Catfish Game

An emailer asks me for the details about how I run Catfish Game.

Hi,

I want the details about the fake profile pics and pulling girls. You basically catfish them?

Thanks

Basically, yes. Sometimes. Or the fake pic is so obviously fake that it’s not really a catfish, but an opportunity to wildly flirt with the girl and issue increasingly brazen challenges to her to overcome her “weird suspicions”. It’s what I call Gaslight Game, and the objective is to corrupt the girl’s comfortable grip on reality and make her think she’s going a little bit crazy believin’ her lyin’ eyes and her gatekeepin’ thighs. It’s akin to the advice I have given to men who get caught cheating: deny deny deny, until your woman starts to question her sanity.

It’s hard to give too many revealing details, what with the heat around every corner, but a couple of commenters provided personal techniques that are similar to what I do. From Chris,

I did exactly this all throughout 2012-2015 when I was on POF.

I used to hate being seen by locals on that sewer of a site, and so always used fake pics (that were, admittedly, a reasonably close resemblance to how I actually looked). I used to hunt for someone like me on Google Images.

The thing is, 50% of chicks never remarked on anything untoward when they met me, and when the other 50% mentioned me not looking like my photos I shrugged my shoulders and said “photos can be funny like that”. I actually had a girl I had been seeing on the regular (for around 4 months) finally discover one afternoon I had used fake pics; she was really upset that she had been duped, but it didn’t stop me from continuing to plough her.

One of the other reasons I used fake pics was that I could run no-holds-barred asshole game on these girls with the confidence of anonymity.

Those were my best years in game.

100% cosign. I use two methods. The one Chris describes here (similar looking photo and nonchalant dismissal of the woman’s suspicions) and a supplementary method where I choose a fake photo looking nothing like me and then challenge the girl to see past the pic and ask herself what kind of sexy asshole would think he could get away with this *wink*. Or, like I mentioned above, I’ll turn on the gaslight and make her think she’s nuts for even questioning my moral rectitude. The overall effect is a positive one: “who does this guy think he is?”

From HEM, a reminder that if you’re gonna try Catfish Game, you had better have command of your frame,

I like to do this when I get bored. I actually prefer not even using a pic at all. But, sometimes I’ll use a scenic pic of some exotic place. Put something interesting in the profile bio (eg something that illustrates you’re intelligent and witty, as well as explicitly state that you’re alpha; the alpha can also be referenced in the screen name) and prob about 30% will respond. Of those, half will immediately ask for a pic. I usually trash them. The other half are receptive to what you have to say. Be straight-forward, brash and cocky. Never compliment their looks. Never apologize for something jerky that you say. You’ll be amazed at the results.

These are generally useful rules for online and offline dating. Truth is, there is plenty of overlap between the techniques advised for each realm of pickup.

No Pic Game is a cousin of Fake Pic Game, and the tactical payload is the same: zero fucks given sexiness combined with an enticing challenge to a woman to rise above her lameness. Plus, follow the general rule that a big component of any online pickup is radical pre-screening. The numbers are there, so there’s no good reason not to screen.

Final note. I can drop one vagnette from my worldstar. If I meet an online prospect for a first date who has not seen my real pic, she naturally will be stunned once our faces are inches apart. I immediately move to reduce her anxiety: “Yeah, I know, you’re pleasantly surprised. Even better in real life than in photos.” This gets a laugh. If it doesn’t, I follow up, “If you keep acting weird, I’m gonna think you’re a serial killer. Some guys are into that. Not me.” See what I did there? What would normally be a defensive position is upturned and the onus to act like a normal person is placed on her.

If she bites on all this, she will get around to asking me why I chose a fake pic. I measure her buying temp and use that to decide wether to continue whimsically gaslighting her or to get real and confess that the fake pic is there to a) evade the feds or b) screen for really shallow women. Now she’s feeling a need to prove she’s not shallow. Off to the races!

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How To Know You Have The Tightest Game

You use fake photos* in your online dating profiles and still manage to gently persuade shocked and confused dates to relinquish the poosy.

Details available upon inquest.

*gotta keep the heat off your tail

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A Woman’s Thoughts Just Before They Turn To Sex

If the look on a woman’s face says, “Who does this guy think he is?”, you may begin the cuntdown to the parting of her red sleeve. Sometimes, she will forget to keep it a thought and blurt it out.

THE DULCET NOTE OF QUIMDIGNATION: Who do you think you are?

THE BANE OF XIRS, XES, AND XOOPS: *innocently* A choirboy.

If a girl thinks you think of yourself very highly, she will too. It’s the vajitational pull of entitled alpha attitude.

Cock and awe. If she’s trying to figure out if you’re for real, she’s psychologically one foot across the bedroom threshold already. A proper tingle should always leave a woman pleasantly stunned.

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A Common Shit Test And Beta Bait

Will has a Game question regarding two common refrains a man might hear from a woman he is boffing or pre-boffing,

2 things I will pay big money for CH

define big. (pesos don’t count)

when a girl asks “what are you looking for” and you have fucked already

“How old are you”
Will donate

“What are you looking for?” is classic beta bait. The girl saying it doesn’t want the implied goopy beta romanticism. She wants electricity, which means a reply that defies her expectation. Beta bait is anything a woman says which traps beta males into exposing the soft core of their weepy hearts.

The CH archives are loaded with posts delving into these topics, and in particular the two scenarios Will mentions here. Acceptable replies to a pre-sex “what are you looking for?”:

There is only one way to answer an early game, pre-sex “what are you looking for?” stinky-ass beta bait:

“A delicious ham sandwich.”

Do try and say it with a straight face for maximum amusement.

Answering any other way will only make the bang more difficult to achieve. Why construct unnecessary obstacles to yourself? If she presses the matter, then you will have to get serious with her. But there is a right way and a wrong way to patronize a woman’s shit testing.

Wrong way: Play into her frame.

• “I’m not looking for anything serious right now.”

Why give her an excuse to stop seeing you?

• “I haven’t thought about it. Why do you ask?”

Why give her an excuse to continue harping on the subject?

• “I’m looking for something serious.”

Lying is unnecessary in this situation, as I will demonstrate below. Also, saying this risks turning her off if you miscalculate and she’s *not* looking for something serious.

Right way: Control the conversation.

• “I’m dating around until I find that one woman I really click with. I think anything serious should develop naturally, and not be forced. Don’t you?”

If the girl asks you this after sex, then you will need to employ more tact. Assume she has bonded to you in some meaningful capacity (jizz is lady glue); this means you can easily overplay glib responses that make her sad.

You can start with the ham sandwich joke, but if she asks again, you’ll want to initiate strong eye contact and say through a dreamily contented grin, “We’ll see”. Girls interpret this reply to mean “we’ll see if I’m good enough for him. ooh, exciting!”. Just as good: “I don’t know, but when I find it, you’ll be the first to know”.

If she’s really sincere and earnest in the asking, but you aren’t *there* yet, then assuage her anxiety with a calming “Let’s take this slow. There will be time for heavy talk later.”

If she’s there, and you’re there, and you are confident this isn’t stinky beta bait, then let ‘er rip:

“I’ve already found it”.

Big Quip Energy!

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Part Deuz. “How old are you?”

This is a shit test. Usually, much younger women will ask it of older men. Sometimes, older women ask it of younger men. Not nearly often enough, men ask it of women (they should ask more often to put the girl in the defensive crouch where…all together now…poosy perturbations are born.

As with all female shit tests, the objective is to pass them by not trying to pass them, if you catch my drift. Reworded: don’t play into her frame. Blow it up, or reframe to a conversational path that is more beneficial to you.

The general rule is to never act defensive, or sorry for what you may perceive to be an unbridgeable age gap. Instead, you want to turn the tables, and refute the tacit premise of her question by making her think she ISN’T UP TO YOUR STANDARDS.

This could mean disqualifying her as a prospect, or disqualifying yourself. Ex:

GIRLY: How old are you?

LINDSEY GRAHAM’S FANTASY FUEL: Too young/old for you.

or, assume the sale and then DQ with a set-up to a challenge:

“If you’re flirting, forget it. You’re too young. I like sophisticated women.”

She won’t be able to resist chomping down on the male version of beta bait: waif bait.

It’s also helpful to set the frame early, before she veers into airing her concerns about the age difference:

“I’ve noticed some women are nervous in the company of older men. It’s like they get intimidated and feel they aren’t good enough. You’re not like that, are you?”

More Game goodness: there are “Age Negs“:

Her: How old are you?
You: You first.
Her: 25.
You: Oh oh.
Her: What?
You: I don’t normally date older women. They have too many issues in my experience.

This neg is especially effective when the girl is considerably younger than yourself. Imagine a 35 year old guy telling a 22 year old girl she’s too old for him. It quickly reverses the frame in your favor.

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Her: How old are you?
You: Guess.
Her: 28.
You: Close. And you’re… 27.
Her: No, 23.
You: Oh no, really?
Her: Yeah, why?
You: I like to date older women. Everyone knows they’re more mature and classy.

Notice I used the term “everyone knows”. It’s a bit jarring in the context of this short conversation, but that doesn’t matter. Girls are very sensitive to groupthink, so my words will have the intended effect — to put her in the role of the one seeking approval.

Finally, you can simply evade the question with a sneaky rhetorical trick:

HER: how old are you?

YOU: guess

HER: 32

YOU: wow! you’re good at this.

Then change the subject. She’ll think you’re 32, but you never actually answered her question. All you said was that she was good at guessing your age, which could mean she guessed correctly, plus or minus ten years.

PS Here is a list of effective tactics for overcoming any possible age objections from a girl.

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Your Daily Game: The Box Out

The Box Out — a nonverbal physical disqualification maneuver — is a repurposing of a move that you’ll see little boys do when little girls encroach on their turf. It involves the boy boxing out the girl with his back and butt forming a perimeter shield, pushing her off and away from whatever action is in front of him.

It drives the little girls crazy, and it’ll drive the grown girls crazy too.

You know who does the box out to squeals of feigned indignation from chronologically adult women?

When I do it, I like to season the effect with taunts such as,

“stop bumping into my butt”

“don’t be a nosey parker”

“hey, mind your own business!”

“no no no no no no no no”

“HEY EVERYONE, SHE PERSISTED”

“man talk, darlin'”

A nuclear DQ like this one plays on women’s FOMO (fear of missing out). All women are attention whores, ergo all women can’t stand thinking they’re outside the scene looking in, like Tiny Tingle.

The Box Out is also a sneaky way for your glutes to cop a reverse feel.

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Every Girl Adores A Hard-To-Get Boy

A sharp-eyed observer can’t fail to notice how Game principles extend forward and backward in life, all the way back to early childhood. If you can recall your own childhood, or have opportunity to see tykes at play, a familiar dynamic emerges. The boy (usually just one boy, but may be more) who is least interested in what the little girls are doing, who is totally immersed in his own world, and who will even go so far as to push the girls away when they curiously peak around the periphery of whatever has his attention, is the boy who can’t beat the wee lasses off with a stick.

This will be especially obvious where the little boys are outnumbered by the girls. Early years sex skew produces the same intersex psychological phenomena that is produced by adulthood sex skew. And the hard-to-get challenging little boy is a tot magnet just like the hard-to-get challenging grown man is a thot magnet.

Little girls, just like tig ol bittied growed girls, adore a boy-II-man who makes himself the center of the universe. Girls of all ages can’t resist the fire and ice.

(Ever notice the “bad girls” of yesteryear rock had more femininity than the Lilith Fair femmes of the 90s or the cartoonish slutwalkers of today? Yet another signpost of metastasizing civilizational necrosis.)

So on the zero sum playground, little boys adhere to the Poon Commandments and little girls love them for it. Specifically, Commandments III and VI:

III. You shall make your mission, not your woman, your priority

Forget all those romantic cliches of the leading man proclaiming his undying love for the woman who completes him. Despite whatever protestations to the contrary, women do not want to be “The One” or the center of a man’s existence. They in fact want to subordinate themselves to a worthy man’s life purpose, to help him achieve that purpose with their feminine support, and to follow the path he lays out. You must respect a woman’s integrity and not lie to her that she is “your everything”. She is not your everything, and if she is, she will soon not be anymore.

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VI. Keep her guessing

True to their inscrutable natures, women ask questions they don’t really want direct answers to. Woe be the man who plays it straight — his fate is the suffering of the beta. Evade, tease, obfuscate. She thrives when she has to imagine what you’re thinking about her, and withers when she knows exactly how you feel. A woman may want financial and family security, but she does not want passion security. In the same manner, when she has displeased you, punish swiftly, but when she has done you right, reward slowly. Reward her good behavior intermittently and unpredictably and she will never tire of working hard to please you.

The fact that cub cads and tiny thots instinctually obey the timeless biomechanical laws of the Poon Commandments strongly suggests that these principles of Game have a solid footing in the deepest, primal parts of human nature, and given that they are in evidence so early in life the later manifestations of it should not come as a shock to anyone but those in a low fertility society who have forgotten the wisdom of the wees.

Game is not socially constructed. Social construction is the effluvia of Game.

PS ¡SCIENCE! agrees! (what else is new?)

Science of dating: why playing hard to get only works for men

Men should play hard to get if they want to attract the opposite sex on a first date otherwise women will see them as unmanly or manipulative, new research has shown.

However women should ‘be nice’ as it will make them appear more feminine in the eyes of the opposite sex.

The research, which only studied straight couples, found that women are suspicious of a man who is too attentive, and are likely to view him as ‘vulnerable and less dominant.’

lol niceguys BTFO.

The studies worked on the basis that people often say that they seek a partner that is “responsive to their needs” and that such a partner would arouse their sexual interest.

However it seems that in the early stages of dating, women are more turned on by unresponsive men.

Professor Gurit Birnbaum of the Interdisciplinary Centre, Israel, said: “We still do not know why women are less sexually attracted to responsive strangers.

I know why, and readers of this blog know why. Perception of female preselection. A standoffish, self-possessed man who isn’t promptly smitten by a hot chick is perceived to be a man who has lots of options in quality and quantity of female company. In Darwinian terms, his seed is likely to birth champions who will find themselves living in a poosy paradise, which means his women can look forward to their genes spreading (heh) farther and wider (heh).

However, in contrast, the advice for women is to ‘play nice’ if they want to attract a male, even though dating Bibles such as ‘The Rules’ suggest they should remain aloof and disinterested.

The first experiment involved 112 single undergraduates aged between 20 and 33 years old who were paired with a member of the opposite sex on a 30 minute ‘date.’

It found that women who were judged to be more friendly and responsive were seen to be more sexually attractive.

Nicegirls are not the flip side of niceguys. What works for men doesn’t usually work for women. This is why Game exists, because there are stark and profound psychosexual differences between the sexes.

Men who interacted with an agreeable and attentive female perceived her as more feminine and as more sexually attractive than did men who found women aloof.

In this corner, we have cheap sperm. It prefers women who signal sexual and romantic availability.

In this corner, we have expensive eggs. It prefers men who signal outcome independence and a surfeit of mate choices.

Ten rounds, no ear biting, and don’t bother placing bets, because there can never be a winner…for long.

PPS Joe Biden and the Pope got a tingle up their legs reading this post.

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Reframe Of The Day

Kudos to anonymous for this stellar reframe,

Look at it this way.

Most “men” stay with a woman because they fear losing what they have.

What they should be asking themselves instead is this:

“Why am I willing to lose the potential of all other options in life for this one person?”

If you don’t have a rock solid answer for that, then she’s not worth keeping.

Love is weighing all your competing options, present and future, in the balance and judging them wanting compared to the woman you call yours.

What is not love: gratitude for being rescued by your woman from a life of romantic famine.

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