The Sly “Game Contradictions” Troll

There is a relatively new class of troll who bears a striking resemblance to the well-known “concern troll”, but who is in some respects far more insidious in his methodology and ability to derail comment threads on blogs devoted to the teachings of the charisma arts. I call this new breed the “game contradictions troll”.

A classic example of the game contradictions troll is this comment by “The Shrike” (who may not necessarily be an insincere troll, but whose complaint nonetheless serves as an ideal representative of the sort of comment a game contradictions troll would leave).

A lot of sound advice in this post. It looks like the author is slowly shifting away from the unabashed, detached Lothario pose to a more conservative outlook on life. Conservative values are not my own, but it seems that this is a more consistent approach when it comes to the opinions often professed by the author and most of the commenters here. A recurrent theme is the impending collapse of the Western civilization, largely caused by female hypergamy. The majority seems to abhor the fact modern women ride the proverbial “cock-carousel”, seemingly forgetting that no amount of game would be effective against uptight prudes who only ever do it after marriage, and only to procreate.

Game contradictions trolls thrive on a studied ignorance or disavowal of the true fact of life that there are different standards for the sexes, and that these standards are not set by men, but by nature, and men merely conform to these sexual market standards and rationalize their fairness (or unfairness) when it suits them, (we are not a rational species, we are a rationalizing species).

No one on this board has claimed that female hypergamy is the prime cause of Western decline. Female hypergamy is one of those differing sexual market standards that apply to women and not to men, and that can’t be wished away. The assertion often made at CH is that female hypergamy is a real phenomenon, and it is best to accept the reality of it and MAKE IT WORK FOR YOU rather than shake your fist ineffectually at it in hopes women magically cure themselves of their evolved desire to mate with, and extract the commitment of, the highest status men that their looks can realistically afford.

Riding the cock carousel is NOT necessarily a manifestation of female hypergamy. The cock carousel is the consequence of socially atomized anonymous urban environments coupled with contraceptives and economic self-sufficiency providing cover and incentive for women to indulge the part of their sexuality that yearns for dominant, charming, jerkboy cads who are hard to pin down into committed relationships. This is not female hypergamy fulfilled, but female hypergamy THWARTED, as it is the Darwinian directive of every woman to land the most desirable alpha man and to KEEP HIM AROUND.

There is an interesting clash of contradicting attitudes here. Not arguments between different posters, but internally inconsistent opinions voiced by the same people. Game is still a hallowed topic, not to be touched with a mortal hand, but it runs counter to the otherwise conservative leanings of the commenters. A stable family-unit, also much cherished around here, is mutually exclusive to widespread promiscuity exemplified by men who “game” women, and women who are willing to play along.

Another category error made often and reliably by trolls and anti-game haters. “Game” is not synonymous with promiscuity, although game certainly aids the pursuit of promiscuity if that is what is desired. A man could just as easily use game — aka learned charisma — to meet, seduce, date, and when the time is right, marry the most beautiful oneitis he has ever laid eyes on. I wouldn’t recommend it, but there you go.

Ultimately, there is a choice to be made if a man is to be congruent at the most basic level. Either champion a virtuous society where loyalty matters a lot, and people pair up with the intention of forming serious relationships. Or support the cad lifestyle where jumping from one woman to the next without any consideration is the norm.

Men have a longer SMV window than women and bear a smaller cost for each act of copulation than do women, which means in practice each man can, and should, get some romantic experience under his belt (heh) and then marry, if he wishes to marry, a younger woman. The fact of biologically grounded sex differences which aren’t going anywhere means that cadding about is always going to be less psychologically, reproductively and emotionally expensive for men than slutting around will be for women.

If it’s the latter, then it’s difficult to blame women for trying to do the same.

First, most women aren’t interested in doing the same, despite transparently try-hard protestations to the contrary by fat, bitter feminists. Second, it’s not difficult to blame the women trying to emulate the lifestyle of the alpha male cad for their short-sightedness. Different sex-based standards in the sexual market, and different sex-based psychosexual temperaments, are an emergent fact of life, not a directive handed down by the invisible pimp hand of the patriarchy.

If it’s the former, then much of the game concept goes out the window, though some aspects of getting a chosen female interested presumably are still useful.

How about, “game gives men the tools to successfully attract and keep women in sexual and emotional relationships.” There. That’s not so hard now, is it?

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Sex Differences In Psychology Are Real, Immutable, Lasting, And Significant

A recent cross-cultural study with a large sample size has found… or, rather, re-found… that men and women have radically different mate-preference psychologies, and that these differences are even larger than previously thought. (Parenthetically, the study also found that feminists are still idiots.)

Men’s and women’s ideas of the perfect mate differ significantly due to evolutionary pressures, according to a cross-cultural study on multiple mate preferences by psychologists at The University of Texas at Austin.

The study of 4,764 men and 5,389 women in 33 countries and 37 cultures showed that sex differences in mate preferences are much larger than previously appreciated and stable across cultures.

The sharp reader may ask, “Ah, but does this study suffer from a WEIRD bias?” The answer:

“Many want to believe that women and men are identical in their underlying psychology, but the genders differ strikingly in their evolved mate preferences in some domains,” said co-author of the study and psychology professor David Buss. “The same holds true in highly sexually egalitarian cultures such as Sweden and Norway as in less egalitarian cultures such as Iran.”

No WEIRD bias.

The researchers suggest that these patterns of mate preferences are far more linked to gender than any individual mate preference examined separately would suggest.

Thus confirming the CH ugly truth that attractiveness standards for men and women are universal and sex-based, and that the hope of everyone being a special snowflake having equal sexual market value is a myth.

Researchers found that they could predict a person’s sex with 92.2 percent accuracy if they knew his or her mate preferences.

WOW. Think on that. The implications are far-reaching, and VERY discomfiting to believers in the sex-based blank slate.

According to the study, men favor mates who are younger and physically attractive. Women seek older mates with good financial prospects, higher status and ambition.

Amanda Marcotte’s id just emitted a death wail.

“Because women bear the cost of pregnancy and lactation, they often faced the adaptive problem of acquiring resources to produce and support offspring, while men faced adaptive problems of identifying fertile partners and sought cues to fertility and future reproductive value,” Conroy-Beam said.

These sex-based mate preferences are evolved over millennia and deeply embedded in our hindbrains, so even in a modern environment where women are coddled by the State and pregnancy is easily avoided or terminated by technology interventions, and where women are bloating up into disfigured pigbeasts hiding fertility cues under layers of blubber, we still find that the old evolved preferences continue to exert the primary influence over our desires and preferences.

But, it is possible that some powerful modern sexual market disturbances, such as the Pill, may alter certain preexisting mate preferences which are more flexible in nature, wired for adaptability to changing environmental pressures. Women in a state of nature prefer men with good financial prospects 3/4ths of the time and sexy PUAs during ovulation, but women in a manufactured state of existence where the Pill is widespread and cheap may more frequently, or more intensely, favor the layabout alpha cad over the dependable, resource-rich beta provider, because the cost of pregnancy has been obviated, (a change in their environmental reality which would register subconsciously in women).

Which mate preferences varied the most by sex?

Of the 19 mate preferences that researchers considered, five varied significantly based on gender: good financial prospects, physical attractiveness, chastity, ambition and age.

Chicks dig:
well-off men,
ambitious men,
older men.

Men dig:
beautiful women,
younger women,
and (this is my favorite anti-feminist ugly truth) chaste women who haven’t ridden the cock carousel until the gears fell off.

Four other preferences — pleasing disposition, sociability and shared religious and political views — were not sex-differentiated.

What men and women share in common can be just as interesting as where they diverge. While “pleasing disposition” is a bit vague to get a proper CH-ian handle on — many a charming jerkboy would be asserted by women to have a “pleasing disposition” — it’s not at all surprising that men and women prefer lovers who agree at least in part with their own values and religious views. Sex is great, and love better, but after a few years if you love Jesus and she loves Shiva, or you’re Team Trump and she’s Team Cuck, that’s gonna cause some friction. Unless you’re in the minority of people for whom a conventional value such as religious affiliation doesn’t serve as a personal identifier.

I’d like to know exactly what the study authors were measuring with “Sociability”. Does this mean extroverts, of either sex, tend to prefer extroverted lovers, and introverts likewise? I wonder about that. I could see an extroverted drama queen getting exasperated with an introverted man who hates drama, but I’ve also seen a lot of couples where that combination of extrovert-introvert seemed to produce a balancing force that kept each of their worst instincts in check. And left unspoken, they understood how that dynamic benefited them.

“Few decisions impact reproduction more than mate choice,” Conroy-Beam said. “Mate preferences will therefore be a central target and driver of biological evolution.”

The sexual market is the one market to rule them all.

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“This American Life” Shitlibs Get Their Testosterone Levels Tested

…and the results cause the men to burst into tears.

Via his poasting career, one of the funniest stories I’ve read this year.

After all of the usual caveats (unemployed T levels higher than employed T levels, testosterone does not correlate with success, etc) and complete blackout of obvious confounding bix noody variables we get to the point:

It turns out that the gay Jew has the highest testosterone level at 274. The other four men are clustered around half of that (144)

“In general, the normal range in males is about 270 to 1070 ng/dL with an average level of 679 ng/dL. A normal male testosterone level peaks at about age 20, and then it slowly declines.”

144. Male shitlibs are LITERALLY low T manlets.

One thing that jumped out at me, though, was the longing for normalcy. The two of the three women wanted to be low testosterone and feminine. The (almost uniformly whiny) straight(ish) men wanted to be high T. Even in the heart of poz. As creeped out as I was by the entire segment, I managed to extract a tiny grain of hope.

Hope or not, though, after listening to this segment I needed to move leg day up to lift away the poz.

Biomechanics is God, and He rules over even self-deluding shitlibs.

Lift away the poz. gentlemen. Your balls will grow three sizes with every new 1 rep max at the squat rack. Then you can enjoy the whiny spectacle of a sniveling, sneering leftoid disingenuously snark about why you want White men to be more aggressive like black men.

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How Much Is A Jerkboy Convict Worth To Women?

Nine million dollars.

[Marie] Holmes, of North Carolina, decided that she was going to accept her $188 million winnings in one lump sum, meaning she was awarded $127 million. After taxes, she received $88 million. And while Holmes announced that she had plans to pay her tithes and set up college funds for her children, she’s ended up doing something entirely different with her riches.

Shortly after she won the money, Holmes posted $3 million bond for her boyfriend Lamarr McDow. McDow was in jail, facing heroin trafficking charges. McDow was implicated after an investigation unearthed more than 8,000 bags of heroin. […]

She then spent an additional $6 million to get McDow out of prison. He was released with a GPS monitoring device.

Meanwhile, everywhere in America a beta provider niceguy buys dinner for a lovely 31-year-old educated woman with an encyclopedic knowledge of ethnic and racial penis shapes, who dumps him via text one week later.

Two other people in the house were also charged with simple possession. Three children were present at the time of the arrest, McDow said they were his children.

But he wasn’t sure, just a guess, he later told the reporter.

Marie Holmes, “the 26-year-old, single mother of four, [who] had won the Powerball lottery”, is not bad-looking for a nubian princess.

Naturally, there is the race angle. It’s very impulsive to splurge for a jerkboy’s bail to the tune of $9 mil, so we can expect to encounter more measured judgment from a white or asian woman. So let’s say the white woman coughs up $4 mil for her white jerkboy inmate, and the asian woman pays $200 for her asian jerkboy.

In other “grrlpower gone wild” news, a bindi feminist ran a marathon purposefully dripping period blood out of her gross vaganges and down her legs the whole way. Photos are at the link. Even I, the Great Shivver, cannot bring myself to inflict this level of intestinal distress on the CH readers by posting pics here on the hallowed grounds of Le Chateau.

Thanks to her overriding femcunt need to whore for attention, no man will touch this mahatma menstrual show with Amanda Marcotte’s dick. Maybe she’ll get lucky and attract some creepy pervert who’s into “blood stuff”. It puts the curry in the basket…

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The Great Men On Cuckservatives

Via reader “Game for the Hunt”, a scathing quote from a great man that presages the current de-balling of America’s “conservatives”.

The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected.”

G.K. Chesterton, Illustrated London News, 4/19/24

A simple ‘heh’ will do here.

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The Cuckservative: A Trumped Definition

The cuckservative is the try-hard beta male who white knights for MegYn Kelly’s faire maiden honor as she slips red-faced off her seat in a pool of vagina juice after receiving a blast of Donald Trump’s alluring jerkboy sexism.

A more pitiable fool would be hard to find.

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Dr. Root, Sex Therapist, Takes Your Questions

Chateau Heartiste is proud to host, with our co-sponsor NPR, an interview with famed sex therapist, Dr. Root. Full audio of the interview can be found here.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Thanks for joining us. I’m Caitlynnneee Jenner. Dr. Root collects turtles. He says it’s because they stick their necks out a lot the way his erection grows. It’s an attitude that’s worked well for him. Dr. Root joins us from the opium den of Chateau Heartiste in [REDACTED].

Dr. Root:

Next time you’re in New York, I want to have coffee with you.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Are you hitting on me, Dr. Root?

Dr. Root:

Yes, but only to get closer to your slutty coalburner step-daughters.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Oh haha… you! Dr. Root. His brand new book is titled “The Doctor Is In: Dr. Root On Love, Life, And Squirting Orgasms.” I want to know how you got to the United States and then went to work for Planned Parenthood.

Dr. Root:

I used to hit on girls in the Planned Parenthood waiting room.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Really! Why would you do such a thing?

Dr. Root:

Because vulnerable girls are more open sexually. Open to my sexual healing. It’s like unmarried bridesmaids at weddings and the grief-stricken at funerals. You’ve got to get them while they’re in a terrible emotional state, ready for anyone to come take their minds off the bad feels.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Let’s get to our listener questions. Here is an email for you, Dr. Root. And this could literally take hours to answer. She says, “How do you keep love alive?”

Dr. Root:

Don’t get fat.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Excuse me?

Dr. Root:

Yes, don’t get fat. And give your man plenty of blowjobs. That is the best way to keep his love alive. Just don’t expect much after two years or so, because men have a natural instinct to love many women.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Ooookayyy… We have an email here — no, a posting on Facebook — you see how things are changing — says, “Does it bother Dr. Root that there is so much hyper-sexualized dialog and innuendo on prime time television?”

Dr. Root:

The gay propaganda is over the top. And by that I don’t mean two gays kissing. I mean, two gays having a normal, healthy, monogamous relationship without weekly trips to the glory hole, followed by visits to the clinic for suturing anal fissures. When does that happen in real life?

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Oh my my. Isn’t that homophobic?

Dr. Root:

Nocturnal emissions.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Come again?

Dr. Root:

Exactly. By the way, isn’t it funny when I say nocturnal emissions with my accent? I’ll tell you something else, Bruce… er, Caitlynnneee… if we have time.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Surely.

Dr. Root:

I am very worried about college campuses saying that a woman and a man or two men or two women, but I talk right now about woman and man, can be in bed together, Caity, and at one time, naked, and at one time, he or she — most of the time they think she can say, I changed my mind. No such thing is possible. In the Talmud, in the Jewish tradition, it says when that part of the male anatomy is aroused, when there is an erection, the brain flies out of the head. And we have to take that very seriously.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Are you?…. are you suggesting… that women take personal responsibility for their actions? Dr. Root, that is beyond the pale.

Dr. Root:

But within the Pale of Settlement!

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Ok, moving on from college campuses, here’s a question about, perhaps, somewhat younger children from Lindsey Gayham in San Francisco, CA. Lindsey, you’re on the air.

Lindsey Gayham:

Hi. I saw Dr. Root years and years ago on a talk show and he said something I’ve never forgotten. I believe someone on the show had a question about a child sort of bouncing on one’s knee and becoming perhaps a bit too excited, but Dr. Root said the comment that we have to make genitals feel good. And in listening to his earlier comments, I’m thinking, I would like to ask him, do you ever see a day in which children will be more openly recognized as sexual human beings from birth? And what can we, as a society, do to sort of enable them or give them their own sexual rights or emancipation in a positive way?

{editorial break: I swear I am not making this up}

Dr. Root:

I want to tell you something. I’m old fashioned and a square. Children can feel sexual, there’s no question. Boys can have erections as babies, when they’re touched or when their diapers are being changed. Girls, when they’re touched, their clitoris can be aroused. Of course, it’s an autonomic response, devoid of anything resembling adult desire, so I’m afraid pedophiles like yourself will have a hard time rationalizing your urges to grope small children, but I suppose you can try. It’s 2015, anything is possible! Like gay marriage!

Dr. Root:

And it’s a good question, but I am, all of these years, have been rather old fashioned and a square. I tell parents careful not to walk around naked with buttplugs up your ass when there are teenagers in your home. Because the father, especially a biologically unrelated stepfather that the children’s whore slut single mom roped into a second marriage, could feel some kind of erector, some kind of feeling, and get a bottle of lube. How come he gets aroused when he sees his stepdaughter naked? Is it her pert tits, her firm round ass, her luscious lips and smooth skin? I’m not saying when somebody walks in, somebody takes a shower to make a big to do. But I believe in our culture, to make it separate and to be very careful, because that sexual drive, the sexual desire is a strong one. Leave the open air boobies hanging out to those tribes in National Geographic.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Dr. Root, I want to go back to what you were talking about before the break. That is, young people on college campuses and the concern about at what moment, being in an aroused situation, and then hearing the young woman saying no. What you’re saying is it’s already gone too far.

Dr. Root:

Women have their own language for arousal. Yes means yes. no means maybe, and maybe means yes, but after a few empty promises first. If a woman gets so drunk she can’t consent, she should think about not drinking so much if she wants to avoid morning-after regret. And don’t forget, Caitlynnneee, a drunk man can’t know if she’s given him her consent. So really, we should get the long arm of the law out of the bedrooms of horny college students with more hormones than wisdom.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

This advice isn’t going to sit well with campus feminists.

Dr. Root:

The only thing that sits well with campus feminists is a double-stuffed burrito. Have you seen them lately? Fat and so ugly! And with the purple hair! Really, between me and you and the rest of America, most of these rape hysterics are the fantasies of lonely women pretending they have to beat the men off with a stick.

Dr. Root:

And unintended pregnancies and that they cannot say at one time, at the height of arousal, just when he’s very aroused, strong erection, when she’s very aroused, either he or she cannot change their mind. I know it’s controversial, but I have to stand up and believe for what I believe in. I know it has something to do with Title 9, with money that goes to universities. I’m very worried about that. And people like you and me, who have this power, especially you right now on NPR, of the airwaves, do have to talk about that.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Indeed. I think that there is a great deal to what you say. This is my way of deflecting that NPR shitlibs like myself will never talk about that. Here’s an email Dr. Root, from John Scalzi in.. well how about that another one from San Francisco. He says, what are your thoughts on the transgender phenomenon and how cultures are or are not accepting transgender individuals? How do you see this evolving over time?

Dr. Root:

I have never been ashamed or worried by saying people who want to change their sex are mentally sick and emotionally combustible. It’s a good idea to refrain from encouraging their sickness.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

All right. Let’s go to… a bus depot rest room in San Francisco? Alex Pareene, you’re on the air.

Alex Pareene:

I’m a single guy. I have these internet dating apps and so on and so forth. And it seems like it’s given single people the attention span of goldfish. And I don’t know what you know about it, but I was just wondering what do you think the long term effects of these dating sites, like Tinder or Plenty of Fish or any of that. What do you think that has, you know, what the future holds for that?

Dr. Root:

Easy, atomized sex. Hard relationships. Fertility crashes. Civilization implosion. But be careful, use protection. As long as you do that, no problem.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Here’s an email that says, “my wife and I are in a difficult place. We love each other. She says she’s attracted to me, but has no interest in being amorous with me, because she does not feel emotionally connected. I feel that being amorous with each other is one way to help rebuild the emotional connection. But I don’t want to press the issue for fear of driving her away even further. Do you have any thoughts on how we can bridge this gap?”

Dr. Root:

Yes, you are a beta male. You have to be less of a beta male and more of an alpha male. Your wife isn’t doing this intentionally. Her arousal isn’t something she can control. It has to be stimulated. Oh yes, I know I’m a sex therapist, but “talking it out” is absolutely the worst thing you can do. It will dry her pussy right up, like a slug under a salt shaker. Be more demanding, be less kind and generous, be cocky and confident, tease her, make fun of her, leave for indeterminate spells, and flirt with other women in her presence. Then your wife will come around to loving you again.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Mother of god…

Dr. Root:

No, I am the father of god.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

On the other hand, if she says I don’t want to see a therapist, he should go by himself, shouldn’t he?

Dr. Root:

If he’s a mangina of small testicle, yes. Or, if the therapist is a sexy woman and he wants to boff her, then he should go see her.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

All right, and here is a posting on Facebook. What about the phenomenon of the “Fifty Shades of Gray” franchise? Where is the line between healthy and unhealthy in role playing and fantasy like the against my will fantasy, that’s actually consensual? On the other hand, we are hyper-vigilant about criminal rape on campus and elsewhere. And on the other, we supposedly agree that power exchange role playing is a normal and exciting thing in sexuality.

Dr. Root:

Torture-rape porn for women.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Women like this?

Dr. Root:

Women get aroused by the thought of submitting to a powerful, dominant man. Women are sexually charged by their vulnerability and submission, but only to a man worthy of taking it from them.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Why the S&M aspect?

Dr. Root:

Arousal amplification.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

This is all so… refreshing. Exciting. For me to hear. MmmmMMmmmm….

Dr. Root:

Ta Nahisi Coates! Safety word! Ta Nahisi Coates!

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Sorry. Ok, where were we. Let’s go now to Witch’s Coven, Massachusetts. Amanda Marcotte, you’re on the air.

Amanda Marcotte:

Hi. Yes, I wanted to first thank Dr. Root, because as I was coming of age, she was on a lot of the talk shows and in the news a lot, and gave me a different perspective on being able to explore and to ask questions about and not feel ashamed about questioning different things. But also, I wondered what her opinion was on the, especially with millennials, but with each successive generation, the disconnect from intimate acts and emotional bonds. That there’s quite a bit of not just one night stands, but one event relationships.

Dr. Root:

So I’m old fashioned and a square. I  don’t want to see more sexually transmitted diseases, if it’s different partners. Use protection! And shave your manjaw.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

You tell everyone to use protection. Is there more to sex therapy than that?

Dr. Root:

There is, but not for the close-minded NPR audience.

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

I am old fashioned and a square, as well. Let’s go, finally, to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. FrankNBeans, you’re on the air. Quickly, please.

FrankNBeans:

I have a question for you. I know you met Howard Stern recently. Maybe a year or two ago, and, you know, he is certainly kind of a force out there in the media world. But you know, by talking about sexuality and his small penis, to be specific, do you think he’s doing a good thing for the world of sexuality and men, in particular?

Dr. Root:

Bababooey? Ok, truthfully, Howard may have a small penis, but it doesn’t hurt him with the ladies. Last time I was on his show, he wanted to talk about something I didn’t want to talk about. My prehensile penis. He is very jealous of it. It’s a medical wonder, my penis. I can hit the G spot and cervical aperture with the same thrust!

Mz Caitlynnneee Jenner:

Wow just wow. That’s it folks. Lots of love and thanks for listening. I’m going to my John Stewart hurt locker to masturbate furiously under a poster of his vapid smirk.

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