyone who uses it.

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  6. on August 28, 2018 at 11:18 pm elooie

    Funny story..I was at a friend’s event last weekend. I ended up getting into it with a couple of his VC buddies about how feminism is an abomination to 100,000 generations of gender specialization and all the science behind it. We also ended up talking about how immigration and how it’s impacting the United States.

    I won’t bore you with the details but one of them was a closet Trump fan and started backing up my statistics and opinions, another ended up saying I was making good points he hadn’t thought of before and the last one was fumming that I whipped his ass in direct debate. Best part was I’m pretty sure his girlfriend wanted to bang me after I lifted what REAL American is from this site.

    It’s amazing when armed with real talk how quickly the left crumbles. That’s why they are so nuts about censorship.

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 9:16 am Dread Forman

      VC = vietcong?

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 12:03 pm elooie

        Venture Capital.
        An interesting take away that I got from the discussion was that the really hard core left among them only thought in pure economic theory. For example, they falsely equated economic earning potential with Personal value. So when I stated that things like stay at home moms are generally happier and their children are generally more successful and raising children without fathers is culturally damaging they didn’t know how to respond.

        They also tried to only state that any immigration has been been proven to increase GDP by some metric. So I asked why Israel doesn’t bring in every Syrian and Libyan refugee if it’s proven to be a net gain… The answer was because they were culturally incompatible and either there would be violence or the Israeli culture would change. Which was unacceptable so I asked it was acceptable here. Stumped again.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 1:33 pm Captain Obvious

        >>>>> “they didn’t know how to respond”

        Alisa “Ayn Rand” Rosenbaum forgot to include that chapter in her book.

        Ergo her goyische puppets don’t know how to respond.

        SRSLY, you’re dealing with Insula-Dominant/Amygdala-Submissive victims of j00 brainwashing.

        The underlying problem is their Insulae.

        You gotta hit ’em square in the gut in an attempt to provoke a response from their Amygdalae.

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      • on August 30, 2018 at 12:21 am Oleaginous Outrager

        “They also tried to only state that any immigration has been been proven to increase GDP by some metric.”

        If you wanna stump ’em, just ask ’em how ‘GDP’ is calculated.

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  7. on August 28, 2018 at 11:24 pm Corinth Arkadin

    Clown World.

    Nothing makes any sense here. We are trying to make sense of nonsense or from a story told by Raspe’s Baron Munchhausen.

    Indeed it as if Kafka’s writings were inverted to fit society rather than Kafka fitting his ideas to what society was to him.

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 11:02 am Captain Obvious

      CA, I don’t understand what you just wrote, but do you understand that (((Kafka))) was a propagandist whose sole intent was to destroy you and Your Race?

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 12:08 pm jeff

        Good Gawd!

        Thank you CO!

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  8. on August 28, 2018 at 11:44 pm stuartsullivaniii

    If Twitter had been around during WWII, and Hitler used it to tweet about possibly invading the Sudetenland, would he have been banned for “threats of violence” like some people are trying to ban Trump for tweeting about N. Korea? What good would that have served? “Oh @Jack, you want the Czechs to be *surprised*, is that it?”.

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  9. on August 29, 2018 at 6:45 am Angry Gamer

    Free Speech cannot happen without words. We have words with stigma’s so great that we merely use the first letter. The implication is that if one says “the word that shall not be named” then violence will follow.

    Meanwhile other “bad” words get added to those one letter words. So many words may not be said now that I believe that we have entered into a modern day Doublespeak.

    George Orwell in 1984 made the strong association that controlling a words meaning and usage controls a persons thoughts. I see this with younger people today they can’t say certain one letter words. They can’t even think it. Thus it’s hard for them to even articulate a bad thing about a one letter ethnic group. So no wonder they don’t realize the very real reason why those words were invented to describe certain ethnicities negative traits. Like a warning sign to society.

    We have taken out all the linguistic stop signs in our international village and are surprised that car crashes happen followed by knife fights. I know of Asian American Dads who are repeatedly calmly deprogramming their Asian sons as to the real threats of interacting with certain ethnic groups. Calmly explaining that an Asian young man walking or driving alone in certain places in urban America has a “Easy Victim” sign in neon lights over his head.

    I did not believe this could be reality. But then I saw an Asian family in a minivan accosted at a street corner by a well known local panhandler. This guy never bothered anyone else for the months that I saw him. But there he was in the face of this terrified Asian dad, beating on the window demanding money to go away. I’ve seen this more since I started looking for it.

    Diversity with certain ethnic groups is not our strength. In fact it appears to be making certain segments of the public appear weaker and thus more exploitable.

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 5:55 pm Bucky

      I was in a meeting today laying out a system architecture. The term “master slave configuration” came up as a redundant solution. The woman in the room asked if we can still call it that (sheesh wyatt gilt) while periodically bashing Trum-p with her iphag updates. can’t see the forest for the trees.

      Something about his old COO is turning on him or otherwise state jail so Trum cant pardon him, all gleeful as she works all day to fund browns and lesser.

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  10. on August 29, 2018 at 6:55 am Greg Eliot

    Even in the Wild West, where freedom reigned supreme, if you were going to call another man a son of a bitch, you had better be prepared to draw your gun.

    There never was and never will be “free speech” the way most people talk about it these days.

    From time immemorial, if you pissed off the wrong person, the idea of “rights” was shown to be just that, merely an idea.

    In reality, EVERYTHING has consequences… and what’s wrong with the West today is that there are no longer consequences, so long as you degrade the right people.

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  11. on August 29, 2018 at 6:56 am brabantian

    Some relevant genealogy for the impeachy times in which we live, thanks to Aangirfan on her site

    Turns out the Pences of Indiana, including US veep Mikey Pence, have relatives in a certain eastern Mediterranean tribal state, and also relatives of that group locally in ‘murica

    From the biblio-end-times press, ‘Meet Mike Pence’s orthodoxxing, joyaish isra cousins’ … Jesse Socher living on the Golan, son in i.d.f. uniform, Tammy Socher, Richard Pence, and Merrill Socher-Axelrod, who told Mikey on the 2016 trail about his family relations in a country to which Mikey already expresses deep loyalty

    Mike Pence’s mom, Nancy, was born as ‘Cawley’ which can be a name from a certain group … ‘Pence’ is a “made-up Ellis Island name … It doesn’t really come from England” tho it sounds very classic-Anglo

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 10:39 am Captain Obvious

      URLs?

      Thanks.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 10:51 am guest

        This turns up on something called (((Breaking Israel News))) from a couple years back. It’s just some bullshit blog post.

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      • on August 30, 2018 at 12:26 am Oleaginous Outrager

        ‘Pence’ is a “made-up Ellis Island name

        This bullshit about “they made-up names on Ellis Island!” needs to stop. They may have misspelled things, but the shit like they showed in the Godfather Part 2 didn’t happen.

        As for ‘Pence’ specifically …

        https://www.houseofnames.com/pence-family-crest

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 10:51 am guest

      You’re posting fake news.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 11:40 am Greg Eliot

        I thought the rules ’round chere sez not to gainsay any fake news that happens to be OUR fake news?

        😉

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  12. on August 29, 2018 at 6:58 am unh

    CH: “If American ideals are to survive, America must jettison its most recent and artificial idea that ideals are separable from blood.”

    John McCain (From his Farewell letter): “We are citizens of the world’s greatest republic, a nation of ideals, not blood and soil. We are blessed and are a blessing to humanity when we uphold and advance those ideals at home and in the world. “

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 8:40 am tteclod

      Generation Zyklon and its descendants will remember Senator John McCain as the exemplar of everything that nearly caused the genocide of Americans.

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  13. on August 29, 2018 at 7:03 am WM

    In what universe did basic Christianity ever support free speech? Early Christians burned the works of men who criticized them, the catholic hitch tortured and murdered people as heretics when they voiced dissent, and American Christians are always blathering about the need to ban stuff – DnD, heavy metal, Harry Potter, video games, etc

    Freedom of Speech is a product of enlightenment secularism, not Christianity. The men who wrote the bill of rights were not Christian, they were deists and Freemasons.

    Really weird the amount of ahistorical retconning about Christianity on right wing websites, especially when those websites are centred around fornication out of wedlock

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 7:14 am Greg Eliot

      The men who wrote the bill of rights were not Christian, they were deists and Freemasons.

      So why was the Bible taught in every school and throughout colleges as a major subject?

      That whole “forefathers were deists” bullshit is nonsense spun from whole cloth and perpetuated by the likes of the HuffPo ilk.

      The fact that some, like Paine, may have been outright deists, and a few others couched their language at times in diest-sounding memes, means little when compared to the entirety of the population and the founding fathers themselves… virtually all to a man baptised and raised in orthodox Christianity and attending church with their families throughout their lives.

      The foundations of this country were inarguably Christian, and anyone who tries to maintain otherwise is merely carrying water for modern liberal theology.

      (now here is where you provide your links and I provide mine, and nobody listens anyway, so months from now we’ll go through it all again)

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 1:40 pm trav777

        fuckin liar, the bible was never taught. What the clergy wanted were taught

        take your religiosity and shove it

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 7:53 pm Greg Eliot

        Liar yourself… if the book was opened and Scripture was read, the Bible was taught. And people could read for themselves as well, and the vast majority of homes had their own Bible studies for themselves and their children.

        Anyone who claims the original colonies weren’t Christian is the liar.

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 8:23 am Greg Eliot

      The more one thinks about what “deist” entails, the less sense it makes outside of the realm of man’s conceit in affecting airs of objectivity and a form of “rational thought” in that one having not spoken directly to a named being, therefore whatever it is must have no name.

      By it’s very root, it denotes a belief in a “Supreme Being” that is the Creator. of Man, indeed, the entire Universe.. ergo, barring a specific name, it jibes with Christianity on that accord.

      So now one would have to explain why such a “supreme” being would choose to remain anonymous and have otherwise no direct contact or communication with its creation… no Word, as it were, to guide and establish some sort of at-one-ment with the most sentient of said creation, Man.

      I’ll leave that debate for another time, but anyone who wants to claim America was not founded as a Christian nation would have to show that NO mention whatsoever of the Bible or any of its legends, proverbs, or prophecies or of Christ was ever uttered or written by said founding fathers, keeping in mind the mores, education standards, and practices of the population of the country at the time, and the fact that the establishment of a country is far more than any one or two documents.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 11:39 am bigjohn33

        If the founding fathers intended the United States to be a Christian nation they could have easily (and constitutionally) done so when they drafted the first naturalization and citizenship act of 1790. They didnt. They restricted citizenship to “free white persons of good character”. Conspicuously absent from that was any mention of religious affiliation.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 11:55 am Greg Eliot

        Nice try (not really), but when we speak of a Christian nation, we’re not talking about codification of such… probably because the concept of Christian, even then, was so vanilla as to be all-encompassing of White Europeans.

        Point is, when founding a nation of “free white persons”, there’s a large assumption, and a correct one at the time, that the vast majority of that category are Christians.

        I say again, the Bible was an integral part of all schooling, and indeed, nearly every early college considered it a major course of instruction.

        And if you were not a church-goer, at least nominally, you probably weren’t in high standing in ANY community.

        A mere “deist” nation is not made up of such folk, nor do they use ‘heathen’ as an epithet, which to the early colonists was synonymous with “savage”.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 12:23 pm bigjohn33

        If the goal was a Christian nation there would have been no reason not to codify it.

        Take the NRA as an example. I would guess the founders of the organization were overwhelmingly Christian, as are most of the members today. That does not mean it is a Christian organization.

        The early inhabitants of the US were overwhelmingly Christian but the organization the nation they created in the United States was not Christian. It easily could have been. But it wasnt.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 12:44 pm jeff

        And if you want to say idol worship is christianity, then yes the Catholic church persecuted millions of…? Christians. They did not believe in the Catholic church and therefore the RCC persecuted them. Crusades? Christians and Catholics killing murderous sand nigger moslems who were killing in the name of Allah, the moon god.

        Not that there aren’t christian Catholics because there are, but praying to a dead person who isn’t an omnipotent being to help you is the same as worshiping a live being who is either a thing or a created thing. Idol worship, Romans 1:25 and as guilty as the Joos who worshipped the Holy Altar instead of He who made the Altar Holy.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 1:41 pm trav777

        fuck this death cult.

        the abolitionists were staunchly christian…it says right there in the bible that we’re all the same to god

        come to jesus n’ shit and a nigger is just the same as you.

        Fuck this crap

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 7:58 pm Greg Eliot

        If the goal was a Christian nation there would have been no reason not to codify it.

        Except that the gummint, rightfully so, did not want to codify support for any given religion… whereas the colonies themselves made it plain as far as Catholic, Protestant, etc.

        You’re splitting hairs trying to maintain that the US wasn’t founded on Christian principles and by Christian people. The original government’s intention was freedom OF religion in re Christianity and its various flavors, not freedom FROM religion.

        Disingenuous fucks trying to interpret history according to their own muh antiChristian biases… did you think the Founding Fathers didn’t care whether this became a jewish or muslim nation?

        Getting awful tired of you antiChristian idiots who don’t realize you’re carrying water for the Sahhedrin.

        Let’s just keep losing, shall we?

        (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 10:24 pm Samuel Skinner

        Greg is right. The reason the constitution didn’t establish a Christian nation is because it was the responsibility of the state governments; the bill of rights didn’t apply to them until after the 1920s (when the Supreme Court decided it liked UNLIMITED POWER).

        ” “The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second Amendment means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress, and has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the National Government.””
        -United States v. Cruikshank 1876

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      • on August 30, 2018 at 8:30 am Greg Eliot

        the abolitionists were staunchly christian…it says right there in the bible that we’re all the same to god

        We’ve been through that misinterpretation of Scripture before… and several times at that. And fuckwit, how did other Christians handle those abolitionists, when they got out of hand? Did you mean the abolitionists that killed women and children? THOSE Abolitionists, staunch Christians they be?

        Wake up to yourself, fool.

        You claim you’re nearly fifty years old, but you have the attention span and reasoning of a junior-high level girl, both in the way you argue and the way you purposely ignore anything that doesn’t fit your narrow prejudices… ignore, and then days/weeks/months later on yet another thread spew the same bullshit.

        I’m disgusted with your overpriced ravioli-eating, n1gger-fucking,self. Yo’ daddy didn’t smack enough sparks off’n yo’ addled haid when you were a boy… assuming, of course, you even knew who yo’ daddy was.

        (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • on August 30, 2018 at 8:42 am bigjohn33

        It is not hair splitting. America was founded as a White nation, for white people and their posterity. Christianity was optional. White and Christian are not synonymous. Muh Thomas Jefferson.

        The fact that Christianity influenced the culture is irrelevant. I think the NRA analogy is apt. Even if 100% of NRA members are Christian, and even if “christian principles” (whatever that means) influenced the founding of it that does not necessarily make it a Christian organization, especially since membership is open to non-christians and the stated mission of the organization makes no mention whatsoever of Christ.

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      • on August 30, 2018 at 9:16 am Greg Eliot

        You keep mistaking the idea that the Founding Fathers wanted to avoid the baggage of an official national church with the idea that they somehow weren’t Christian themselves and didn’t heavily favor and ASSUME a Christian nation of White men and women.

        Don’t try to make it out like the Founding Fathers were trying to escape FROM religion, or that they wanted to establish a country of agnostics and atheists.

        Regardless of their personal beliefs and verbiage used in what turned out to be useless documents of muh freedom (I think Franklin was one of the few to foresee the vanity and future danger of muh Constitution, but that’s a debate for another day), America was first and foremost a Christian nation and established for the benefit and lebensraum of White Christians.

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 11:00 am Captain Obvious

      >>>>> “Really weird the amount of ahistorical retconning about Christianity on right wing websites, especially when those websites are centred around fornication out of wedlock”

      That’s because we’re analyzing these phenomena instinctually [with our hindbrains], whereas your forebrain is attempting to analyze these phenomena through the haze of the psychological warfare campaigns known as IDEOLOGY [of which you do not even realize you are a victim & a puppet & a s1ave].

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  14. on August 29, 2018 at 7:11 am Mr. Yeti

    “Consequences” just means “Punishment.” In other words, “We have ended free speech and will decide for you what thoughts you may express.”

    Looking forward to working at the future Bureau of Relocation to decide which GoodWhytes will be relocated to live with their pets.

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  15. on August 29, 2018 at 8:27 am williamk

    The formal, legislative end of free speech is a major goal of the left and would be terrible (first thing banned will be inquiring about the Holocaust). However, we already have soft ban on free speech. We’re all under pseudonyms here for a reason. Stating simple statistical facts about race and gender and ethnic antagonists can get you fired and ostracized from any established path to social status. While playing defense is important, we should also being going on offense and take back some ground, not just through legislation, but by retaking important institutions.

    You can’t have a real debate if both sides have to agree to blank slate equalism before the debate begins.

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 8:36 am Greg Eliot

      Aye, there’s the rub… how does one go about these days wrestling control of the (((MSM))) away from (((those))) who control it?

      Funny how the biggest proponents of free speech will only rail about the symptoms, but never dare name the disease.

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 9:22 am Dread Forman

        Some of that there legislation about censoring on the innernet

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  16. on August 29, 2018 at 10:52 am Ryu

    No, living under the jews removes “muh freedom of speech”.

    No one runs Police States better than the jew. It isn’t the niggers or spics taking your rights and freedoms away. Jews at the top and white STEMers putting their brains to work for ZOG are doing that.

    The only two groups today that truly believe in FOS are the most extreme WNs and a few libertarians.

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  17. on August 29, 2018 at 10:55 am Captain Obvious

    Wesleyans prepare to endorse Ab0rtion http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3683163/posts

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  18. on August 29, 2018 at 11:55 am Captain Obvious

    Common STDs Hit New U.S. Record http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3683208/posts

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 11:56 am Captain Obvious

      In a disturbing national trend, the number of three common sexually transmitted diseases hit a record high last year, with nearly 2.3 million cases reported in the U.S. – eclipsing the record set in 2016 by more than 200,000 cases, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

      Comparing data from 2013 with 2017’s preliminary data showed “steep, sustained increases” in reported cases of chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis, the CDC said, also warning that gonorrhea is showing signs of becoming resistant to the antibiotics used to treat it.

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 12:06 pm Cracker

      and the response you get from most is that there needs to be more sex education in schools or somesuch. that is absurd because it’s all taught in schools nowadays in earlier and earlier grades all the time. everyone knows what STDs are and how you get them

      solution is for people to stop whoring around with garbage people who have STDs

      used to be shameful to get STDs because it was proof you were slumming with dirty degenerates. now it’s become normalized, accepted. everyone has them, don’t STD shame!

      gotta have standards gentlemen

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      • on August 29, 2018 at 12:26 pm jx

        better yet, stop importing garbage people.

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 1:42 pm trav777

      aw shit, niggers again

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 1:44 pm trav777

      aww shit, niggers again

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    • on August 30, 2018 at 12:33 am Oleaginous Outrager

      Yes, but common to whom?

      You mean like this? pic.twitter.com/vunNuoV725

      — ♱Dr. Mirabilis♱ (@FraterRogerus) August 29, 2018

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      • on August 30, 2018 at 6:14 am Greg Eliot

        Oh, but Laci has the answer! It’s the gummint and “folks”!

        why are STI rates so high? likely a bunch of things:
        -huge budget cuts to public health & edu programs
        -most people infected don’t know
        -folks not getting tested regularly
        -unprotected sex *duh*
        -it’s possible PreP (HIV prevention pill) has played a role by giving false security

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  19. on August 29, 2018 at 12:33 pm LiberTarHeel

    Two subjective observations:

    1. No True Scotsman (heh heh … er, libertarian) would ever support the concept ascribed to him. The problem with labels is that they are routinely misapplied. That’s part of the whole ongoing battle over speech.

    2. I hate to rain on some parades, but the right of “free speech” did not emanate from the US Constitution (i.e. BoR) any more than from the preceding English version. Related news flash for the woefully uninformed: neither did the right to life/self-defense.

    Thanks for playing!

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 1:16 pm guest

      The more urgent issue here at the Chateau/alt-right is that your Anglo-Protestant conception of rights goes bye bye if Satan’s Jew-mud-faggot-barren cunt army wins. Now that will be rain on your fucking parade.

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  20. on August 29, 2018 at 1:05 pm baked georgia

    there’s no freedom of speech in the rest of the world already, that’s why there’s so many foreigners in american websites hehehe we’re the “real” political refugees.

    (yes, I know the freedom is relative)

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  21. on August 29, 2018 at 1:53 pm Truth-hammer

    The Wife: “Honey, does this dress make me look fat?”
    Me: My inner voice (I am a man and have the right of free speech)– “Why yes dear, it makes you look fat.”
    The Wife: “You are sleeping on the couch tonight.”
    Me: “Damn the Founding Fathers!”

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    • on August 29, 2018 at 5:44 pm Solon64

      Response: “No, I think I’ll be sleeping in the bed that I bought under the roof that I pay for. If you don’t like it, feel free to sleep on the couch yourself, yes, that couch which I ALSO bought. You’re welcome.”

      Take your balls back, dude, don’t let some woman tell you that you can’t sleep in your own damn bed.

      And if you come back and say she’ll divorce you, well, that proves that a) she’s ungrateful and doesn’t deserve your presence, and b) its your fault for having no foresight in signing a legal document that essentially says “fuck me over whenever you feel like, honey.”

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      • on August 30, 2018 at 1:29 am Regular John

        Talk about your jests fallen flat.

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  22. on August 29, 2018 at 5:14 pm Alfred E. Neuman

    Reblogged this on FOR GOD AND COUNTRY.

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  23. on August 29, 2018 at 5:47 pm Lichthof

    I have noticed an internet search crackdown.
    In 2003 & 2004 when Westerners were getting beheaded in Iraq you could watch these clips easily on the web. All kinds of independent sites were easily found.
    I use love reading soccer gang blogs about past encounters. I can’t find any of them now.
    Any search brings up the same news sites (CNN, Huffpo etc).

    No crackdown on porn though.

    But I think they are worried. The MSM has lost its grip. Every comment section I watch on you tube (cbs, msnbc, NYT etc) I see woke comments all the time.
    Serious woke comments. The type you see on Rt.com.
    Alot of MSM had to disable the comments section.
    They can never regain that battleground. They’ve lost that war.

    Surely any teenager who stumbles across this has to go ‘what’s this?’ and see there is another world out there.

    I really do not know how they can reclaim this battleground. An entire new generation is waking up.
    At a Trump rally I remember a lot of people my age (38) saying 9/11 woke them up. We had the web and the whole CT genre. They may have been brought up shitlib but they were voting Trump. And they knew the tactics of the msm and were immune to it.

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  24. on August 29, 2018 at 7:51 pm Moses

    I’ve been saying for years that the second America tips non-White majority is the second America trashes the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

    The Vibrants will say “The Constitution is White construct and not applicable to us.”

    And they will be right.

    Concepts like “freedom of speech” and “free press” have roots in White European culture. These ideas have germinated in NO other cultures. These ideas are against their nature.

    If you think about it the cultures, legal systems and societies that Whites have created are outliers in the human experience. We are the freaks, not the vibrants.

    Have you traveled extensively? I have. Most countries outside White countries (with the exception of East Asia) are dirty, brutal sh*tholes. That is the true state of humanity.

    They will bring us to down to their level. And we let them do it.

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    • on August 30, 2018 at 6:10 am Greg Eliot

      Muh Constitution and muh Bill Of Rights is the reason we’re in this current malaise.

      Stupid documents meant to protect us from tyranny, yet led us right into a new and more heinous form of tyranny… one that legalized our downfall… worse than one tyrant is 9 tyrants bolstered by a facade of legality, (((MSM))) minions and a rising tide of colored street armies soon to comprise a majority… hail, muh democracy… liberte, egalite, fraternite… except for Whites.

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      • on August 30, 2018 at 9:18 am Moses

        “Muh Constitution and muh Bill Of Rights is the reason we’re in this current malaise.”

        Yes and that’s not the whole story.

        The Constitution and Bill of Rights work great for a supermajority White nation where people share a common heritage and values. No problems at all. See: American history.

        It’s when we introduce multikult and hordes of other races into the equation that things go awry. They weaponize the Constitution and use it against Whites to gain ethnocentric power and open interdimensional poz portals to bring in more of their sh*thole brethren to America.

        The second these hordes get control the boot is coming down on White necks (see South Africa). Then they’ll trash the Constitution so it can’t be used against them.

        The addition of racially aware immigration policy (such as America had from 1924 to 1965, and Japan, China, Israel et al have today) would have closed this backdoor weakness of the Constitution.

        This will have to get worse for Whites before they get better. And they will get better. But it may not be a pretty process.

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      • on August 30, 2018 at 9:21 am Moses

        Oh and btw universal suffrage was — and is — a terrible idea. Many (most?) people have no business voting. The Founding Fathers knew it too.

        In early America suffrage generally was limited to White men who were landowners.

        Lee Kwan Yew expressed qualms about universal suffrage. That man was woke.

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      • on August 30, 2018 at 9:30 am Greg Eliot

        Muh democracy… millions of illegal votes aside, the system of gummint in which an 18 year old crack whore has the same voice and decision-making ability as a doctor, an astronaut, or a factory owner providing jobs for 100 men.

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    • on August 30, 2018 at 7:05 am Ironsides

      “All men are created equal.” More doom-laden words of doom were ever written.

      Yes, I know that wasn’t the original intent. But we’re talking about a fanatical religion here, not a logical analysis using citations and documents to analyze the meaning.

      That phrase now has the same resonance with the wild-eyed cultists as “Allahu Akhbar!” does to a chap sporting a bomb belt as a fashion accessory.

      That, plus that damn poem on the Statue of Liberty, may be the epitaph on the White man’s grave. Thanks, Founders, for those five accursed words with which you established the Cult of Egalitarian Madness.

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      • on August 30, 2018 at 7:06 am Ironsides

        Babbled that up. “No more doom-laden words of doom were ever written” is what it should say.

        Gadzooks.

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      • on August 30, 2018 at 11:21 am Captain Obvious

        >>>>> “that damn poem on the Statue of Liberty” (((Emma Lazarus))) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Lazarus

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      • on August 30, 2018 at 11:25 am Captain Obvious

        >>>>> “All men are created equal.”

        The latest news is that Jefferson probably had a Sephardic Y-Chromosome. https://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/28/us/28jefferson.html

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  25. on August 29, 2018 at 9:44 pm Dr.Benway

    Russia is taking the White South Africans
    http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/russia-welcomes-afrikaners-15000-boers-plans-to-move-to-russia-from-south-africa/

    But don’t worry boys, the US will get the equal number of Zulus

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  26. on August 30, 2018 at 7:49 am Mr. Yeti

    I have always said that by the time They are done with Us that all we will be able to enjoy will be fornication, blasphemy, and porn.

    Note that all three of these activities involve absolutely not threat to Those Who Rule.

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  27. on August 30, 2018 at 8:34 am Stoly

    Omitting science in the name of ideology

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/30/brown-u-pulls-gender-dysphoria-study-worried-that-findings-might-invalidate-perspectives-transgender-community.html

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    • on August 30, 2018 at 10:22 am Greg Eliot

      Note the poopyspeak, which actually applies to ANY study, but only gets brought up when said study doesn’t agree with the (((ghai))) PC:

      “The spirit of free inquiry and scholarly debate is central to academic excellence … At the same time, we believe firmly that it is also incumbent on public health researchers to listen to multiple perspectives and to recognize and articulate the limitations of their work.”

      Funny how you never hear about listening to “multiple perspectives” or articulations of “limitations of the work” when the study pushes the correct agenda, amirite?

      (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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  28. on August 30, 2018 at 10:07 am Tim from Nashua

    Back to Diversity + Proximity = The End of Free Speech: Saying “to monkey this up” is RAAAAACIST! ( Shrieks of Moral Outrage Commence)

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